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 Library of Congress posted:The Holy Americus, Book of the Cataclysm The newly crowned Emperor Andrew Penrose I is rather unlike his mother or any of his other famous ancestors. For many years he has ruled his father's old Duchy of Maryland from Baltimore, using his power and prestige as heir to the throne to engage in endless drinking and lechery. The extent of this carousing is such that even his own considerable skill at controlling information has been unable to keep it a secret and he is widely known as Andew the Lecher.  His wife, on the other hand, is absolutely without any talent and spends her time at court drinking away the hours with a few friends or buying expensive baubles. Unsurprisingly, she loathes her cheating husband.  Andrew, perhaps too busy with other pursuits, misses out on the election for President and it goes to Milton Wynnet, a skilled diplomat and judge of 68 years.   Emperor Andrew does not seem too worried, figuring that Milton wont be long for this world at his age. Andrew has other fires to put out besides missing out on the presidency, such as cooling the tempers of cuckolded vassals.  Andrews assumption turns out to be correct, President Wynett passes away after a little more than a year as president.  Being from the distinguished house of Penrose, Andrew has a certain edge over the competition for the office. However, Andrew's embarrassing behavior is widely known throughout the empire and this could cost him the election. It's already costing him quite a bit of money!  But everyone likes a winner and the revolt of the British lord of Massachusetts against the Redcoat Dominion offers Andrew a chance to connect the holy city of Boston to the rest of Columbia by land.   Victory over the ailing realm is a foregone conclusion and it is enough to overcome Andrew's reputation amongst the faithful. In March of 2894 he is elected with a wide margin of victory.  It is hard to say what causes the change, or even when it begins, perhaps Andrew is growing less lustful now that he is nearly in his 50s, perhaps the weight of the Emperorship and Presidency weighs on his mind. Either way, President Andrew begins spending more and more time among theologians and men of faith and less around lovers and prostitutes.  The war, meanwhile, continues in a predictable fashion. Long gone are the days when the red coated British struck fear into the hearts of the American people.  Unlike most of his predecessors, President Penrose doe not lead from the front. Although not completely incompetent in the arts of war, Andrew has no illusion about being the finest military mind in the realm. There are others with far more talent and he'd honestly prefer to stay in Washington and read.   In 2998 the war ends and the Duchy of Massachusetts is handed off to one of the Emperor's brothers. The ranks of the higher nobility are increasingly filled with various Penrose family members.  With the ongoing collapse of British power, many Yankee scholars and artisans are flooding into the stability of the Empire. Many are of the Occultist faith (or as they call it the "Elder Faith"). The Emperor welcomes them warmly, always happy to have talented men in his employ.  The President continues to study theology, to the point that he neglects his last remaining lover. He learns much of what has been lost since the Cataclysm and the times afterwards. Once, the Americanist faith stretched all the way to the Rockies, before resurgent Catholic plainsmen reclaimed the west and Rust Cultists pushed into Ohio and Indiana. In those days the holiest sites of the faith were Washington, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Charleston and a holy mountain called Rushmore. Since those days none had gone to that distant site, which lay far away across the Great plains.  But in 2900 Andrew is in his mid-50s and nearing the end of his life. Seeking one last adventure he declares his intention of traveling west and reclaiming the mountain for the faith.  With him comes his secretary of state, Duchess Marceline Lambdin of Connecticut and Long Island, a brilliant military mind with a sizable demesne and a lot of influence in the court. She leads the left flank of the 9,000 men who are to accompany Andrew on the first leg of his journey.  The right is commanded by Duke Victor McKee of Southside, the only remaining child of the strange woman of the wild whom his mother took as her lover some years prior. A skilled and ambitious theologian, Victor was granted the southern most duchy of the Old Dominion during the reign of his mother. But he is still an un-legitimized bastard in the eyes of the Penrose family, a slight that has left the young Victor deeply bitter against his liege. Andrew hopes that the trip will help him reconcile with his half-brother.  On the 8th of March the men under Andrew's command begin boarding the fleet that will take him to the grand city of Duluth. In order to get to Mount Rushmore the fleet will sale north, along the coast, then through the Great Lakes. A grand festival is held in Washington to bid the President farewell and to pray for his safe passage.  On the 20th of April the fleet passes Cape Cod, the northernmost extent of the Empire and the former center of British power in America. But the glory days of the British fleet are in the past, the loss of key ports like Baltimore, Philadelphia and Boston mean that Dominion power has had to move elsewhere, primarily to the Hudson River Valley and interior New England. Right now the realm is facing a revolt by a number of vassals seeking independence, although the intervention of some of the Dominions neighbors may keep the realm from fracturing just yet.  In June the Columbians take on supplies in Pitupok and enter the Gulf of Saint Lawrence. Of the four Elijah Shuguin successor states, the Maritimes is perhaps the most stable. With the unraveling of the British Domain, the influence of the New Brunswick trade republic has only grown, bringing great fortune to the SHuguin rulers of the northeastern realm.  July sees the fleet enter the Saint Lawrence River, which now divides the Elijan successor state of Quebec from the lands of those vassals who back Howard Shuguin over Curtis Shuguin for king. While the Maritiman Shuguins have intermarried with and helped prop up the British realm, the Quebecois Shuguins have been expanding at the expense of the Lord Admiral.  The fleet enters Lake Saint Clair in late August, entering into the territory of the great Republic of Superior and Michigan. Under the great lord directors of the city of Duluth, the Norse faith has recently been reformed and expanded into Michigan. Now Superior-Michigan is the dominant commercial and military power in the lucrative Great lakes.  Not all are willing to abandon the old ways in favor of the Norse Church. Hugging the edge of the civilized world, the Norse Kingdom of Aurora continues to practice the ways of the forefathers.  In late September, after many months of travel, the Columbians arrive at their first destination. Needing a base from which to plan and prepare for the trip across the plains, the Old Norse Isle Royale is chosen. When message is sent to the count of the island requesting that he host the 9,000 men (at his own expense) he refuses. Given that he can only call upon 4,000 men to his own defense, this is perhaps a poor decision.  In April of 2901 the keep of Isle Royale falls and surrender is not far behind.  Meanwhile, tales of the tumult in the Redcoat Dominion have reached the ears of the Pope. At the request of the King of Upland, still stinging from the loss of Midmichigan to the Norse, Pope Zealot II calls for a crusade for Hudsonia.  In August the bulk of Andrews forces are sent home. The trip to Mount Rushmore will be hard and the President doubts that his levies are prepared to make the trip. Instead, he retains the services of the Royal Dragoons and calls upon the Men in Black for reinforcements. Director Lucan happily accepts, eager to help retake the holy site.  In November the first of the Columbians arrive in Duluth, the center of the Superior Republic.  Beyond the borders of Superior lie the broad lands of the Grand Duke of Minnesota, where the recently converted Matthias rules.  It is a long trip, and Andrew takes the opportunity to continue his theological education.  In May of 2902 the Columbian army at last reaches Mount Rushmore, which is currently in the hands of a minor pagan realm in the midst of a civil war. Though weakened by the long trek, the Columbian army finds little resistance and begins besieging the holdings of both sides of the conflict.  In fact there is only one battle in the whole war, which ends in a rout when the old Penrose heirloom "Cherry" terrifies the enemy tribesfolk and sends them fleeing.  In 2903 the lord of the realm surrenders and returns the holy mountain to the hands of the faithful.  President Penrose spends many months praying and meditating under the gaze of the Fathers, their stony visages inspiring him and, at times, moving him to tears.  Inspired by the mercy of Father Roosevelt, he legitimizes all of his many bastards from his lusty days of youth and even grants one of the more educated of them a county judgeship over Rushmore. When the letters containing these orders arrive back in the Empire it scandalizes many in the extended Penrose family.   But Andrew knows that he cannot stay on the mountain forever, as President he has a duty to lead the faithful. Seeking to beat the winter, he and his dragoons embarks in October at Duluth.  In May of 2904 he at last returns to Washington, where he is greeted by crowds of the faithful.  The next year is a peaceful one for Andrew. He focuses on writing his account of the pilgrimage to Mount Rushmore and spending time with his immediate family. But relations with his extended family have fallen to an all time low. Incensed by his decision to legitimize all of his bastards and unwilling to risk the crown falling into the hands of a bastard, a number of them approach him in 2905 and threaten rebellion unless he changes the succession laws so that the Duke of Coalland, Philip Penrose III, inherits the Empire.  Perhaps the dukes thought that the pious and aged Andrew would simply roll over and hand the realm over to them. But the President will do no such thing and raises his forces to quash the plot.  In Washington 16,000 men from across the realm are called up.  A further 3,000 men, inspired by the piety of President Andrew, arrive to pledge their swords to his cause.  It is a bloody struggle, one of Penrose against Penrose.  In 2906 Andrew's forces capture Duke Victor McKee, the half-brother he had taken to Mount Rushmore with him. Despite all of the Emperor's efforts, Victor had never gotten over his resentment of Andrew. For the pious Andrew, it is a sore spot and a reminder of his old life and the people he wronged.  Foreign merchants from across the ocean continue to trickle into the ports of the east coast. For now their impact is small, almost unnoticeable. But in time the effects of these new ideas, goods and inventions on America is likely to be huge.  In 2908, at 63 years of age, Andrew Penrose I passes away in his sleep. The war ends shortly thereafter and his son carries out his fathers wishes, pardoning the leadership of the rebellion.  The Reign of Emperor Andrew I, Emperor of Columbia, King of Columbia, Delmarva, Alleghania and the Old Dominion, President of the Faithful, has Ended! Long Live Emperor Andrew II! For more than 40 years Andrew Penrose I lived the life of an indulgent hedonist, an embarrassment of the family and the realm. But only the Fathers can trace the path of the river and the place of a man today says nothing of his place tomorrow. In the Presidency Andrew found new purpose and at a holy mountain he found peace with his past. Perhaps he had to fall to the lowest depths before the Fathers could raise him up to unexpected glory, just as the Americanist people had to fall to the depredations of the Confederates so that the Penrose line, begotten by a lowly bastard prince, might come and raise the faithful back to glory. This does not end the story of Penrose family, nor of the empire it wrought, but our part in it is done. The empire and the family can stand on their own now.          Next up: State of the world and a vote
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Aw man, I as hoping for more Penrose stuff. Americanism's victory will not be complete until their manifest destiny of stretching from sea to shining sea is fulfilled!
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Jul 17, 2015 02:27
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CommissarMega posted:Aw man, I as hoping for more Penrose stuff. Americanism's victory will not be complete until their manifest destiny of stretching from sea to shining sea is fulfilled! Well they're pretty well set up to take New England if the AI gets up to it, and Applachia is likewise vulnerable. But I got back all the holy sites and ensured that the Empire will (probably) not collapse the moment I step back. But staying in one place too long gets really boring and we've got a lot of map still untouched. This next vote may or may not be our last for this timeline (game ends in 3086 I believe), if not it will be the second to last.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:37
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i81icu812 posted:Ohio and Colorado look more like baseball team logos than flags, and Maryland is an affront to the eyes, but at least is recognizable. The best flags were clearly the ones designed by people intending for them to be used by independent countries/entities (Hawaii, Texas, California, Rhode Island, South Carolina). You have bad and wrong opinions about flags.  I love that this is Provo's in-game seal and not the new one: 
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Clayren posted:Well they're pretty well set up to take New England if the AI gets up to it, and Applachia is likewise vulnerable. But I got back all the holy sites and ensured that the Empire will (probably) not collapse the moment I step back. But staying in one place too long gets really boring and we've got a lot of map still untouched. This next vote may or may not be our last for this timeline (game ends in 3086 I believe), if not it will be the second to last. Could you put up a save at this point then, or have you already played past it? Because I'd really like to play this (picked up CK2 in a sale a while back, but haven't installed).
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 State of the world and voting The northeast has been the site of numerous upheavals in the past couple hundred years. Once a religiously and politically diverse region on the edge of the far more powerful and settled Holy Columbian Confederacy, it is one of the most prosperous and technologically advanced regions of America.  This might largely be blamed on the Shuguin dynasty, who encouraged foreign trade with both the Boat People of Greenland and Iceland and the British, thus encouraging technological innovation and turning Boston into a center of commerce in New England. Today there remain 4 Elijan successor states, although only the Maritimes and Quebec are of any real note.   Part of this ongoing revolution in trade and thought was due to the invasion of New England, Hudsonia and Ontario by the Redcoat Dominion. But the loss of support from the homeland for the invasion has greatly weakened the once formidable Dominion and it is now relegated to upper New England, Hudsonia and Ontario.  The greatest nation of the northeast is by far the Empire of Columbia, which has expanded to tremendous size as the Dominon has declined.  The Great Lakes have long been divided between the Norse, High Churchers and Rust Cultists, but the rise of the Republic of Superior has made the Reformed Norse supreme in the region.  The Duluth-based republic keeps a tight grip on trade throughout the inland seas, the value of which cannot be underestimated.  The last remaining Rust Cultist realm of any note and a serious thorn in Superior's side, the scattered Duchy of Indianapolis remains, for now.  The Atomicist Kingdom of Aurora is the only other real power in the western lakes, but internal issues continue to plague the northern kingdom.  The plains remain, as ever, in the hands of the Catholic faithful.  The most powerful is Iowa, which, despite current troubles, still enjoys the blessing of the most fertile corn land in the plains.  The Kingdom of Platte has recently fallen under the sway of the Neo-Gnostic heresy thanks to the conversion of Queen Rebecca Brasge.  The Republic of Comancheria continues to hold the line against the heathens of the south.  The regions of Texas and Northern Mexico are divided primarily between the kingdoms of Rio Bravo and Sierra Madre. The Knights of Columbus proved to be little match for Rio Bravo and now reign over only two counties.  Along the coast of the Caribbean rule the Norteno of Rio Bravo.  Further inland rule the Tejano of Sierra Madre.  In the far north the land is divided between the Kingdom of Manitoba and the Duchy of Minnesota.  Once a Norse realm, the recently converted Northlander Catholics of Minnesota now swear allegiance to the Pope in New Rome.  The Old Norse of Manitoba, on the other hand, refuse to turn their backs on the old ways and have expanded greatly into the old Gaian Kingdom of Big Sky.  In the west there are four great realms who are divided by geography.  Between the desert and the mountains, the Anthophile dynasty still rules over the Mormons of Deseret.  On the other side of the desert, the King of Gran Fransisco-The Valley dreams of a new California Empire.  To his south lies Socal, the other Californian successor state, much diminished.  The Kingdom of Taagwaa swallowed the northern Califronian Kingdom of Jefferson long ago and now rules much of the Pacific northwest.  Only two realms exist in the Caribbean.  Two hundred years ago the Rastafarians of the Caribbean Empire ruled every island. A terrible civil war ripped the empire apart, but it has since re-knit itself back together, failing only to retake La Espanola.  The Voodoo-practicing leaders of La Espanola are fiercely independent and have so far resisted any attempt by the Caribbean to retake their lands.  In the far south the powerful Kingdom of Mexico continues to resist invasion by the Brazilian Empire.  The smaller realm of Peten also stands in the way, though for how long is unknown.  Much of southern Mexico has already been lost to the steady advance of the empire, which now stands at the border of the Mexican heartland.  Where the strange invaders came from is still unknown, in part because their language is so different from those spoken in Central America.  Voting Time The map is starting to solidify into definite countries now, but there are still quite a few "wild" regions where we can have a real chance of expanding. I have listed each option below, with positives (+), negatives (-) and things of note (o). Voting will be open for awhile, probably until Tuesday or Wednesday. Option A In the borderlands between the Holy Columbian Confederacy and the lands of the Catholic realms lies the county of White. It is here that a stranger in a dark cloak offered the countess Layla a bargain: wealth beyond imagining for her faith. She now worships the almighty dollar and is ready to spread the tenants of the Green Backed One to her neighbors. o Consumerist Faith + Lots of weak neighbors + Mississippi right near by - Start out small, only one county - Confederacy is nearby and this time we wont have any Redcoats showing up to save our bacon  Option BA In the deserts of the southeast the Atomicists have existed as scattered, minor states for hundreds of years. But now a strange metal rod has begun to speak to the Chief of the Pharaohs. o Atomicist Faith + Lots of weak neighbors - In the desert - Sierra Madre, Deseret and Socal could be big dangers to us  Option C While the Catholic realms of the plains are stable and powerful, the Catholics of the Great Lakes are under assault by the Norse. The Steinbach dynasty, who first reclaimed Chicago from the Norse hundreds of years ago, have now re-inherited the city. Can the cross stand tall over lake Michigan once more? o Catholic + A few weak neighbors + Mississippi river access +Large Duchy at start + Great Lakes coast - Superior is third biggest realm in game - Viking raids 24/7  Option D With the fragmentation of Big Sky the Gaians of the west are under increased pressure by the Kingdom of Taagwaa. But in the Columbia River Valley a new hope for the Gaian faith may be stirring. o Gaian Faith o Gaians prefer female rulers, so I will switch to female inheritance as soon as possible + Columbia River nearby + Many weak neighbors + Starting ruler good at war - Taagwaa are big and scary  Option E Amidst the collapse of the Redcoat Dominion, some British rulers have broken off from the realm. One of these is Marquis Colin III, the insane lord of Quinte who now seeks to bring about a new age of glory for the British in America. o Queen worshiping limey religion + Can take advantage of collapsing Dominion + Great Lakes nearby - Ruler starts out insane - Columbian Empire is second most powerful realm in America and a bit too close for comfort  Option F As Rio Bravo pushed into north America, it conquered many of the minor Texan realms. But some still remain who remember the tales of the ancient Empire of Lone Star, whose brave Texans resisted all conquerors. o Texan Catholics + Many weak neighbors - Both the Confederacy and Rio Bravo are nearby - Landlocked  ___________________________________________ Vote for the option you'd like me to play next. Also, a link to the Columbia save: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9JldfF-jsL3YmJRQ2V3UE4wbFE/view?usp=sharing And one for New England: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9JldfF-jsL3MVhjMWNsazNvOGc/view?usp=sharing
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Jul 17, 2015 18:38
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Clearly A is the most valuable choice. Has the Consumerist faith already triggered?
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Jul 17, 2015 18:44
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Voting for C Let's get the action closer to my homelands of Iowa and Michigan.
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Jul 17, 2015 18:47
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Jul 17, 2015 18:49
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Jul 17, 2015 18:53
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It's a tough choice, but I'm gonna go for D because Deirdre Skye.
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Jul 17, 2015 18:53
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Are there any Michtlantec rulers in Mexico anymore? Anyway, I vote B.
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Jul 17, 2015 18:55
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Voting D Northwest Represent!
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Jul 17, 2015 18:55
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Option D! That sounds interesting and is far away from where we've been previously.
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Jul 17, 2015 19:03
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Option B. Time to take this LP to my home region!
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Jul 17, 2015 19:27
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Wait no gently caress, editing to Option E
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Jul 17, 2015 19:45
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F, Remember the Alamo! Actually, do the Americanists even remember the Alamo?
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Jul 17, 2015 19:55
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Jul 17, 2015 19:59
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Let's be weird and go D
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Wentley posted:Option D! That sounds interesting and is far away from where we've been previously.
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Jul 17, 2015 20:12
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D for Planet 
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Jul 17, 2015 20:56
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A Almighty Dollar or bust. 
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Jul 17, 2015 21:24
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A, with the goal of conquering Fort Worth as soon as possible and with it the great money-printers of the ancients.
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Jul 17, 2015 21:39
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Option A seems like the right combination of kinda tough start, distance from our current area, and in an area that has been properly implemented. I'd vote for D, but they're still bugtesting the Northwest.
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Jul 17, 2015 21:48
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B I want to learn more about the atomicists
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Jul 17, 2015 22:26
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A. Come on the Almighty Dollar is calling us.
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Jul 17, 2015 22:38
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Changing my vote to D since Catholicism has no traction.
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Jul 17, 2015 22:39
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A, the one true faith.
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Jul 17, 2015 22:49
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Gotta go B.
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I'd like to see the Atomists of Option B, please. I'd actually prefer E, but that'd mean going up against the servants of the Founding Fathers, and no mortal can withstand them!
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Jul 17, 2015 23:47
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D for Danger
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CommissarMega posted:I'd like to see the Atomists of Option B, please. I'd actually prefer E, but that'd mean going up against the servants of the Founding Fathers, and no mortal can withstand them! At least, not until a decade or so of them being run by the AI. I expect them to be pretty deal-with-able after that. Just ask the Shuguins!
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Jul 18, 2015 02:21
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I am ready to be Blessed by the Atom.
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Jul 18, 2015 04:00
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B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5i4ZGVQGa8
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B, for the power of the Atom! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB-oJLq5rWo (There's a suprisingly large number of religious themed atomic-era songs...)
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Jul 18, 2015 09:05
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Voting A, just for consumerism
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Jul 18, 2015 09:27
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Cash moves everything Around me CREAM, get the money Dollar Dollar Bill ya'll
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Aeromancia posted:Cash moves everything Around me Just the block letters CREAM on a plain background is in fact one of the crests available to Consumerists. Right now the vote stands at: A Consumerist: 9 B Atomicist: 8 C Chicagoan Catholic: 0 D Gaian: 10 E Theleman: 1 F Texan Catholic: 1 Poll remains open until Tuesday, but right now it's pretty neck-in-neck between Consumerist, Gaian and Atomicist.
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