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The real n word is knowledge
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Aug 29, 2018 15:45
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Mad Wack posted:i hope we can dress up our companions - i wanna put the mexican dude in a cyber luchadore outfit or a day of the dead neon skeleton bodysuit Muy caliente!
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Aug 29, 2018 15:46
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i also saw some buddhist monks in the city street scene - does CP2020 have any sort of special handling of monks/buddhism or are they just normal?
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Aug 29, 2018 15:47
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WoodrowSkillson posted:can do it without the word oval office, cause its a loaded word that riles people up to little benefit Boooooooooo The c-word is rightly reviled in America, where it is the worst gendered slur you can use. But "loaded" speaks to connotation, and connotation is dependent upon context. I don't know if you've ever spent time around drunks or criminals or drunken criminals, but I don't hear anything wrong about its use in this very unusual context.
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Aug 29, 2018 15:47
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Any info about how moddable the game is?
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Aug 29, 2018 15:47
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also considering that the themes are really mature in this game i hope i can romance my companion and see his enchiladas in the flesh (maybe they are cyber enchiladas?)
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Aug 29, 2018 15:47
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Honestly, its a satisfying word to say, too. Gotta reserve it for people that deserve it, but an angry dude pronouncing it is loving top class, tbh.
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Aug 29, 2018 15:48
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Mind you I don't remember the second use of the word, although I can guess who it was applied to. But the first was perfect for a functional drunk of a criminal.
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Aug 29, 2018 15:50
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The real c word is knowledge
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Aug 29, 2018 15:52
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Mad Wack posted:also considering that the themes are really mature in this game i hope i can romance my companion and see his enchiladas in the flesh (maybe they are cyber enchiladas?)
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Aug 29, 2018 15:53
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I hope I can romance my computer just like irl.
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Aug 29, 2018 15:54
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Mad Wack posted:i also saw some buddhist monks in the city street scene - does CP2020 have any sort of special handling of monks/buddhism or are they just normal? I think they might have been weird cultists wearing orange robes who we will undoubtedly be killing in droves later on
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Aug 29, 2018 15:56
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Nyaa posted:Any info about how moddable the game is? Expect it to be as moddable as Witcher 3. Also your partner sounds like a dude who just found out on Ancestry that he's got a spanish grandparent and changes his style to fit that.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:00
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You n-bombs check out those cyborg titties in the gameplay trailer? They were nice.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:00
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I have a very serious question. Is Quinton Flynn voicing anyone in this game?
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Aug 29, 2018 16:01
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I now remembered that the narrator said that except for cars and bikes there will be 'other vehicles' available. If they want to avoid flying because of gameplay constraints I'm counting at least on BTTF-style hoverboards.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:02
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Palpek posted:It's ok to criticize things in the demo. Palpek posted:Yeah, I don't care about the swearing, it's a harsh world and it will have harsh words and portray unpleasant types. I'd prefer it to be better written/delivered though. In contrast the evironmental storytelling was top notch, a lot of things in the streets that I only noticed on the second viewing. Yeah...that struck me, as well. I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, however: they are definitely aiming for the stars by trying to edge in on Rockstar's market. The E3 trailer had a bright, GTA-style look to it, which I they have said is just one aspect of the overall design. I am ~hoping~ that it's the same thing here: this marketing campaign is very different from what CDPR has done in the past and looks much more similar to a West Coast, AAA-budget press ramp-up. On the one hand, I totally get them trying to capture a larger market. On the other, I worry that this may be the start of a slide into mediocrity...many a studio has been lost as they tried to lower the common denominator for wider appeal. For now I am just assuming that this is a newly unleashed marketing department getting to play with their new toys (and budget). Luckily for CDPR, my biggest worry at the moment is trying to avoid enough of the pre-launch material so that the game still feels fresh when I finally play. That being said: off to watch the 48-minute demo again!  Roman Reigns posted:So is oval office just a very common swear word in the cyberpunk universe? Like how cocksucker is used so often in deadwood? I’m genuinely curious Kind of getting a vibe like the BSG reboot: an attempt at gender-equality by just turning men AND women into chauvinists. It's not totally off-putting, it's just kind of dated.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:02
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Imagine what the night cycle looks like. 
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Aug 29, 2018 16:24
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Palpek posted:Also my Geralt was talking in Polish, way different delivery than the English one.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:24
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WoodrowSkillson posted:No, if i was i would have typed them both, but both will incite significant reactions when used so they are on a similar spectrum of slurs. oval office is different as its use is widespread in commonwealth countries but nearly exclusively a gendered slur in america. there are a bunch of other localized slurs for various groups that are or are not used in places. If an american game used "gypped" it would get quite a reaction in europe. I too think that creators of all cultural products must be above all concerned about how poor marginalized Americans will react to it and how it fits into their parochial world views.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:25
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exquisite tea posted:I've lived and worked in some rough neighborhoods throughout most of my adult lifetime, so you don't need to carry on this fantasy of talkin' tough to clueless goons over the internet. I don't like the writing as shown so far because it comes off as what a 15-year old might think real bad hombres sound like, and is pretty much indistinguishable from the cliched and swear-laden companion dialogue I saw in Far Cry 5, a game you might recall being known for its exemplary standards of writing. I just think it's pretty lame! Hopefully not too representative of the next 99 hours of gameplay because that'll get old real fast. It didn't sound off to me. That said round here "how ya goin' ya sick oval office" isn't an uncommon greeting in certain areas.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:27
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Palpek posted:I don't have a problem with the swear words, not really a line of argumentation I follow. Also my Geralt was talking in Polish, way different delivery than the English one. Rozenek is a much better Geralt imo. (But it's clear that in 3 most of the production was focused on the English version)
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Aug 29, 2018 16:28
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The issue here may be that the script is going to be an English translation of what Polish writer thinks American street talk is like, but meh, not being authentic doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, just different. Spaghtetti westerns were great, and the creators also had no idea what they were writing about except for some superficial cliches - what they did was turn them into a strength.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:31
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Lmao if looking at that excellent demo made you worried about the company sliding into mediocrity. What the heck people
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Aug 29, 2018 16:31
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steinrokkan posted:I too think that creators of all cultural products must be above all concerned about how poor marginalized Americans will react to it and how it fits into their parochial world views. That's fine just don't come in here whining when a bunch of people get annoyed by it. This conversation was re-started by someone complaining that people were bothered.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:34
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I didn't see a real problem with the dialogue or the VAs. My reaction to it was mostly neutral. It was just there and it was passable. But, imo, I can give CDPR the benefit of the doubt because it's the same company that gave us the W3's writing and dialogue which are pretty well lauded. Remember, too, that there are people who don't like Witcher 3's VAs. I think "just another gravel voiced protag" was a not uncommon stance even though I thought it fit Geralt to a T.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:39
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Zoltan said oval office constantly and it wasn't an issue.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:40
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dogstile posted:I'm lolling at everyone who's cringing at the swears. Nobody is clutching their pearls at naughty words. oval office is fine, and fun to say. People are bothered by the voice acting delivery and how awkwardly the swear words are shoved into the dialog. Good swearing usage takes a bit of artistry. There's a right way and a wrong way to swear, and some people think the demo got it wrong. Everything else honestly looks pretty cool though. Personally, I am thrilled at the prospect of being able to tap into and control that combat spider-bot. One of my favorite pieces of tech in the original Deus Ex is the deployable drone and I cannot wait to see how they've expanded the capabilities of that kind of gadget here. It's probably going to be especially useful in CP2020 too, as verticality is going to be such a high priority component of level design.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:43
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:Zoltan said oval office constantly and it wasn't an issue. I outraged about it on Twitter constantly, and I don't even have a Twitter account
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Aug 29, 2018 16:50
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Node posted:I outraged about it on Twitter constantly, and I don't even have a Twitter account "You think me some LIMP PRICK?!!" -My favorite line from Witcher II
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Aug 29, 2018 16:52
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GreatGreen posted:Nobody is clutching their pearls at naughty words. oval office is fine, and fun to say. People are bothered by the voice acting delivery and how awkwardly the swear words are shoved into the dialog. Good swearing usage takes a bit of artistry. This is the key. Its not just swearing vs not swearing or using certain words. It may be hard to articulate but you feel it when you hear dialogue that doesnt have the spark in the swearing. Id liken it to a Tarantino script vs. high schoolers idea of a tarantino script. The cursing in the vert slice demo leaned very hard towards the latter but cdprjekts record on writing is pretty good so i reserve hope for the real game.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:02
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GreatGreen posted:Also, that list of gangs above is the most tryhard, monkey-cheese thing I’ve seen in years. Late seventies was all about various weird little gangs that espoused odd philosophies, like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army, or the weathermen. Extrapolation into the eighties was that you'd end up with more splintering and identity politics leading towards small groups, which is where 'The Warriors' came in. Of course now we know that gangs don't organize around stupid names and uniforms like the 'proud boys' or any number of different biker gangs from the Warlocks to the Nightwolves; that would just be completely monkey-cheese. Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Boooooooooo It's reviled worldwide, but America tends to pretend like it has some moral virtue over such things and everyone starts clutching their pearls.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:12
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brb going to england to call hyper kids spazzes and then look smug when their parents get mad
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Aug 29, 2018 17:14
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Hav posted:, but America tends to pretend like it has some moral virtue over such things and everyone starts clutching their pearls. The American way 
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Aug 29, 2018 17:17
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I'm surprised that people are applying American standards to... *squints*... a videogame set in America.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:17
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Ah yes the classy and mature dialogue of the Witcher 3 with such gems as "See you're a man well traveled, so tell me... should I beat me wench once a week, or oftener?" "Ohh you wouldn't know a good tale from a runny fart." "I went to empty my bowels - my favorite part of the day. Defecatin' to the sunrise - downright glorious..." and the random guards who fart and then laugh at themselves. I mean yeah it did have good dialogue too but come on now it wasn't some beacon of mature game writing. The Cyberpunk demo seems perfectly on par, I'm sure there'll be good dialogue in the deeper conversations.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:22
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Hav posted:Of course now we know that gangs don't organize around stupid names and uniforms like the 'proud boys' or any number of different biker gangs from the Warlocks to the Nightwolves; that would just be completely monkey-cheese.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:23
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WoodrowSkillson posted:brb going to england to call hyper kids spazzes and then look smug when their parents get mad Just go with 'spastic' - The flat 'a' really makes it. Nothing beats Afrikaaner for swearing though. It's a heavy mattock of a language.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:25
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Rinkles posted:Rozenek is a much better Geralt imo. (But it's clear that in 3 most of the production was focused on the English version)
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Aug 29, 2018 17:26
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Jerkface posted:This is the key. Its not just swearing vs not swearing or using certain words. It may be hard to articulate but you feel it when you hear dialogue that doesnt have the spark in the swearing. Id liken it to a Tarantino script vs. high schoolers idea of a tarantino script. ya they were extremely up front about it being a risky move to show off an interactive proof of concept demo specifically to get fan feedback. that's a refreshing level of honesty between dev and end user, but they've always had that edge coming from the humble beginnings of being software pirates. def gonna preorder on GOG as soon as it's available.
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Aug 29, 2018 17:27
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