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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Welp

https://consequence.net/2025/04/gro...w2izoUe0ol_wzPQ

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hadji murad
Apr 18, 2006


just change the name to Brand New Allegations

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

my stance on brand new is that i listen to them because i am not invested in jesse lacey as a person, i am invested in individual songs that are well written. i think he's a person capable of writing some really good music but that doesn't make me okay with him. i don't believe that streaming music on spotify supports the artists i want to support, so at the same time, i also believe that it doesn't support artists that i don't support.

i've never given them money for albums or gone to a show.

to me the world is filled with authors who are demonstrably bad people but have made work that stands up, through the different centuries and mediums. i don't know.

also i would've deleted this post but i accidentally hit "submit" or some shortcut to do it with the keyboard, and assumed an edit would look worse than posting this

landgrabber fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Apr 7, 2025

bees x1000
Jun 11, 2020

I have a lot of thoughts and feelings about Brand New but it's impossible to share them on the internet without someone getting mad, so I'll just say I'm glad I got to see them in 2010 without any moral quandaries.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Listen to whoever you want, it's just incredibly dumb that they're coming back like this and that we even need new allegations to remind people why they went away.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

i would say i think it's very interesting that the man who wrote Sic Transit Gloria, which is seemingly about being assaulted or at least in a situation where someone having sex is uncomfortable enough to the point where it was traumatizing and causes the narrator to say "die young and save yourself."

i find that hypocrisy pretty offensive and it's emblematic of an absolutely rotten view of women.

at the same time, i like reading anne sexton's poems sometimes, and her daughter alleged that she was abused by her mother. and sometimes i feel rotten for at once liking fiona apple and brand new. but we all contain contradictions i suppose.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

i would like to bravely state that Brand New always sucked rear end but people really want to attend the reunions due to sunk cost from having gotten the stupid astronaut tattoo

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
I think you can feel complicated emotions about listening to Brand New in 2025 but you are just making excuses if you are paying $130+ per ticket to go see Brand New play live in 2025.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I know a couple people who bought tickets to the Brand New tour and I was scratching my head when I found that out. These are educated people who I'm sure are aware of Jesse Lacey's past allegations. I wonder if they're still going after this round of allegations.

UwUnabomber
Sep 9, 2012

This shit ain't nothin' to me, man.
If you wanna see Brand New you should be mocked/not trusted but if you paid $130 for it you should have your drivers license revoked.

el B
Jan 30, 2004
holler.
Never heard of em

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

el B posted:

Never heard of em

said Lacey, as he looked down at his feet, when asked about the allegations

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d9UUluAjVmM

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011


When ilovebeersooomuch isn't posting, all the other goons should be asking "where's ilovebeersooomuch?" That's what I think.

Inspector_666 posted:

Brand New
$130+ per ticket

Lol what the hell

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Dave Allen of Gang of Four just passed away: https://www.stereogum.com/2303262/former-gang-of-four-bassist-dave-allen-dead-at-69/news/

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

Lol what the hell

Oh did you not hear? This is an arena tour!

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007


Al Barile too

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

gently caress.

Kingo Ligma
Aug 24, 2019

The Gang of 4 internal beef is always really funny to me. Like Andy Gill touring as Gang of 4 with three randos and everyone involved saying "we'd love to get the original line up back together, but the others aren't really interested in touring" during interviews, than the second Gill is in the ground the rest are out touring again as Gang of 4.

Like, I don't think it's a coincidence that Andy is cut out of all the photos in the press release for Dave Allen passing.

Shamewave
Nov 25, 2024

New Junior Varsity song, in hope for a full length album to be announced soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nt9BZVX0Zo

RubberLuffy
Mar 31, 2011
new Turnstile album June 6th

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIMDl4ARXn6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://open.spotify.com/prerelease/6zYooOenIJ7lYboPoWOHvf?si=91edcbe67f934f9d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfk1Su1Q8SI

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Kingo Ligma posted:

The Gang of 4 internal beef is always really funny to me. Like Andy Gill touring as Gang of 4 with three randos and everyone involved saying "we'd love to get the original line up back together, but the others aren't really interested in touring" during interviews, than the second Gill is in the ground the rest are out touring again as Gang of 4.

Like, I don't think it's a coincidence that Andy is cut out of all the photos in the press release for Dave Allen passing.

Bitter internal fighting in a band named after a Maoist political faction?!?

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Got Lambrini Girls tonight , should be good. I expect it to be a mix of old men (me) and the youths.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!



I’m a much bigger fan of Time + Space than GLOW ON so I am not really feeling this new song. There were still a few bangers on GLOW ON so I’m sure it’ll still be a good album.

Aramoro posted:

Got Lambrini Girls tonight , should be good. I expect it to be a mix of old men (me) and the youths.

Awesome. I enjoyed seeing them open for Amyl & the Sniffers last Summer. My wife is obsessed with the song Cuntology 101 lmao

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Blackbelt Bobman posted:


Awesome. I enjoyed seeing them open for Amyl & the Sniffers last Summer. My wife is obsessed with the song Cuntology 101 lmao

It was great, a lot of crowd participation especially during Cuntology 101. Great crowd as well, like 50/50 aging punks and young queer folk.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Just saw the cheapest price to go see Blink and Alk Trio on the tour stop near me. $310 after fees/taxes. They can both go gently caress themselves.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011


When ilovebeersooomuch isn't posting, all the other goons should be asking "where's ilovebeersooomuch?" That's what I think.

EL BROMANCE posted:

Just saw the cheapest price to go see Blink and Alk Trio on the tour stop near me. $310 after fees/taxes. They can both go gently caress themselves.

One of the venues near me has lawn tickets for $70 but yeah seats are $200+ and pit over $300. Blink’s been overpriced since the reunion and sucks now anyway. As much as I love Alkaline, I saw them twice last year so don’t really feel the need to drop that much cash and travel.

Unrelated, Mannequin Pussy and Gouge Away are doing some shows together late summer/ early fall.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Yeah they played a proper arena here last time and prices were dumb then too, but I could’ve gotten partial view on day of for something like $25. This time they’ve picked Hard Rock Live that holds a few thousand people, so they can gouge the price right up.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

alkaline rules, blink drools imo

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

https://youtu.be/mSiJD_GasHg?si=3pXqFgY9zhFAFEnM

4:20-5:30

quote:

Started out as honest dudes, even though your music sucked.
Then somewhere along the lines your sense of
morals became corrupt.

Now you're playing the River Rave.
Now you're playing Crazy Fest.
What the gently caress?

When At The Drive In called it quits I laughed and said one less piece of poo poo. There's so much more still around but at least there's no more emo core hits.

Just break up.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Not familiar with the source but what with the At the Drive-In call out? I’m gonna be big mad if I find out they or Mars Volta or Sparta are rapists or something

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

The name of that song is “Please Break Up Before You Embarrass Us All” which I feel is fitting.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Okay? So was At the Drive In considered a ripoff normie band or something? I wouldnt say I'm a die hard fan but I've liked them, Sparta, Mars Volta.

a shitty king
Mar 26, 2010
Teen Mortgage just released their debut album. I've been following them for a little while and they absolutely rip. Would highly recommend them and I don't see them mentioned in the thread til now.

https://youtu.be/JJf2UFHo9Jg?si=rsMvpxXrlB5-QdLN

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

Beastie posted:

Okay? So was At the Drive In considered a ripoff normie band or something? I wouldnt say I'm a die hard fan but I've liked them, Sparta, Mars Volta.

lol dude it’s just a silly song don’t overthink it. You can like at the drive in if you want.

Here’s some other choice lyrics from them

”Review This, Fucker” posted:

As a band, we joke a lot.
We're not as serious as Portraits of Past.
But if this 7" gets a bad review, we'll kill you.
You've been around for a while.
I've been edge for two months.
gently caress you.
You're dead.

Btw I am pretty sure atdi is a drive like jehu and fugazi rip off??

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Getting mad at hardcore bands ftw

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


a lovely king posted:

Teen Mortgage just released their debut album. I've been following them for a little while and they absolutely rip. Would highly recommend them and I don't see them mentioned in the thread til now.

https://youtu.be/JJf2UFHo9Jg?si=rsMvpxXrlB5-QdLN

I saw them at PRB last year, they are pretty great. They manage to make a ton of noise with just a guitar & drums.

Kingo Ligma
Aug 24, 2019

Beastie posted:

Not familiar with the source but what with the At the Drive-In call out? I’m gonna be big mad if I find out they or Mars Volta or Sparta are rapists or something

It's literally the opposite:

Spoilered because it's horrific:

Cedric Bixler's wife is one of Danny Masterson's victims. If you don't know Danny was the actor who played Hyde on That 70s show. He brutally raped/sexually assaulted a large number of women. During the trial, Cedric's family was harassed by the church of scientology (everyone in this story was at some point a member) up to and including killing their pet dogs.

Schiavona
Oct 8, 2008

Bayside is on tour doing two-night shows with a variety of opening acts. Saw them with Sincere Engineer, both were great.

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Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
Pittsburgh has something called Four Chord Music Festival in September. I’ll likely have to pick one day and I’d rather see Jawbreaker again, but both days have pretty solid lineups.

https://www.fourchordmusicfestival.com/lineup

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