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Wilkins Micawber posted:This guy here? I even have an old battery powered headphone amp (somewhere) so, hell yeah! Either one is probably fine. The Taishan’s like a decade old at this point, I only recommended it because I have one for the purpose of connecting my 4K TV to vintage receivers but I think it tops out at CD quality (so no streaming Tidal thru your TV I guess, if that’s even a thing)
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So, this one should do the job, right? It has a volume knob and some good reviews. Heck, it even comes with the wires. I am a bit concerned that listening to headphones and tv simultaneously will make an audio lag thing happen which would suck for me, the headphone user. Also I'm not totally sure if we can still change the TV volume with the remote or not. But I think it will work with our setup.
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Maybe check to make sure your TV can do optical and use the speakers at the same time
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Sorry I think I misspoke. If it's working right it should be going through my headphones and simultaneously, go via RCA into our bookshelf woofer/2 speakers. Edit: I do not, however, have a "PCM" setting to switch the TV to, as depicted in the little video in the product listing Wilkins Micawber fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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Wilkins Micawber posted:Sorry I think I misspoke. If it's working right it should be going through my headphones and simultaneously, go via RCA into our bookshelf woofer/2 speakers. Oh, then you can split the RCA and go to a headphone amp. You don't need to use optical.
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I'll still be using optical to go from the TV to the DAC, and then RCA to the speaker. Anyway, I bought it, I hope it works, and 
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Can one of you's guys recommend a portable/outdoor/indoor speaker that has both bluetooth and aux-in connectivity? If it has an AC in that would be great too, although it's not that important. Ideally it should be clear, fairly powerful and have good non-farty bass response.
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Oldstench posted:Can one of you's guys recommend a portable/outdoor/indoor speaker that has both bluetooth and aux-in connectivity? If it has an AC in that would be great too, although it's not that important. Ideally it should be clear, fairly powerful and have good non-farty bass response.
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I have the small JBL in our shower and the tallboy sized one for our backyard and am happy with both of em
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I've got a Sony SRS-XB33 that's shockingly good. Probably more than we need for our patio tbh. Looks like they're getting replaced and are on clearance at Best Buy.
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qirex posted:What’s your budget? Dogen posted:I have the small JBL in our shower and the tallboy sized one for our backyard and am happy with both of em Endless Mike posted:I've got a Sony SRS-XB33 that's shockingly good. Probably more than we need for our patio tbh. Looks like they're getting replaced and are on clearance at Best Buy. e: hmm - a review I watched shows that the aux-in was removed to add Bluetooth 5.0 support. Does yours have an aux-in? Thanks all. Oldstench fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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For the future, consider a setup like mine. My AVR is 7.1, but you can also do 5.1 and run the other two channels somewhere else in "multi zone". So I have two outdoor speakers mounted under the eve of my house that run back to the AVR. They are Klipsch AW-400's, got em on the cheap in an open box deal (cheaper than I realized, just checked my email and I only paid 125 CAD for them). Control my Onkyo from my phone, it does bluetooth but there are a bunch of other ways you can use them, though it will only accept 2 channel input to the second zone. It can also be used while the main 5.1 is running something else as well.
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Oldstench posted:Trying to keep it under $150 if possible. Mine does, yeah. I got it earlier this year, so I don't know how ubiquitous the revised version is.
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Oldstench posted:Trying to keep it under $150 if possible. worth picking up a cheapo $29 ANKER one for beater purposes
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Ok Comboomer posted:worth picking up a cheapo $29 ANKER one for beater purposes Yep, Soundcore 2 is a really great option for $40. Get two of the upgraded version and you can do stereo pairing over BT (though just 1 sounds great on its own).
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Oldstench posted:Not sure which models you're talking about but I can't find one with aux-in. Ugh, the larger one has since had the aux in deleted. Sorry!
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Picked up the Anker Soundcore 2. Sounds surprisingly good for its size. I see you can pair 2, but I can't find if that works when using the aux-in. Does anyone who has one know if this is possible?
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Success with my TV headphone/speaker situation. The device seems to work, and this one even has knobs! But there is some minor buzz before I plug in the power cable and after I do, MUCH buzz. Now, we have basically all the stuff jammed there on the shelf. In order of stuff, it's like this: Left speaker | switch dock | this device | quest 2 | subwoofer (!) | some games | right speaker There's a bunch of wires and whatnot strewn throughout and a shelf above (and an inch of Ikea plywood) has a Wii, 360, Kinect, retron, vcr, etc. So before I call the device a dud I'm gonna try moving around some wires in case it's interference. Guessing a DAC can pick up a lot of that, especially from a subwoofer.  
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Oh and it could def be the allegedly poo poo quality of the optical cable it came with, too
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Wilkins Micawber posted:Success with my TV headphone/speaker situation. The device seems to work, and this one even has knobs! But there is some minor buzz before I plug in the power cable and after I do, MUCH buzz. Sounds like AC interference. That's probably either a ground loop or an unshielded low-voltage (RCA) cable acting as an antenna. Unplug cables until it stops. Replace that cable. If that doesn't work, make sure everything that is plugged in together is all on the same power strip. Are you powering the DAC with USB or with an AC adapter? Wilkins Micawber posted:Oh and it could def be the allegedly poo poo quality of the optical cable it came with, too It definitely could not. KillHour fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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AC adapter. It's all on the same power strip, I believe. I think the TV itself may be plugged into the wall directly. I'll mess around with it some more tomorrow, thank you for the advice/possible explanation
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Everything is working fine and there is no hum or lag or anything. It is great. BUT There is no way to control the speaker volume with the TV remote anymore, is there? When the TV was directly hooked to the speakers, you could control them with the remote. If I hit "mute" now, it just mutes the TV but the speakers keep playing. I'm gonna dick around in the tv settings but I think this might come down to the TV itself, as I'd feared. I can draw a diagram if I am unclear  edit: I can switch the TV output to optical to disable the speakers but still can't control volume with the remote. That's a step in...some direction. Gonna keep flailing Wilkins Micawber fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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Blugh I think I'm way over my head So I have this DAC and it doesn't seem to fit the bill. This same company, for basically the same price, offers this other DAC with a remote. It has no knobs on it, but as long as it controlled the TV (and therefore speaker) volume, I might be able to remedy that with an in-line headphone remote. But I don't think my partner would go for having to use a separate remote just for volume. And on top of that, this tv STILL doesn't have a PCM option, so I have doubts about this working at all to begin with. Probably just going to return the DAC I have. Then curl up in a ball and cry. edit: maybe a DAC with ARC? This tv has ARC. PLease kill me, end me, now Wilkins Micawber fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Sep 13, 2022 |
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How about an hdmi audio extractor that has an optical output you can connect the dac you have to? There's the occasional hdmi switch with one built in too of you need this to work with multiple sources without unplugging.
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This thing, right here. This should do it, right?  I'd have to unplug my 360, but it would go like this: HDMI from the back of the TV, into the ARC/HDMI port on this device. We would have the RCA from the speakers going into the device as well as the headphones. Both speakers and headphones will play simultaneously and since there is no volume control, the headphones volume will be done via in-line remote and the TV itself will still control the speakers with the TV remote as normal. And all of the TV's HDMI inputs will play audio through this weird ARC reactor thing. And this will work. I think I smell toast. edit: haha! Yes ^^^ yes!! 
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That looks neat if it works as advertised. I only have experience with extractors that would go between console and tv, siphoning off audio before it reaches the tv in the first place.
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I predict that nothing under $50 will actually work the way you want it to. The optical output of your TV is fixed volume and the analog isn't. You are asking to support a weird use case [headphones and speakers at the same time with separate volume control] so you're getting a lot of weird options.
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qirex posted:I predict that nothing under $50 will actually work the way you want it to. The optical output of your TV is fixed volume and the analog isn't. You are asking to support a weird use case [headphones and speakers at the same time with separate volume control] so you're getting a lot of weird options. assuming your TV can do optical + internal speakers at the same time (most can, in my experience), OP’s best bet is an optical out to some kind of DAC+headphone amp (either built in or separate), with the TV’s onboard speakers providing sound for the partner. if the TV can’t do both, then you’d have to go from an optical DAC to a splitter to two amplification sources (ie one receiver with speakers and something to drive the headphones) with their own volume knobs
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Sounds kinda like OP wants a mixer? My old job had one that had multiple outputs and separate volume knobs for each, and some button for source volume shenanigans iirc. However it wasn't hooked up to a TV, but seemed like it would work as desired. However I have a feeling it would be a lot more than like $30.
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Mightn't the last one I posted do the job? The weird ARC one. I know it has no vol knob like Qirex says, but I think it strips the audio out via hdmi (and converts to analog) so the TV should still control the speakers. And like I said, an in-line remote on the headphone wire should control it's volume independently. And the TV settings have an option for ARC, which seems like a positive. Partner NEEDS to be able to hear audio from speakers and control it with remote. Yeah I know it's a dumb use case. But I like headphone gaming and she very much doesn't, and we don't yet have a receiver It's already a tooth-pull getting her to give up one of the inputs on the TV for such a device. Provided this works, I think I don't need the DAC and can return it.
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Wilkins Micawber posted:Mightn't the last one I posted do the job? The weird ARC one. I know it has no vol knob like Qirex says, but I think it strips the audio out via hdmi (and converts to analog) so the TV should still control the speakers. And like I said, an in-line remote on the headphone wire should control it's volume independently. And the TV settings have an option for ARC, which seems like a positive. Remind us again what your budget is?
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Cheap, sub-$50.
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Imo it could work, but it's a bit janky that you'd only be able to adjust volume in headphones downwards with the inline remote. If you want the sound to be louder in your headphones, you can't do it directly, only by adjusting the tv volume up and then presumably adjusting the speakers down to compensate. This could be a non-problem or something you need to do just once during setup. But it's not elegant.
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Wilkins Micawber posted:Cheap, sub-$50. ok, cool. You mention not having a receiver at home. Do you have powered speakers at home? PC speakers?
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Wilkins Micawber posted:Mightn't the last one I posted do the job? The weird ARC one. I know it has no vol knob like Qirex says, but I think it strips the audio out via hdmi (and converts to analog) so the TV should still control the speakers. And like I said, an in-line remote on the headphone wire should control it's volume independently. And the TV settings have an option for ARC, which seems like a positive. I assume the HDMI ARC will have a fixed volume, that's how it is on my TV. The ARC is connected to an AV receiver, the volume on the TV is muted and I control the volume on the receiver.
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Saukkis posted:I assume the HDMI ARC will have a fixed volume, that's how it is on my TV. The ARC is connected to an AV receiver, the volume on the TV is muted and I control the volume on the receiver.
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Ok Comboomer posted:ok, cool. You mention not having a receiver at home. Do you have powered speakers at home? PC speakers? No reciever, it's like a 2.1 bookshelf setup, just using a 3.5mm (or the 3.5mm->RCA splitter I got yesterday, if need be) They are pretty old speakers, probably from the 2000s. The subwoofer has all the plugs, of which there are very few. Thanks for all the input folks, this is all honestly v helpful. Whatever I go with probably won't be too elegant, but I'm hoping the ARC thingy might at least cut it.
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That thing is very unlikely to work for you. First, ARC doesn't have a volume control directly. Instead, it uses another protocol called CEC to control the volume on the device it's connected to (usually a receiver or soundbar). It is unlikely that the ARC dongle thingy you posted has an internal volume control that receives CEC commands. It's possible, but very unlikely. Secondly, even if it did do that somehow, you would have the most frustrating experience with volume - every time your partner changes the volume on the TV, it would change your volume as well. So if she turned it up, you would have to turn it back down to compensate. If your volume was on max and she turned it down, your headphones are going quieter too no matter what you want because you can't adjust the volume back up. I presume the reason you want headphones is because you want it much louder than her (because that's the only thing I can think of that makes any sense - if you wanted it quieter, headphones wouldn't really do that), so that would be a problem. But more likely, like I said, she will have no volume control whatsoever except for physically walking to the speakers and adjusting them. I cannot think of anything that does what you want to do in a single box for your budget. Mostly because the requirement of having two people listen to the same thing in the same room but with different listening devices and also needing independent remote volume control is... not common. Edit: I am 99% sure that your TV can't do both ARC and RCA audio out at the same time, in case that is what you are thinking. KillHour fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Sep 14, 2022 |
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Wilkins Micawber posted:No reciever, it's like a 2.1 bookshelf setup, just using a 3.5mm (or the 3.5mm->RCA splitter I got yesterday, if need be) They are pretty old speakers, probably from the 2000s. The subwoofer has all the plugs, of which there are very few. TV—>optical to $20 DAC—> to RCA or 3.5mm splitter plus whatever RCA/3.5mm adapters are necessary for==>1) PC speakers for partner 2) RCA or 3.5mm headphone amp for Wilkins Micawber, if not just a passive gain knob
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