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Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

DoktorLoken posted:

So my 46" ST30 from Amazon was shattered by their shipping monkeys. At any rate, gently caress buying a TV from Amazon Warehouse deals. It has been nothing but a pain in the rear end from the point of receiving it and finally having the idiots come get the broken one today.

Instead, I wound up paying $670 locally for a 42" ST30 which while expensive for the size is more appropriate for my small apartment anyway. I've had the 42" for a week and it is beautiful now that it is just about broken in. Highly recommended.

That is why I like my local stores better. I would be worried about receiving it broken then waiting another week to get it.

Got my 50 " st30 a few weeks ago and I love it. I did my break in slides for a few days and set it up.

This tv has such a beautiful picture.

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Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

The Gunslinger posted:

What did you use to break it in? I'm leaning towards getting that TV soon.

use this http://www.vaytan.com/temp/BreakIn_Images.zip

Then follow this.


http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthread.php?9134-2011-Panasonic-Settings-Issues-Thread

They recommend 100 hours of this but I could not wait that long. I did this maybe every other day overnight.

Just make sure you run movies and videos in Full screen for the 100 hours. Seems like a lot of people recommend that.

And trust me this TV is well worth it. And I got a great price here in Canada for it too.

Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

CitizenKain posted:

AVSForum is just crazy and makes shopping for something far more difficult then it needs to be. For all the good information on there, it can be hidden behind a wall of crazy.

I have to agree they tend to be crazy on a lot of stuff there. There was one guy on there with a Sharp Quattron and he returned like 4 or 5 sets because he could see clouding on it.

He posted screen shots and I could barely see anything. They tend to be very very nitpicky on there.

But you do get a lot of good info at times.

Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

a shameful boehner posted:

I don't mean to re-ask a question that's probably been asked a million times already, but I'd like to ply this thread for some recommendations on an HDTV for my parents. They're still stuck on an old CRT tube, and I'd like to get them a nice flatscreen for a reasonable price.

My budget is no more than $700, and I'd prefer LCD/LED, bigger the better.

Are there any sets which I should definitely stay away from? Any sets in particular around that price range that are recommended? I've been looking at some of the 42" LGs lately for around $600, but I'm wondering if there are better options out there.

All in all , I doubt it matters on brands anymore. My last TV which was a Sony 3LCD rear Projection lasted only 5 years before the colour module went crazy 3 weeks ago. I have seen dynex TV's outlast
major brand name ones and so forth.

They don't make TV's like the CRT's anymore. I have a 20 year old 19 " Sony that works like charm still and also a 32 " GAOO for my classic gaming section.


LG's offer GREAT bang for the buck. There are lots of great panels out there for under 700$

Or you can do what I did for my parents , picked up a nice 46 " Dynex for under 500$ and tossed in a 4 year extended warranty.

Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

a shameful boehner posted:

Thanks for the reply! So really there aren't any particular budget brands to stay away from?

What about RCA? Seems like everyone has a tv brand nowadays.

All in all I think they are the same. ( budget brands ) They might even come out of the same factory ;)

As for RCA I have not seen them much around myself. My Parents used to have a old CRT one and it was all wood and built like a brick poo poo house.

The way I see it is if a TV nowadays last's you 5 + years at under 500 bucks your laughing.

Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

Capnbigboobies posted:

To save you the trouble, all of them will have backlight bleed to some degree. The two at the store I have seen had it and so did the one I bought and returned. Its a flaw of edge lit sets. They have blooming, light bleed and flashlighthing.

I dont want to be annoying, but I have been bagging on this tv for the past 10 pages or so. I read the amazon reviews and jumped right on it and a few days later shipped it back. I agree with Trickstand's feeling on the tv.

DoktorLoken is right the ST30/GT30/VT30 are great tv's. The only issue really is the changing brightness levels which Panasonic will fix for free.


Just make sure you get a newer build ! Anything after June or July has the new board in it.

Mine is a Nov. Build so no problems. And yes this TV kicks rear end. ( ST30 that is. )

Got mine at visions with 4 year extended warranty and 2 3d glasses 1200 bucks.

Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

Jewce posted:

I'm trying to help my friend answer this same question. I asked him about plasma, specifically the ST30, but he is pretty set on LED.

Right now he is looking at a Westinghouse LD4080, but AVS forums don't seem to keen on it. Should I push the ST30 harder? He watches a lot of ESPN and does leave it on sometimes so I'm hesitant to push that one.

I don't know what his total budget is, but I expect he wants to stay right around $400-600.

You will never have burn in on newer plasmas. You might have Image Retention for a little , but that will go away fast. Just make sure pixel wobble is on. I have had mine for a few weeks now and seen a little IR here and there but it never lasts long.

I did 8 hours of Battlefield 3 a few times and no problems at ALL ! For plasmas the critical time is the first 100 - 150 hours of the panel life. For those times it is suggested you watch in Fullscreen.

I looked at both LED and Plasmas and I found the picture far more pleasing on my ST30.

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Vaytan
Dec 17, 2011

The Gunslinger posted:

You have to really abuse a plasma in unconventional ways to get burn in. Like leaving a static image running for 8 hours a day for every day. You can still get temporary image retention but that's easily taken care of with built in software tools. Hell many people never even notice it in the first place as normal viewing habits usually ensure you don't encounter it. Many gamers own plasmas and have no issues, just leave the pixel shuffler feature on or alternatively run the screen wipe app that most plasmas have every now and then.

My ST30 has a slight defect that Panasonic is sending out a repair tech for but the actual picture quality is without a doubt the best I could have gotten for the money.

And when and if you get IR it is so light it is hardly noticeable. And it goes away within a few minutes.
Did a good 6 hour session of BF3 and not even 1 problem.

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