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Bad Munki posted:Yeah, is just as soon use cheaper bulk paints but honestly, I just haven't found any that fit the bill as well as the purpose-made model paints. I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about various types of acrylics, but so far, everything I've tried just doesn't stand up to those precious bottles of liquid gold. I've had good luck with DecoArt Americana. It's not gloopy like many craft paints. While that can mean multiple coats, that's better than it going on as thick as house paint.
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Not strictly wargaming related, but this guy's buildings are awesome
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Anyone have good resources on painting crystals? Mine look so... flat. I've seen lots of good pictures via google image search and pinterest and such, but no one actually sharing their secrets.
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Mar 22, 2017 03:30
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I love me some golden high flow acrylics, but those are more an airbrush thing and they aren't too much cheaper than model paints unless you get them in bulk. Some student grade art paint thinned down with airbrush medium and water might do what you want, it's pretty good quality stuff and comes in massive tubes. Something like: http://www.utrechtart.com/Liquitex-Basics-Acrylic-Paint--Mars-Black-MP-00717-016-i1001102.utrecht is a reasonable quality paint for a fraction of model paint prices(~1/12 the price per oz on sale here, and 50% off isn't too uncommon a sale price), but significantly thicker than model paint. Some thinning will most likely be required, but for fairly low detail areas like stone I doubt you'd have too many problems using this. Edit: On second thought, I don't know how well this will work. Out of the tube it is just thick enough to hold brush strokes slightly, and can be brushed on fairly thin. I don't know how well it thins, though, as I haven't used it on anything model related. I haven't personally worked with Golden Fluid acrylics, but supposedly they're good and I think people have used them on models about the same as normal model paints. It looks like a 1oz bottle is a little more than 2/3 the price per oz compared to model paint. However, you can get it in much larger quantities. The 8 oz bottle is about the third the price of vallejo model paints. http://www.utrechtart.com/Golden-Fluid-Acrylic-Paint--Bone-Black-MP-00638-015-i1000452.utrecht Basically: Some options if you want a step up from craft paints but want it cheaper than model paint. If you go buying art paints, do make sure you pay attention to prices. It's not going to impact the browns and greys and blacks, but some of the colors are going to be much more expensive because they're pigmented with ground up unicorn horns or cadmium or something. Felime fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 04:42
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I dunno, in my opinion the best way to reduce the cost of hobby paints is to only buy the colors you're going to use.
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Mar 22, 2017 06:19
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LlamaTrauma posted:Anyone have good resources on painting crystals? Mine look so... flat. I've seen lots of good pictures via google image search and pinterest and such, but no one actually sharing their secrets. 
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Mar 22, 2017 11:00
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In order to really get the illusion of depth, what you need is a strong brightness gradient along each of the facets of the crystal. Those gradients need to be in opposite directions on adjacent facets.
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Mar 22, 2017 12:09
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Zark the Damned posted:Last bunch of crystals I did worked out alright, they're simply a few layers of GW Technical Blood for the Blood God over a silver base. Probably not the effect you're going for though.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:00
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Pierzak posted:They look nothing like crystals, my first reaction was "is that a red metallic?". But that's exactly the effect and paint I was gonna use for an armor, so thanks for confirming that it works as I imagined. I think you would get more of the "crystal effect" you have in mind if you did that, but then also boldly outlined the edges.
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Pierzak posted:They look nothing like crystals, my first reaction was "is that a red metallic?". But that's exactly the effect and paint I was gonna use for an armor, so thanks for confirming that it works as I imagined. Yeah I was going for more of a metal mineral approach like this instead of the usual transparent gem effect people do for their big crystals. I think they worked alright, they're supposed to be weird formations generated by magic anyway 
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Mar 22, 2017 16:28
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LlamaTrauma posted:Anyone have good resources on painting crystals? Mine look so... flat. I've seen lots of good pictures via google image search and pinterest and such, but no one actually sharing their secrets. Do you need to paint them, or can you craft them from scratch? These look pretty good to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42UZ8WpJO-M
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Mar 23, 2017 05:42
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 Got my hands on some Milliput and made some sandbag fortifications! Waiting for the weather to clear up so I can prime them. I'm pretty happy with the result. It's not perfect (the bags aren't as consistent as I'd like), but for a first go with the material, I'm satisfied.
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Mar 23, 2017 23:45
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Nice! I need to get some milliput for some roads.
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Mar 24, 2017 02:48
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Pierzak posted:They look nothing like crystals, my first reaction was "is that a red metallic?". But that's exactly the effect and paint I was gonna use for an armor, so thanks for confirming that it works as I imagined. Buy Tamiya Clear Red instead of GW paint, you and your wallet will be glad you did.
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Mar 24, 2017 05:57
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Ilor posted:Nice! I need to get some milliput for some roads. You don't need milliput for that, just get some pre-mixed spackle. Way better for terrain features like roads - Easier to work with and cheaper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyUr-AUCUs One of the methods he shows does use milliput, but I find that totally unnecessary unless you're using cardboard to base them, in which case it will prevent warping.
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Mar 24, 2017 11:48
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That was the video I was using as a foundation. I liked the milliput version the best. But then again, I like the caulk-based flexible roads too. Decisions, decisions...
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I bought and constructed a few of the papercraft models from DriveThruRPG and I'm super impressed: http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/2985/Dave-Graffam-Models You can see them around the periphery here:  There's a longhouse, coach-house, church and hovel there - and at a dollar a shot they're great value. I printed them in some thick card and took me an afternoon to do all four. They need basing and a little paint touch-up but I can hardly complain.
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Mar 27, 2017 13:58
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 I've been miniature wargaming off and on since I was a teen, but never really put much ambition into making terrain. I've typically just played on vinyl mats or tabletops with random household items for terrain. Lately I've been making a lot of terrain. Last night I looked over my table, and thought for the first time, "you know, this is actually pretty good". Feels good man. 
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Mar 31, 2017 12:06
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Posted this in the Death thread, but they were more interested in replying to trolls c/p from the Bolter and chainsword forum. Have some kitchen paper rolls, glue and IKEA plants Not a viking posted:
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Mar 31, 2017 13:24
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Those are plastic plants, right?
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Mar 31, 2017 14:28
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Geisladisk posted:Those are plastic plants, right? Yeah, I can't believe I hadn't thought of it. IKEA sells a bunch of fairly realistic looking small plants, I've always looked at them and thought "what's the point" due to the fact that they're not exotic or interesting at all
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Mar 31, 2017 14:31
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My partner will get really suspicious when the next time she suggests going shopping at IKEA is met with enthusiasm.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:43
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Yeah, you can get sheets of aquarium plants for a few quid on Amazon and eBay that do well for coverage.
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Not a viking posted:Posted this in the Death thread, but they were more interested in replying to trolls c/p from the Bolter and chainsword forum. These are rad. Nice MO too.
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Sir Teabag posted:These are rad. Nice MO too. Thanks! I'm the CA player though  Where I found the recipe for the trees: https://youtu.be/bJ-ZvGMnTIM
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Mar 31, 2017 16:41
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I've generally heard that plastic plants look better painted up but they hardly look bad without.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:03
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I did paint the not-green colors.
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Apologies if this is a bit of a basic question. I've just finished assembling an MDF building and was wondering about sealing before painting to prevent warping. I did a couple of these kits a few years ago ( from the excellent Rorkes Drift set by Warlord Games) and didn't bother with this step and went straight to the painting. I didn't realise quite how thirsty this MDF is and I really had to dump a ton of paint onto them. They've noticeably warped since then. I've asked various gaming buddies and everyone seems to have a slightly different answer "use hairspray", "spray varnish obviously", "water down some PVA and slap that poo poo on", etc. You guys seem to know your stuff, so what do you reckon?
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My amateur opinion is buy a cheapish spray to undercoat and then slap on cheap craft paint for the base colours. Keep the spray undercoat light to avoid filling details. If you don't prime/seal it will indeed drink paint.
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This is my first piece of terrain I built that was more than painting styrofoam that I actually like. Any suggestions (particularly for the water) would be welcome. I see now that I should've filled some of the cracks better. 
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BeigeJacket posted:Apologies if this is a bit of a basic question. Watered down PVA gets my vote.
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Question: I see a lot of UK folks talking about using "3mm blue foam" for terrain, like this: Do we have that in the US? The closest thing I can find seems to be XPS Foam, sold in 2 inch thick sheets for housing insulation. "Blue foam" is just not a thing we have here, but maybe its called something else in the US? Any good substitutes?
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Not from the states but in Australia we just use the insulation foam as you mentioned
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ExtraNoise posted:Question: I see a lot of UK folks talking about using "3mm blue foam" for terrain, like this: Most I know in the US that I know use XPS foam. You can get it in 1/2" sheets. It's pretty cheap, like $10 for an 8'x4'
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ExtraNoise posted:Question: I see a lot of UK folks talking about using "3mm blue foam" for terrain, like this: You gotta go to the kind of hardware place that serves contractors. Maybe a lumber yard. You *might* be able to find blue, but it's probably pink (but it doesn't matter). I've seen 1/2", 1", 2" and 4". Home Depot type places have limited stock, usually just the 2".
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DiHK posted:You gotta go to the kind of hardware place that serves contractors. Maybe a lumber yard. You *might* be able to find blue, but it's probably pink (but it doesn't matter). I've seen 1/2", 1", 2" and 4". Home Depot type places have limited stock, usually just the 2". Yeah, same problem in Sweden, most places will have 40mm or 50mm thick XPS, but it's REALLY hard for some reason to find thinner sheets.
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You live in a cold country, no one needs the thin stuff.
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ExtraNoise posted:Question: I see a lot of UK folks talking about using "3mm blue foam" for terrain, like this: We have building standards here in the US, not like Old Blighty. The thinnest I've seen in the US is 1 inch (R value is based by the inch.) You might be able to find thinner stuff by checking with a place that supplies contractors (not Home Depot) or bathroom supply. They use 10mm for heated bathroom floors sometimes. If you're in the south/south-west, you might have a better chance of finding something under an inch. I know in New England, it's tough finding anything under 2 inches.
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Look at flooring underlayment. There is a fan-folding style that is foil coated on one side and foam (1.5mm, 2mm, or 3mm) on the other. It might not be a rigid enough foam though, it's been awhile since I did my floor and I wasn't into wargaming at the time.
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Yeah, the Blue Stuff is just the Dow version of the Corning Pink Stuff (or vice versa) -- they are both XPS and can be worked the same way. Home Depot carries the 4'x8' panels in 1/2", 1", 1-1/2", and 2" thicknesses, though stock seems limited depending on area. You can always buy it from them online though -- I think shipping to store is free. They DO stock 1/4" pieces, but it's only available as a 4'x50' "accordian" board, which is a lot of terrain (and $46). The cost is big, but it's also probably enough 1/4" foam to last a lifetime of terrain...
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