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In my experience, there's not really any difference in quality between the big brands at any given price point, but fairly large differences in feeling and (especially at lower prices) piano sound. If you like the Yamaha one, get it. You're not going to miss out on anything another brand offers. But if it's the only digital piano of that price level and age you have played, I'd recommend you find a Kawai/Roland/Casio at a similar price and try those as well. Unless you really like the Yamaha I guess.
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Ani posted:I have a question about buying a digital piano that I didn't see answered in the thread (but of course I may have missed it). My trusty Roland F-90 keyboard is on its way out (I've had it 14 years so, no complaints) and I'd like a replacement. During the pandemic I've been storing a friend's Yamaha CLP-525 which I love, so I think I want to get something of similar quality for myself. Is a similar model Clavinova the recommended best buy or are there other better options at a similar price range? In terms of features, I just play classical music for fun and don't need any fancy voices or anything, just a piano (but one I can plug headphones in so I can play privately). Imho you reallly can't go wrong with the clavinovas. I spent about $2500 on mine, and it both feels and sounds as close as your gonna get to the real thing. Oh sure the more expensive models really do sound better, but I genuinely cant complain about my one.
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Thanks both. I've never played a digital piano (except a bit of tooling around at a piano store) as nice as the Yamaha I am currently using, so I can't say I know that it's better than a Kawai/Roland/Casio of similar quality. Probably worth finding a way to try the alternatives before just pulling the trigger on something.
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Does anyone have experience with the “acoustic based” hybrid pianos? I.e., acoustic pianos that have a digital headphone mode for quiet play at night. Kawai calls them “anytime” pianos. Does the headphone mode still have the right feel on the fingers? Is it actually totally quiet?
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Apropos of beginner piano, these are easy canons aimed at absolute beginners. Always five finger position. The goal is to develop hand independence. I'm up to no. 8. I'd say they're good supplementary material if you're working on something such as Alfred's like me.  https://imslp.org/wiki/200_Short_Two-Part_Canons%2C_Op.14_(Kunz%2C_Konrad_Max) An example canon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNGc0iGDgeE IbrahimSom fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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Nov 19, 2020 03:35
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Me and my small hands have problems with 7th chords. How acceptable is it to leave out the 5th? Makes it much easier to play for me. Exceptions being dims with a flat 5. Am I going to cast out by snobby jazz heads (yes probably no matter what)
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Nov 19, 2020 23:50
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The fifth is usually the least "important" note in a chord, omitting it usually doesnt change the character of 7th very much if at all.
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Nov 20, 2020 00:01
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Nigel Tufnel posted:Me and my small hands have problems with 7th chords. How acceptable is it to leave out the 5th? Makes it much easier to play for me. Exceptions being dims with a flat 5. Root -- 3rd -- 7th is such a common jazz voicing there's a name for it: shell voicings. Check out Bud Powell--he p much developed them
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My 5yo son started piano with a teacher, only had 3 lessons, doesn’t love it but doesn’t hate it either, actually practiced by himself ONCE I’m a beginner piano player myself, what’s the easiest Christmas carol we could pick up for fun and playing together?
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Nov 21, 2020 09:19
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cosmin posted:My 5yo son started piano with a teacher, only had 3 lessons, doesn’t love it but doesn’t hate it either, actually practiced by himself ONCE I’m a total beginner but you can play Jingle Bells in C with a simple C, F, G triad progression underneath, starting the melody on E. One of you on the chords, one of you on the melody. Nigel Tufnel fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Nov 21, 2020 11:35
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Nigel Tufnel posted:Me and my small hands have problems with 7th chords. How acceptable is it to leave out the 5th? Makes it much easier to play for me. Exceptions being dims with a flat 5. Honestly, often 7ths sound *better* without it. The 5th dominent is really there to build up overtones from the Tonic and fatten it up a bit. Because the extensions add a bit of dissonance however, that fifth gives a bit more surface area to clash with the 7th and especially the 9ths and 11ths. The Dominant doesnt really impart important musical information, it wont tell your ear if its a major or minor or whatever. Just leave it out and punk the tonic a little harder. The other thing is, if your having trouble hitting those distant extension, consider revoicing your chord. Maybe even do something a bit trickier and instead leaving out the tonic, but then spelling the root on the bass, so for a maj7, you play an 3/5/7 on your right hand and the 1 on your right down a few octaves. Experiment! Thats the heart of jazz voicings. gently caress about until you got something fun for the ear..
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Nov 21, 2020 14:32
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a neat little trick my piano teacher taught me is that if you play a maj7 but then play that the tonic's relative minor in the bass you've got yourself a minor 9 instead. i know that's the kind of thing that you can just kind of figure out if you look at the notes but it probably would've taken me a long time to realize on my own. he's teaching me a song that has Em9 and Gmaj7 in it and being able to use the same shape in the right hand for both chords makes it a lot easier to play. also i started noodling about a year ago and started taking lessons in january and i'm extremely psyched to be able to play songs with fancy chords in them (even if i have to play them pretty slowly)
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Nov 21, 2020 19:20
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Nigel Tufnel posted:Me and my small hands have problems with 7th chords. How acceptable is it to leave out the 5th? Makes it much easier to play for me. Exceptions being dims with a flat 5. the jazz guys would concur with your reasoning about dropping the perfect 5th but keeping the flat-5 when its called for i think this frees you up for lots of different chord voicings you could't get if you were obliged to play that 5th! Jazz Marimba posted:Root -- 3rd -- 7th is such a common jazz voicing there's a name for it: shell voicings. Check out Bud Powell--he p much developed them its this and sometimes it sounds really good to play the 5th in the bass (2nd inversion), so it could be good to just play a shell chord in your right hand so you aren't doubling the 5th
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Nov 21, 2020 21:53
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cosmin posted:My 5yo son started piano with a teacher, only had 3 lessons, doesn’t love it but doesn’t hate it either, actually practiced by himself ONCE I have this book https://pianoadventures.com/publications/adult-piano-adventures-christmas-book-1/ Which has gone over well. It’s nice cause the arrangements aren’t bad and they’re easy enough for me to sight read. I think they make an even easier version as well. The Faber song books make good sight reading material in general.
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Greetings, piano thread! I had a notion this morning and I'm not sure if it's a "yeah that would be cool" or a "no, that's very stupid, you idiot. you absolute knave." I was a DOS gamer back in the day, and the holy grail for MIDI back then was a Roland MT-32. Basically a synth without a keyboard you'd hook up to your sound card that would let you hear ingame music the way the composer heard it. I have a Yamaha Arius digital piano that's very good at being a piano-rear end piano, in the sense that I can practice on it and shift over to an acoustic pretty much seamlessly. That was what I wanted, that's what I got. It's got some built-in voices, including one called "DXPiano" that's meant as a generic synth sound, but you can't really do much to it. I know this thing has the ability to be used as a MIDI keyboard, so I'm wondering - could I take something like an MT-32 or SC-55, plug the piano into it via MIDI interface, and play using the various voices and settings of that sound canvas? Preferably without having to run a cable to a computer? The piano has a line-in, so I was thinking plug into the sound canvas via USB MIDI interface, then take the line-out from the sound canvas and send it into the piano's line-in to use its speakers. Does this make any sense? Is there a more modern box I should be looking into instead?
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I think there may be a defect in my new piano. It took me a couple months to really notice due to inexperience, but I think the key A2 through F3 are not right. They have this weird action where there is a distinct stepwise sequence of sound. If I don't hit them hard enough they produce this muted thud, and are not actually pressed all the way, but may be 90% of the way. It's like there is a small barrier of resistance encountered by my fingers. This makes playing below mf very difficult for me. No such issue exists an octave below or above. I recorded a sample where I try to play these keys quietly. Let me know what you think. Should I complain to the store? Do I simply need a tech to adjust something or am I just doing something wrong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAdbZ92YAUE
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pokie posted:I think there may be a defect in my new piano. It took me a couple months to really notice due to inexperience, but I think the key A2 through F3 are not right. They have this weird action where there is a distinct stepwise sequence of sound. If I don't hit them hard enough they produce this muted thud, and are not actually pressed all the way, but may be 90% of the way. It's like there is a small barrier of resistance encountered by my fingers. This makes playing below mf very difficult for me. No such issue exists an octave below or above. I recorded a sample where I try to play these keys quietly. Let me know what you think. Should I complain to the store? Do I simply need a tech to adjust something or am I just doing something wrong? That looks like something a piano tuner can regulate rather than an actual defect in the piano. Could have happened when the piano was moved or maybe just the result of settling into a new environment? I would absolutely contact the shop about it.
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Stringent posted:That looks like something a piano tuner can regulate rather than an actual defect in the piano. Could have happened when the piano was moved or maybe just the result of settling into a new environment? Interesting. It was like this before I got it tuned about a month ago too. It's kind of startling that the tech didn't notice.
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Standard disclaimer, I am not a piano tuner, but it sounds as if the let off is too close for those keys? You might be able to tell if you can look down inside at the hammers moving, here's a video describing the mechanism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ65x0R23Ac
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I contacted the store. We'll see what they say. Meanwhile, I took a video from the inside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciI1R_1iXE Hitting E then F. F is almost perfect, E is garbage.
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pokie posted:I contacted the store. We'll see what they say. Meanwhile, I took a video from the inside: Ah yeah, you can see the damper sticking on the E. I dunno what causes that but it's probably not too hard for a tuner to fix.
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Stringent posted:Ah yeah, you can see the damper sticking on the E. I dunno what causes that but it's probably not too hard for a tuner to fix. FWIW, the store said they will take care of it once the lockdown is over.
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Piano's been here a year now so I just had it voiced. Chap was at it for about 5 hours and I'm very happy with the outcome. It was brighter than it had been when I selected it, a little too brilliant, sometimes if not very careful with touch a little harsh even. I've enjoyed it this year but now it's the instrument I fell in love with again. Warm, dark but with a great dynamic range and full of different colours. Very happy. Can't overestimate the usefulness of a good tech.
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I’m trying to figure out how to describe a chord progression. I’ve got F-Dm-Am-G which puts me in C or Am key. If it’s Am then it’s a vi-iv-i-vii progression but a google seems to suggest this is fairly uncommon even though it sounds perfectly nice to me. Do I have this right? Also how do I know if my chords make up a major of minor chord progression?
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Nigel Tufnel posted:I’m trying to figure out how to describe a chord progression. I’ve got F-Dm-Am-G which puts me in C or Am key. The first three chords sound fine but the last one, in the context of the three preceding chords, does not sound super compelling. But that also depends on voicing. My immediate gut reaction after hearing the Am is to go to C. But also because you started on an F major it's hard not to think of the entire progression as being in F major. This is assuming you're going for a repeating 4 chord progression. The G at the end can work depending on what goes after it. For example you could have: F - d - a - B/G - C/F - C This would clearly be in the key of C major as reinforced by having the second last suspension chord leading finally to C major. Starting with F major and having a "weak" progression from d to a doesn't really cement it in the territory of A minor. bltzn fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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Playing around with it some more, F d a G sounds pretty good if you're not moving in one direction on the keyboard. E.g. if you move down from F to d, then move higher for the a to G, you get a nice echo motif going on which could definitely work! But that sounds squarely in F major.
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bltzn posted:Playing around with it some more, F d a G sounds pretty good if you're not moving in one direction on the keyboard. E.g. if you move down from F to d, then move higher for the a to G, you get a nice echo motif going on which could definitely work! But that sounds squarely in F major. Bit of a delayed reply but if I was in F major then wouldn't I have to have a Gm rather than a G to incorporate the flat B (speaking in terms of the diatonic chords in Fmaj)?
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Nigel Tufnel posted:Bit of a delayed reply but if I was in F major then wouldn't I have to have a Gm rather than a G to incorporate the flat B (speaking in terms of the diatonic chords in Fmaj)? Yeah thats right, the G Major chord is NOT in the key of F Major. Instead, the G Minor chord is. But the G Major chord is in F Lydian (same notes as C major), so thats one other way to think about this. in C Major, i would write IV ii vi V in F Lydian, i would write I vi iii II And instead of saying F Lydian, you could also say "its in the key of F major, but I'm borrowing this non-diatonic G major chord for color."
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Nigel Tufnel posted:Bit of a delayed reply but if I was in F major then wouldn't I have to have a Gm rather than a G to incorporate the flat B (speaking in terms of the diatonic chords in Fmaj)? Yes, my mistake, thanks for catching that! I meant g minor, not major
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Here's a random question. I inherited a Kurzweil PC2x this weekend from my grandfather. He and my grandmother were heavy smokers so I need to clean this sucker up before anything else really. Are there any good youtube tutorials or threads or anything for it? What should I use in terms of cleaning solutions and materials? Just sort of looking for somewhere to start. It doesn't have to sparkle, but I don't want tar buildup inside to cause any damage while playing it, and I would like to get it looking NOT like it sat in a heavy smokers home for a decade.
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I’m a big Spinal Tap fan (see user name) and I noticed today as I was practicing my F/dm scales and diatonic chords that the last of the 4 chords that Nigel Tufnel plays in the ‘Lick my love pump’ scene isn’t from Dm (the saddest of all keys). He plays Dm, Bb, Am, G when the G would be Gm if he was using diatonic chords. Not sure if it was a little hidden joke but it amused me. I know you don’t always have to use the diatonic chords to make a song sound nice but thought it was interesting that there was a ‘mistake’ in his grand composition.
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We haven't had some Chopin in a while ITT, so here's some. A friend put together an online recital of Chopin's complete Mazurkas, and this one is my contribution. Very short, but many layers of complexity and also kind of awkward on a technical level, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfTKyKJbJzI
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Jan 20, 2021 02:37
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When I was in 10th grade, the piano player they hired to do the Homecoming event didn't show up/cancelled so on a pinch like that afternoon the day of I said I'd do it, so they booked me to play the whole show just after hearing me warm up a bit. I really just played Fur Elise over and over but everyone was like wow good job. The seniors said they'd kick my rear end if i screwed up their homecoming haha Oh I played piano at my Sister's wedding after party for awhile. I LOVE PIANOS
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Don't know if the yanks here know of Jools Holland but he's a music presenter / Boogie Woogie piano player over here in blighty. Found this on youtube. Quite an inspiring 45 mins light history of the piano / blues / boogie woogie / his influences etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lYTtFHANUs
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Could this be a sped up video? Like, compare to the pitch of the first note to any other recording of the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZzjpnSdeVA The pitch of everything is about one semitone higher than what my wife's Yamaha electric piano does. I figured Richter's piano might just be tuned weird, or maybe old pianos were just tuned all over the place. But I found the settings to transpose our piano up one note; when I shift it up one key it and play the song myself the chords still sound completely different from his version. The pitches themselves just sound more wrong that way than in this video, which is kind of my baseline for what this song should sound like. Is my wife's piano weird, or is there something to this video's playback speed having been adjusted? Was that common for old recordings? Indeed, other recordings of Richter playing this song don't go nearly this fast, although he's a lot older in them.
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RIP Chick Corea. Fml https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp5B64jXbu0
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Is there a thread or place for asking what the notes and chords in a song are? There are some simple riffs I'd like to learn in music I listen to that I could use some help with.
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Feb 25, 2021 04:10
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i know this is the piano thread, but ultimate guitar might have what you need. i usually google "$SONG_NAME chords" and most of the time, someone has posted a chart for it to UG. but beware guitar chord sheets which call for a capo! for example if it says "Capo: 5" that means you need to click the button to transpose up 5 semitones so it sounds right on your piano.
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I'm looking to scan and digitize all my sheet music and put it on an old mac book I have lying around and using that as my defacto way to read sheet music. Is there a good program for reading/organizing various sets of sheet music, they'll likely all be in pdf format.
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Skyarb posted:I'm looking to scan and digitize all my sheet music and put it on an old mac book I have lying around and using that as my defacto way to read sheet music. Is there a good program for reading/organizing various sets of sheet music, they'll likely all be in pdf format. forscore is the industry standard, everything else is passable. always on ipads though, idk anyone that’s done it on a mb pick up a page turner pedal too, they’re a life changer
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