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ConfusedUs posted:It's easily top 5 moments for me in all of OotS. I think "your fault" deserves a spot up there https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0857.html OotS got a lot of mockery for its writing and was used as an example of "how not to do webcomics" for decades but I actually really like its writing. It's clever and genuinely funny.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2020 06:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 19:40 |
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sebmojo posted:the most i've heard is that it's insanely wordy, which, fair cop. Yeah, I saw it very frequently cited as an example (THE example) of how NOT to lay out your panels and how NOT to write dialogue. What's the rule that people cite, no more than 32 words per panel? I think OotS has broken that almost every page of its run. It is not at all universally liked, though I do like it quite a lot as a member of the niche it's made for. On that note, I started reading through the whole thing again and MAN, I forgot how awful Miko was. Well-written character to the end who served her purpose well, but she really hosed everything up at every possible opportunity.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2020 12:56 |
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Schwarzwald posted:Your honor, Not Guilty W.T. Fits posted:Yeah, whenever I've seen complaints about it as a comic, it's usually due to how wordy some segments can be, with the closing arguments at the kangaroo court in Azure City in the second book being the go-to example. comic way too wordy for chief grukgruk sometimes Cup Runneth Over fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 22, 2020 15:13 |
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Venuz Patrol posted:i've always been a fan of "Has anyone seen Tsukiko?" Not since I brutally murdered her ten minutes ago, no" (832) I appreciated his early forays into feminism and strong female characters but he of all people should know that they are more effective when you aren't quite so blatant about it. You can't put a lampshade on misogyny, sorry. e: also I think this is my favorite throwaway gag in the whole comic Cup Runneth Over fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Sep 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 22, 2020 19:01 |
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Alright, read through the entire comic again and honestly I think "yer me" is probably the #1 moment in the entire comic: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1130.html When I got past the 4th gate arc I remembered the whole vampire subplot was about to kick off and there were still 200 pages left and I was like "ughhh, vampire Durkon takes so long to resolve, this is going to be a slog," but I think I only remembered it like that because I was reading it in real time, and Durkon had been a vampire for five loving years. Reading back through it a second time was very enjoyable and it's really a shining example of how the comic has changed and all the characters have gone from one-note walking tropes to fully realized and fleshed-out protagonists with motivations and backstories and personal growth. It would be nice if the vectorized stick figure comic could speed up its update schedule a bit, though.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2020 22:45 |
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This is 1000% when they realize that the MitD has been painting doors they haven't cleared. They will argue about whether or not it repopulated for a while before Redcloak will come up with a reason why it couldn't have, and they will either discipline the monster assuming it was just dumb or realize that it can't be trusted and get rid of it. It might use its "escape" power again to avoid being killed and join up with the good guys, eventually. This is probably not where they have their climactic showdown with Xykon because too much is still unresolved. However, whether this is where Xykon finds the gate, or he finds it later on, he will use his possession of it to threaten the protagonists, only for them to point out that the gate is no actual threat to them since Redcloak is just planning to teleport it to another plane as a bargaining chip for his god. Then Xykon will turn on Redcloak, realizing he was being used all along, at the least opportune time for the both of them. This is, of course, assuming that Rich goes with the obvious story resolution, and doesn't pull something out of his hat to avoid being predictable. Cup Runneth Over fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 5, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 5, 2020 21:35 |
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ikanreed posted:That is up there with "fireball explicitly doesn't damage fragile or flammable unattended objects" over-tuning the rules. Well, spells in D&D are supposed to do exactly what they say and no more. They have decades of rules lawyering experience to come up with that stuff.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2020 15:55 |
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wdarkk posted:Yes, and even if they disbelieve it's still some % real so they still take damage. Ah, the homeopathic fireball. Hurts you less if you believe.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2020 16:12 |
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When I roll around on the floor it doesn't put the magical fire out
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2020 18:45 |
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sebmojo posted:classic oots Honestly, Belkar might be one of my favorite characters just because of the roundabout, awkward path he's taken to becoming, if not a good person, then at least a normal, reasonable one. "Munchkin has to learn how to roleplay" is a pretty great character arc.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2020 21:27 |
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ConfusedUs posted:1150 is a really good. I particularly love the panel where it pulls out to reveal the entire Order is standing there, waiting to roll initiative and kick Hilgya's rear end. The best part is that they've been standing like that for ten minutes, waiting for her to finish resurrecting him again. Poor Roy, holding up that heavy-rear end sword while she casts.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2020 21:46 |
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Yea, the fact that the Silence is centered on the wolf is going to come up next time we see him and probably be amusing.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2020 21:04 |
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Say, what do you guys think the secret Thor told Durkon about that his people forgot was? I don't recall it coming up yet
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 19:09 |
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:it was where to find mjolnir Pseudoscorpion posted:It was the location of the hidden hammer in #1154 Ooh, right, totally forgot about that. I assumed he meant something more broad by "your people" than just "the clerics of your temple"
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 19:16 |
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DoctorTristan posted:Yeah, Rich does sometimes work in a “here’s why [character] doesn’t do [thing]”, presumably because he wants to pre-empt the 50 pages of grognardy forums discussion he’d otherwise have to endure. I thought it was the name of his publishing company? Do tell.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 20:59 |
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DoctorTristan posted:The story used to be up on the website, but it seems he’s taken it down now. The gist of it was that he was reading the wizards.com forums and was so incensed at the sheer number of Bad Opinions on there that he had no choice but to register and set them to rights. Naturally he needed a username that would impress upon them just powerful his RPG knowledge was, so he chose that B5 quote to impress upon Wrong People that he was the Vorlons to their Centauri and they should fear him. Ahahahahaha, what a nerd
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2020 00:26 |
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I simply don't believe this has never come up before. I am positive there's an official ruling out there somewhere.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 03:19 |
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Reminder that D&D spells are supposed to do only what they say they do and absolutely nothing more
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 04:14 |
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A.o.D. posted:That's for a regular dispel. Xykon is swinging around something a bit more potent. The same rules may not apply. Don't we know exactly what he's swinging around? Superb Dispelling, I thought?
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 15:44 |
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Which is just Greater Dispel Magic with a +40, so all the same rules apply.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 16:38 |
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Elan giving advice is probably the best part of this very good update but honorable mention to the nod given by "we can hope the wolf's having to do charades"
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2020 19:41 |
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Brainamp posted:Edit: or poo poo maybe just no spellcasting since it's supposed to reflect dwarf guy's belief in physical strength This is the funniest option and therefore correct
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2020 13:53 |
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TheAceOfLungs posted:*One hour into the session* That's just Funeral Quest but from the other side
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2020 19:38 |
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sebmojo posted:Just occurred to me that one thing no-one has done with the Gates is go through them. Why call them gates rather than Seals or w/e? Didn't the psion lady go through one?
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2020 21:54 |
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I think he's going to regret saying this is the last book
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2020 01:57 |
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Man there's so many books. It's like $250 to buy all of them, it's a shame they're so important to the plot.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2020 21:59 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Belkar didn't get in the Telapathic Bond cause he was outside covering the trail. Now the sneaky Ranger who's one of the vanguard of checking poo poo out is the 1 person who can't talk with the others. lol I thought the same thing, and then double-checked and Rich made very sure to cover this
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2020 17:50 |
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I don't think V has suboptimal INT. If anything they dumped WIS.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2020 22:55 |
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Man, I'm really going to miss Belkar when he's gone. Especially after his character arc, he's legitimately very entertaining.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 00:02 |
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Also, pretty sure V is level 17, since their Forcecage lasts thirty-four hours. But maybe they got energy drained or something.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 00:45 |
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ikanreed posted:Someone already noted the +1 caster level shiny bauble held by v's familiar O rite, I thought it was funny that Rich had to keep drawing it in the hundreds of subsequent comics. e: though I guess the familiar doesn't appear that often
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 00:54 |
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New page Redcloak is thinking emoji.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2020 14:23 |
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I think you'll find the Order is outnumbered by how many times Xykon can cast Meteor Swarm.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2020 21:05 |
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A.o.D. posted:Unless he learned the best lesson Mama Black Dragon could have taught him. This has to be the climax of V's character arc. It's too perfect.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 02:10 |
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Johnny Aztec posted:There have been a few scenes since about this. That's why it's perfect. V resolves their quest to become the ultimate wizard and wield unimaginable power capable of solving any problem... by turning off all the magic so that the fighter can smack the bad guys, thus saving the world.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 02:37 |
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You guys seem a little confused? He made an exact copy of the old phylactery and gave it to Xykon, same warding spells and all. Then he changed the old phylactery to look different and kept wearing it as a holy symbol. He never claimed to have made a new phylactery, it's just supposed to be a new holy symbol.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 19:54 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:You're misremembering. He got his backup holy symbol after the phylactery went missing, which has a distinct square design. When the original was recovered, he placed it in a bag and on his person, while he gave Xykon the copy to stow away. He continued wearing the square symbol for the remainder of book 5, but was wearing a round symbol since his first appearance in book 6. Possible but unlikely that he just forgot, however I am 99% sure that Redcloak just swapped from his backup holy symbol to the actual phylactery. The question is; given that Xykon doesn't appear to have noticed, did Redcloak dispel all the enchantments and wards on it? Because I feel like he'd pick up on how well-warded Redcloak's new holy symbol is.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 23:39 |
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ImpAtom posted:It is also entirely possible he knows but doesn't care because he has the secret ace card of the MitD eating him and spitting out the phylactery up his sleeve. Considering the effort he went to to put his phylactery in a pocket dimension, I think he would care.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 23:47 |
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jng2058 posted:He wouldn't be able to sense poo poo, though. That's why they needed all those hobgobs searching the sewers by hand....at least one of the wards on it was Non-Detection which prevented any scrying or other magical sense from working on it. Yeah, that's what I mean. He would probably notice that his holy symbol is super well-warded. The absence of sense is just as noteworthy as strongly sensing.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2020 00:10 |
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maltesh posted:Redcloak and Xykon both know that members of the Order of the Stick have the information that, at least at one time, Redcloak used Xykon's phylactery as his Holy Symbol. I guess O-Chul probably told them what his phylactery looks like, yeah, true
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