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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


these two very similar things are actually nothing like each other. no I will not even begin to attempt to articulate how or why but you’re a horrible person if you don’t immediately see my line of reasoning and agree with me

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Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

I can’t believe I have to explain why I’m literally accusing miura of being a pedo who jacks it to his own child drawings, and you all won’t blindly agree with me.

Billzasilver fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Nov 14, 2019

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few



The Italian Renaissance is entirely cancelled.

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Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Congrats you're really nailing the point

CAROL
Oct 29, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Expect My Mom posted:

I'm honestly really weirded out by how everyone else is weirded out, the newest chapter of Duranki did not phase me at at all. Maybe it's because I'm used to Japanese works using nudity as representations of purity or that Japanese families regiar;y bathe with their children into their 10's and 11s, but I really found nothing objectionable. Usum's body is clearly a plot point so to claim that Miura and his assistants are just "drawing one handed" is really dumb

There are like three million shots of the Moth demon girl's butt, her breast and nipples are always exposed and always fog covering her thighs man, come on, don't have a selective memory about this

You’re a creep dude

The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008

Solice Kirsk posted:

If you guys wanna see a whole bunch of weirdos trying to defend borderline child porn you can head over to the Berserk thread in ADTRW. Not a saga yet, but gently caress that place and everyone in it.

First gets posted here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2538641&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=327

and really picks up the last couple of pages

Be warned that the whole comic is basically an excuse to draw naked 12 year olds playing in mud and bathing together. But really it's me who's wrong about it because I read a manga that had dead naked kids in it back in 1997 and the Greeks drew naked babies or something, I don't even know.

That was fast.

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

They're not wrong. This is the only ADTRW thread I've ever followed and of course you guys start defending child nudity.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

If yall want to talk about Duranki can you do it elsewhere? I just want to follow this one problematic manga and hiatus boat post in peace.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

lol gently caress man, saw so many posts and I wanted another Berserk chapter but uh :yikes:

Anyway, is there any final word on just how bad the sales were for the recent animated series blurays/dvds because I remember reading something about how its sales (globally, too) were especially and deservedly abysmal

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
actually this is about hebephilia

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


I just think it’s extremely weird if you see, like, a kid in a bathtub or something and immediately think “this is porn”, it doesn’t even register to me as something sexual. it’s like, did ya’ll react this way to baby Goku too?
maybe I just don’t watch enough creepy hentai poo poo for this convo.

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Augus posted:

I just think it’s extremely weird if you see, like, a kid in a bathtub or something and immediately think “this is porn”, it doesn’t even register to me as something sexual. it’s like, did ya’ll react this way to baby Goku too?
maybe I just don’t watch enough creepy hentai poo poo for this convo.

Idk growing up in my neck of the woods in America nudity in media was pretty much always exploitative outside of "high" art in museums and poo poo. I know this isn't true everywhere but it's true in enough places that it's not crazy to immediately associate it with fanservicing, especially in context.

Also the duranki poo poo is a little more than "kid in a bathtub"

This conversation makes me extremely uncomfortable though when I can just consume media that doesn't have naked kids in it and I don't have to think about whether or not it's bad or exploitative

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I just don't see why anyone thinks Miura should be given the benefit of the doubt after his last side project.


Little girl pee was a goddamn plot point, that should have been enough for 100% of yall to say "hey maybe he should stick to just fantasy monsters getting demolished"

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I know people feel uncomfortable about all the butt shots, but I think that's only part of what puts people off. There's something about the design of the kids, they feel more realistic than most anime kids. For example, you see ribs showing on their skinny bodies.

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




starting to feel like i was being a bit naive earlier. i balked at banning duranki chat earlier because imo berserk contains worse content, but i'm getting the feeling my perspective is off.

well, whatever happens, i just hope this doesn't kill the thread. one time i went to reddit to see what their berserk discussions were like and it was just filled with gross donovan jokes

Laputanmachine
Oct 31, 2010

by Smythe
One thing that really bugs me here is how every critic here instantly and automatically draws parallels between Duranki and every fanservice/hentai series out there. I'm not an expert on art or communicating through images but even I can see a definite discrepancy between this series and, say, Negima for the sake of example since it was already mentioned. In Negima almost every shot of any girl (= member of the protag's harem), especially in the more ecchi scenes, is explicitly meant to titillate; the scenes more or less forcefully expose the character, especially for the protagonist (who is very much meant to be the reader's avatar), the angles, the framing, it all serves that one purpose only.

In Duranki, the reader's view is more of an observer; we see how Usumgallu is trying to come to terms with who they are and is unsure how their new friends are going to react if/when they find out. In the bath scene where they join their friends we see the reaction of one of the boys but even that is not the usual anime blush/nosebleed or whatever. The boy is unsure of his reaction and it serves to bring more tension to the story and to the group dynamic. I'm as white and nerdy and cis as a goon can be and I think it's great there's a manga from a high-profile artist that tackles this. Could it be told with less bare butts? Yeah, but the situation underlines the reactions the characters have and as I said, the point of view here is different. There is way less male gaze here, or at least it's in a different form than in your regular fanservice crap.

Of course, there's still plenty of opportunities for Miura to gently caress this all up spectacularly, but up to this point Duranki looks like a pretty good adventure story with a non-binary protagonist.

And finally, if any of you really have a problem with this and don't want to talk about it, go tell the mods about it and then shut up. Don't go rubbing your ego by crowing how morally superior you are in some other part of the forums. It just shows how insecure you are about all of this and maybe you should talk about it to someone professional.

I Love Annie May
Oct 10, 2012

The_White_Crane posted:

That was fast.

lmao solice you're a bastard snitch

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U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




ah i see it's in qcs too

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

Billzasilver posted:



The Italian Renaissance is entirely cancelled.

lol this is the most bad faith poo poo i’ve ever seen.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


okay looking back at it yeah the art of the kid covered in mud in the latest chapter is a bit much, ew

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PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
I long for the days of rapehorse, adult attacks, and dick monsters.

More. Sword. Porn.

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