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Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

NVDA down 10% holy poo poo

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joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie

jvick posted:

$GOON. Right after I sold, it's up above $12.00



I just bought some at 10.30 and now its at 14.21. What the everlovering gently caress.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

Cheesemaster200 posted:

I am sure this would make a great clusterfuck of an argument in LF or somewhere similar, but I don't see how this justifies a sector representing 20% of the US economy taking a complete poo poo over rumors and speculation that AMAZON!!! might get involved in it.

Also again, the healthcare sector does not equate to all health insurance companies.

E: though the more that I look at it, this shitstorm is starting to lose any characteristics of sector performance, so maybe I am just reading the tea leaves too closely.

I mean, they were overvalued when you see that the major national companies that hold the purse strings are being out competed by regional not-for-profits and the biotech companies have stopped doing actual science for the most part and instead are focused on marketing and pushing heroin.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

The Dow is down fifteen hundred loving points what is happening

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
SVXY halted?

:ohdear:

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Feb 5, 2018

emoji
Jun 4, 2004
I wonder how hard DJT is reeeing and which Democrats he'll blame

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

Syrinxx posted:

The Dow is down fifteen hundred loving points what is happening

that was so hosed. it's now -850

I've never been through a sell off before. at what point do you just sell everything and mitigate your losses, or is it just HODL forever

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

greasyhands posted:

I trade profitably, but my timing is so unbelievably bad. I bought a bunch of UVXY at 11.22 the other day and it literally immediately tanked to 10. I held on to it and sold it at 16.75 and it *immediately* shot straight up to 22.50 what in the everloving gently caress that hurts

Yeah, but a short term ~50% gain is nothing to be upset about.

Part of my frustration with this whole healthcare thing is that I bought AMGN a week ago, right before the AMAZON!!! announcement. Mind you I also bought KR right before AMAZON!!! bought WFM as well. I doubled down on KR after they crashed and made a good 35-40% on it in six month. That was actually one of the companies I profit harvested a couple weeks ago to buy AMGN, though luckily I held a chunk of cash back to be conservative.

Also, when does the loving Nasdaq significantly outperform the Dow in a panic selloff? Techs are the new safe stocks?

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I mean, they were overvalued when you see that the major national companies that hold the purse strings are being out competed by regional not-for-profits and the biotech companies have stopped doing actual science for the most part and instead are focused on marketing and pushing heroin.
UNH has been killing it for the last year, so I am not quite sure what you mean by "out-competed". Also, while I am sure you have examples of biotech companies jerking off and pushing heroin, I dispute your claim that the industry as a whole isn't "doing science". PFE spent more than $2 billion on R&D last quarter alone. AMGN was more than $3.5 billion. Contrary to popular believe, the healthcare industry is a lot more than the Martin Shkrelis of the world.

Cheesemaster200 fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Feb 5, 2018

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

Rocks posted:

NVDA down 10% holy poo poo

This is Bitcoin's fault, surely

jvick
Jun 24, 2008

WE ARE
PENN STATE

Rocks posted:

that was so hosed. it's now -850

I've never been through a sell off before. at what point do you just sell everything and mitigate your losses, or is it just HODL forever

Set stop losses at whatever you feel comfortable. I don't think this is necessarily a panic situation.



I watched this happen in real time, it got me pretty scared, not going to lie.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

jvick posted:

Set stop losses at whatever you feel comfortable. I don't think this is necessarily a panic situation.



I watched this happen in real time, it got me pretty scared, not going to lie.



i watched it too.... man that was crazy

joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie

Rocks posted:

i watched it too.... man that was crazy

My heart is still racing.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

jvick posted:

Set stop losses at whatever you feel comfortable.

What happened in the last hour is a perfect example of why stop losses are dangerous. A steep drop and just as steep recovery over the space of an hour kills everyone with a stop loss (and is largely fed by stop losses, if I understand it right) but everyone who recognized that's what was happening and held, avoided making an automated market sell order into that steep drop.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

wow

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Untagged
Mar 29, 2004

Hey, does your planet have wiper fluid yet or you gonna freak out and start worshiping us?
Jim Cramer screaming about how this is all bogus and fake makes it time to sell it all.

Duey
Sep 5, 2004

Hi
Nap Ghost

Untagged posted:

Jim Cramer screaming about how this is all bogus and fake makes it time to sell it all.

He honestly looks like he's going to explode.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

actually was pretty cool seeing Anderson Cooper and Richard Quest (and another CNN analyst) keeping absolutely cool heads while seeing the market tank like that. must've been intense

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

Best quality posts,
freshly delivered

Leperflesh posted:

What happened in the last hour is a perfect example of why stop losses are dangerous. A steep drop and just as steep recovery over the space of an hour kills everyone with a stop loss (and is largely fed by stop losses, if I understand it right) but everyone who recognized that's what was happening and held, avoided making an automated market sell order into that steep drop.

Yes stop losses are genuinely moronic, so moronic in fact that there have been several attempts to make them illegal

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
Why is everything red today?

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
More sellers than buyers!

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
This is nominally* going to end up as the single worst day in the history of the Dow.

*for anyone who doesn't understand percentages.

Pivotal Lever
Sep 9, 2003

Glad I bought some SQQQ and SPXU this morning.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


This lady from Heartland Financial on CNBC has said some of the dumbest stuff I've ever heard

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


"It's short-circuiting the narrative from a week ago"

"the narrative"

I hate everyone

joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie
Is it a crash yet?

edit: at least bit coin is going up

joats fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Feb 5, 2018

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel
Almost to correction territory. I think we will make it there before the week is out.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


At 40 seconds, what is he even talking about? :psyduck:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/960614513224667136

Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Feb 5, 2018

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel
Am I the only one who thinks this is a healthy correction and am planning when to buy back in?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Cheesemaster200 posted:

Am I the only one who thinks this is a healthy correction and am planning when to buy back in?
Corrections are fine but buying back in at a lower level assumes you have money on the side.

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

Josh Lyman posted:

Corrections are fine but buying back in at a lower level assumes you have money on the side.

Good thing I didn't tie up all my cash in Bitcoin.

dougdrums
Feb 25, 2005
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Pivotal Lever
Sep 9, 2003

Cheesemaster200 posted:

Am I the only one who thinks this is a healthy correction and am planning when to buy back in?

Nope, I'm with you.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I haven't made my annual contribution to my IRA yet and I'm pretty pleased that I procrastinated about it (I wanted to do my taxes first) coz I'm gonna get some cheaper shares, yeah

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
Hope you kept some powder dry.

joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie
With TVIX doing what it's doing right now, I wish I had more money that I could invest. I pulled everything out of my investments around the first dip on FEB 1 (bitcoin crash has me spooked) and I was up around 10 percent now I'm up 45%. The bad news is that I only started with 1k. But I'm going to keep trying to turn this money into more money.

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

Best quality posts,
freshly delivered
UVXY at 25.50 AH, unreal

edit: 27.00

I spent months on this trade, and I was literally hosed in an hour (still very profitable, but I missed out on 6 figures of gains here in the space of an hour)

greasyhands fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Feb 5, 2018

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

joats posted:

With TVIX doing what it's doing right now, I wish I had more money that I could invest. I pulled everything out of my investments around the first dip on FEB 1 (bitcoin crash has me spooked) and I was up around 10 percent now I'm up 45%. The bad news is that I only started with 1k. But I'm going to keep trying to turn this money into more money.

You would do significantly better if you took all the time spent fretting about the market and spent it looking for a better job, working OT, etc.

You've got no money, who cares if it's up 69% or down 4.20%

joats
Aug 18, 2007
stupid bewbie

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

You would do significantly better if you took all the time spent fretting about the market and spent it looking for a better job, working OT, etc.

You've got no money, who cares if it's up 69% or down 4.20%

It's fine, I'm fresh out of college and working for a decent firm. This is just to generate the extra income needed to pay off my student loans faster.

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dougdrums
Feb 25, 2005
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joats posted:

With TVIX doing what it's doing right now, I wish I had more money that I could invest. I pulled everything out of my investments around the first dip on FEB 1 (bitcoin crash has me spooked) and I was up around 10 percent now I'm up 45%. The bad news is that I only started with 1k. But I'm going to keep trying to turn this money into more money.

Yeah buying TVIX willy-nilly is gonna bite you unless you're using it to hedge.

Also paying off your student loans is probably the best way to pay them off faster. I mean $500-$1000 over five to ten years isn't exciting but it's guaranteed.

dougdrums fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Feb 5, 2018

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