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MrSlug posted:p good read. got this in pdf as part of that ebook torrent. still haven't opened it but i'll put it at the top of my list for if i ever finish let there be range.
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Spasms posted:got this in pdf as part of that ebook torrent. still haven't opened it but i'll put it at the top of my list for if i ever finish let there be range. Just read it instead. LTBR is already like 3 years old.
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Sotar posted:So what does everyone think of the 6-max book by Harrington. Is it worth it to get that for cash games? Any thoughts on this besides "pretty good"? I play 6-max NL almost exclusively. I haven't played much poker at all in the past year or two. I'm looking to start playing again now that I have the time. I have some books from 2+ years ago, but I could use some advice on which would be the most useful for returning to play 6-max NL. Which 6-max books would be the most helpful? I don't know much about them tbh. edit: Should have gone back further in the thread. Sounds like Ed Miller's SSNLHE actually has a lot to do with 6-max and would be a great book for me. I also decided to check out Harrington's 6-Max book. 
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Oct 16, 2010 19:12
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so my focus recently has turned more from cash games to SnG's online, and I'm looking at expanding my live play time as well - any recommendations? As yet I haven't really read anything on SnG's and I got I should take a look into Moshman and get SnG Wiz, but anything else I should take a look into? My biggest deficiency seems to come on bubble play, and more when I'm middle of the pack in terms of chipstack - I've recognized that I pucker up my rear end and wait for something to get me into the money and I know I should be thinking about winning, not just getting over that hump, but I have a hard time putting people on ranges and end up bleeding for a bit, and then struggling. Also, anything good to read in terms of the psychology of poker and improving reading ability? I watch quite a bit of poker and try to work on my range calling based on their betting patterns and position, but anything I should look at reading that'll help me build a stronger base and improve my ability to read?
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Oct 27, 2010 17:10
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As far as anything else besides Moshman's book and SNGWiz for SNG's, I would watch videos on Cardrunners by faarcyde, braminc, and sippin_criss.
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Poop Faerie posted:so my focus recently has turned more from cash games to SnG's online, and I'm looking at expanding my live play time as well - any recommendations? As yet I haven't really read anything on SnG's and I got I should take a look into Moshman and get SnG Wiz, but anything else I should take a look into? My biggest deficiency seems to come on bubble play, and more when I'm middle of the pack in terms of chipstack - I've recognized that I pucker up my rear end and wait for something to get me into the money and I know I should be thinking about winning, not just getting over that hump, but I have a hard time putting people on ranges and end up bleeding for a bit, and then struggling. Keep in mind that the way you're talking you are trying to learn two very different poker games at once. To improve your bubble play in SnG, SnGWiz review/understanding of ICM/developing shoving ranges will greatly increase your ROI. For playing live, you want to develop a solid ABC poker cash game, at least for 1/2, which requires more postflop skill, different preflop raising ranges, hand-reading of opponents, etc. SnGs you will probably want to multitable and there is very little postflop skill/hand reading required. In terms of reading peoples' shoving ranges on the bubble, most players at the low stakes shove too tight, so you will mostly be calling with your premium hands and folding everything else (of course depending on stack size and position, and SnGWiz will help you with this). It's more important to develop shoving ranges than calling ranges at low stakes anyway, but SnGWiz will help you get a handle on both. Btw watching high stakes poker on TV, if that's what you meant, is not a good way to develop hand reading skill (except for maybe the director's cut episodes of Poker After Dark where players talk about thought processes, but still these are usually too advanced for a beginner). During your play or while you are reviewing hands after a session, don't put an opponent on a single hand - based on how generally tight/loose he is, assign him a range of hands that make sense with his actions so far, and decide what action is best with the range of hands you represent. If you want practice with this come to #smallstakes and post hands. Also keep in mind that in tournaments, the stack sizes are going to change how you consider someone's range. If you want recommendations on other things to read, I like No Limit Hold'em: Theory and Practice (Miller/Sklansky), Small Stakes No Limit Hold'em (which will be more advanced and difficult to apply to the very low stakes, but contains some good information) (Miller/Mehta), and the free Ryan Fee's 6max guide online.
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I'm just starting back up after taking a few months off, got back into #smallstakes last night and hung around for a bit. I know they're two different games, and honestly my focus right now is more on the SnG's than on anything else - I don't get to a casino much, there really aren't any good poker rooms near me so it's more of an overall rounding out my experience for when I do get the opportunity to go. I'm not talking about watching high stakes on TV (though I do enjoy watching). It of course doesn't mean a ton, but I've been following some of the goons and generally watching some more mid-stakes games online for things going to showdown. Doesn't give me much, but I'm trying to figure out a way to improve my ability to read besides only playing myself to showdown (when I want to - I'm not always calling down to get intel on an opponent) and seeing what someone has. Thanks for the pointer on focusing more on shoving ranges for me rather than calling ranges. My bankroll is growing steadily (up to $700 again - I keep cashing out when I get close to $1k but not planning on that this time). I'll pick up SnGWiz tonight and see what I can do with it. I got Small Stakes No Limit Holdem and while I got some from it, at least for my first pass I felt like I missed a fuckton from it. I'll be going back through of course. thanks for the other recs.
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Oct 27, 2010 17:59
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#1 and #2 tips for SnGWiz: Quiz mode is garbage, and manually set your opponents' ranges when you're going through a game, as the default ranges are usually not great (and you may need to make additional adjustments based on how tight/loose you remember your opponents being).
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Oct 27, 2010 20:28
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Has anyone read "No Limits: The Fundamentals of No-Limit Holdem" featured in the 2+2 store? It is a newer book and I haven't really heard much about it aside from some random poorly written/infomercial type reviews found on google. link: http://www.professionalpoker.com/IP.php?type=Category&ID=1&productID=462
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Jan 26, 2011 00:42
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To the goon(s) that suggested Phil Gordon's Little Green book, and Harrington on Cash Games I and II, Thank You! These books are money in the bank.
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Jan 27, 2011 01:46
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Has anyone read How to Win at Online Poker? I saw PKR giving them away and it sounds like a hilarious, awful poker guide from the title.
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Feb 21, 2011 05:47
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Started to read that new Dusty Schmidt book (don't listen to Phil Hellmuth or whatever it's called) and it actually has some interesting stuff in it. Nothing too revolutionary yet though.
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Feb 21, 2011 10:06
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I really liked GSiHE by Ed Miller as an introductory book, especially if you aren't familiar with pot odds, counting outs and other proper poker concepts. Just a good warm up to SSHE, really.
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Mar 24, 2011 22:25
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Kill Everyone upped my tournament game 3000 percent. Strongly rec'd.
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Apr 9, 2011 22:50
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Harrington on Online Cash Games was a good read. Nothing groundbreaking to anyone who's watched videos or read other online resources but it goes through and adequately covers ranges and range distribution, interpreting hud stats into hand reading and exploiting, table selection, dealing with the advanced 3- and 4-betting and postflop aggression as you move into NL50-100, etc. The original Harrington on Cash is more thorough in a theoretical sense, and this is a good supplement with a specific focus on and examples from 6max online.
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Apr 11, 2011 19:12
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Is Moshman still the bible of SnG play?
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So, I'm debating actually devoting some time to learning PLO-- preferably PLO/8, as they spread 1/2 and 2/5 games on occasion that get absolutely crazy action, and generally feature the most notorious whale in the room. He only plays NLHE if there's no Omaha open. So yeah. I've never, ever liked the game-- O/8 I'm okay with, but I hate hi-- but I'm thinking it's time to learn. Practically every good player I know up there will instantly jump to Omaha when the aforementioned whale is around because he always spews thousands at any given table, and they usually end up with a couple racks of chips by the time the game breaks up. All you Omaha players out there, what books do you suggest? And if you're a former NLHE guy who is now an Omaha convert, what books did you find helped the most for your transition? (I figure these may not necessarily be the same thing.)
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AmnesiaLab posted:All you Omaha players out there, what books do you suggest? And if you're a former NLHE guy who is now an Omaha convert, what books did you find helped the most for your transition? (I figure these may not necessarily be the same thing.) Deucescracked has a PLO series co-hosted by Phil Galfond and whitelime. I'd say check that out and other videos before turning to books for PLO.
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ragle posted:Deucescracked has a PLO series co-hosted by Phil Galfond and whitelime. I'd say check that out and other videos before turning to books for PLO. I'll second this. Vanessa Selbst's 2x6 series really gives you a solid grounding for Omaha, and I can't remember the name right now but it has the word 'nuts' in it is a great series on Omaha/8, as is 'Make the Jack a 4'. In terms of books, Jeff Hwang's Omaha Big Play Strategy and Ray Zee's book on split pot games should get you started just fine.
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Righto. I've read Ray Zee's split pot games book (used to play a lot of stud/8) but it's been for ever. I think I let someone borrow it and never got it back, though. Time to start digging! I'll hit up deucescracked for the videos.
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I got into poker a few years ago and deposited $50 I eventually worked up to 500 on cake playing .25/.50 and 1/2 FR limit. Then I ended up moving to full tilt and having that whittled away to like 250 before I lost interest. Anyway I want to get back into playing but I want to play MTTs and SNGs mainly. I don't want to play online, I've lived in Brigantine all my life and I can see the Borgata from my house so I want to give that a shot. I've been reading through this thread and I've been trying to figure out what the best route would be, what book to read in what order ect. Anyone have any suggestions? So far I've figured: Little Green Book : Lessons and Teachings in No Limit Texas Hold'em Harrington on Hold'em Volume 1 Harrington on Hold'em Volume 2 Sit 'N Go Strategy Expert Advice for Beating One-Table Poker Tournaments Kill Everyone ??? I want to read every relevant good book about live tournament strategy.
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Scratch that, I really don't like the SNG structures in AC. I'll stick to limit. So I am going to re-read SSHE, then what should I follow that up with? And in what order?
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So, I used to play pretty seriously a few years back, and would like to start playing live NLHE MTTs a little more often now that I have more free time and cash. I'm competent enough now that I figure I have an edge over the average small-stakes MTT (I do play them from time to time), but would like to refresh my game and make myself as good a player as possible before I start playing with more frequency. What books/other stuff is considered mandatory reading these days?
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OrangeKing posted:So, I used to play pretty seriously a few years back, and would like to start playing live NLHE MTTs a little more often now that I have more free time and cash. I'm competent enough now that I figure I have an edge over the average small-stakes MTT (I do play them from time to time), but would like to refresh my game and make myself as good a player as possible before I start playing with more frequency. What books/other stuff is considered mandatory reading these days? can't go wrong with "Kill Everyone" for live MTTs
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Can anyone recommend any of the audiobooks that are availabe? The ones that turn up via Google I haven't heard of (seems none of the 2+2 books are available). I'd be able to listen to them at work so it would be ideal, but as poker audiobooks are probably a bit niche I wouldn't know if any decent ones even exist.
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MassRayPer posted:Is Moshman still the bible of SnG play? "professional no limit hold 'em vol. 1" changed my life and how i think about the game completely.
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Does Moshman's book focus only on NLHE, or are there things a (primarily) NLO8 SNG player could benefit from?
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I'm also just starting to read Moshman's book, does anyone want to highlight some of the "semi-bad advice" or share any other criticisms I should keep in mind while reading it?
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Moshman's book turned me from a slightly positive ev player into crushing any local sit and go. Just finished "let there be range" on nlhe, worth a read. It is relatively short and mainly has small sections that are fine nuggets of wisdom. Although I will say that the version I got had a lot of typos and other editing problems. If you get through that though the info is worth the effort.
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BRB MAKIN BACON posted:Moshman's book turned me from a slightly positive ev player into crushing any local sit and go. Yea? That $1k book is worth the effort huh?? Worth a read is it??
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:Yea? That $1k book is worth the effort huh?? Worth a read is it?? Clearly it isn't, it appears to be plagued by typos and other editing problems.
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Has anyone read http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/how-to-read-hands-at-no-limit-holdem ?
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Yeah, it's pretty good I think, I like all of Ed Miller's stuff pretty much
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So I've been playing some casual poker games as well as online semi-frequently at Cake and was looking to get one or two books to improve my game so I could maybe not lose all my gambling money when I go to Vegas next year. I've decided to get Phil Gordon's Green Book and think I would like to get one of the Harrington books. Went looking on Amazon/itt at the Harrington books for sale and am totally unsure of which one is appropriate for someone with very little poker experience; which one do you guys recommend?
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Valithan posted:So I've been playing some casual poker games as well as online semi-frequently at Cake and was looking to get one or two books to improve my game so I could maybe not lose all my gambling money when I go to Vegas next year. I've decided to get Phil Gordon's Green Book and think I would like to get one of the Harrington books. Went looking on Amazon/itt at the Harrington books for sale and am totally unsure of which one is appropriate for someone with very little poker experience; which one do you guys recommend? Harrington on Cash Value One. I would recommend Professional No Limit Hold'Em and No Limit Hold'Em: Theory and Practice over HoC and LGB though.
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Ranma posted:Harrington on Cash Value One. I would recommend Professional No Limit Hold'Em and No Limit Hold'Em: Theory and Practice over HoC and LGB though. Alright cool, I'll pick up Cash Value. I grabbed Phil Gordon's LGB off ebay for about $5, I'll look for those ones as well.
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Valithan posted:Alright cool, I'll pick up Cash Value. I grabbed Phil Gordon's LGB off ebay for about $5, I'll look for those ones as well. I can't type, it is Volume 1  for $5 LGB is not bad, it used to be my go to recommendation for new players.
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I ordered the poker blueprint about a month ago and I gotta say its pretty drat good. And for 7 dollars for the kindle version you can't really go wrong. I also just finished volumes 1 and 2 of an older edition of "Easy Game" by Andrew "Beluga Whale" Seidman. Its pretty awesome and probably worth the 50 dollars for this qoute alone. "There are few things in life that the good, full-stacked grinder hates more than playing against a professional 20BB short stack. They seem to be everywhere these days, taking a bite out of your stack and quickly disappearing from whence they came, like a back-alley thief that inexplicably opts to mug you for 20% of your wallet." I'm trying not to go back and start rereading it tell the newest edition comes in the mail. But this is one book where the vast majority of the stuff written I hadn't heard of, or thought before. So I had to come here to rec'mend it to ya'll.
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Does anyone know of anything that would be particularly suited for someone who's just starting out? That is, I have a general grasp of how poker is played and a decent understanding of probability mathematics, but no significant knowledge of actual strategy or the terms used to describe it. I've been mainly thinking about ordering "Illustrated Guide To Texas Hold'em", "Phil Gordon's Little Green Book, and "Small Stakes Hold 'em". Is there anything else I should look into?
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MassRayPer posted:Has anyone read How to Win at Online Poker? I saw PKR giving them away and it sounds like a hilarious, awful poker guide from the title. Year-old question but I actually have read this and yes, it's pretty bad. Standard TAG stuff, no complexity whatsoever. Very nicely produced though, almost like a magazine.
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