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profbobo
May 22, 2004

Vivat Buster!

Friendly reminder that the Deep Discount sale starts tomorrow! 20% off. I was going to start another thread on it but I wasn't sure if that was kosher or not in CineD.

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Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!


profbobo posted:

Friendly reminder that the Deep Discount sale starts tomorrow! 20% off. I was going to start another thread on it but I wasn't sure if that was kosher or not in CineD.

Gah, hello empty wallet.

I'm sure it would've been fine, considering every DVD board on the internet has a thread about the sale.

Grapefruit Pulp
Jan 20, 2006

PULP CAN MOVE BABY

They should really try to acquire the rights to 25th Hour. People have kind of forgotten about that movie.

Og Oggilby
Feb 12, 2005


February Criterions:

When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
49th Parallel

Paul Robeson: Portaits of the Artist (box set)
- The Emperor Jones
- Paul Robeson: A Tribute to the Artist
- Sanders of the River
- Jericho
- Body and Soul
- Borderline
- Proud Valley
- Native Land

The Bicycle Thief (AKA Bicycle Thieves):

Green for Danger:


Details are up on Criterion's site.

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

Let's* go Blackhawks! The Blues and Red Wings suck.

It was weird how they hadn't put out The Bicycle Thief but they've had Umberto D. for ages. Oh well, I look forward to another dive into neo-realism.

El Graplurado
Mar 24, 2004
I do backflips when you're not looking.

I wholeheartedly support the release of Green For Danger.

The Landstander
Apr 20, 2004

I stand on land.

I honestly would've guessed Criterion had released The Bicycle Thief. Odd.

That's pretty neat though, should be worth getting.

Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever


Bicycle Thieves, hell yes! I'm interested in 49th Parallel as well.

vertov
Jun 14, 2003

hello

Two box sets in two months? That seems a bit odd. Neither looks like it would be a big seller either, so I guess they're just releasing everything from the back catalogue while waiting out the HiDef debate. I assume that's why they've been doing so many rereleases lately as well.

49th Parallel is very good. It's not typical of Powell and Pressburger (either as fantasists or propogandists). Most of their other propoganda films deal exclusively with building Anglo-American alliances, but that one actually features the big E enemy. Very exciting and weird.

When a Woman Ascends the Stairs is okay. The Naruse hype is going to die down fast once people actually see his films. I've heard is prewar stuff is interesting, but chances are we'll never see them on DVD (and I missed the Shochiku retrospective). Oh well, at least they're releasing a Japanese film that isn't Kurosawa.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



When a Woman Ascends the Stairs - Never seen any Naruse, but I'm curious. I swear I had this video out from the library at the some point, perhaps I imagined it. vertov, your comments are intriguing... weren't you hyping Naruse yourself some time ago? Again, maybe I imagined it.

49th Parallel - I can usually sit through a P&P film and get something out of it, but I don't get excited for them.

Paul Robeson box - Well, he's got a heck of a voice, but I've never seen him act. This is possibly the weirdest entry in the Criterion catalog.

The Bicycle Thief - I've seen it three times and I feel like that's enough. A possible rental at some future date, but unlikely.

Green for Danger - Never heard of it, but it sounds like my cup of tea.

FitFortDanga fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Nov 17, 2006

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot


FitFortDanga posted:

When a Woman Ascends the Stairs - Never seen any Naruse, but I'm curious. I swear I had this video out from the library at the some point, perhaps I imagined it. vertov, your comments are intriguing... weren't you hyping Naruse yourself some time ago? Again, maybe I imagined it.

Might've been SubG.

Or possibly the elitists on criterionforum.

vertov
Jun 14, 2003

hello

cryme posted:

Or possibly the elitists on criterionforum.

Yeah, it was probably just that one guy on cf (Michael Kerpan I think?). He's really obnoxious about his presumed expertise in all things Japanese cinema, which basically amounts to turning every conversation into one about Ozu or Naruse. The problem is, Criterion is working very closely with Donald Ritchie, so basically all we're going to get from them are postwar films of the "golden age" of the 1950s and early 60s, thereby perpetuating the "golden age" and "big three" perspectives of approaching Japanese cinema. The fact that titles like Crazed Fruit haven't sold at all isn't encouraging them to branch out either.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



vertov posted:

Yeah, it was probably just that one guy on cf (Michael Kerpan I think?). He's really obnoxious about his presumed expertise in all things Japanese cinema, which basically amounts to turning every conversation into one about Ozu or Naruse.

Hmm, that's probably it.

Here's the cover:



Not far off from the VHS cover:

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot


Can't say I care much for that cover art. It's fairly busy and doesn't seem very cohesive. But now I sound like someone from cf.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.


cryme posted:

Might've been SubG.
Or possibly the elitists on criterionforum.
To the best of my recollection, I have never pimped for Naruse in CineD. But I'm glad to be thought of in the same breath (thought of in breath? what the hell am I talking about?) as the elitists on criterionforum.

Anyway, it's nice to see some Naruse hitting DVD...although I await with trepidation something equivalent to the Ozu effect. Someone on these here forums has an avatar of a guy chatting up a bit of it at a party, with a title something like, `Yeah, I'm into some pretty wild stuff, like Chuck Palahniuk and Vanilla Sky'. Every time Criterion goes on another DVD-releasing tear with a new `foreign' director, all the middlebrow film snoblings start sounding like that to me, (`Yeah, I'm really into obscure Japanese cinema, like Kurosawa and Ozu').

vertov
Jun 14, 2003

hello

I don’t think the cf people are elitist so much as they just have very particular tastes. A few of them seem more interest in Ozu, Naruse et al as “connoisseurs of Japaneseness” than as actual film fans. I have a pretty big problem with type of mentality, but I don't think it's elitist. I guess in the case of Naruse, where his films have only been shown in the country twice (once in the early eighties and again last year at a touring retrospective), there's a certain amount of smugness that goes with "oh, it's too bad you haven't seen Floating Cloads, but I assure you it's sublime."

SubG posted:

(`Yeah, I'm really into obscure Japanese cinema, like Kurosawa and Ozu').

This is basically my life, every single day of the week. Whenever I'm at a social event, sooner or later someone aks me "so what do you do?" and I tell them I'm a student studying Japanese film. "OH YOU MEAN LIKE KUROSAWA?!"

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



vertov posted:

there's a certain amount of smugness that goes with "oh, it's too bad you haven't seen Floating Cloads, but I assure you it's sublime."

God yes, this drives me up the wall... and the worst is when I catch myself doing it. It's always the movies that no one else has seen that are the greatest films ever made (or the one you saw before everyone else, or the one you saw at the OMG ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE while holding hands with Quentin Tarantino).

I confess that when I do poo poo like this, there is a certain amount of smugness to it. But there's also a genuine desire to get people excited about a movie that excited me. I hope that's what motivates others, and not just elitist "I've seen this amazing film you never heard of neener neener".

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.


vertov posted:

I guess in the case of Naruse, where his films have only been shown in the country twice (once in the early eighties and again last year at a touring retrospective), there's a certain amount of smugness that goes with "oh, it's too bad you haven't seen Floating Cloads, but I assure you it's sublime."
Really? Have prints been available for university/film festival showings? I would've sworn that I saw it in a theatre, but it would've been mid to late '80s, not early '80s. It's the one with the dutiful but addlepated woman chasing the unsympathetic rear end in a top hat for six or seven reels of unrequited love, yes? I also seem to remember a sequence on a boat.

vertov
Jun 14, 2003

hello

SubG posted:

Really? Have prints been available for university/film festival showings? I would've sworn that I saw it in a theatre, but it would've been mid to late '80s, not early '80s. It's the one with the dutiful but addlepated woman chasing the unsympathetic rear end in a top hat for six or seven reels of unrequited love, yes? I also seem to remember a sequence on a boat.

It could have been the mid/late eighties. I'm pretty bad with dates, so I might just be mixing things up. I'm pretty sure his films have only been exhibited once or twice in the states though, barring a film like Woman which is generally well known. There was an interview on NPR (or maybe NYT online) with one of the producers from Criterion awhile back, and they talked about the disconnect between Naruse's position in the canon and the near complete lack of exhibition of his films.

th1rdeye
Nov 18, 2004

He who arises in might

I'm actually really excited to see the Naruse film, if only because I've heard such great things about his work. Other than that, I'd love to see Criterion come out with more Imamura. The Pornographers is one of favorite films I've seen recently.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot


SubG posted:

To the best of my recollection, I have never pimped for Naruse in CineD. But I'm glad to be thought of in the same breath (thought of in breath? what the hell am I talking about?) as the elitists on criterionforum.

Heh, I didn't mean you were an elitist like some people over on cf, you were just the only other CineD'r that may have possibly seen a Naruse film, to my knowledge.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



My Double Life of Veronique just arrived. I probably won't get a chance to watch it until the weekend, but the packaging is gorgeous.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.


vertov posted:

It could have been the mid/late eighties. I'm pretty bad with dates, so I might just be mixing things up. I'm pretty sure his films have only been exhibited once or twice in the states though, barring a film like Woman which is generally well known.
But does that mean that there aren't any prints floating around anywhere? Back in the '80s and early '90s you used to be able to find a lot of films via university inter-library loan if they weren't in commercial release. That's how I first saw Chimes at Midnight (1965) and Suna No Onna (1964) (Woman in the Dunes), and Cassavetes' Faces (1968) for example.

IMDB says that the US release of Ukigumo (1955) was in 1980, and I'm pretty sure that was before I would've been hanging out in arthouse theatres.

cryme posted:

Heh, I didn't mean you were an elitist like some people over on cf, you were just the only other CineD'r that may have possibly seen a Naruse film, to my knowledge.
No problem; I just feel like I spend more time in CineD talking about kung fu films and schlock horror films than I do about quote serious unquote cinema---so I was sorta surprised that I'd be thought of as one of the CineD cognoscenti.

I mean, I just got double-dipped by the Dark Sky release of The Beast Must Die (1974), which has to really hurt your film snob credentials.

vertov
Jun 14, 2003

hello

SubG posted:

But does that mean that there aren't any prints floating around anywhere? Back in the '80s and early '90s you used to be able to find a lot of films via university inter-library loan if they weren't in commercial release. That's how I first saw Chimes at Midnight (1965) and Suna No Onna (1964) (Woman in the Dunes), and Cassavetes' Faces (1968) for example.

IMDB says that the US release of Ukigumo (1955) was in 1980, and I'm pretty sure that was before I would've been hanging out in arthouse theatres.

Yeah, I guess you're right. The Wisconsin archive probably has prints of a few Naruse films (or at least access to them through Japan). I wouldn't be surprised if Harvard or UCLA did as well. I think Faces and the Teshigahara films has non-theatrical distributors, although I don't know about the Welles.

Phalex
May 14, 2002



FitFortDanga posted:

My Double Life of Veronique just arrived. I probably won't get a chance to watch it until the weekend, but the packaging is gorgeous.

I've been waiting for this to come out for forever. Even though I haven't actually seen it. I love what Kieslowski films I have seen, and I always wanted to watch this, but not on VHS.

Anyway, I bought it yesterday and watched it, and it is a beautiful transfer, and the 70 booklet it came with looks very nice, but I haven't read it yet. Commentary by Annette Insdorf, who on the Three Colors DVDs was very insightful, although very dry, as though she were reading the commentary from note cards.

Now I eagerly await L'enfer.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



According to the Criterion blog:

They have renewed the rights to Salo and are working on a new transfer. Coming 2007.

Other early titles will be re-released, about 3-4 a year. It's worded a bit ambiguously, but possibly Shock Corridor and Andrei Rublev will be among them.

Macrame_God
Sep 1, 2005

The stairs lead down in both directions.



FitFortDanga posted:

They have renewed the rights to Salo and are working on a new transfer. Coming 2007.

So much for the Criterion version of Salo being so very coveted. This new edition will most likely have a far better transfer and perhaps some extras.

janklow
Sep 28, 2001

whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.


FitFortDanga posted:

They have renewed the rights to Salo and are working on a new transfer. Coming 2007.
i'm torn between "this is awesome in principle" and "i shouldn't be this excited about Salo."

bmmello
Jul 11, 2002



Bought Equinox.

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

Let's* go Blackhawks! The Blues and Red Wings suck.

FitFortDanga posted:

According to the Criterion blog:

They have renewed the rights to Salo and are working on a new transfer. Coming 2007.

Other early titles will be re-released, about 3-4 a year. It's worded a bit ambiguously, but possibly Shock Corridor and Andrei Rublev will be among them.

Goddamnit, I just bought Andrei Rublev and Shock Corridor less than 6 months ago. However, both of these films have pretty much no extras and alright transfers so I guess an update is warranted. Now get the rights from Kino for other Tarkovsky films

Macrame_God
Sep 1, 2005

The stairs lead down in both directions.



bmmello posted:

Bought Equinox.

You wont be disappointed.

Alain Delon
Oct 28, 2004

how strange it is to be anything at all


spent the day watching some of my favortie criterion supplements including...

Slacker reunion + Richard Linklater and Lee Daniel's Woodshock.
&
John Cassavetes Cineastes de notre temps on Faces.


hoping to pick up F for Fake soon!

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

The Bicycle Thief

Holy poo poo! Something else to add to my Christmas list. I should be getting 7 Samurai for my birthday.

vertov
Jun 14, 2003

hello

It looks like The Third Man is out of print. Are the planning a reissue of this, or did they just lose the rights?

chime_on
Jul 27, 2001


BlueLaser posted:

The Bicycle Thief

Holy poo poo! Something else to add to my Christmas list.

Be aware that Bicycle Thieves doesn't come out until February, so it'll be a late Christmas gift.

LordEvilElmo
Feb 8, 2004

The box... Says no

vertov posted:

It looks like The Third Man is out of print. Are the planning a reissue of this, or did they just lose the rights?

I remember hearing a new version was coming out. It was supposedly around November time this year. Here's hoping.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

chime_on posted:

Be aware that Bicycle Thieves doesn't come out until February, so it'll be a late Christmas gift.

Ahh, well I can wait.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



Cover art for 49th Parallel:

Sheldrake
Jul 19, 2006


Anyone get the Pandora's Box DVD yet? Any thoughts? I'm asking for it for the holidays, and I really want to hear what it's like.

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MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

I'm still waiting for Criterion to release Carl Th. Dreyer's Vampyr.
It has been almost five years since there was a news bit that they were working on it and nothing has happened. I'd really like to replace my lovely dvd version with a proper one.

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