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EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Rest in piss, Hyde.

Speaking of which, I was wondering why a hotel would have a blacklight, but then I remembered what usually happens in hotels.

EagerSleeper fucked around with this message at 04:02 on May 27, 2018

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1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

EagerSleeper posted:

Rest in piss, Hyde.

Speaking of which, I was wondering why a hotel would have a blacklight, but then I remembered what usually happens in hotels.

Oh, a video link! I wonder what it's about...
:gonk:

Thankfully Rosa is extremely diligent so we don't have to deal with rooms THAT bad in this game. For now.

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 08:05 on May 27, 2018

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017



Music: Hangover Blues It's not Drunken Waltz, so we're fine.
Hyde! What in the hell are ya doin' in here?
Isn't this the lobby?
Don't get smart with me, pal. This is my own room!
My mistake. Sorry to barge in.
If yer sorry, then haul yerself outta here!
Now, buddy! Move it!

(The picture of the young girl in Dunning's room... Who could it be?)



Wait, we're still here? Dunning's awfully nice lately.

Music: Monochrome
Again, nothing to do. So we go out to the lobby.





This feels familiar for some reason...





Music: Easy Feeling
Got a minute?



Great...

Isha lovely night, isn't it? Haw haw haaaaw!
I see you're in a good mood.
Thassh not...*hic*...true. I'm jussshh...
Haw haw har!
(Drunk as a skunk...)
Been to the bar, huh?
I have! Yessir...
Your daughter was looking for you.
Yer a liar, Mr. Hyde. A LIAR!
I'm a liar?
Thassh right! My liddle girl... She...HATESH me!

Transcribing drunk dialogue is fun.

She'd never look fer me. Thass why I know yer lyin'... Haw haw!
She was looking for you. Go to your room and ask her. If you can make it that far.
Mine yer business!
Whadda YOU know? ...NUSHING! Thash what! Get outta my life! Leave me alone!

Kevin turns and stumbles his way towards the front desk.

(What the hell's eating him?)

Music: Monochrome


Obviously we should chase him!









The nice thing here is that Kevin will always be facing away from you. I neglected to mention this earlier, but actually when there's a character on the map screen they will always be facing to/away from Kyle, no matter where he's standing.

Music: Easy Feeling
Got a minute?
Don't want... Don't want company... Lemme...alone...
Just lemme alone...



Hey.



You OK?

What's wrong?
Iss nothing... I don't trink mush, and now I don't feel... Feel shhho good...

(??? Who were you drinking with? ???)

Music: Rainy Night


Write note/Read note/Show anything


Who were you drinking with?

Who were you drinking with?
What difference...that make?
Iss nonna yer ...BUSINESS!!
Have it your way.

Music: Easy Feeling
Don't want company... Lemme...alone...

Music: Monochrome
Oh no. Kevin won't talk to us. What do we do now.

(Wonder who Kevin was throwing them back with?)

Thanks for the tip. Now we know just who to ask. To the bar!

Music: Over Easy


(It's Iris.)



The drinks were delicious. I was pleasantly surprised.
Good to hear...I think. Anyway, hope ya come back.



I don't think this sprite is used anywhere else.

See ya later.
Hey.
GYYAAA! Dammit! Stop sneakin' around, Hyde! You're gonna give me a heart attack!
If you weren't moonin' over the dame, you'd have heard me come in.
Ah, Mr. Hyde. As tactful as ever, I see.
If you'll excuse me?

Iris turns and totters out of the bar.

Music: High Spirits


We talk to Louie now. For the record, I'm putting the Monochrome, Over Easy and High Spirits music links everytime we go to the map screen because otherwise they won't be used.

Music: Easy Feeling
Looks like you were having a good time.
Don't be gettin' the wrong idea, brother. I was just makin' sure the lady enjoyed herself. Part of the job.
Whatever you say, Louie. You may want to pick your tongue off the floor, though.

At least Iris looks a lot happier than when we saw her last time.

Give it a rest already. Ya wanna drink?
No, not now.
Yeah, I hear ya. You've had enough tonight anyway. Knowing when to stop shows ya appreciate a good drink. Can't abuse the stuff, right?
Forget that and ya'll end up like the dynamic duo I had in earlier. Sloshed to the gills!

(??? Dynamic duo? ???)

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
So whatcha lookin' at?
Write note
Yo, whatcha writin'?

Who's the girl in the photo?

There's a framed photo of a little girl in Dunning's room. You know who it is?
Picture of a kid?
No clue, man. Dunning ain't never invited me in for tea and cookies, ya dig?

Who was drinking in here?

Who's the dynamic duo, Louie?
Well, the better half just left. That babe Iris was tossin' 'em back with Melissa's pops.
Kevin and Iris were drinking together?
Yeah, and more'n a little! Got back from putting Melissa to bed and here they are! Planted at the counter like a couple of regulars! Looked like they was talkin' 'bout something serious, too.

(??? What were they talking about? ???)

Then they both pounded back a row of drinks and got fried to the tonsils.
Melissa's pops ain't much of a drinker. Thought he might repaint the bar, yeah? Luckily for me, he got up and stumbled outta here. Iris stuck around and had a couple more. She wasn't as bad off as I thought. Hurts to say it, man, but she wasn't here to chat me up. She was just killin' time.

Louie: Lucky for me that Kevin won't puke in the bar. If he pukes outside the bar that's Rosa's problem! Not mine! :effort:
Also, I thought Louie was escorting Melissa to her room. If after that he went back to the bar and saw Kevin already drunk, does it mean they just serve themselves drink? Is that even allowed?


What were they talking about?

So what were they talking about?



As you'll see later this update, this is kinda accurate.

You telling me you didn't overhear anything?
Well...
I guess I did hear something. Melissa's pops said something about a Gallery May in Santa Monica.

(??? Gallery May? Santa Monica? ???)

What about the gallery?

What did he say about the gallery?
Sorry, brother. All I heard was a name.
Guy was slurrin' like a prize-fighter, yeah?
(Gallery May in Santa Monica?)
(Does all this tie in to where Mila's father works?)

Music: Easy Feeling
What's up, Hyde? Ya thinkin' deep again?
You could say that.
Well, c'mon, man! Don't leave me hangin'. What is it?
I learned some things about Mila's old man.
You did? How? More snoopin'?
I asked Mila some questions and had her write the answers in my notebook.
drat! Why didn't I thinka that?
Mila's old man is named Robert Evans. He owns Gallery May in Santa Monica.
Whoa! There ain't two of 'em, no?
Doubt it.
Yo, Hyde. You thinkin' what I'm thinkin'?
It depresses me, but yeah. I guess I am. Strange things from strange sources, huh? I better have a chat with your drunken friends.

Music: High Spirits
Talking to Louie again just gives the same response as back in Chapter 6. When we go out of the bar...

(Here we go... Think I'll start with Iris.)

Music: Over Easy
Music: Monochrome


If we try talking to Kevin again (notice how he's facing us now)

Music: Easy Feeling
Got a minute?
I'm not feeling well. Go away. Please, just...

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I had completely forgotten there was a Confrontation with Iris.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I had completely forgotten there was a Confrontation with Iris.

What's not in the next update: Confrontation with Iris.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017





Knock

Music: Slow Steps




Something I wanted to ask you.
...Fine.
You know anybody runs a gallery down in Santa Monica?
That's a rather odd question, isn't it?
You were talking about a gallery at the bar. While you were drinking with Kevin Woodward? Remember? Guy from Room 219?
I remember my actions quite well, thank you. I didn't black out or anything. And what business is this of yours?
Just curious.
Do you want me to believe that you've suddenly become a patron of the arts?
Yeah, that's me. I'm a big fan of apple paintings and armless statues.

Sure, Kyle. I'm sure Iris believes you.

Hmph!
If you must know, I merely mentioned a gallery where an associate of mine works. Mr. Woodward then told me, with no prompting from me, that he knew of it.

(??? Woodward knew the gallery? ???)

Actually, I... I'm glad you're here. I need to speak with you about something. Believe it or not, I don't have anyone else to turn to for help.
Oh, I believe it.

Ouch

Just come in, will you?

Music: Monochrome


Welcome to Room 216. We can't examine anything here. There are no paintings above the bed this time, only the one shown on that screenshot.

Music: Slow Steps
So where's the fire, Iris?
When I returned to my room, it felt...odd.



Hey.



What's odd?

What's odd?
My suitcase has been moved! It's subtle, but it's definitely been moved.
You're sure?
Yes, I'm positive. Someone's been in here. Whoever it was must have waited until I was out, then broke in.

(??? Was anything stolen? ???)

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
What are you looking at?
Write note
Mr. Hyde, what are you writing?

Was anything stolen?

Was anything stolen?
...Yes.
You contact the front desk? I hear Dunning has experience with this kind of thing.
Not yet.
I mean I should, but...
There'll be so many questions, and I hate questions. Besides, no one ever tries to catch a thief unless lots of money is stolen.

I think Louie would try to help Iris since, well, it's Louie. Dunning would just be :effort:

So they didn't take your money?
That's right.
...So what DID they take?
I can't say.
Then I can't help.
You would consider helping me?
Depends on how cooperative you are.



The last two sprites appear for a split second, but it's amusing enough so I just have to put it in.

I lost a small envelope.

(??? Wonder what was in it... ???)

What about the gallery?

So what's the name of the gallery you know?



Wait a second.



How do you know it?

How do you know about the place?
...A friend of mine works there.
That's all.

What was in the envelope?

So what was in this small envelope? A small letter?
I can't tell you.
I was sworn to secrecy, Mr. Hyde. You must believe me. I made a promise to the person who gave it to me.

(??? You got it from someone else? ???)

Who gave you the envelope?

So someone gave you the envelope, right? Anything else you can tell me? Was there anything written on it?
I can't say.
Then I can't help.
Good luck, lady.
I'm outta here.
Why must you be such a crass, insensitive lout?!
Fine! Fine, I'll tell you! Just...give me a moment...
I'm impatient. Who gave it to you?
It was Grace.

(??? Who the hell's Grace? ???)

You'll find her name written on the back of the envelope.

Who is Grace?

You going to tell me who Grace is?
She's...a friend.
What kind of friend?
She's a friend, Mr. Hyde! What about that is so difficult for you to comprehend? You may live your life under a rock somewhere, but I... Oh, why am I talking to you about this? It's none of your business!
None of my business? All right, lady, whatever you say.

That's a nice thing to say to someone you asked for help.

Music: Slow Steps
All right. I'm off. I'll drop in if I find anything.
...Thank you. Helping me is more kindness than I expected.
Don't get used to it. I ain't doing this for you.
But then...
I'm just curious about what got stolen. That's all.
You don't say?
Oh, but I do. Got a hunch about your mystery envelope and whatever's inside it. I think it's going to shine a light on some shadows I've been following for a while.

Glad Kyle's poetry isn't exclusive to end-of-chapter quizzes.

Mr. Hyde, what on earth are you talking about?
See ya.

Kyle goes out of the room.

(A little envelope...)
(Something that would fit inside a little envelope...)

Music: Monochrome


Hey, look who's there. Let's get closer.





Uh...nothing...
Good-bye.

Kevin leaves.

(Wonder if he was hoping to see Iris.)
(Either way, he's up to something. Guess it's time to put the good doctor to the coals.)

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
That explains why I don't remember.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Yeah, we haven't had any confrontation with Iris. Yet. Maybe we'll have it later, maybe we won't have it.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017



Music: Easy Feeling
You got a minute?
Go away.
What're you doing here?
Go away. I just... I just want to be by myself.
I got questions for you.
Didn't you hear me? I'm not...in any condition to speak right now...

Music: Resolution


Were you looking for Iris?



Easy, doc.



You two had business?

Were you looking for Iris? Heard you two tossed a few back in the bar.
...And?
...And if I were?



What were you and Iris chatting about? You two been friends long?
Why... Why are you asking me these things? I don't... You have no right... It doesn't matter who my friends are... Who I talk to. You don't have a right to HOUND me like this! I don't have to tell you anything!
Don't be a mean drunk, doc. Just talk to me.
Enough... Enough!



Close your head!

This basically means "Shut up!" but I'm not sure if it's been used in 1979. I also don't think it's been used much recently.



I got reasons for asking.

I ain't asking these questions for my health, all right?
Then why ARE you asking them? Why are you...
I'm looking for someone.
Looking? You? Ha! I don't... Don't believe it...
That's right. There's a young girl staying here who's looking for her father.
Are you talking about Melissa? How... How DARE you!
No. Different kid. So I need to ask you about Gallery May. In Santa Monica? Seems the girl's father owns the joint.
...Really?
You know the place, right? Gallery May?
Y-yes...
How?
How? Well, my...



We're done... We're done here... I'm going back to my room.
Not yet, doc. I've got some questions.
Mr. Hyde, what... What do you want...? Yes, I... I know Gallery May. My wife used to work there before she... She... She used to work there. Iris is just... We just met. We had drinks. That's why my head...my head hurts... She mentioned the gallery. I was...surprised. That's all. No mystery. No... There's no mystery here. I don't know the owner... Never met him.
You playing straight with me?
Gya! Enough! Please, Mr. Hyde, please...
My head hurts, and I'm tired, and I know nothing!
Nothing, huh? You're hiding something. Spill it.
How... How DARE you! We're done! Done talking! My problems are MINE! Got it? MINE! NOT yours! ...Not yours...
Not my business, huh?
Look, you... You were kind to my daughter, and... And I think you... Maybe you mean well... But that's enough. I have limits... I'm not going to...unfold my life to a...a stranger.
All right, point made. Let's step back a second. We've both been around the block, right? Got a few scars to show for it? I got no interest in digging in your private life. But there's something you know... And that something's the key I need to find what I'm looking for.
What you're...looking for? What's that?
It's got nothing to do with you. But you answer my questions, and I'll tell you what you want to know.

Music: On the Rocks


Talk about Iris.

Let's talk about Iris.



Let's not assume the worst, shall we?

I believe you just met.

This is the first time you met her?
That's right. I... I never met her before tonight.



Who is Grace?

Who's Grace?
Melissa's mother. My...my wife. Iris...Iris mentioned Gallery May in the bar. It...surprised me. But THEN! Then...she told me she knew Grace! I didn't... I couldn't... I didn't know what to say.

Melissa actually mentioned Grace the second time we met her, back in Chapter 1.

What else does she know? Does she know your wife left you?
I...I don't know.
Why didn't you ask her? Maybe she knows where your wife is now.
NO! I'm... I'm TIRED of talking to strangers about how my wife left me! I have SOME pride! Some... But...
Oh, who... Who am I kidding? It's all my fault!



Why did Grace leave?

Why'd she leave you?
That, um...
I...

Talk about Gallery May.

I got a hunch about Gallery May.



Remember, Kevin is a doctor. I don't think he would work at a gallery.

You never worked there.

You never worked there. So when did she start at the gallery?
No, I... I didn't, but she was... She was there seven years ago...
Long time.
Wife was working at the gallery when we... When we got married. Then Melissa was born, and... She took a few years off. It was important... She thought spending time together was important... But she missed the gallery. She... She wanted to use her training... So... So when Melissa turned two, Grace found work at an art museum.
And things were still all right between the two of you?
...Yes.



Talk about Grace.

I bet I know what went wrong between you and the wife.



Melissa might blame herself, but it's unlikely that Grace left just because Melissa yelled at her.

It was you.

It was you. Right, doc?



How was it your fault?

How was it your fault? What did you do?
Well, er...
...Urp!

Music stops
Aaah... Uuuuurrp!
You feelin' low?
My... My head... It's going to explode...
I bet. Well, you'd better get to your room before you make Rosa's life a living hell. Can you make it? 'Cause I ain't carrying you.
You're right, it's... It's just like you said...
I'm right?
Hey, hold up.
What...is it?
You're pathetic, you know that? I give you a load'a crap about how you raise your kid, and you don't get mad? No woman likes a coward, pal. I bet that's why your wife left you high and dry.
Oh YEAH? Oh... Oh yeah...?
I bet she'd been planning to dump you for a long time. You know she left a message on the back of one of Melissa's puzzles, right? The one she gave her as a gift? She left a good-bye message on the back.
She did...did what?
You didn't know? Where's your head at, doc?
I never knew...
That was the problem. I never knew anything.





Music: Insomnia
You wanna hear my story, Mr. Hyde? I'll tell you... everything.
Tell you what. You want to talk? I'll stand here till I get bored.
Two years ago, I... I lost a patient in the operating room. I did what I could, but... The family... They sued me. Sued for malpractice, and...
They won, huh?
TOh, yes. They won... A court made me pay... It was so much money, and my insurance wouldn't...



I was...drowning. I didn't know what to do.



When they gave me the verdice, I... I asked for a divorce. It was MY mistake, my... I... I didn't want Grace to pay for my mistake. But Grace refused. She... She said no. She told me no.



She was going to... She told me... Told me she would raise the money.
And?
She did. Yeah, she... I don't know where it came from, but...she did it.
How?
She made me promise not to ask. Said it was a...a price we paid to stay together. Said we'd be together forever...
She was WRONG! ...Wrong. I loved her. From that day, I just... I just loved her so drat much... She was everything. But you know what? I didn't... I didn't trust her. ...How crazy is that?



And so I asked her and asked her and asked her... But she WOULDN'T TELL ME!



We saw that particular flashback when we confronted Melissa.

Then one day, she... She...
She left you.
Yes.
I tried to find her. I've been everywhere and tried and... I don't know. I don't know.
So why'd you come here?
Matches. I found a matchbook from this hotel. It was in... In her purse. So I came here. I thought I could find a clue or a... You know. A clue...
Just one little clue. But I failed. I failed, I... I didn't find a drat thing.
So you're right, Mr. Hyde. I didn't know anything. I'm a loser. I'm pathetic.

Music: Violet Sky
That's one word for it.
I know...
But I think you're going to pull out of this. You've got a chance.
I... I do?
Comes a day in every man's life when he realizes he's a fool. But you got someone who needs you, no matter what a lousy drunk you are. You know what I'm saying, doc?
I...
You can pull your rear end out of the gutter for that person. Right?
Mr. Hyde...
Melissa loves you more than anything. You're family. Hell, you're the only family she's got left.

Music stops
Kyle leaves the room.



(Wonder how Grace scored all that cash. Why did she come to Hotel Dusk? And how are Iris and Grace connected? Take a deep breath, Hyde...)
(Get your ducks in a row here...)

Kevin's reactions:

Read note
What are you looking at?
Write note
What are you writing?

Kevin doesn't have special responses for previous items. There are, however, plenty of items we can show since the last time we saw him.

Show old photo
An old photo, mmm?
Show potato chips
If you knew what those things did to your insides, you'd never eat them again.
I think I'll pass.
Show chocolate bar
Chocolate, is it?
Huh? No, not for me. Thank you anyway...
Show room 217 key
That's the key to Room 217.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

tomanton posted:

I did play this once upon a time, but since I've been wrong before and I don't think anyone else took a stab all week I thiiiiiiiink Kevin is next? I remember Kyle getting to the bottom of the whole Melissa's mom thing, but not what kicks it off.

Yes, you're correct. :toot:

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Kyle should just become a professional therapist.

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
: G-god... I must be such a loser... :qq:

: That is true.

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato

1234567890num posted:

Yes, you're correct. :toot:
booya

In the end I'd say I remember a lot less about this game than I thought I did, and I draw a complete blank from here to the climax, so game on. :munch:

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer
drat Kyle, you don't mince words. But hopefully gets his poo poo together after this. Lessons for everyone: don't hide poo poo from your partner, you gotta have that trust

I'm surprised his malpractice insurance didn't pay out, I'd be pretty pissed about that. I wonder if he showed up drunk at the OR, or if the drinking started afterwards.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

I don't trust Kyle to become a therapist. He might be good at figuring out the troubles and solving them (mostly), he's absolutely terrible at handling and delivering the solution. So far:

Louie: Your friend kills my friend! I want to find and kill him! Let's team up!
Kyle: :jerkbag:

Melissa: My mom left right after I said I hate her! It's all my fault!
Kyle: No, it's not. Now get back to your room.

Martin: I stole my friend's work and now he's missing, probably being depressed because of me. I'm sorry.
Kyle: Yeah, it's all your fault. You should be ashamed. (This one is probably deserved)

Jeff: I stole my father's money because I didn't agree with who he's defending. I might also admit both of our crimes to bring him down.
Kyle: You're an idiot. Leave me out of this.

Helen: I left my son for decades, only deciding to meet each other every decade for some reason. However, he disappeared.
Kyle: Here's your son's pen. He's betrayed by someone in hotel. Not telling who's though. (To be fair, he's not a jerk in this one)

Kevin: I pressured my wife into telling me things that she REALLY would rather not, and she left because I kept doing it. I'm pathetic.
Kyle: Yes, you are. Stop being pathetic.

His advices are mostly solid, but he just put it so bluntly that he wouldn't make a great therapist. It is his charm as an ex-detective, though.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Play It Again


While I was enjoying some good scotch, Summer barged in. I told him that Helen was Alan's mother, then split before he talked more. After leaving the bar, I ran into...



Rosa
No, that ain't right. Rosa wasn't in the hallway at the time.
Iris
No, that ain't right. I didn't bump into Iris.

Melissa

Music: Midnight
That's right. Melissa was roaming the hallway outside the bar. She was looking for her old man, Kevin, and she didn't look happy.

Music: Play It Again


But something about how sad she looked stayed with me. After talking with Rosa, I decided to get the hotel Christmas tree out of storage. Figured a tree with all the trimmings might pick the kid's spirits up. The room where I found the tree was...



Really, Kyle? You just told us the answer literally 3 dialogue boxes ago!

Rosa's room
No, that ain't right. There was no tree in Rosa's room.
Kitchen
No, that ain't right. There was no tree in the kitchen.

Storage

Music: Midnight
That's right. I dug the tree out of a box in the storage room. Then I decorated it for Melissa.
Hadn't done anything like that in years. Made me look like a sap, but it actually wasn't a half-bad time...

You mean decorated it with Melissa.

Music: Play It Again


She looked pretty happy to celebrate Christmas, even if it was three days late. Couple of other people heard about the tree and came down to join us. First was Mila, and then...



Kevin
No, that ain't right. Melissa's old man didn't bother to show.
Dunning
No, that ain't right. Dunning didn't show.

Louie

Music: Midnight
That's right. Who else would crash a party but Louie? Guy's got a nose for bright lights and dames.

Music: Play It Again


After Melissa fell asleep, Louie took her back to her room. Mila and I were left in the storage room, so I got out my notebook. That's when I learned that Mila's father owned his own business. The name of it was...



Seven Stars
No, that ain't right. That's the name of the hotel bar.
Moonlight Grill
No, that ain't right. That's the name of the hotel restaurant.

Gallery May

Music: Midnight
That's right. Mila wrote the name down in my notebook. Mila's father owns an art gallery in Santa Monica. It's called Gallery May.

Music: Play It Again


He said they were talking about Gallery May. That's when I decided to ask the two of them some questions. But when I went to 216 to see Iris, I learned something else. A mystery man broke into Iris's room and nicked something from her. The thief made off with...

The "Iris's" part is the game's fault.



A matchbook
No, that ain't right. The matches were on a counter in a bar.
A fountain pen
No, that ain't right. I returned the fountain pen to Helen.

A small envelope

Music: Midnight
That's right. Whoever it was took a small envelope. At least that's what Iris said.

Music: Play It Again


Evening wasn't a total bust, though. Kevin tied one on, and I waved the fumes away long enough to grill him. He told me Melissa's mom, Grae, worked at a place called Gallery May. Also told me about some malpractice suit he lost a few years back. But I need to know how Grace raised the money to pay the thing off.

Music: Silent Moon
As I listened to Kevin spill his guts, an idea started to swirl in my brain. There's a connection here. Bradley disappears with Osterzone's angel painting... Doc's missing wife works at an art gallery. Like my old man used to say, "Where there's stink, there's flies." You hear me coming, Bradley? Hotel Dusk's got the key to this whole mess, and I'm going to find it tonight.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

1234567890num posted:

I don't trust Kyle to become a therapist. He might be good at figuring out the troubles and solving them (mostly), he's absolutely terrible at handling and delivering the solution. So far:

Louie: Your friend kills my friend! I want to find and kill him! Let's team up!
Kyle: :jerkbag:

Melissa: My mom left right after I said I hate her! It's all my fault!
Kyle: No, it's not. Now get back to your room.

Martin: I stole my friend's work and now he's missing, probably being depressed because of me. I'm sorry.
Kyle: Yeah, it's all your fault. You should be ashamed. (This one is probably deserved)

Jeff: I stole my father's money because I didn't agree with who he's defending. I might also admit both of our crimes to bring him down.
Kyle: You're an idiot. Leave me out of this.

Helen: I left my son for decades, only deciding to meet each other every decade for some reason. However, he disappeared.
Kyle: Here's your son's pen. He's betrayed by someone in hotel. Not telling who's though. (To be fair, he's not a jerk in this one)

Kevin: I pressured my wife into telling me things that she REALLY would rather not, and she left because I kept doing it. I'm pathetic.
Kyle: Yes, you are. Stop being pathetic.

His advices are mostly solid, but he just put it so bluntly that he wouldn't make a great therapist. It is his charm as an ex-detective, though.

So you're saying he went to the Norman Osborn School of Helpful Advice?

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017


Yeah, pretty much.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates (Sapu)


No phone call from Rachel this time.



I'll have a martini.

Why do you think I'm here? Give me a martini. Make it dry.

The rest goes the same for now...



Because you keep pestering them until they do?





Not this guy!

Not a one, pal.
Yeah, all right. Have it your way.

Kyle then sits as usual. But because we ordered differently...





The world stops for a moment as I sit and stare into the glass. The taste of gin and vermouth lingers on my lips. The only kiss I've known in years...

Notice how there's no picture of Kyle with the glass like with the scotch one. And that this is a missed opportunity for a James Bond reference.
After Kyle reminisce about Bradley, Louie called.


How's the martini? Ya know, someone once called it the "elixir of quietude."
Smart man, too. I gotta hand it to you, Louie, this is the best martini I've ever had. You even got the perfect amount of lemon in it.







...It's a lie.

No, I... I was lying.
'Course not, man. ...I knew that.
You was just trying to set me straight, yeah? I getcha, Hyde.
But, hey, who's gonna believe a cop's pops was crackin' safes? Gotta do better next time, dig?
...Yeah. I'll... I'll do that.

Yup, the story really seems like it's true after all.



I don't get it.



Kyle, why are you smiling?

I'm talking 'bout bowling! You know? Balls? Pins? Those little hand-dryer thingies?
I thought I was the only guy around here who liked bowling.
Get outta here! You roll, Hyde? No way!
You want to see? When I throw a strike, pins beg for mercy.
Yeah, right. What else ya sellin'?





Talk about plagiarism.

It's about you being a low-down book thief.
Yes, the manuscript...
What's your plan?



As a reminder, this is about who we gave the pen to.

I better lie to him.

The maid. Rosa.
What did you say? The person for whom you requested my autograph?
Yeah, she's a fan of yours.
I...see... She must have been gravely disappointed to learn of my duplicity.
Could be.
Hmm?

Here ya go!



Forgive me, but please cancel my order. I find I've lost my thirst.
Huh?
If you'll excuse me...

Summer turns and slowly walks away, head down and shoulders slumped.

Man, what happened? You kill his cat or somethin'?
Nothing.
Whatever you say... Well, hope you like drinkin' alone.

Louie leaves.

(Guess I didn't need to say that.)

That didn't go so well. We didn't get to learn about Cecily Lee. Oh well, let's go outside.

Music: High Spirits
Music: Over Easy
Music: Monochrome


We didn't meet Melissa, and Rosa's waiting at a different spot.

Music: Hangover Blues
Hey, Rosa.
Oh, hello, Mr. Hyde. Sigh...
Glad I inspire such high spirits. What's wrong?
Well, Mr. Summer just came up to me and... He asked me the strangest thing! He asked me to return his autograph. Can you believe it?
Huh?
Exactly! I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I can't very well erase it...and I'm not giving him my book! I don't care if he wrote it!
And when I asked him what was wrong? And why he needed it back? He just kept saying the same thing over and over; "You know why! You know why!" And he was red in the face! It was like talking to a tomato, and for a fact!

I think we broke Martin :ohdearsass: Also, does him being red like a tomato count as a red aura? Because we didn't get one when we're talking to him and I'm have a feeling that a Game Over is coming.







Oh, poo poo! I was right :kingsley: At least the music hasn't changed. Yet.

So here ya are, Hyde.
You need me for something?
Got somethin' to ask ya!
Something wrong, Mr. Smith?
Ya could say that!
Mr. Summer just checked outta the hotel.
He checked out? Really? At this hour? But why?
Hell if I know!
So? What's this got to do with me?
I'm gettin' to it, all right?
I thought ya might know why Mr. Summer decided to skedaddle off!
What?

Music: Drunken Waltz
And there it is! Kyle's hosed.

I heard Mr. Summer mumblin' to himself on his way out the door. Said he wished he'd never talked to ya.
What?

Music: Dream's End
(Way to go, Hyde. This is what I get for lying to Summer earlier.)







...drat.



Wait, you're still here? Oh, right. We're not kicked out yet.

Something wrong, Hyde?
Yeah, maybe... I gave Summer a hard time earlier. Didn't think he'd get so upset he'd leave the hotel.
Land sakes, Mr. Hyde! What were you thinking? He was-

Music: Drunken Waltz
Shut yer yap, Rosa.
Don't talk to me like that, you old sourpuss! And why aren't you angry?

That's a VERY good question.

Don't let it bother ya, Mr. Hyde. Truth be told, I never liked that puffed-up fool. Guy never knew when to shut up.
...Really?
And he worried 'bout every little thing! Little mama's boy, that one! What sorta man don't get havin' a drink and needlin' his pals? All he had t'do was laugh it off and give ya a shot back. Am I right?
I guess...
drat straight I am!
Well, that's what I was thinking.
Look at that, Mr. Hyde. You and me agree on somethin'.
What say we amble down to the bar and have ourselves a drink? Nothin' washes away the stress like a stiff belt, am I right?
Sure. Why not?
Rosa! I'm gonna let you finish up here. I'm gonna go buy Mr. Hyde a drink.
Why am I not surprised?
C'mon, Mr. Hyde! We got a long night ahead of us!
We do?






Louie: 6
Jeff: 6
Dunning: 5
Rosa: 5
Martin: 4
Melissa: 2
Iris: 1
Helen: 1


Best game over in the game. Hyde gets to drink all night long for free. That must be nice. Too bad about Bradley, though.

Music: Sapu


I'll tell him the truth.





Rosa won't appear until we deal with Melissa.

Oh, yeah. Tons.

Yeah, tons. I had to chop down a redwood tree so they could all fit under it.
Wow!
Nice, huh?
Uh-huh.



The end of the conversation has something new.

Hey, kid. Don't worry about your old man. He'll be back soon. Go wait in your room.

But I got something I think you'd like.
Something I'd like?



Yeah. it's Pinkie Rabbit. Take it.

There's a minor typo in the game.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! I got Mister Rabbit!
Now go back to your room and take a nap or something.

Melissa heads out the door.

:unsmith:

Melissa doesn't sigh this time. Obviously this only happens if we have the doll, which means getting it from the vending machine and not giving it to Mila.

We didn't actually have the chance to show it to Melissa. We get the coins in Chapter 4 and we can't show items when she asked Kyle to sew the doll in Chapter 6. Technically we still didn't "show" the doll, Kyle just automatically gives it to her. We won't be able to show her our snacks.

We haven't seen Kevin's reactions to the doll since we haven't met him since Chapter 3. Technically you can try doing it by getting the doll after this point, but I'm not going to bother replaying 2/3 of the game just for a single line of reaction that may or may not be generic.




All in all, a nice update. Everyone had a great time. Except Martin.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I've been waiting so long for this game over. :allears:

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Holy poo poo, I could stand more game overs if they were all that hilarious.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

"Want even more booze, Hyde?"

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates (Sapu)




We can actually go back and talk to Martin and Louie.

Music: Easy Feeling
I must tell you, the barkeep makes a most satisfying gin and tonic, sir. Nothing quite like marriage of lime and gin to pick up one's spirits, eh?
Shut up and drink, Summer.

Kyle not-so-secretly agrees with you, Martin.



You need a drink?
Not now.

Let's talk to Rosa. Not like we have a choice since it happens automatically once we exit the restaurant.

Music: Sapu


She misses her mom.

Her mom ran out on her.
Is that so?
Yeah.
Poor child. All family have their grief, but... Losing a mother? That's too much to ask of any child!



We don't get to see Rosa's people reading ability this time.



Don't know. Don't care.

We're back to JerKyle now.

No idea. I don't get why she's so crazy about the whole thing, anyway.
What kind of thing is that to say?!
Children love Christmas! Why, when I was a child, I wished EVERY day was Christmas.
I bet.
You, sir, have a bad attitude. We always have such a nice tree near the front desk.
If only Melissa had been here while it was up. I'm sure she would have enjoyed it.
Where's the tree now?
We took the decorations down and put the tree in the first-floor storage room.
See you around.

Rosa have to hint even more about the tree this time. Let's check on Melissa first.





Knock

Music: Pink Rabbit


Your dad back?
Not yet.
I'll tell him to come to your room if I see him. Just hang in there, OK?
'Kay.
(Nice work, Woodward. You're a hell of a father.)







The quit button works for the first minigame, but not the second.





You only have to examine the photo in Dunning's room. Oh, and we can't catch Iris drinking with Kevin in the bar.



I'm still surprised this doesn't lead to a Game Over. Dunning IS awfully nice lately. Notice how he never kicked us out since Chapter 6. Not even when we showed him the "forbidden" items.



And that's all that's new in this timeframe. Wow that's short. Let's look at our notebook.

Music: So Noted





The map is almost complete now. The Boiler Room (the one above the Electrical Room) isn't there since I haven't gone there in this timeline. We only haven't explored the upper left part of the first floor and unless there's a bowling alley there, I don't know how we're going to bowl here.



The only new item in this chapter.

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Can't wait to go play "find the stain" with the blacklight in the old, storied hotel. :unsmigghh:

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

EagerSleeper posted:

Can't wait to go play "find the stain" with the blacklight in the old, storied hotel. :unsmigghh:

Please don't remind me of that video. We don't have time to find the stain anyway since we're going to bowl with Louie.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates (Sapu)




Since Dunning's in a great mood lately, maybe we can ask him about the photo!



Knock

Who is it?

Kyle Hyde.

Music: Hangover Blues


Mr. Hyde? Whatcha want?
You got a minute?

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
What're ya looking at?
Write note
What're ya writing?

Who's the girl in the photo?

Who's the kid in the framed picture you got in your room?
What?
Why the hell ya askin' me that?
Just curious.
Curious? Ya got a funny idea of curious, pal! First ya go into my room, and now this...
Hey, you ain't...

Music: Drunken Waltz
You ain't investigatin' me or anything, are ya?
Ya think I'm guilty or somethin'?
Ya don't act like a regular guest, and I've had enough of yer shenanigans! I don't need headaches like you in my place!
Pack yer things and get out!
Huh?

Music: Dream's End
(Didn't see that coming. Didn't think he'd react like this...)





...drat.




Louie: 6
Jeff: 6
Dunning: 6
Rosa: 5
Martin: 4
Melissa: 2
Iris: 1
Helen: 1


Now that's the Dunning we all know and love!

E: I forgot that you can actually talk to Rosa about the photo too.





Knock

Who's there?

Kyle Hyde.

Music: Hangover Blues


Mr. Hyde? Do you need something?
You got a minute?

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
What are you looking at?
Write note
What are you writing?

Who's the girl in the photo?

There's a photo of a young girl in Dunning's room. You know who it is?
A photo of a young girl? Hmm... A photo of...
Oh! You mean that framed picture he keeps above the fireplace! I remember seeing it there, but... Oh, mercy me... I don't have a clue who the child is. Not a one.

Music: Hangover Blues
Is that everything?
Good-bye, then.

Rosa finishes talking and shuts the door.

Music: Sapu


We can go back to the bar without talking to Kevin. We just have to go through the second floor instead of the lobby.



The quit button here doesn't work, so we have to ask all of these questions.



There's actually a new conversation I missed before.

Music: Easy Feeling
Louie.
Whatcha waitin' for? Ya better check that lead out. Go talk up some cats, yeah?

Music: Sapu
We'll talk to Iris now. Kevin's nowhere to be found for some reason.



Normally I wouldn't press this, but JerKyle can't pass up this chance to be a jerk.



Odder than you? Ha ha!

Odd? You mean something besides yourself, right?
Pardon?
Are you saying I'M odd?
You're such a cad! Get out!



We have to know about the stolen letter to progress. So we have to go back to her. :sigh:





Music: Slow Steps
What now?
Sorry about earlier. I got a bit carried away.
Talk to me. I promise to close my head and listen.
...Very well.



Get to the point, lady. Something happen?
Yes, something happened!

Music: Sapu


We have to ask all the questions to get Kevin to appear. If you show her the men's magazine that Martin claimed had her in it, she gave the same response as before:

Show men's magazine
Are you implying something, Mr. Hyde?



And now we start the confrontation.





Don't get mad at me!

Why you so hot under the collar?



Just go away... Please...
Don't be a mean drunk, doc. We need to talk. You want to talk to me, don't you? 'Course you do.

Loop and skip.





You're a loser, doc!

YOU're out of patience? You don't know the half of it, pal!



You left your little girl alone in a run-down hotel full of strangers! And why? So you could go off and get sauced with some skirt you just met. Can the righteous indignation, doc! You ain't got a leg to stand on.
Mr. Hyde, I... I feel ill. I'm going back to my room.
Hold your horses, doc. We're not done yet.
We're done talking.
Not me. You maybe, but not me.

Loop and skip.



Show NougaChew!
Do you always carry a candy bar around with you?
Not for me, thanks.
Show candy
Candy? No, I...
No thank you.

Talk about Iris.



I bet you're lovers!

You and her got a thing?



I never met her before.

Talk about Gallery May.



You worked there, too.

Did you work there, too?



I'm a...a doctor. I've never worked at a gallery.

Music: Countdown
Mr. Hyde...
What?
What're you SAYING?
I'm saying that-
SHUT UP! I can't... I can't follow you at all. You're... You make no sense. Talking to you is a waste of time...
I gotta go... I'm... I gotta go.
Huh?

Music: Sunset Men
I went back to Room 215.

Another problem I couldn't fix. drat.
He had the information I needed. No way I'll ever catch Bradley now.
Pathetic loser? Hell, Hyde, look in the mirror...

I spent the rest of the night in my room, staring at the ceiling.




Louie: 6
Jeff: 6
Dunning: 6
Rosa: 5
Martin: 4
Melissa: 2
Iris: 1
Helen: 1
Kevin: 1


For some reason, the narration is in first person while all the other ones where Kyle broods are in third person. Don't know why. :iiam:



The third choice was hiding behind the second. As a reminder, if we answer the choice incorrectly we won't get the rest of the questions.

It was Melissa.

It was Melissa.



My wife loved Melissa...

You'll get the Game Over if you answer incorrectly on any of them.



And that's all in Chapter 7. Next chapter: Bowling (probably, somehow).

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Jun 25, 2018

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Kevin is the worst character

Also maybe you get to combine the black light with bowling to create disco bowling

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Kevin is okay in my book. He's just depressed and feeling guilty. It's the either Martin or that one kid who stole his dad's money and tried to blame it on us (I can't remember his name for the life of me) that are my personal least favorite among the bunch.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Jeff Angel was basically a walking :smuggo:

Pyre of Word Salsa
Apr 25, 2017

I pray for a color palette that will not come.

EagerSleeper posted:

Kevin is okay in my book. He's just depressed and feeling guilty. It's the either Martin or that one kid who stole his dad's money and tried to blame it on us (I can't remember his name for the life of me) that are my personal least favorite among the bunch.

Martin and Jeff are pretty low scumbags. Kevin is at least understandable and relatable (especially given how prevalent depression is), but I'd still say that he should've placed more priority on his kid than getting shitfaced. Especially given the fact that she wandered off, got herself locked inside of a hotel room with no lighting, and he probably didn't know about it.

Pyre of Word Salsa fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 12, 2018

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

I just remembered that I forgot to show Kevin's reactions to snacks.

Show NougaChew!
Do you always carry a candy bar around with you?
Not for me, thanks.
Show candy
Candy? No, I...
No thank you.

I'm not going to go through the entire game just to see if he has any reaction to the Pinkie Rabbit Doll or not. And here's the Chapter 7 Summary.

I think Kevin is okay, just depressed and kinda neglectful because of it. Still no Ushiromiya Rosa, though. Jeff is just a reckless idiot who would've been the protagonist in some other stories. Martin, at least he tried (?) to make amends??? Still a scumbag, though.

Also, I made a list of music playable from the jukebox here. I put question marks on the ones we haven't heard yet. Do you guys think the descriptions are too spoilery? I don't really care about hiding the name of some people (such as Helen and Kevin).

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato
The descriptions aren't spoilery now but it may be inevitable for the tracks saved for the endgame.

I don't remember where Hitting the Pavement plays either, but according to the LP it was when helping Melissa with a puzzle. Maybe it comes up again later in a more meaningful scene?

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017



(Eleven o'clock. Time to show Louie how a real man bowls.)
(But first, I've got some real business to take care of. Someone took an envelope from Iris, and I want to know who...and why.)

Music: Monochrome


Let's start the chapter with something misssing from the last one.







Phone The phone's ringing.

Music: Serenity


I hope Ed's paying you for the graveyard shift.
I just do this for kicks, hon. But hey, Ed told me that you're onto something. Did you find a clue about your friend Bradley?
Think so.
Ed's been talking about you all night. Told me all about why he thinks you won't stop looking for Bradley.
Ed talks too much.
I think it explains a lot.
I don't need explaining.
Right. And I don't need a better job. You're just one big puzzle after another, Kyle. But I guess that's what makes you so darn charming.
Rachel, listen. Do you think-
Oops! Sorry, handsome. Ed needs you.



I'm shaking trees, but the acorns aren't falling. No direct ties to Bradley yet, but I did find one thing.
Yeah?
It's a name. I need you to run it for me.
Go.
See what you can dig up on a Gallery May in Santa Monica. And get me the skinny on the owner, too. Guy named Robert Evans.
Gallery May... Robert Evans... Got it.
Thanks. You got fingers in a lot of pies, Ed. I know you can find something. Both names keep popping up in strange places.
And at least one person here is hot to find this Evans character. There's something here, Ed. I know it.
I'll do what I can on my end. But give me details. What are you fishing for?
I met a young girl here. She's wearing the same bracelet that Bradley used to have. Girl's name is Mila.
...Mila? Hyde, are you saying-
No. It's not his sister. Mila says that the bracelet is from her father. Robert Evans. I think she's looking for the guy.

We heard Bradley say Mila's name at the very beginning of the game, although who she is isn't told until now.

This the same guy that owns the gallery?
Yeah. Same guy.
Right. Gimme an hour or so. Let me talk to my people. I'll give you a buzz when I track something down.

Kyle hangs up.

Music: Monochrome
So now we go outside, and there's a footsteps sound.

Huh? ...Sounds like that came from one of the rooms at the end of the hall.

The room at the end of the hall could mean the utility closet, linens room, or even the roof. There's no indication of which one, and no scene when you enter either. I'm going to go ahead and say that it's from the utility closet.



Music: Straight Chaser


Trash can There's something in the garbage can.



Tape



(Wonder who threw this away?)

Brown paper There's some brown paper in here.



(It's addressed to Iris.)
(This must be it.)

Left paper Someone's tossed away some bits of paper.
Right paper I got no use for garbage. Best to leave it be.

Music: Monochrome
Now we got nothing to do. Knocking Iris' door yields no response.

Music: Over Easy
Music: High Spirits


So let's go bowling instead!

Music: Easy Feeling
Kyle Hyde! When he's not solving crimes, he's playin' Santa to the ladies!
Ready to take a licking from this street punk? I'm gonna roll strikes till dawn!
Almost.
But first you have to help me out. I need a cassette player.
Really? Well... I got a deck. It's in my room.



Hey, Louie?



Someone else wanted it?

Who else wanted your cassette deck?
Dunning, man. Came through a little bit ago wantin' to borrow the thing.
Dunning?
Don't ask me, man. Said he wanted some music. Probably country, yeah? Whatcha gonna listen to, Hyde? It ain't disco, yeah? Tell me it ain't disco.
I don't know.
Trip, man. Sounds pretty suspicious.
I'll know when I hear it.
...Tell ya what, man. Thing's just sittin' in my pad. Go ahead and use it, but don't take it outta there.
Thanks.
I'll swing by a bit later.
Oh, but, hey! Don't try to rewind anything! Oh, yeah... And you can't fast-forward, neither. Buttons are all busted up.
Got it.

If we talk to Louie again...

Wanna spin some tunes, man? Sure thing. Grab the box in my room. I'll come by later and make it a party, yeah?
Sure.

Music: High Spirits
The matches have new puzzles in them.

Square Puzzle posted:



The goal is to create four squares. The hard part is to do so by taking away six of the matches.



Triangle Puzzle posted:



The goal is to create three triangles. The hard part is to do so by taking away four of the matches.



Music: Over Easy
Music: Monochrome


It's right across the room. It's even visible on the other screen! You need to work on your observation, Kyle.

Anyway, we've been here before, but this time we can actually examine things.




Music: Straight Chaser


Box He's got all kinds of crap laying around in here.
Stuff on the floor Garbage on the floor... This place smells like the floor of a taxi.





Chair It's a chair.
Coat Louie's coat is hanging on the wall.
Stuff on the wall Walls are covered with newspaper articles and bikini pinups.
Books I got no interest in any book Louie would read.
Shaker Well, well, well. It's a cocktail shaker. Guess this place has some merit.
Upper cans Cans of beer? Ah, Louie, you're so young...
Bottle It's a bottle of booze. If I worked here, I'd need this too.
Table There's a small shelf in the corner of the room.
Dish It's empty.
Lower can That's an empty. Another dead soldier for the pile.
Photo It's a small photo.

Pen It's a ballpoint pen.

(I'm sure I can put it to good use.)
Zoomed-in photo It's a picture of three men.
(Bradley...)

The guy in the middle is Danny and the guy in the right is Bradley, but who's the guy in the left? My guess? Jeff's father.





Bed That's more of a cot than a bed.
Pillow Nice pillow. Looks like a rolled-up blanket or something.
Stuff on the wall Everyone here loves old newspaper clippings. ...And dames in bikinis.
Crate There's a cheap wooden crate next to the bed.
Cassette deck Louie's got a cassette deck sitting on a wooden crate. Real classy.

Zoomed-in deck This cassette deck's seen better days.

Use cassette tape on deck

(The tape's unwound. This is no good.)
(So how do I fix it?)


Cassette tape This tape's unwound.

Time for another environment puzzle! What can we use to wound back the tape?

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

tomanton posted:

The descriptions aren't spoilery now but it may be inevitable for the tracks saved for the endgame.

I don't remember where Hitting the Pavement plays either, but according to the LP it was when helping Melissa with a puzzle. Maybe it comes up again later in a more meaningful scene?

I'll put it in the OP. About the later ones, well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

Hitting the Pavement plays on that scene only, it seems. When I prepared the tracks for the LP and listened to them, I don't recognize this one. At all.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
This is easy, use the end of the ball point pen to wind the tape back up

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Use the pen to wind the tape. Though realistically, a pencil would work better because the hexagon shape grips the teeth better.

I fixed a lot of cassette tapes back in the day.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I think I have a solution for the square puzzle. First remove 2 matches from the upper right corner. Then 2 from the lower left. Then 2 in the middle, which creates a long rectangle.

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I was about to say use a screwdriver, but suggestions about a pen and a pencil are better. :sweatdrop:

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Mraagvpeine posted:

I think I have a solution for the square puzzle. First remove 2 matches from the upper right corner. Then 2 from the lower left. Then 2 in the middle, which creates a long rectangle.



All of the matches must be part of any of the 4 squares. There's 4 matches in here that doesn't fulfill that condition.

DariusLikewise posted:

This is easy, use the end of the ball point pen to wind the tape back up




idhrendur posted:

Use the pen to wind the tape. Though realistically, a pencil would work better because the hexagon shape grips the teeth better.

I fixed a lot of cassette tapes back in the day.


EagerSleeper posted:

I was about to say use a screwdriver, but suggestions about a pen and a pencil are better. :sweatdrop:

Where would we get the pencil, though?

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Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
Huh, wasn't aware of that rule. Okay, I got another possible solution, but do we need to remove exactly 6 or can it be less than that? As for the triangle one, first remove the upper and lower middle matches, making 4 triangles. Then remove any one triangle to create 3 triangles.

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