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falz
Jan 29, 2005

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You should go retro and paint the old Bucs color scheme.

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falz
Jan 29, 2005

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demonbleh posted:



Poor kid. Picture less important than the TV in front of it.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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grap3fruitman posted:



There's a few things I regret; going with that dark of a paint color, forgetting to run CAT5E everywhere I needed it, not thinking to run something other than speaker wire to the back of the room (say like HDMI or something) and not putting in a projector. Oh well.

Or just Conduit. Who sits in the chair on the box?

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Stares At Floor posted:

expensive stuff
What's the thing next to the Popcorn Hour?

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Cold Old posted:

Marty McFly's Speakers
Those speakers are insane. Are they seriously 7' tall with 30 or so tweaters in each front channel?

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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I've been meaning to post pictures of my setup in here for a while but I really want to get something to help clean up wires in my rack first. I recently added a 4th TV to my house and the wiring is so confusing that I decided to make a diagram.

Everything in the bottom half of the diagram is in the basement. The A/V rack is in a closet under the stairs so it's out of view. A few reasons for this:

* I hate the sound of spinning hard drives in the DVRs- especially in the bedroom.
* I don't want to pay additional monthly fees to DirecTV for more receivers.
* I like having equipment hidden away out of sight

Overview of how it works:

* The projector in the basement can view any source (except the Wii).
* The living room TV can view everything but the 2nd DirecTV receiver.
* The 4x2 HDMI switch will show any of its 4 input sources simultaneously on 2 outputs if you want. Anything going into it can be to both outputs simultaneously or just one at a time.
* The other two upstairs TV's can only see what's on the 2nd DirecTV receiver.
* IR signals are relayed with the inexpensive X10 Powermid IR-> RF transmitters.
* A Sony RM-VL600 remote in each room. They're about $25 each and incredibly powerful.

Initially I thought I would have a lot of issues since the HDMI cabling is so long and split all over the place, especially where the coupler is in place. However, everything works perfectly- I love HDMI. All of the wiring and switches came from Monoprice. I also thought I would have a problem with the Xbox 360 controllers (wireless) but they work great through the floor.

I wish I would have given it a second more of thought and instead of the 1:2 splitter gotten a 1:4 so that all TV's in the house could be on DirecTV #2 for something such as a Super Bowl party. This can always be added later though.


falz
Jan 29, 2005

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I re-did the wiring in my rack from the above diagram and took a few pictures. The rack is a wall mount type and isn't intended to pivot, but I unscrewed a few screws one one side and it pivots quite nicely. The bottom shelf is made out of wood in a nice ghetto fashion but it works fine. Also my Popcorn Hour is almost comically mounted- I really hate AV equipment that is tiny like that. Ideally I will have a shelf for each item in the rack and no longer have the DirecTV DVR's stacked, although heat has not been an issue for them.

The last pic is currently unused A/V stuff, as well as the IR transmitter that receives from all locations in the house. At some point in the future I will get this UPS which will make the power wires look a lot nicer and double as a shelf.

I'll take some pictures of the actual viewing areas soon.







falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Having multiple DVRs is the only way to watch different shows on different TV's. Even though they have two tuners, they have no way to output things on tuner 1 to different outputs than tuner 2. Some models of Dish Network's DVRs can do this, but not DirecTV.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Finally took some pictures of viewing areas to go along with the AV rack and flowchart above.

Living Room- since moving most of the AV stuff downstairs I can't figure out to put on the stand, hence the baskets. (Onkyo TX-SR705, Samsung HL61A750 LED DLP, Polk Audio RM Series II 5.1):




4 season porch. Weird mixture of a room that's still being worked on. The TV, pub table and chairs are new so this room has been used more lately:




Basement. I should probably paint the ceiling not-white at some point, but it will be a pain in the rear end so it probably won't happen any time soon.
Downstairs projector (Optoma HD70):




Screen (Monoprice 108"):






Aliens 1 sheet:


Star wars poster signed by David Prowse (Vader), Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) and Jeremy Bulloch (Real Boba Fett) when there was a "behind the masks" signing thing. Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker were originally supposed to be there but they were off filming the Phantom Menace

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Fatty_McLumpkin posted:

you ever think of color matching the screen casing to the wall?
I have thought about it, but the main thing I'd want to do this to is the white wiring part to the right. The screen casing thing really doesn't look that bad since the rest of the room still has white accents (ledge on right, footboard). The screen is almost always down though so it's not a big deal.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Candleshire posted:

Cleaned it up a little!
I'll assume that your speakers are shielded or your hard drive would have already been wiped. How many times has your laptop fallen?

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Run the wires nicely with Velcro or Zip Ties. Spool up excess cable closer to the device it's coming from. Try to find a spot for the power strip, possibly under your entertainment center or behind one of your speakers. Or just put your DVD's on the bottom instead of in the towers.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Looks nice, power strip even seems in order.

Moving the speakers seems much more applicable to Godinster a few posts ago. If poxin did it it would look pretty terrible.

Edit: s/jonathan/poxin/

falz fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Feb 5, 2011

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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jonathan posted:

Huh ? I have 13 devices and 1 visible cord (tv power/hdmi). It's hardly a terrible setup. Either way, keeping the fronts on the same level is fairly important. I find it really distracting when the center channel emits sound from way up or below the rest of the sound.
Whoops, I listed the wrong name- I was talking about poxin's pictures. Every time I've set my own systems up I've always had the center below the TV, L/R speakers centered vertically with the screen and it's always sounded fine.

If poxin moved his fronts up I think it would look strange. Visual appeal seems like a decent trade off to me.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Be sure to check out Sony remotes like the RM-VL600 or whatever its current version is. $25 and it will do everything- just takes a while to program. Also apparently theres a newer harmony 300 (i think) thats much cheaper than the others but can still do the same stuff, just has no screen.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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'Classic' barely goes back to 16 bits? I'm old.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Wow you'd think that would do something bad, like fry your amp.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Monoprice has a variety of things. I've been waiting for this UPS to come back in stock for a long time now.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Probably get a wall mount rack + shelves? Monoprice has cheap shelves, but their wall mount racks would be too small. Something like:

Shelf ($18/ea): http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=8629

Rack ($110): (can be assembled as 8u/12u/22u, your choice): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816228075

Edit: or spend a little more and get one that swivels away from the wall so you can access cabling easier. Will of course require more space when swiveling. This is what I have and it's convenient (I need to swap out that ghetto wooden shelf still)






falz fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Aug 1, 2012

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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The monoprice shelves could also be directly screwed in to a wall. I wouldn't think they'd line up with 16" studs, you may have to attach plywood. paint it, then attach them.

For IR, I just use these cheap X10 things. They work mostly OK. The reason I use those is because I already had some RCA versions of them and they were compatible. Monoprice has some stuff like this as well + wired IR. Volume has never been an issue for me, I rely on my ears for that. Some newer receivers will do OSD over HDMI output as well.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Unsure the brand of the rack, I snagged it off of the wall of a company that went out of business a few years back. There's a few 50' HDMI runs (monoprice) and one is 65' or so using this hdmi extender which surprisingly works fine. That rack runs a few TVs. Looks like I missed the extender in the diagram below when I created it- oh well.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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dreesemonkey posted:

I have a boner.

What's the "coupler"? Did you have to fiddle with your DTV box IR channels to not get interference from each other? And does your DTV box pass signal over HDMI and component simutaneously? (i.e. watch tv on basement projector and patio at the same time?)
Yes, it outputs component and HDMI simultaneously. The coupler is this thing- I have no idea how it works, but it does work just fine. There's no IR issues, the DirecTV DVRs allow at least two (but maybe four?) unique IR "channels".

If I had to change something, I would swap out my 4x2 HDMI switch for the 4x4 HDMI switch and eliminate the component run and the 1x2 splitter. Since I have four sources and four TVs, I could watch any source on any TV, or all simultaneously (would be awesome for a Super Bowl party). The 4x2 splitter does allow the same features, just fewer outputs.

I drew up that image to help me visualize how the hell to hook everything up. It definitely helped.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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dreesemonkey posted:

Thanks for the explanation. I guess you need to have harmonies and IR repeaters in each location to be able to switch signals? That 4x4 switch is pretty awesome, I don't think I'd need something as complex as that but might as well for the price.

I think the most helpful thing for me would be getting another satellite box so we could at least watch two separate things wherever we wanted in the house. Centralizing this stuff seems to make a lot of sense, plus it's freaking super cool!
I do have IR repeaters in all locations, but not fancy remotes. I have Sony RM-VL600's in every room. There's a few newer versions of it now (RM-VLZ620) but for ~$20, it can control everything nicely.

The best thing about them is the component select buttons such as DVD, TV, etc. Quick press to tell the remote to control that device, long press to execute a macro. As long as your macros are proper, all of my stuff is wife friendly in that long press on 'DVD' will send a macro to switch to discrete input for DVD, send discrete power on, etc etc. It does take a few seconds, but if anything is ever screwed up you simply hold the button again. Programming can be complex so I created a google doc spreadsheet to help remind me if I ever have to do it. To me that's worth saving $100 for each viewing location in the house or carrying one fancy remote all over the place.

poo poo now I think I'm going to pick up a RM-VLZ620 for $25 to see if it's as good since they added a few more buttons. I dislike almost everything Sony makes now except their budget-ish remotes.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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The range on the controllers is pretty decent. The 360 is pretty much always being used either in the basement/projector room where it's nearby, or the living room which is directly above. At worst it's about 20' away through two walls and has never been problematic at all. MS did a good job using whatever RF tech they're using.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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I'm not familiar with High Speed HDMI, I think my stuff is HDMI 1.3 mostly though.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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1080p definitely works fine on the longer run of mine in that diagram (Living room TV)

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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There's chat about racks and shelves on the previous page, including some links to some on monoprice.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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If you want the best cheap remote, sony vlz620 for $25. Just takes a while to program. Or pay double on eBay and get a harmony 650 new.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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zfleeman posted:

Just wanted update and say this remote is working famously with my setup. The Sony RMVLZ620.

Seconding this as long as you have some time to spend programming it. Main drawback (compared to previous Sony remotes such as the 600) is it's super picky when learning ir.

The main benefit of the Sony's is they're super cheap and you can program a macro in to the component select button that will properly switch you to that mode 100% if you program it right (discrete on codes, etc). Very girlfriend/in law friendly.

Also check out the Harmony 650. Although I've never used it, folks seem to like it and its on sale for $50 frequently.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Could you put the TV on the wall opposite the window?

Flip flop the couch and tv in this diagram. The couch wouldn't interfere with light.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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sellouts posted:

8-12' viewing distance is 27-36" screen size? Is that a joke?

You'd want to be that far away if it were a 30"+ CRT I suppose.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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I have the same "under the stairs" setup with multiple 50' HDMI feeds. I used whatever monoprice cables and they were fine. Hell one of them is extended another 10' or so using a magic passive coupler thing.

Look at their 4*2 and 4*4 HDMI matrix switches while doing this if you have multiple displays. And the ir extenders that pop on the end of HDMI cables.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Electric Bugaloo posted:

AWESOME thank you. To paraphrase from the site, I’m kinda in love with this media cabinet those back plates and secret wheels are loving brilliant.

Pricing seems to require inquiring with a dealer, I’m curious what you guys paid for it?

Also curious ballpark, there are a few dealers in my town but who wants to actually go out in public!?

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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I'm just surprised he didn't find a black Wii instead. Also what's it there for, retro emulation or grandma wanting to play Wii bowling?

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falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Ps5 is ridiculous in appearance and size, they weren't dumb enough to make it wider (laid sideways as it should be) than a standard av received did they?

The Xbox is just thicc but not really big.

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