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Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

The Walrus posted:

long shot but would any us folks be able to buy a few of these and ship to Canada for Cleo? Finding it impossible to find an equivalent product that I can buy here.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00416I40M


edit: I can of course throw you some cash to make it worth your time

Silly question but wouldn't a regular ice pack achieve the same general purpose ?

Anyway, pictures:


A moment of respite. A chance to steel oneself against the coming horrors.




Towering, fierce, terrible. Nightmare made material!

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anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Say 'Thank you, Ershin'.

Say it.




Even the bunny can't believe the horror it unleashed on the world.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002




Fun Shoe

Sassy Sasquatch posted:

Silly question but wouldn't a regular ice pack achieve the same general purpose ?

Anyway, pictures:


A moment of respite. A chance to steel oneself against the coming horrors.




Towering, fierce, terrible. Nightmare made material!


Ice packs are pretty thin, a bun could easily chew through. These seem a bit more durable and I haven't read any reviews that mention buns destroying them. Also, the shape of these I can tell my bun will take advantage of. A goon PMed me to help out so thanks!

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002




Fun Shoe

I stood still for too long last night and cleo flopped on my foot. god i love her.


Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



Yo, the wild rabbit population in my area has EXPLODED with the quarantine. Every night I go for a walk with my neighbor and I count probably upwards of forty, fifty rabbits. This area (Boston) always had a lot but now it’s unreal, and they’re super impudent too.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

I'm going to kill myself tomorrow.

Ok Comboomer posted:

Yo, the wild rabbit population in my area has EXPLODED with the quarantine. Every night I go for a walk with my neighbor and I count probably upwards of forty, fifty rabbits. This area (Boston) always had a lot but now it’s unreal, and they’re super impudent too.

Tangential but I work on a now-empty college campus and the squirrels have become depressingly desperate now that there's not the detritus left by students for them to sift for food. One literally walked up to me and put his paw on my shoe and looked up at me like Oliver Twist.

Remora
Aug 15, 2010


I'm not crying, you're crying, shut up

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

I'm going to kill myself tomorrow.

Is there such thing as an angry or scared binky? Sometimes when we roll a toy at Lil or if my wife does spiderhands on the floor near her she binkies around a bunch and we can't tell if it's play or if she hates it so we don't really "play" with her much.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

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No. If Lil was scared, she would run away and hide, not binky.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

I'm going to kill myself tomorrow.

grack posted:

No. If Lil was scared, she would run away and hide, not binky.

That's what originally made us wonder about it, the binkies were sometimes followed by bolting to the other side of the apartment which we thought meant she wanted us to chase her (she would still run right up to us if we followed her). We didn't want to assume that though and just be doggedly pursuing our terrified rabbit through the apartment chucking tennis balls at her.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002




Fun Shoe

if they're not a lop read up on ear position, it will tell you a lot about your rab's mood. Generally if they're feeling adventurous or playful their inner ear will be generally pointed forward, and if they're really curious they'll angle their ears forward entirely like little antennas. If they are scared generally the ears are together, turned sideways, and often flattened back to a degree depending on discomfort level. Also look out for hunching the back or backing into corners. Generally a bun will let you know when they're scared, and also hold a grudge for a while.

That said, just don't roll balls at her too quickly, sometimes we'll gently roll an oxbow timothy hay ball towards cleo but never at her and never too quickly. She should see it coming and not be startled. Same goes for anything else you do - stuff that you do to play with dogs generally won't work with rabbits. Look for some rabbit friendly ways to stimulate her and 'play'. We like to set up mazes in our living room with cardboard boxes and just loves to explore the whole thing, get a feel for the layout, and then figure out the fastest routes through it and practice drifts and maneuverability.

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



^^ all good advice.

A good way to think about playing with rabbits is that dogs and cats are predatory animals and rabbits are prey.

Aggressive play styles that really work with dogs and cats will generally have the opposite effect on rabs.

That said, rabbits are absolutely hip to throw down and they do play aggressively amongst each other/their environment. The difference is that you’re way bigger than a rabbit, and it’s pretty much impossible not to have that dynamic trigger predator avoidance instincts— except for the rare, like, super chad rabbit that boxes strangers’ feet and tackles everything.

That doesn’t happen with dogs/cats, my hunch is that the size difference cements the familial/parental relationship.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

I'm going to kill myself tomorrow.

Unfortunately she's a lop! We mainly were asking because we've had her for a long time and some of her expressions do double or triple duty. She is obsessed with getting her head petted and will often honk the whole time someone is petting her, but then honks exactly the same way when we are trimming her nails which she absolutely despises. We mostly just wanted to know if there were cases where a binky was a fear response since it can also look like she's been startled when she popcorns 3 feet in the air. We also never actually chuck a ball at her! We always roll it slowly and into her line of site.

Bonus picture:

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



RichterIX posted:

Unfortunately she's a lop! We mainly were asking because we've had her for a long time and some of her expressions do double or triple duty. She is obsessed with getting her head petted and will often honk the whole time someone is petting her, but then honks exactly the same way when we are trimming her nails which she absolutely despises. We mostly just wanted to know if there were cases where a binky was a fear response since it can also look like she's been startled when she popcorns 3 feet in the air. We also never actually chuck a ball at her! We always roll it slowly and into her line of site.

Bonus picture:

Does she have a bondmate? Rabbits tend to develop really interesting personalities when they get a good bondmate, and having two rabbits tends to chill them out a lot since multiple rabbits hanging in a spot tends to be a good sign of no predators and also they always have somebody to occupy their attention.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013

shitty freeloader friend


I have a super chad rabbit that will lunge at my face and try to fight strangers and he fuckin LOVES when I chase him around, I think it’s his favorite thing to do and he’ll actually come find me and start nudging my foot and fake running away until I chase him (slowly of course)

Which is to say rabbits are weird, just try stuff until you find something that seems to work. I’d they hate it they’ll make it clear that they’re not happy with whatever you’re doing.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

I'm going to kill myself tomorrow.

Ok Comboomer posted:

Does she have a bondmate? Rabbits tend to develop really interesting personalities when they get a good bondmate, and having two rabbits tends to chill them out a lot since multiple rabbits hanging in a spot tends to be a good sign of no predators and also they always have somebody to occupy their attention.

Unfortunately no (it's a, uh, point of contention in the household), she's very very chill already but I would love to see what she would be like with a bondmate. She's very sweet and just wants you to sit on the floor so she can flop against your leg. She was surrendered to a humane society when she was about 1 and I don't have any idea what her life was like before we got her, but she is the best-behaved rabbit I've ever heard of besides her penchant for phone chargers and leather shoes which is on us not her. That and the fact that she likes to bring hay from her pen out into the apartment and scatter it all over the loving place.

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



RichterIX posted:

Unfortunately no (it's a, uh, point of contention in the household), she's very very chill already but I would love to see what she would be like with a bondmate. She's very sweet and just wants you to sit on the floor so she can flop against your leg. She was surrendered to a humane society when she was about 1 and I don't have any idea what her life was like before we got her, but she is the best-behaved rabbit I've ever heard of besides her penchant for phone chargers and leather shoes which is on us not her. That and the fact that she likes to bring hay from her pen out into the apartment and scatter it all over the loving place.

If y'all are worried about the additional workload/cost/space, graduating from one rab to two is exponentially easier than going from zero rabs to one. It's like with cats, and the spectrum of behaviors it unlocks is super worth it to me. But the load definitely doesn't scale 2x.

Plus you get to do rabbit matchmaking if you do it through your local rabbit rescue, and who doesn't want to meet a bunch of cool buns?

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011


RichterIX posted:

Unfortunately no (it's a, uh, point of contention in the household), she's very very chill already but I would love to see what she would be like with a bondmate. She's very sweet and just wants you to sit on the floor so she can flop against your leg. She was surrendered to a humane society when she was about 1 and I don't have any idea what her life was like before we got her, but she is the best-behaved rabbit I've ever heard of besides her penchant for phone chargers and leather shoes which is on us not her. That and the fact that she likes to bring hay from her pen out into the apartment and scatter it all over the loving place.
She'll be okay if she's an only rabbit. It sounds like she's very friendly with you, and that means she's happy.

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