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Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013

trilobite terror posted:

Speaking from firsthand experience, I’d rather deal with another young rabbit with a casted/splinted broken leg for a month than deal with a post-op bun recovering from head surgery.

Best of luck to both of you :ohdear:

yeah this is why im fine letting them hold onto him for a few more days and get hm mostly good to go and then we'll pick him back up. overall it should be fine. he's back home from his vet appointment today and he's just sleeping but he seemed more active. I'm now slightly worried that the reason he's been slowing down so much over the last few weeks is that he's just in pain, but we're doing what we can so that's allw e can do.

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Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
I will say though we've had him on painkillers for two days now and they drained the fluid out of his ear and all the other concerning behaviors i've seen from him have gone away. I thought it was because his leg was bad but now it seems like his balance was just all hosed up. Poor guy. But he's doing way better already, and he hasn't even had the surgery yet.

Scott Baculum
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase
that’s great to hear, and sounds about right

one of the other rabbits I shared with my ex got an ear infection once and it was terrifying to see him unable to walk, bobbing his head back and forth, and “scanning” (rotating his head and eyes from side to side) rapidly. I thought for sure he was having seizures.

antibiotics, oral appetite enhancer, and a strong veterinary painkiller had him right as rain

arguably better than usual, because he was normally pretty aloof and intolerant of attention/difficult to care for, but he turned into quite the compliant little drug seeker once he figured out that he liked the meds

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Bunny junkie!

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
An excellent forums handle

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Chasing the white... rabbit? ...wait...

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
Ajax is now in jail (boarded and ready for surgery). I feel bad leaving him there but the other option is to leave him at home to be super uncomfortable and unhappy, plus this way he can get surgically fixed and I don't have to deal with his aftercare. I'm hoping his face isn't all hosed up but it sounds like it probably will be. Oh well.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
Fia's had a few nesting incidents even though she's been spayed for over a year, has anyone experienced this? She did it for around a day about half a year ago, but only did it for a little while in her more recent incidents. Vet said it might just be stress, hopefully nothing in the environment is making her feel anxious.

https://i.imgur.com/sEp2KXK.mp4

Bonus begging for grooming at the water bowl

https://i.imgur.com/nExLa5r.mp4

Halloween Jack
Sep 11, 2003

La morte non ha sesso
I really don’t know anything about dealing with that but she’s fuckin’ adorable

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
Ajax update: ear fixed, surgery went well. he is EXTREMELY unhappy with the circumstances, he has a hole in his head and he's gotta wear a cone and they have to rinse the hole out every so often AND he can't even thump because they put him on a bunch of spongey bedding so he doesn't hurt himself. He's going to be a little ball of rage for a week+ but once he heals he'll be great

Scott Baculum
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

Thumbtacks posted:

Ajax update: ear fixed, surgery went well. he is EXTREMELY unhappy with the circumstances, he has a hole in his head and he's gotta wear a cone and they have to rinse the hole out every so often AND he can't even thump because they put him on a bunch of spongey bedding so he doesn't hurt himself. He's going to be a little ball of rage for a week+ but once he heals he'll be great

I’m happy it’s gone well so far. The worst is behind you both. Ajax will probably chill out and adapt in short order, especially if you keep him adequately doped up.

Striker Eureka adapted to her hind leg cast in no time at all, and by the end of the first evening with it on she had her creepy spider-walk down pat and was scrambling from one side of her temp enclosure to the other like a quadruped Metal Gear Ray

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Halloween Jack posted:

I really don’t know anything about dealing with that but she’s fuckin’ adorable

Her hobbies include not wanting us to touch her, and stealing food from her husbun, and getting into grooming loops with him.

https://i.imgur.com/5nCGA74.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/jeMbINb.mp4

Would very much like to get her to enjoy us more, she's pretty skittish with us, but she does love Holland. She is very soft though, when we do get to pet her.

Scott Baculum
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

Momomo posted:

Fia's had a few nesting incidents even though she's been spayed for over a year, has anyone experienced this? She did it for around a day about half a year ago, but only did it for a little while in her more recent incidents. Vet said it might just be stress, hopefully nothing in the environment is making her feel anxious.

https://i.imgur.com/sEp2KXK.mp4

Bonus begging for grooming at the water bowl

https://i.imgur.com/nExLa5r.mp4

Some rabbits just never stop digging Holmes.

It’s an instinct/stimming/positive feedback behavior to a certain extent, moreso than purely a stress response IMO, so don’t feel too bad about your care if she starts doing it more frequently or if they both start.

If she’s digging or nesting in the litter box you might want to try giving her a dig/hide box to occupy her time and energy and give her a place to hunker down in and better satisfy the drive to make a nest/feel secure and some degree of agency if she is being stressed out by something.

If you put a noticeably different kind of bedding/litter in it (or if you’re feeling real old-school you can use play sand or soil, but I don’t advise it for obvious reasons) you might be able to keep her from toileting in there too much.

Some rabbits are rly good about differentiating between the litter box and the dig box and some have no sense of differentiation and will soil both at their convenience, and most exist on some continuum between the two extremes—unless they simply have no litter sense or are incontinent, etc.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Love your little hoppy panda.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Momomo posted:

Fia's had a few nesting incidents even though she's been spayed for over a year, has anyone experienced this? She did it for around a day about half a year ago, but only did it for a little while in her more recent incidents. Vet said it might just be stress, hopefully nothing in the environment is making her feel anxious.

https://i.imgur.com/sEp2KXK.mp4


Rabbits are genetically primed to dig. It's completely normal behaviour. Also, some rabbits just never get used to affection from humans, especially when they're part of a bonded pair.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.
I call it diggies to imply it's kinda like zoomies. It just happens every now and then, like getting into a fey mood in Dwarf Fortress

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
Ajax update: he’s doing better, they put him on critical care but just for weight concerns, he’s still eating fine. He’s apparently much happier now that his ear feels better, even with a hole in his head. Not sure when we can pick him back up but I asked to wait until we don’t have to flush it out anymore just to be safe.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

grack posted:

Rabbits are genetically primed to dig. It's completely normal behaviour. Also, some rabbits just never get used to affection from humans, especially when they're part of a bonded pair.

The digging part isn't what concerns me, it's the nesting, though the vid I posted maybe didn't emphasize that enough. She actually started doing it again today. She seems to have picked the litterbox for her nest this time, last time it was in a box somewhere else in the room. The last couple times she did this, she snapped out of it fairly quick, so hopefully there isn't actually an issue.
https://i.imgur.com/AKTVYwD.mp4

Every online source I've seen for this type of behavior (getting a bunch of hay in their mouths) says it's something only unspayed rabbits do, so that's what got me worried. I asked the vet about it when I last took her in though, and he said it might just be stress.

Scott Baculum
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase
Spayed rabbits can definitely still do it.

FYI: I’m not saying that online rabbit forums like BinkyBunny, etc, are bad per se but I would note that for every person there giving good, scientifically accurate advice, there’s gonna be like five people just talking complete crap out of their assholes, humanizing their animals, spreading outdated or incorrect information, and/or just applying their totally spurious interpretation of what various animal behavior, etc, means. Also a lot of visible mental illness.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Bunnies are cute, but deadly
I have the spicy rona, and now can't interact with Harrison and Hieronymous without mask and gloves, and they don't understand.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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trilobite terror posted:

Also a lot of visible mental illness.

This is different than SA how?

Scott Baculum
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

RFC2324 posted:

This is different than SA how?

it’s not lol

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013

Thumbtacks posted:

Ajax update: he’s doing better, they put him on critical care but just for weight concerns, he’s still eating fine. He’s apparently much happier now that his ear feels better, even with a hole in his head. Not sure when we can pick him back up but I asked to wait until we don’t have to flush it out anymore just to be safe.

Update 2: He's still doing well, still on critical care but he's gained some good weight. Apparently because his ear canal was pretty bad they're still needing to flush it daily after two weeks, on Tuesday the vet will reassess and see. We might be able to get his sutures out before he's even home, which is nice. They upgraded him to a big kennel so he's got like 4x the space he had before so he's much happier and just chilling. This is going to be expensive but that's ok

Scott Baculum
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase
my guy, have you been boarding the rabbit at the vet’s for two weeks? 🫣

Isn’t that like close to like ten thousand dollars?

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
Shouldn’t be too bad, they’re pretty chill. Boarding plus surgery should be close to like 4ish probably but we have insurance that should help. Wasn’t intending to board that long but the alternative is that we have to flush his ear wound out and I am absolutely not going to do that

Halloween Jack
Sep 11, 2003

La morte non ha sesso

RFC2324 posted:

This is different than SA how?
In all seriousness, I avoid some online pet spaces (particularly on Twitter) because people post nothing but sob stories and sometimes post graphic posts of sick, injured, or dead animals. Weirdly, r/rabbits is the least crazy and most informative space I've come across outside SA.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Halloween Jack posted:

In all seriousness, I avoid some online pet spaces (particularly on Twitter) because people post nothing but sob stories and sometimes post graphic posts of sick, injured, or dead animals. Weirdly, r/rabbits is the least crazy and most informative space I've come across outside SA.

I'm in a handful of groups, and the rabbitors(I am in their discord instead of the reddit) are some of the beat, with mods who keep it a happy bunny environment

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Bunnies are cute, but deadly

bunnyofdoom posted:

I have the spicy rona, and now can't interact with Harrison and Hieronymous without mask and gloves, and they don't understand.

Good news! We've recovered and spent a solid hour cuddling with them.


And trying to keep Hieronymous from eating cables.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
he's back! cost me about $4k in total for the surgery and boarding, they knocked some of the price off because everyone loved him and they were using him for stress relief, they gave him his own little office and they would just take turns going in there and hanging out with him.

he's got a lot of meds to take and I have to dilate his ear hole once a day which he is NOT a fan of but he's been zooming around the house all day so I think he's happy to be back.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
update: i was right and he is NOT a fan of hole maintenance but he'll manage for ten days. overall he's doing very well, and we've been holding him more. he also doesn't like that, but he's old and can't do anything about it

Scott Baculum
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

Thumbtacks posted:

Pet Island: House Bunny Thread: update: i was right and he is NOT a fan of hole maintenance

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Bunny thread or trans thread

Halloween Jack
Sep 11, 2003

La morte non ha sesso
I enjoy the confusion.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

Bunnies have certainly achieved peak performance in transitioning hay into cocoa puffs.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
ajax update, hasn't been living at the vet since we got back but unfortunately his ear STILL is healing better than it should be (which in this case is bad) and it keeps scabbing over the hole we're trying to keep open so now as a last resort they basically put a tube in his ear so the hole will seal up around it. poor guy's been basically recovering from surgery since Halloween, and hopefully it should be finished by Christmas. he's a real trooper and he still seems happier than he was when his ear was all hosed up but it sucks that it's taken so long to heal. also costing an arm and a leg, christ

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
second update: he's doing really good. he's started running around a lot and yesterday he was running circles around my legs and honking for food which he hasn't done in like. a year? i'm now very upset that he's maybe felt like poo poo for THAT long, but it's been so nice seeing him back to the way he used to be. makes me feel bad that we didn't address this for so long but we also didn't KNOW.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
christmas update: i've been wrestling with him daily to give him antibiotics and clean out his ear hole and it's FINALLY not trying to close itself. he's basically himself again, he jumped up on the couch yesterday which he hasn't done for years and I think I heard him binky the other day. he's got so much energy and he's doing so good. i love my dumb little man so much :3

also this picture made me laugh

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
I apologize for using this as my personal dump thread but no one else is posting so I will.

January 1st he was officially declared "good to go" and his ear was great, he was fine. Running around and in higher spirits than I've seen him in years. And then about three weeks later on the 22nd his leg completely gave out. Unrelated to any other issues he'd be having, he just suddenly couldn't put any weight on his leg at all so he was just laying on the floor wriggling around. I, of course, panicked and called my vet at midnight who was nice enough to answer and walk me through making him comfortable. Took him in the day after for an emergency appointment, they kept him for a day and ran a bunch of tests and determined that his leg was basically fine? No nerve damage or anything (still muscle waste but it looked healthy). Prescribed some gabapentin for the pain and sent him home.

Now that he can't stand up on his own he's refusing to eat, so we've been just sitting with him on the couch and giving him critical care. Follow up appointment is Wednesday, so far he hasn't really gotten any better. Been having a really terrible and emotional few days, I feel like if his mobility is compromised we should just put him down? But he seems to be mentally fine, although he looks like he's in a bit of pain and it sucks that he can't really move. On the plus side we've gotten a lot more cuddling time with him than we ever did before, and when he's on my lap he's grinding his teeth and basically sleeping so he seems good?

idk what to do really. we'll see what the vet thinks. I know this is mostly fine and everyone eventually deals with this but I hate seeing him like this and, to be selfish, i don't particularly want to do critical care 3-4 times a day. I think we can probably figure out a bedding situation where he'd eat, but right now I just feel so bad watching him. he went from full mobility to absolutely none in like 6 hours. He was fine and then he just couldn't move at all and it's such a bummer. Maybe putting him down might be the right thing to do

Thumbtacks fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jan 28, 2025

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013


1/29, 7:20pm. rest in peace, buddy.

turns out he somehow hurt his spine and ended up with his back legs paralyzed so there wasn't any other option. wish i knew what happened but there wasn't anything we could do. absolutely insane that it was completely unrelated to any of his medical issues, its like he went to the hospital and got hit by a truck on his way out of the building. typical of him to cause chaos up until the last minute.

i loved this little gremlin so much and i always will.

probably my last post here but thank you guys for letting me trauma dump in here. sorry if i made it sad. give all your little guys a hug for me.

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Volkova III
Jan 5, 2021
I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope it stops hurting as soon as possible.

It's coming up on a year since I lost Sidney. That was a rough one, but I'm still going, somehow.

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