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I don't think Nale with have any lasting effect on the follow: the gate, durkon, or xykon. Nale is a gag villain. It would be poor storytelling to let anything to do with the main story be affected by him. If he kills durkon then the party will never have to confront him, which is a good 50+ page story arc right there. If Nale destroys the gate or xykon then that removes any conflict for our heroes. The linear guild will find a reason to leave, either by turning on each other and/or our heroes using a cunning plan. Then the real show starts for the gate.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2013 17:20 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 21:52 |
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Hahaha goblins is just so bad. He at least used to try a tell a story, when he was a worse artist. Now it got like 8 story lines going and takes months before you switch to another one. But it doesn't matter what storyline you are on every scene is tits and gore. He might as well make it a 18+ comic and sell it as porn.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2013 21:53 |
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DaveWoo posted:To be fair, the latest Goblins comic currently up on the site contains no tits, and barely any gore. A giant wall of text talking about the 1 time characters that were in a page full of gore and tits. He is seriously trying to have a battle royale, but with every other picture being a wall of text talking about the background of alternative reality characters. It is so awkwardly paced and full of gore, tits, and hints of tentacle rape (god I wish I was making that up). So basically is a perfect analogy for what the rest of the comic is like.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2013 22:08 |
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Superstring posted:It's almost like all the characters are flawed or something! What!? I prefer my heroes to be flawless and 1 dimensional. I want my heroes to be always morally correct even if they kill Jesus and help an eldirtich horror's plan to destroy the world multiple times on purpose . That is why I read Dominic deegan
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2013 06:19 |
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I think this whole illusion is just a Segway to the next plot point. My bet is that some significant (as in something important happened not a long amount of time) amount time has past since the illusion started. Maybe V might have gotten them out of there and the bad guys have control of the gate.
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# ¿ May 14, 2013 20:12 |
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It has been a while since I read start of darkness, but I thought he liked bad coffee, because it was more memorable to good coffee. That you had to hold onto the fleeting feeling of good coffee. But bad coffee was memorable. You can't help but remember that terrible cup no matter how hard you tried.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 21:56 |
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Nah next page he says those 3 are not his regular supervisors. Shwqa fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Jun 11, 2013 |
# ¿ Jun 11, 2013 08:16 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Aren't. (Typo?) Yeah for some reason I forget to make things negative pretty often. It really sucks on college finals Shwqa fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jun 11, 2013 |
# ¿ Jun 11, 2013 08:58 |
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prefect posted:Sure, you'll get a lot of souls in one big batch, but it's not sustainable. Wouldn't it be better for them to keep the planet non-doomed and farm souls forever? I think it is safe to assume the 3 fiends have more information than us and the oots have. And they seem to be long term thinkers. They didn't want V's soul because they had something bigger in mind. Something big is going to happen that will change the story.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2013 01:48 |
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Idran posted:Wait, I missed this post. They're doing this, and you guys were saying they're the worst because of a thread nitpicking room acoustics? I expect this from horrible forum posters. They LOVE rape. I don't expect them to complain that the room built by wizards couldn't possibly have good autistics.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2013 17:22 |
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WickedHate posted:As far as sons go, Tarquin seems to "care" more about Elan. I can see him casually murdering Nale if he annoys him too much. He cares for Elan at least in the sense that Elan is the key to his immortally. He believes their conflict will be a story of the ages. He wouldn't let that go so easily. Nale doesn't have the same thing to offer him, evil killing evil for power isn't as entertaining of a story.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2013 00:49 |
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Hmmm Vampire durkon could be a monkey wrench in the grand scheme of the 3 arch demons. Their whole plan seems to revolve around taking V out of the game and weakening the party at critical moments, but now the team as a whole is stronger. They also planned On puppeting the linear guild who is now a man short. That and some humility from V and having him/her telling the party about the deal could derail their plan beyond repair.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2013 02:59 |
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greatn posted:Most of the next adventure is probably in caves anyway. I'm pretty sure the next gate is in a cave.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2013 04:45 |
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Angela Christine posted:This is the worst derail. The worst because it naturally leads to wondering, "how do you even have sex with a lich?" Nothing good can come of it. If anyone tries to explain this I swear god I'll buy them a goblins avatar.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2013 07:16 |
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Bongo Bill posted:Tarquin's flaw, the thing that will cause his downfall, is that he thinks Elan is the hero of the story, when in fact he's the comic relief. The jester overthrowing the king would be an amazing story of rags to riches but would make the king look like a fool. Not the ending tarquin wants. Edit: also Tarquin relays on tropes to predict the future. His son knows all the same tropes. It said to reason elan could just do something different. Shwqa fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Aug 20, 2013 |
# ¿ Aug 20, 2013 02:31 |
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Cliff Racer posted:Having Nale under her control would solve that dilemma while allowing her to continue loving him. It suits the characters perfectly well and is interesting enough, I would say. Though I don't think they'd have a whole guild to go along with it. Probably just showing up when the fiends make their move. Her, Nale, V's body and the imp does not a Linear Guild make. Well if she was in charge it would make sense the Linear guild would direcetly be working for the 3 fiends, whom seem to have some pretty good pull in hell. Their plan is so important that even gods are willing to allow massive duck ups (like killing a third of the black dragon). I'm sure they could get a spellcaster.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2013 17:28 |
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I wouldn't call nale's death anti-climatic. He seems like he spent most of his youth as a puppet of his controlling father. His adulthood was a breaking of those strings, but he never could broken free (his father kept bounty hunters off him). He has always been in the shadow on Tarquin or Elan. This was the first moment he was truely free of all of the plans tarquin had planned for him. Course it resulted in his death
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2013 22:50 |
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For people saying tarquin actions don't make sense , think of it this way. 1) tarquin hates people that questions his rule. He was going try and kill red regardless of the main plot or who he was related too. 2) tarquin knows a good story when he see ones. A young rogue has to find and save her dad from an evil empire. That is a pretty good story. It might even be a comparable story to the one he has planned for Elan and himself. He knows basic story telling which would point that likely the heroes will save the world. So he is milking the party out of any more value he can get out of them.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 08:55 |
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TheBalor posted:Yeah, his plan only works if at some point, people realize en masse that he and his friends have been controlling everything the whole time. If they all die in some unknown fashion, they will be historical footnotes at best. I thought that was basically his plan before Élan came into the picture. Spend over half his life as a king until some random hero comes and kills him. It only when Élan was the hero was it an amazing story that could stand the test of time.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2013 19:28 |
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Oh hey I wasn't excepting a comic on my birthday V is going to show up next comic. They just showed her in hell last comic. Showing a gun in comic 1, then an problem in comic 2, and then using said gun to solve the problem in comic 3. That is basic story telling right there.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2013 19:18 |
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nimby posted:I dunno, if Belkar gets the vampire treatment as well, what's to stop Durkon from vamping the entire party? Then we have a lame vampires vs Xykon ending where nobody really wins. It takes 2 weeks to vampire someone normally. Xykon is at the next gate today.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2013 23:55 |
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Not that there would be any way for it to end up there, but could Sabine be cleaning up Nale dust? It is possible, but unlikely. More likely she is cleaning the room she just wrecked last comic she was in.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2013 04:49 |
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I don't understand how the demons tricked V. They straight up told her that there was an alternative that would save her family. Sure it wasn't great, but it would have worked. The point was V could save her family two ways. One way was to depend on the team and her mentor in her time of need. The other was to depend on raw ill gotten power.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2013 16:38 |
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Simian_Prime posted:I'm wondering what his allies think of all this. We're counting them in the fight, but considering they're evil, and have been watching Tarquin waste all this time and resources on getting his idiot son to join them, and had their cleric murdered by his OTHER idiot son, with no benefit for them... I'm sure Tarquin's allies are quite used to him having complex long term plans. So far he has managed to make shadow leaders of half a continent, where they spend their lives in luxury. So they might be pissed he managed to let their cleric die, but overall he has gotten them more then they could have dreamed. Also I fail to see how preventing a epic level lich making base camp in your country and using a super weapon to rule the world, counts a waste of resources. Tarquin already said it is always a crapshoot when its villains vs villains. He needed a hero to go in a do the deed.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2013 09:14 |
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greatn posted:Belkar dies by casting Meteor in an attempt to kill Golbez and stop him from reaching the moon. Of course a spoony goon would predict this. (This is my favorite and probably the mostly likely prediction for Belkar has made)
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2013 20:31 |
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Ursine Asylum posted:The same thing that's been happening to him, as well as V's familiar-- the rest of the party doesn't pay any attention to him whatsoever. He'll continue showing up in situations and backgrounds where the reader notices him, but nobody else in the party does. Or V might take care of a both, as a kindness to Belkar for his likely heroic sacrifice.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2013 17:49 |
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W.T. Fits posted:New Strip They seem a lot less puppety or controlled then I thought. They fully aware that tarquin loves story structures and controlling people. And opted out of things without consequences. Maybe tarquin is not the ruthless controller that he has lead on to be. What if he is the Elan of the party?
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2013 05:32 |
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Angela Christine posted:At this point Tarquin should just acknowledge that the "tragic execution" isn't working and call off his men. He's down dozens of mooks, a wizard just showed up, and his high level buddies aren't willing to help. Call off the mooks and the Order still has more important business than dealing with him right now. Haha I hope this happens. 2 main characters killed around the time Belkar is supposed to die and neither are him Maybe everyone will die except Elan.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2013 19:34 |
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Wolfsheim posted:Good show, Rich. I'm wondering if Tarquin is going to give chase, or be impressed enough by their dramatic escape that he just lets them go. The whole point was to piss of Elan enough to make sure he will return and kill Tarquin one day. Trying to kill his friends does a pretty good job of that.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2013 07:57 |
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KATY PERRY posted:Considering that the GitP forums had people who complained that Elan took Hold Poison instead of Cure Light Wounds or whatever because there were only 2 situations where curing poison would be used, and a counted large numer where characters were injured, it would be the optimal choice, I wouldn't hold out my hopes Wow.... They even have a in comic convention on why he didn't take cure light wound.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2013 21:31 |
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Can durkon just dominate elan and threat to have elan kill himself if turquin doesn't leave them alone?
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2013 22:12 |
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Hell even Tarquin's plan to die by the hands of a hero was specifically for himself. He never included his buddies in that plan. He even had plans for malak to continue the kingdom, likely by having to remake it after tarquin died. It is Tarquin's dream to die the awesome villain. Much like it was malak's dream to have a kingdom for his god. And psionic's girl dream to have her children avoid their lifestyle. They worked together in a beneficial partnership to achieve everyone's goals. They could trust each other. Doing that for 20-30 years forges some strong relationships. Edit: changing topics, I just realized that the lizard kingdom is aware of tarquin and his buddies. Sure the messages died before telling the dragon queen, but what if they messages the other kingdoms? The crew may have gotten too cocky and made themselves a target for the rest of the kingdoms. I think Tarquin's arc would end really nicely when the sticks getting away and when he return to his kingdom finds it destroyed. Shwqa fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Oct 31, 2013 |
# ¿ Oct 31, 2013 21:23 |
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Yeah tarquin didn't lose most of his army. This is just one legion of his army. He likely has hundreds maybe even thousands of legions in his army. He owns an invasion force. If a group of weakened mid level adventurers could destory his whole army in about 20 minutes, then he wouldn't have gotten this far.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2013 06:55 |
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The Leper Colon V posted:One of the few things Goblins ever did right was their take on this. Self-absorbed Yeah goblin would be a good comic without all the gore porn, rape, sexism, absolute following of the d&d rules, holier then thou main characters, and dues ex floating orb character.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2013 23:57 |
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PFlats posted:Hey, so what does everybody think that psion's alignment is? Neutral evil? I kinda picture tarquin as a man that views chaotically neutral or evil character as loose cannons. So I would rule out any of the team members as that. Shwqa fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Nov 13, 2013 |
# ¿ Nov 13, 2013 07:02 |
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I would buy a book of the adventures of o-chul and Julio
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2013 23:21 |
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ZearothK posted:Unfortunately, so do I. I really hope we are both wrong on that account, because I am really tired of reversal of fortunes at this point. I don't think she is coming back for a fight. She might come in to rescue tarkie, but that is it. She is down 2 levels, she has use a bunch mp or whatever its called, and a teammate. Meanwhile our heroes have a new high level ally and his crew. Running into that hoping to turn the tides is a dumb way to die.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2013 21:03 |
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xanthan posted:So what kind evil and how much is Durkon now? Like, if he's lawful evil I could see him continuing to follow Roy out of obligation to the Order of the Stick. I think durkon is a very similar person except now his moral compass is a little different. I don't have link to the comic, but I'm sure someone will provide them. Think back to the when the linear guild was capture in the inn. V wanted to kill them and have the whole mess be over with. Back then durkon would have never done such a thing. Now he does it with a smile. He still does the same things and has the same goals, but now if kill someone is more effective option then he will take it.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2013 23:08 |
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TunaSpleen posted:In a game of D&D I once talked my DM into letting me deliver a spell to an enemy by having my raven poop on it. We argued over the ability of a raven to aim at a combatant and how often it poops/how many times per day it can do that. I hate myself for arguing this, but I thought birds couldn't control their rectum?
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2013 01:16 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 21:52 |
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Ursine Asylum posted:I never thought I would find a "waiting-for-Rich" topic derail I like less than goblins, and yet here it is. Poop puns and biological questions are worse than gore porn and rape?
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2013 03:49 |