Chrungka posted:

Couple things I'm not sure about :
Is 550W power supply sufficient or should I rather go with 650W?
Do I get any noticeable benefit from 3200MHz memory, or should I get something cheaper with lower clock rate?

Phlegmish posted:

One final remark, if you are just 'considering' a CPU overclock, that cooler is way overkill and you should drop down to something cheaper. Your current cooler is for when you really want to push your system to its limits.

HMS Boromir posted:

Here's something to look at:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($376.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($59.95 @ Computer Lounge)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($195.00 @ PC Force)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($142.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($252.50 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($759.00 @ PB Technologies)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($178.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($64.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Total: $2026.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-30 19:09 NZST+1200

- You're already pretty much set up for overclocking, so I bumped you up to a 6600K. No reason to leave potential performance on the table.
- This air cooler should do just fine keeping the average 6600K cool up to something like 4.5 GHz. Probably better than that liquid cooler, going by reviews.
- Faster, cheaper RAM. DDR4-3000 is usually our recommended sweet spot but there seems to be a bit of a price jump going any higher than 2666 and it won't make a huge difference.
- A 2.5" rather than M.2 850 EVO to save a bit of money. There's no performance difference, but you can stick with the M.2 if you picked it to reduce cable clutter.

Grog posted:

From a quick comparison of the specs on Newegg:

• On-board DVI-D and VGA on the Z170-A
  
• Supposedly a standard PCI slot on the Z170-A?
  
• 1 SATA Express port on the Z170-A, 2 on the Maximus
  
• Higher usable overclocked memory speed on Maximus (DDR4-3733 vs 3400)
  
• 2 extra rear USB 2.0 ports on the Maximus
  
• ROG extension (?) header on Maximus
  
• Different audio chipsets

And then stuff like aesthetics and a few differences in other on-board headers and things like that.

becoming posted:

I think the heat spreaders on the RAM are gonna bump your CPU cooler. The RAM slots on this mobo (I have one too) are pretty close to the CPU socket. Get shorter RAM or a different cooler.

Edit - digging into this more, it looks like you might be alright. I can't say for certain but Cryorig swears there is no RAM interference there. I am running a Noctua NH-U14S and shorter RAM than you are and you can't slide a piece of paper between the RAM and the fan. Anyway, good luck!

limaCAT posted:

• What country are you in? Italy
  
• What are you using the system for? Elite Dangerous.
  
• What's your budget? Max 2000€
  
• If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? Nope.
  
• If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? I would like to play in 1440p. Being able to run other games is a plus, but not necessary. Being able to do VR (VIVE) in future even if not at max detail would be cool

I would like this system to be better than my current work laptop, which is a 6700-m (sometimes I play E:D there but I don't want to consume it for long, since I'd like to avoid accidents there).

I don't want to overclock the system, and I am not even planning to use more storage on it. I would like to run it cool and avoid killing it off like my old PC which was probably killed by a terrible PSU.

Muffin Rhino posted:

I'm just incredibly impatient and strapped for cash. My reasoning was I could add another 480 on the cheap later.

Am I trying too hard to justify a cheaper purchase now? The 1070 looked appealing, but it breaks my budget.

edit: I should mention that I've never ventured into 2-card territory, so I'm a little out of my depth and need educated.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

What if you got two RX480s and a Freesync monitor instead of a 1070 and paying the GSync tax

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I just bought this at best buy.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-fx-series-16gb-memory-2tb-hard-drive-black-blue/4592900.p?id=1219775848732

I wasn't really looking to buy a new machine but I saw this at the store for WAY cheaper than it should have been. Somebody had it mislabeled with the price of a lesser model. They honored the price on the tag and I walked away with it for about $500 after taxes.

Did I get a bargain? It runs WoW and Tf2 really well but I was wondering what it's weak spots are and if theres any cheapish things I can get that would improve it drastically.

Khablam posted:

You have more ram than you'll need at a slightly sub optimal speed. 16Gb of 3000-3200 will out-perform what you have listed.

Samsung SSDs are considered the best. Specifically their 850 evo line.
Windows 10 might transfer. You can reportedly also still do the upgrade from a 7/8 key.

VelociBacon posted:

If it really has a SuperMulti DVD/CD burner and 6 USB ports as advertised I'd say you got a pretty amazing deal.

VelociBacon posted:

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

HMS Boromir posted:

I'm not sure where the sarcasm begins and ends anymore but here's a genuine response:

You got a bargain in as much as you didn't overpay for the parts much, which is what usually happens with prebuilts. Said parts are pretty dire though, particularly the graphics card. Since you were in the market for $500 prebuilts I'm guessing you're not looking to max out settings or anything, so I'd recommend this GTX 950 ($110 after rebate) to replace it if you want an upgrade. It's probably close to three times better. This particular model runs on PCIe slot power exclusively, so the undoubtedly godawful PSU they put in that thing shouldn't pose a problem.

For non-gaming performance you really want to add an SSD (~$90 for 250GB) as soon as you can afford it, it makes everything blazing fast if you install Windows and your applications on it. Helps with load times in games, too.

Really though, if you have the option to return it, you could put together something with a way better CPU and otherwise similar specs (SSD, 2TB HDD GTX 950, 16GB RAM) for less money than it would have cost you to upgrade that prebuilt.

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I just bought this at best buy.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-fx-series-16gb-memory-2tb-hard-drive-black-blue/4592900.p?id=1219775848732

I wasn't really looking to buy a new machine but I saw this at the store for WAY cheaper than it should have been. Somebody had it mislabeled with the price of a lesser model. They honored the price on the tag and I walked away with it for about $500 after taxes.

Did I get a bargain? It runs WoW and Tf2 really well but I was wondering what it's weak spots are and if theres any cheapish things I can get that would improve it drastically.

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

One quick question though. Being fairly ignorant, what makes the processor you chose better than the AMD I have? My thinking = more cores is better. Just looking for the quickest, simplest answer to help me not be so dumb.

blowfish posted:

You're the perfect candidate for getting an overclockable system even if you're not going to overclock it soon or at all: you're buying a cooler anyway. The i7-6700k has a higher base clock than 6700 so it's faster even without overclocking. Z170 motherboards support faster RAM that matters in high end gaming i.e. VR (note you have to set ram speed in the BIOS/UEFI even when you buy faster ram), so get one together with DDR4-3000 or 3200, though you don't really need 32GB just for gaming so feel free to drop down to 16.

HMS Boromir posted:

Single-threaded performance. Some applications (like most games) involve a lot of calculations that need to be done in sequence, so you can't split them up over multiple cores. Outside of things that scale very well with core count like video encoding, you get better performance out of fewer, stronger cores. AMD bet on lots of weak cores with their FX series and has been paying the price in performance ever since.

For example, here's an old benchmark for World of Warcraft. Even the Pentium G620, a $64 dual core that's over a year older, beats the FX-8320 while drawing a fraction of the power.

Chrungka posted:

Any suggestion here? Something I'd like to go with: Intake on front, outtake on back, none on top (it's a desk thing), positive pressure, CPU cooler must fit into case, and silent if possible

limaCAT posted:

Thanks man, just a few questions.

First: what is the best solution for WiFi? Connect it to an access point, internal card? Can you suggest some good current WiFi card just in case?
Second: the CPU comes with integrated graphics. I can use that while building the system to see that the BIOS posts, right? After I put the Nvidia card is there something I have to do to see the BIOS with it or is it automatic?
Third: usually components come with their own set of screws, what kind of screwdrivers do I need?

limaCAT posted:

Thanks man, just a few questions.

First: what is the best solution for WiFi? Connect it to an access point, internal card? Can you suggest some good current WiFi card just in case?

greatZebu posted:

I'm in the US, looking to build a workstation for software development and machine learning work. I'm mostly looking to put something together that will be very stable, looks inconspicuous, and won't sound like a jet turbine under load. It'll be running linux. I put this list together based on lists from pcpartpicker, but I don't know that much about current consumer hardware so I would appreciate suggestions and advice:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($157.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($156.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($704.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($105.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1605.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-31 04:39 EDT-0400

Am I doing anything dumb or missing anything important?

greatZebu posted:

I'm in the US, looking to build a workstation for software development and machine learning work. I'm mostly looking to put something together that will be very stable, looks inconspicuous, and won't sound like a jet turbine under load. It'll be running linux. I put this list together based on lists from pcpartpicker, but I don't know that much about current consumer hardware so I would appreciate suggestions and advice:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($157.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($156.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($704.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($105.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1605.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-31 04:39 EDT-0400

Am I doing anything dumb or missing anything important?

Phlegmish posted:

Yeah, I don't know how important hyperthreading would be in his case, but an i7 Skylake is something to consider.

Felix_Cat posted:

For a home pc that just needs to be able to use the internet, play solitaire, and that's about it, is there much difference between prebuilt and custom, and what generation of cpu would I be looking at?

kingcobweb posted:

Buying a discrete sound card because I'm a huge music nerd
Any other feedback welcome~

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I'm getting really close on a Mini-ITX build (gaming and light video work, non-streaming). I'm at the point where I just keep tweaking part choices so I think I should just pull the trigger soon.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($228.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($57.94 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($88.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($156.46 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($439.00 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Tower Case ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1339.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-31 17:38 EDT-0400

Notes:

• This thread has convinced me to do the overclocking thing. I picked that custom cooler because it looked neat and should fit in the Core V1 with no issues? I don't really know much about it.
  
• I'm aiming for 1440p 144Hz gaming in the long run. I'm thinking about waiting until after Black Friday to see if there will be a deal on a GSync monitor, or decide to settle for non-sync. In the meantime I will enjoy overkilling 1080p@60
  
• I'm also thinking about reselling the video card in a couple years to extend the life of the system, and I heard EVGA's warranty policies are the best for that?
  
• I am really hoping to get away from having an internal platter HD. I think 500GB should be enough for OS + Google Drive + games? I have some external USB drives for media.
  
• Someone posted a PlayAsia link for cheap Windows 10, if that is legit I would like to save some money on that.
  
• Any extra tidbits I would need to make the build process cleaner and smoother? I saw some build logs where they got custom short power cables but I don't know if that would be really worth it.