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E_P
Feb 22, 2003



Mighty Agrippa posted:

For those wanting to see the FUUU~ for themselves, http://www.youtube.com/w/Haado-Gei-...y?v=6b7gQQIwcng
I had to watch almost every video of him before I picked up on the hilarious japanese homosexual accent.

Sort of on topic, here is another video of him;
http://www.youtube.com/?v=e7SQtFTobX0
But what I want to focus on is the announcer in the first 15 seconds, notice how he speaks japanese and then breaks into perfect english, I am a little amazed.

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JerryRudd
Apr 17, 2002

Power of the Pornstache


Evil_Penguin posted:

I had to watch almost every video of him before I picked up on the hilarious japanese homosexual accent.

Sort of on topic, here is another video of him;
http://www.youtube.com/?v=e7SQtFTobX0
But what I want to focus on is the announcer in the first 15 seconds, notice how he speaks japanese and then breaks into perfect english, I am a little amazed.

It's like I don't really have any idea why it's funny, but I feel the need to laugh at these. The part where the woman is buying the CD and like five of them jump up from the counter had me rolling.

Holland Oats
Oct 20, 2003

Only the dead have seen the end of war

Lone Goat posted:

Can anyone explain to me what the hell I just witnessed?

You just watched Razor Ramon HG and his Hard Gay Dancers.

Who Gotch Ya
Jun 27, 2003

streetdoctors.com
Yes, we are hybrid rappers.


MassRayPer posted:

I've wondered about this for awhile and have never really found an answer. What in the hell was the logic behind the electrified barbed wire match that was held.. in the rainforest? Both business wise and storyline wise I just have never been able to wrap my mind around that one. It would've made sense if it were an extreme attempt at avoiding run ins, but there were run ins... and then there's the question of why a company thinks a rain forest match is going to be a big fan favorite.

Oh my god that match was horrible

The audio sounded overdubbed or something or maybe it was just the environment screwing with the sound.

Maybe it's my memory being screwed up but I remember it being in a desert or some plains or something. I hope there weren't TWO Onita/Singh lovely deathmatches in nature settings.

I actually have this on tape

Edit: I blame the shittiness entirely on Singh 'cause Onita was always one of my favorites.

Who Gotch Ya fucked around with this message at Jan 13, 2006 around 17:13

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Random Overlooked Puro #2

I just watched a really dandy deathmatch that would take anyone's mind away from Tiger Jeet Singh.

Peeps ITT probably know of a mister Necro Butcher. He of the utter craziness and taking of beatings. Well, I don't think he's the best deathmatch guy out there today. No, that title rightfully belongs to someone who you'd never expect: a gimmick imitator.

http://www.wkmedia.net/jhw4/sourcepictures/Heavy3%20copy.jpg

The man getting carved up is Abdullah Jr. Kobayashi, a Japanese Abdullah the Butcher. Only instead of 1/2* matches involving a fork, it's much better matches involving dozens of light tubes and full-body bleeding from said tubes. Working out of Big Japan, Abby Jr has been in three of my favorite deathmatches ever.

The first was from December '03 against Ryuji Ito (the carver in the pic above), a 200 Light Tube deathmatch that managed to use logical build and solid pacing to keep the momentum going from spot to spot. And oh lord when it's 200 light tubes you know it's gonna be a lot of sick spots. They take what would be a pretty decent match and toss in light tubes to add to the moves, leading to some great nearfalls and dramatic set-ups.

Then came a match in November '05 against Daisuke Sekimoto, a thick motherfucker who's strong as hell. A mere 100 light tubes for this one. Sekimoto methodically worked Abby Jr over with the tubes, including repeated bodyslams onto them. Then came the stiff as five motherfuckers clubbing blows to the back and I swear you will mark out for *clubbing blows to the back in a deathmatch*. Then he starts unloading his set of traditional Japanese finishers on a horribly bloody Kobayashi, who refuses to stay down. Kobayashi makes the comeback and while Sekimoto doesn't take much punishment relative to the fat boy he still takes a ton.

Final match, which I just watched, is a December 21 '05 rematch of Kobayashi vs Ito. This was a (100? 200?) light tube scaffold deathmatch, where a shockingly sturdy brudge was made high above the ring between two big ladders. Combining the kind of spots seen in their first match with a couple monster bumps off the scaffold, they were able to play off of both of the above bouts and the finish has some stellar nearfalls. This match got a crowd bigger than any Zero-One drew that year, 3500.

It's hard to describe what he brings to the table. There's a certain Sabu-esque 'gently caress it' attitude, there's his willingness to get covered in viscera (the actual word not the black man), there's the sense that he has some idea where things are going. Abby Kobayashi is well worth checking out if you can stomach some of the craziest deathmatches ever.

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

It's going to happen this year; it's what we're going to do. We're going to win the NL Central.

Pillbug

Welp, now I'm going to have to go home and try to find my tape with the Honma-Yamakawa matches from '99-'00 on them. And probably find a source for these matches as well. Thanks Ditch

Coffey
Sep 9, 2003

by T. Finn


Ditch, can you take a picture request? I've been trying to find a good picture of Satoshi Kojima to use as my desktop wallpaper for awhile now. Action shot, pose, whatever. I've used Google image search and not been happy with what turned out.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Some Koji pics can be found here: http://archives.somethingawful.com/...hreadid=1464220

NEWS!

Akebono has been added to the latest NOAH card, as he and Rikio take on Kobashi and Izumida. IZU~

WWE and Lesnar continue to dish it out, this time over a planned apperance on New Japan's 2/19 Sumo Hall show. I think this could at long last be the climax because the judge has adopted a 'bring it on' attitude towards WWE and they have plenty of time to make the best case possible (unlike when they tried to Brock-block before the 1/4 show).

Several New Japan wrestlers are unhappy with their latest contract offers but it's possible none of them would get better money elsewhere. Kakihara might have to retire with a neck injury.

Rodney the Piper
Sep 19, 2005

family sticks together


Is Tanahashi any good? I've honestly never heard of the guy before TNA decided to bring him in for Sunday.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Tanahashi has talent but in most cases needs to be carried. I'd honestly say the same thing about Styles because I'm not a fan of spotfests, but in AJ's case at least he has said spotfests. When Tanahashi has an off night he's very bland because his offense isn't particularly great.

I would not expect much for Styles vs Tanahashi.

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005



Fun Shoe

Ditch posted:

Tanahashi has talent but in most cases needs to be carried. I'd honestly say the same thing about Styles because I'm not a fan of spotfests, but in AJ's case at least he has said spotfests. When Tanahashi has an off night he's very bland because his offense isn't particularly great.

I would not expect much for Styles vs Tanahashi.



No pun intended, but there will be a styles clash. TNA is laughably billing Tanahashi as a high flyer.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Well he does a missile dropkick and a flying forearm and a suicide dive. That's just a step away from corkscrew moonsaults and standing twisting shooting star presses and no-touch tope con hilo hurricanranas!

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

Captain Charisma posted:

No pun intended, but there will be a styles clash. TNA is laughably billing Tanahashi as a high flyer.

American audiences won't notice.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

SBA sez that Japanese wrestling files via. free hosting services is kosher. So here goes!

Yousendit links go down after 7 days/1 GB, whichever comes first. Any that I'm posting could drop at any time. Rapidshare is a much better option for any of you who want to share goodness from links I've sent (hinthint) because the file lasts 14 days after the last download, no transfer limit. But you can only download one file an hour.

http://rapidshare.de/files/9998157/..._Event.wmv.html
- 8-man Japanese Indy tag, bunch o' guys you've never heard of. Guy who wins is named Iifushi Kota and he rules. Behold his utterly insane German suplex bridge near the end.

http://rapidshare.de/files/10354354...ikuchi.wmv.html
- Liger & Minoru Tanaka vs Kikuchi & Kanemaru, New Japan 8/29/02. New Japan vs NOAH featuring a ton of hate and great action.

http://rapidshare.de/files/5585439/...._Taue.WMV.html
-Kobashi vs Taue, NOAH 9/10/04. Taue goes all-out in his attempt to bring down Kobashi. Kobashi is Kobashi. One of my faves of '04.

http://rapidshare.de/files/10498605...akamura.rm.html
-Nakamura vs Yoshie, New Japan G-1 Climax, 8/11/03. Phat mat skillz vs just regular fat.

http://rapidshare.de/files/10498746...shimura.rm.html
-Tanahashi vs Nishimura, New Japan 8/15/03. Solid technical match.

http://rapidshare.de/files/10696406..._yoshie.rm.html
-Nagata vs Yoshie, New Japan 8/10/03. Fun heavyweight match that might be the best in Yoshie's career. Some big ol' bumps and stiffness and a lot of nifty fat-man moves.

xhttp://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BYHG817P1SH43NA4PXUPS5VU6
-American Dragon vs Tiger Mask 4, New Japan 2/1/04. AmDrag shows how good he is by carrying TM4 in a good, compact undercard match.

xhttp://s15.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17RK2DO9SO1WC0G0FPVJLZPHYP
-Liger vs Benoit, New Japan 8/12/92

xhttp://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=36RK3QJN54EOQ1NVP9WV6NC4U3
-AJ Styles vs Low Ki, Zero-One 1/3/03

xhttp://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UTBXTF7WSZSK3PRBESXRPR3C1
-Low Ki vs Kanemaru, NOAH 9/10/04. Ki makes with the psychology!

xhttp://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2I8QFPCI29MC50AT1Q1TT07469
-Alex Shelley vs Ikuto Hidaka, Zero-One '05. Tricked-out lucha/technical match.

xhttp://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2J8TORMVWBPK7344HF53R2UJQN
-Ito vs Abby Jr Kobayashi, Scaffold & Light Tubes Deathmatch, Big Japan 12/05. I described this a few posts back.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=026F1S3A
-Jumbo Tsuruta vs Terry Funk, 6/76. It's thirty years old but it loving RULES.

http://rapidshare.de/files/10220021...19-93_.avi.html
-Kawada & Kobashi vs Stan Hansen & RVD, All Japan 2/19/93. Your eyes do not deceive you.

http://rapidshare.de/files/10589817...himoto.wmv.html
-Kawada vs Hashimoto, 2/04. Hashimoto's last big match and last great performance. HE, not Kawada, makes this a good match.

OlympicHero
Aug 18, 2005
Cheer up!

Thanks for uploading all those, seen a couple of them before, Low-Ki vs Kanemaru I remember was pretty good.

Going to check out that All Japan tag match and the Big Japan deathmatch.

Russ
Dec 17, 2005

Chimping around, kick my brains round the floor
These are the days - it never rains but it pours


I'd recommend getting the YouSendIt downloader for using with these files. I don't know if it's just me, but more often than not I get an error when I try to download a file normally from YouSendIt. That problem stopped once I started using the YSI Downloader, so it's worth having if you encounter the same problem as I do.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

http://rapidshare.de/files/10623272...ask_II.wmv.html
-Jumbo Tsuruta vs Tiger Mask Misawa, All Japan '88. Dandy.

http://d.turboupload.com/d/278429/A...mpions.wmv.html
-Kobashi vs Takao Omori, Champions Carnival 2000 Final. Omori tries to front with his cheesy-assed axe bomber but Kobashi's all

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

New Japan is SLASHING the money it's paying wrestlers, after pay cuts already happened two years ago. The roster is also being trimmed. Some guys are gone, some are probably gone, some will go to part-time. All of this needed to happen years ago, but at this point they're the :gm: of puro.

Simon Inoki staged some sort of takeover of Inoki Office, and the extent to which that's real or not and the extent to which Inoki Office was substantive has yet to be revealed. Simon also gave an interview where he seemed to say that NJ has no chance of growing in Japan and that the focus needs to be overseas. lol good 1

xhttp://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37Z1AO5ODX0VJ3LAO310DHESJX - Misawa vs Akiyama, All Japan 2/00

xhttp://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=29I4ZCXQ2E79V26BZC2HMSCP5V - Misawa vs Akiyama, NOAH 7/01

xhttp://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2O84UWH0KE8JW1KVYX1ROLM3EV - Kobashi vs Akiyama, 8/00

xhttp://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HA777QXJHE3G1REL5NH0BU1IU - Misawa & Yone vs Kobashi & Go Shiozaki. Behold the AWESOMENESS that is Go Shiozaki.

xhttp://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13Q1L1R61ZHT43C427MEOPCCNO - Kawada vs Akiyama, Champions Carnival '95. The sorta match that only gets done justice in Japan.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/articles/45979
New Japan! Slashes contracts! Yoshie! And other New Japan wrestlers are gone! Akebono! Is in NOAH and that could lead to good things! DITCH! Applies his economics degree to analyze Japanese pro wrestling because he can't use it in a paying job! YOU~! Want to read this!

HwoodNG
May 4, 2004

Highly Respected SAS Wrestling Poster

Ditch posted:

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/articles/45979
New Japan! Slashes contracts! Yoshie! And other New Japan wrestlers are gone! Akebono! Is in NOAH and that could lead to good things! DITCH! Applies his economics degree to analyze Japanese pro wrestling because he can't use it in a paying job! YOU~! Want to read this!

A good read as usual.

You mentioned loyalty being a big deal in puro. Do you think that the amount of griping, hold outs and departures have as much to do with new owners as it does the financial slashing?

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

It's all about the Yenjamins. Maybe Yukes is the driving force behind the cuts, but those cuts are real. They aren't going to pay jack poo poo to a Tatsutoshi Goto because nobody else would either, ditto guys like Nagao and Wataru and Sammy and Takemura, and I think Yoshie figures he can make enough freelancing to be worth it. NJ is cutting the pay for anyone they possibly can.

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005



Fun Shoe

Hahaha New Japan is hosed.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

In terms of being good in-ring compared to where they were in '02-'04, yes, hosed. In terms of selling 10,000 tickets more than once or twice this year, yes. As far as surviving as a promotion, no, lordy lord no, they've got a long way to fall before it's that bad.

Holland Oats
Oct 20, 2003

Only the dead have seen the end of war

Hey Ditch, the Low Ki matches and the Alex Shelley match are expired. Could you upload it to rapidshare?

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

I just link 'em, don't have time for rapidshare. But I hope that there are other goons willing to help out

edit: I had to edit my column to note that some New Japan guys who I thought were signed aren't. It's even worse than I said!

Ditch fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2006 around 14:43

Rodney the Piper
Sep 19, 2005

family sticks together


What are the best resources to use for following present day puro?

Are Japanese workers inherently more talented than American workers? It seems like some hardcore puro fans act as if anyone overseas is the perfect offspring of Benoit and Angle, but guys like A-Train - who was pretty much poo poo on when he was in the E - are able to be gainfully employed in the bigger name promotions. What gives?

Who were the ten best puro workers in 2005?

kaosAG
Oct 14, 2005


From what I've gathered, it seems as if the Japanese just go nuts over big american guys, be they capable workers or not.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

coagulate posted:

What are the best resources to use for following present day puro?

Are Japanese workers inherently more talented than American workers? It seems like some hardcore puro fans act as if anyone overseas is the perfect offspring of Benoit and Angle, but guys like A-Train - who was pretty much poo poo on when he was in the E - are able to be gainfully employed in the bigger name promotions. What gives?

Who were the ten best puro workers in 2005?
Way to take a lot of things out of context.

Puro is an inherently different style, as is lucha. Most people who watch a lot of wrestling from a lot of places tend to view puro as better hour-for-hour than WWE because it's a lot more wrestling-based and much less restricted.

Now that's not to say that ALL puro is awesome. Most people focus on the GOOD puro, and at times that puro is filtered down. For instance I'm someone who watches everything, but I then only pimp specific things because plenty of it is boring or hard to enjoy for most.

There have been plenty of crappy wrestlers in Japan, be they Japanese or American. Albert was hardly the worst big-man in US history, I always enjoyed him more than the Heidenreichs and Masters of the world and he does even better in Japan. But he's still nothing worth going out of the way for. As kaos said he has a job because big American guys are the exception rather than the norm, and Albert is pretty much the biggest guy around in Japan (no Big Show over there). Plus he's fairly cheap so he has a job. But the Japanese don't go nuts for him.

Me rattling off names wouldn't mean anything. I might enjoy the work of KENTA and Go Shiozaki and Makoto Hashi and Kensuke Sasaki and the Florida Brothers, you might not. Which is why I tend to recommend certain shows from certain promotions. For instance...

-New Japan's 2004 G-1 Climax tournament. Solid matches in the Japanese style that tell stories based on each wrestler's style. Shows off some of the variety you don't get in a rather cookie-cutter fed like WWE.
-NOAH's July '04 and July '05 Tokyo Dome shows. Good variety, good matches by pretty much everyone's estimation.
-Dragon Gate 1/14/05. A very easy to enjoy fed, and this show combines storylines with some dynamite action.
-All Japan 7/26/05. I haven't seen all of it but I'm told this was their show of the year. Some big matches and a good look at what they can bring to the table.

That's just present-day of course. The best puro came from the '90s.

I watch a lot of wrestling. A LOT of wrestling. Week in, week out, for years. Ever since I graduated from college (May '03) I've hardly watched any WWE, mostly just the pimped stuff. And I'm a lot happier for it and I have more than I can watch thanks to the internet. Between old-school and current day, US majors and indies and Japan, there's enough in the way of great matches and storylines and feuds that I feel fine not tearing my hair out over crappy Sports Entertainment segments in-between cookie-cutter punchfests. Now that's not to say I think ill of those who watch and enjoy WWE, merely that I'm of the opinion that 4 hours a week watching it can just as easily be spent on other wrestling.

mary had a little clam
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...


Young Orc

coagulate posted:

Who were the ten best puro workers in 2005?

I'll give you my picks, from my perspective as a casual japanese wrestling fan. I love WWE, TNA, and ROH and can enjoy matches from all three, different as they may be. So, I'm a forgiving wrestling fan, to be sure.

Anyways, my top ten Japanese workers are (in no particular order):

KENTA - NOAH
CIMA - Dragon's Gate
Genki Horiguchi - Dragon's Gate
Milano Collection AT - Dragon's Gate/ROH/FIP
Satoshi Kojima - NJPW
Koji Kanemoto - NJPW
Kanemaru - NOAH
Naomichi Marufuji - NOAH
Kenta Kobashi - NOAH
Kensuke Sasaki - NOAH, Dragon's Gate

Those are the ten guys that I enjoy the most these days. Honorable mention goes to HEAT, Tiger Mask 4, Kanemaru, Dragon Kid, K-NESS, Magnum Tokyo, Kaz Hayashi, TAKA Michinoku, Minoru Fujita, and of course, CURRY MAN!

I'm sure more seasoned Japanese wrestling fans will find my list all hosed up, but there ya go.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

NOAH ran the Nippon Budokan today, claiming a sell-out though they might not have. Main results included the team of Akebono & Rikio winning with a stacked splash, Team Misawa beating Team Sasaki, KENTA defending the junior title over Marufuji, and Akiyama winning the heavyweight title from Taue.

The stacked splash, which I can only begin to describe how little I'd like to be on the receiving end of:
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight...22/a06/p14.html
edit: http://courage.chips.jp/gifimage/0122/bono.gif

Ditch fucked around with this message at Jan 22, 2006 around 16:56

Rodney the Piper
Sep 19, 2005

family sticks together


Ditch posted:

Way to take a lot of things out of context.

I certainly wasn't trying to do that, nor was I trying to trash puro, it was a legitimate question I had given my minimal knowledge of puro.

Thanks for the information, Ditch. Your columns are one of the few reasons I go to InsidePulse.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

Keep your energy high with my Beast Power Rap

I just watched KENTA vs. Marufuji and Akiyama vs. Taue from the 1/22/06 NOAH Budokan show, here are my thoughts:

KENTA vs. Marufuji - Pretty drat great match. There were a couple sloppy spots but once they started to get into the "serious" phase of the match it kicked into overdrive. So many awesome nagareshiki (top rope "avalance-style") moves. Afterwards I read about some of the history leading up to the match and it made it that much better. Probably around ****1/4. Highly recommended.

You can get it from here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/08qkew

Taue vs. Akiyama - Decent match, considering Taue is a slow fat old man that shouldn't really be wrestling anymore. Some good sequences but it had quite a slow pace in a lot of parts. Also, I didn't really care for the finish that much, but it wasn't that big a deal. Maybe a *** match.

You can get it here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/eia3wq

Boco_T fucked around with this message at Jan 23, 2006 around 20:43

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/articles/46142
New Column: An extended look at Akiyama, a run-down of the latest New Japan moves, and MORE! Not much more but it's still MORE!

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/articles/46278
New column: New Japan imploding! Black Cat dead! Akebono vs Lesnar in tag action! READ IIIIITTTTT!

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

Ditch posted:

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/articles/46278
New column: New Japan imploding! Black Cat dead! Akebono vs Lesnar in tag action! READ IIIIITTTTT!

I needed a good laugh today.

Oh New Japan.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

I don't think it's funny They were one of the top promotions in the world not a year and a half ago from an in-ring standpoint, and now they're utterly missable. The 2004 G-1 was so good, as were '02 and '03, and of the guys in those tournaments there's no Takayama, Minoru Suzuki, Nishimura, Yoshie, Shibata, Sasaki, Akiyama, Tenryu, Blue Wolf and maybe Kanemoto. I'll take that crew over Tenzan, Chono, Nagata, Nakanishi, Nakamura, Tanahashi and Makabe any day of the week.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Brandon Bird + Puroresu =
http://www.brandonbird.com/inoki2.html
http://www.brandonbird.com/inoki4.html

Man, the things you find thumbing through his site...

Handjob Susan
Jun 18, 2001

Now he is your avatar. Shithead.

I just watched the Ito v. Abby Jr. 4 corners of pain match on youtube. And while the video quality is lovely it really doesn't take anything away from the complete insanity of the finish.

WWJDD:What would James Dalton Do?

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

It's going to happen this year; it's what we're going to do. We're going to win the NL Central.

Pillbug

Son of Spam posted:

I just watched the Ito v. Abby Jr. 4 corners of pain match on youtube. And while the video quality is lovely it really doesn't take anything away from the complete insanity of the finish.

I love deathmatch finishes. They're just so...crazy.

Whatever happened to the simpler days of dumping someone into a tank of pirahna?

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HwoodNG
May 4, 2004

Highly Respected SAS Wrestling Poster

Bless YouTube forever. I just watched Takehiro Murahama & Jushin "Thunder" Lyger vs Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA from the 2003 GHC Jr. Tag Team Title Tourney Final and thought it was an incredible match with fantastic action, striking and near falls that made me think the match was over, and I knew exactly how the match ended already.

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