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gabbard bad Bernie good Bernie not perfect Bernie hosed up wrt gabbard namaste
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Bill Buckner posted:Bernout is still the superior term in my opinion. Me too honestly I will use the term "berniebro" myself sometimes (I'm takin' it back) but it's a bad term which was coined to push a false agenda Primary's over, though, so we can just settle on "leftist" thanks
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Jan 4, 2017 18:20
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loquacius posted:Sure, Hillary Rodham Clinton might have had the undying support of literal murderer and war criminal Henry Kissinger and often vocally expressed her admiration of him, but remember that Tulsi Gabbard is a war hawk in the middle east Kissinger's world view is much more in line with Trumps than Clinton. See both of their stances RE: Russia. Clinton would have doubled down on sanctions and US involvement in Syria, whereas Trump/Kissinger want to build a world order based on regional hegemony. But yes Clinton is Kissinger's gently caress buddy and took weird holidays where they laughed about bombing civilians (I'M GUESSING)
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Jan 4, 2017 18:26
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Brother Friendship posted:Kissinger's world view is much more in line with Trumps than Clinton. See both of their stances RE: Russia. Clinton would have doubled down on sanctions and US involvement in Syria, whereas Trump/Kissinger want to build a world order based on regional hegemony. We came. We saw. He died. *evil laughter*
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Jan 4, 2017 18:31
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Brother Friendship posted:Kissinger's world view is much more in line with Trumps than Clinton His postrealpolitik is too much for Big K to handle.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:35
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I will never understand how stuff like "Gabbard wants to literally eliminate the Muslim race" somehow becomes an accepted and entrenched fact. The only evidence is that she was insufficiently antagonistic towards another world leader, and refused to spit in Trump's face, so now she's Girl Hitler.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:35
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Guy Goodbody posted:I will never understand how stuff like "Gabbard wants to literally eliminate the Muslim race" somehow becomes an accepted and entrenched fact. The only evidence is that she was insufficiently antagonistic towards another world leader, and refused to spit in Trump's face, so now she's Girl Hitler. Welcome to the Democrat Party.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:37
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Guy Goodbody posted:I will never understand how stuff like "Gabbard wants to literally eliminate the Muslim race" somehow becomes an accepted and entrenched fact. The only evidence is that she was insufficiently antagonistic towards another world leader, and refused to spit in Trump's face, so now she's Girl Hitler. she hates the poo poo out of muslims dude
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Jan 4, 2017 18:38
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Hello my name is Convenient Skepticism
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Jan 4, 2017 18:38
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like, i mean, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, is debatably a duck
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Jan 4, 2017 18:40
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logikv9 posted:Hello my name is Convenient Skepticism hi nice 2 meet you im selective memory
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Jan 4, 2017 18:40
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Guy Goodbody posted:I will never understand how stuff like "Gabbard wants to literally eliminate the Muslim race" somehow becomes an accepted and entrenched fact. The only evidence is that she was insufficiently antagonistic towards another world leader, and refused to spit in Trump's face, so now she's Girl Hitler. While I agree the genocide accusations are wildly overblown, she has flogged the "why won't anyone call it ~*Radical Islamic Terrorism*~?!" thing a number of times, and ridiculed the idea that economic and social disruption/disenfranchisement feed into extremist movements (with the heavy subtext that it's just because they're bad people following an evil religion). The woman is no fan of Muslims.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:40
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Yeah that's pretty weak evidence for her supporting Muslim Genocide. She refuses to condemn a foreign political part during their election season. Oh no. She says it's because she doesn't want to interfere in foreign elections, but maybe it's because she doesn't want to offend the Indian ex-pat community that she gets support from? Oh no! 
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Jan 4, 2017 18:41
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paranoid randroid posted:like, i mean, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, is debatably a duck unless that duck gives speeches at Goldman Sachs, there's no reason to believe that duck is financially compromised
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Jan 4, 2017 18:41
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah that's pretty weak evidence for her supporting Muslim Genocide. She refuses to condemn a foreign political part during their election season. Oh no. She says it's because she doesn't want to interfere in foreign elections, but maybe it's because she doesn't want to offend the Indian ex-pat community that she gets support from? Oh no! did you even read the article
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Jan 4, 2017 18:43
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paranoid randroid posted:did you even read the article please point to the passage where she supports the genocide of muslims
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Jan 4, 2017 18:44
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah that's pretty weak evidence for her supporting Muslim Genocide. She refuses to condemn a foreign political part during their election season. Oh no. She says it's because she doesn't want to interfere in foreign elections, but maybe it's because she doesn't want to offend the Indian ex-pat community that she gets support from? Oh no! you know she invited him and poo poo right? Like she could have just not invited the crazy nationalist who overlooks/supports violence against muslims when he was governor and all. She could have just ignored him and pretended India didn't make a crazy hard nationalist shift like everyone else did.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:46
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paranoid randroid posted:did you even read the article Yeah. I don't think being opposed to Islamic Extremism or saying it's motivated by more than just economic insecurity is bad. The rest is just saying the BJP is bad, and she refuses to condemn them and attended one fund raiser they held. That is not the smoking gun proving Gabbard is a slavering Muslim murderer that you think it is.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:46
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I was going to point out that the only person that made any sort of claim w/r/t actual literal genocide support was forums troll Fits My Needs in an attempt to rustle my jimmies, but nobody else is exactly lining up to disagree with him on that point so I dunno maybe
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Jan 4, 2017 18:47
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Guy Goodbody posted:I will never understand how stuff like "Gabbard wants to literally eliminate the Muslim race" somehow becomes an accepted and entrenched fact. The only evidence is that she was insufficiently antagonistic towards another world leader, and refused to spit in Trump's face, so now she's Girl Hitler. it is possible to think that gabbard is the regular amount of lovely towards muslims and that she should've turned down trump's offer and just not like her without going farther than that
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Jan 4, 2017 18:47
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okay mister pedant she merely is a massive islamophobe who is comfortable associating with facilitators of sectarian violence directed against muslims she still sucks
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Jan 4, 2017 18:47
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Tulsi gabbard has bad opinions on Muslims and Islam but those do not include advocating in any way for the mass murder of its adherents, so please do not say that she wants to genocide Muslims because it makes you look like a hysterical moron. thanks e: also, she should have invited trump to her office and left a whoopee cushion on his chair and filmed it
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Jan 4, 2017 18:47
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paranoid randroid posted:okay mister pedant she merely is a massive islamophobe who is comfortable associating with facilitators of sectarian violence directed against muslims hahaha pedantry: pointing out that someone with uncomfortable associations is not literally pro-genocide
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Jan 4, 2017 18:48
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loquacius posted:I was going to point out that the only person that made any sort of claim w/r/t actual literal genocide support was forums troll Fits My Needs in an attempt to rustle my jimmies, but nobody else is exactly lining up to disagree with him on that point so I dunno maybe yea you caught us, everyone who just ignored what famous retard Fits My Needs said secretly agrees. Tulsi Gabbard probably is not pro literal genocide of the Muslim people. She is, however, extremely right wing wrt to 'the war on terror' and proudly supports an incredibly violent and bigoted nationalist faction when she had absolutely no need to other than a genuine support of their agenda.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:49
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Tulsi Gabbard probably is not pro literal genocide of the Muslim people. She is, however, extremely right wing wrt to 'the war on terror' and proudly supports an incredibly violent and bigoted nationalist faction when she had absolutely no need to other than a genuine support of their agenda. She's weird because she's virulently opposed to Islam but also regularly speaks out against interventionism.
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Jan 4, 2017 18:51
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Zoran posted:She's weird because she's virulently opposed to Islam but also regularly speaks out against interventionism. she only started speaking out against it when she jumped on the Bernie train, before that she was all 'why isn't Obama doing more than just massive bombing campaigns to show he's REALLY serious???' like every other right wing loser who totally didn't want boots on the ground wink wink
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Jan 4, 2017 18:53
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Tatum Girlparts posted:yea you caught us, everyone who just ignored what famous retard Fits My Needs said secretly agrees. The guy you were arguing with was clearly objecting to the genocide point in particular  I'm not gonna argue that she's particularly right-wing w/r/t the Mideast though and, as I've said, I am remorseful of having said nice things about her
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Jan 4, 2017 18:53
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Captain_Maclaine posted:While I agree the genocide accusations are wildly overblown, she has flogged the "why won't anyone call it ~*Radical Islamic Terrorism*~?!" thing a number of times, and ridiculed the idea that economic and social disruption/disenfranchisement feed into extremist movements (with the heavy subtext that it's just because they're bad people following an evil religion). The woman is no fan of Muslims. ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL DISRUPTION/DISENFRANCHISEMENT DOESN'T FEED EXTREMISM *watches Midwestern states elect trump* hrm, Midwesterners sure are bad people
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Jan 4, 2017 18:53
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:hahaha pedantry: pointing out that someone with uncomfortable associations is not literally pro-genocide uncomfortable associations with a guy who enabled mob violence that killed thousands of people. i mean its no goldman sachs speech, but i still feel its enough to disqualify her from being any kind of progressive icon
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Jan 4, 2017 18:54
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paranoid randroid posted:uncomfortable associations with a guy who enabled mob violence that killed thousands of people. Hey man why don't you talk about all the mob violence and rapes that DIDN'T happen when he was governor????
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Jan 4, 2017 18:54
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KKKILLLLARY KKKKKLINTON is a WARHAWK and WORST CANDIDATE EVER BECAUSE SHE TOOK MONEY FROM SAUD uh, well, ~*Tulsi Gabbard*~ is actually flawless, I think you'll find, despite attempting to flank the entire Dem party on the right on military interventionism especially with respect to Islamic countries and her relationship with Modi, I think we can all agree, is not evidence that she's anything other than the perfect Dem candidate *tugs collar*
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Jan 4, 2017 18:57
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paranoid randroid posted:uncomfortable associations with a guy who enabled mob violence that killed thousands of people. you should start a company specifically for moving goalposts Former Everything posted:KKKILLLLARY KKKKKLINTON is a WARHAWK and WORST CANDIDATE EVER BECAUSE SHE TOOK MONEY FROM SAUD hahahaha
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Jan 4, 2017 18:58
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:you should start a company specifically for moving goalposts Tulsi Gabbard Sucks
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Jan 4, 2017 19:00
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:you should start a company specifically for moving goalposts what goalposts did he move? Modi literally turned a blind eye and totally lowkey supported mob violence as a governor and Gabbard was very mad when people said 'maybe he's a bad dude'
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Jan 4, 2017 19:00
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only the dead have seen the last of the dem primary meltdowns
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Jan 4, 2017 19:00
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Tatum Girlparts posted:what goalposts did he move? Modi literally turned a blind eye and totally lowkey supported mob violence as a governor and Gabbard was very mad when people said 'maybe he's a bad dude' The pro-genocide argument, which they "skillfully" moved to "she shouldn't be a progressive icon" lol Hail Mr. Satan! has issued a correction as of 19:08 on Jan 4, 2017 |
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Jan 4, 2017 19:01
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every day will be a meltdown in the joint dictatorship of the proletariat
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Jan 4, 2017 19:01
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The only perfect Democratic candidate would be an African American from a Southern state who has the support and popularity to drive people to the polls to flip that state into their column.
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Jan 4, 2017 19:03
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*blows out four candles conspicuously placed around a wall* *wall slides open, revealing dusty book* "It says...the truth...is somewhere in the middle?" Gabbard bad, but not Hitler. Modi bad, and Hitleriffic.
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i was worried that she was pro-genocide. now that i learn she merely just hates islam, i'm Ready for Tulsi
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