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skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Cobweb Heart posted:

Botany-themed black metal that uses a hammered dulcimer instead of guitars and bass.

I went into this expecting it to blow, and it kind of did, but I can't say I didn't enjoy listening to it - the very idea of it is so terrific as to excuse a lot of its flaws, and the constant plant puns handle the rest. (Specifically I am thinking of "Rhododendoom"). The last few songs on II are actually pretty amazing, I'm quite looking forward to his next release.

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skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


SierraEchoBravo posted:

I can't stop laughing at the plant puns, any idea how serious they are?

Way more so than is probably warrantable.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


It should be pretty obvious by this point, if it wasn't already, that Hunt-Hendrix is taking advantage of the black metal musician's unique right to take oneself completely seriously while also completely taking the piss. Some people in black metal have the urge to make music videos of themselves prancing around the woods in wizard hats; some people have the urge to make powerpoints about their transcendentalist, err...burstbeats. Hell, HHH is smalltime compared to Velvet Cacoon and their diesel harp.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Listened to the new Botanist, aka that one guy who plays black metal about plant puns on the hammered dulcimer. Only now he plays doomed black metal about plant puns on the hammered dulcimer, and it's actually really good.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


If you don't mind poo poo-fi, you might look at some Crepusculo Negro stuff. Dolorvotre, Volahn, Kuxan Suum. Only problem is there's not much of it (Kuxan Suum having recorded a grand total of two songs, for example). Outside of CN, you might like Branikald (mind their being Nazis, though), Velvet Cacoon (mind their being complete assholes, though), and The Ruins of Beverast.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Burzum - Hvis lyset tar oss should also be pretty high up on your list.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?



That's not bad, although the second half kind of seems better to me than the first. Really like the solo guitar bit that comes in ~10.30 mark.

skasion fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 27, 2012

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


nomapple posted:

Oops, I meant to hit edit, and I hit "quote" without realising and posted anyway, but: Opinions on the new Wodensthrone?

Didn't think too much of it, honestly. The only track on their first I really liked was the crescendocore instrumental, to be fair, but this one didn't do much for me.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Morbid Florist posted:

Unfortunately I don't think we'll be seeing any Al-Varg Bin Vikernes running around torching mosques but considering you'd be killed for making music like this...

Speaking of which, it's more tr00kvlt in style than Arabesque but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap60ERNTQYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS73YZgqGx0

The second especially is sort of :stare: - one-woman anti-Islamic black metal from, uh, Iraq. Those are some brass balls right there.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Comes from a 2001-dated interview on an Angelfire site so take it with a grain of salt, but:

quote:

Akitsa is not satanic nor pagan. I must say that we are proud to be from Québec and being French speaking. The Black Metal scene is now more than divided at my opinion. I think what is truly wrong right now is that Black Metal have been commercialised and that people associate subhumans like Mystic Circle, Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, etc with Black Metal. As for NSBM I think that this scene still spread hatred and Black Metal is all about that but I don't agree with their views.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


deadking posted:

The absolute worst terrorist act you could commit in the name of Watain is to make someone listen to a Watain record.

But that's not ~*theistically satanic*~ enough :colbert:

Unrelatedly, new Ash Borer's out. I'm...not really sure how I feel about it. Can't help but think that it's about twenty minutes too long - I mean, even Hvis lyset tar oss is only what, forty-five minutes long? and I'd be hard-put to find a better example of long-form black metal. Here, the first track is solid but the rest are kind of meandering, which is unfortunate given how well they pulled off long songs on the s/t and the Fell Voices split. The ethereal female vocals are thankfully pretty sparse but still seem as superfluous here as they did when WITTR tried the same poo poo. Mostly I guess I need to listen to it a few more times, but I can't say anything on this album really popped out at me the way it did on the s/t. Maybe it's the higher-budget production.

I'll still try to catch them with Menace Ruine this fall, but I'm not really feeling the record at the moment.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Looks like the Crepusculo Negro label has shut down. I really hope some of the Black Twilight Circle projects can find other ways to release their stuff - Volahn may be rear end in a top hat but he also released some of the greatest black metal of the last few years, probably some of the greatest American black metal ever, and I'd be sorry if this was the end of the road for projects like Dolorvotre, Kallathon, and Axeman.

I guess the ultimate act of LLN-worship is falling the gently caress apart.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Black Twilight Circle is Los Angeles-based group of no-fi black metal projects with their own cassette label, started in like 2008, and apparently dead as of Friday.

All the bands were made up of the same five or six guys. The music (as well as the general vibe) was pretty strongly influenced by LLN (as well as Mesoamerican nationalist rhetoric, :catdrugs:, and, uh, "kaos"). As always is the case when it comes to über-kvlt bullshit, they were a little hit-or-miss, but put out some really rad and kind of unusual underground bm, occasionally branching out into death and folksier stuff. I hear they really tore poo poo up live, too.

Dolorvotre (stoner black metal?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2oPyO5ySDI
Volahn (black metal, kind of folk-influenced): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eT7g8w545g
Muknal (occult/blackened death): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBD2zpOwTvg
Axeman (punk-influenced black metal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwoi9L3kiS4
Kallathon (atmospheric black metal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJk5KFAZihg

There were a couple of other acts involved too, but I'd say these were the best.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Yeah, Tukaaria and Odz Manouk (and Glossolalia) are more associated with Rhinocervs which is why I didn't mention them. But Rhinocervs have some cool poo poo going on too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pskGTFQ-Nhk

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Even as far as underground bm goes BTC/Rhinocervs remained pretty well below the radar - mostly because of their insistence on cassettes first and foremost. I actually found out about their existence not in the context of black metal so much as in the context of tape enthusiasts.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Dog Jones posted:

I'm getting into black metal now, and Burzum is loving tight. What is up with his crazy loving ideas though? I'm scared to read the lyrics because I might find out these awesome tracks are about a bunch of stupid poo poo.

:shrug: That's kind of the way it goes sometimes. All black metal involves some degree of ridiculousness - whether or not the creator is conscious of the fact that it's ridiculous doesn't affect its merit, though. Varg's lyrics tend to be less provocative than the screeds of nonsense on his website, though - especially on the first few albums (his best, I'd say) it's all very much fantasy stuff you'd have to stretch pretty far to be offended by. I don't think anyone should ignore the messages that black metal musicians are putting out there - but it is, as with any other music, a good idea to take those messages with an appropriate amount of salt. Which in Varg's case is a pretty heaping spoonful.

Dog Jones posted:

Anyway, I'm new to this genre but I'm really feeling it. I've listened to Ulver's first four records and Burzum's discography (among a few others). What are the classic, definitive black metal records I should check out?

Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark remains the foundational album of the genre for me. Of the 90s Norwegian scene, Mayhem - Live in Leipzig, Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger, and maybe the Emperor/Enslaved split.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


The new Krallice pleasantly surprised me actually, much less of a chore to listen to than most of their stuff. A couple of tracks are even pretty good, although I don't have the slightest loving clue which ones because "IIIIIIII" isn't really all that easy to distinguish at a glance from "IIIIIIIII".

The new Cloak of Altering I really wanted to like since I generally love Mories' stuff and in particular I thought his first album as Cloak of Altering was fantastic, but it hasn't really grabbed me. Neither has his latest as De Magia Veterum. :shrug:

Actually I'm kind of having a hard time thinking of straight-up black metal full-lengths this year that I really liked. There were a lot of good demos/EPs (Wylve, The Rain in Endless Fall x2, Axis of Light, Thenn, Ash Pool, Din of Awakening, Rhinocervs) but the only full albums I've really been replaying are Ash Borer and Revenge. I guess I also liked Spectral Lore - Sentinel but that huuuuuge outro always turns me off listening to it again unfortunately.

vvv yeah. Really glad that got a rerelease, just because of the tracks off the split with Tukaaria. The Scavenger goddamn

skasion fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Dec 12, 2012

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


m-o-o-n posted:

Oh! I kinda drifted in and out while listening to that album so I honestly didn't remember it having that song.

Umskiptar in a nutshell.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Ah, seriously? That blows, Heresiarch's EP was great. Was really looking forward to a full-length.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


nomapple posted:

What else is there to look forward to in 2013?

It looks like Fanisk might finally release Insularum this year - they've got a sample up on Soundcloud and everything.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


seconding Grave Miasma. I might also add Vasaeleth, Cruciamentum, Heresiarch, and Genocide Shrines.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Gilead just announced new Ash Borer - Bloodlands EP and Fell Voices - Regnum Saturni 2xLP for 2013. Which almost makes up for my having to miss their Portland show this spring.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Noontide was already more about like "Ariosophic" black sun/occult poo poo than anything actually objectionable - even the Hitler samples are pretty restrained. Insularum is as far as I can tell all about taking drugs and going on astral journeys; Stella Arja seems like a pretty good comparison. In general they seem to get less Nazified with every release.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


With a total disregard for human life; behold: DEATH WORSHIP

Not gonna lie, I'm really pumped for this. Conqueror reunion + Blasphemy vocalist? sign me up.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


RHTITE posted:

Varg is doing potentially interesting things again. I always thought he had a serious knack for this kind of thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASefHYjXx98&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZYTz6dW53LA

That's...pretty okay actually. Real chill.

But Papyrus, Varg? Why?

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

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deadking posted:

New Lluvia album due out later this year. The posted sample track sounds really good; I can't wait for this album:

http://bandcamp.fallenempirerecords.com/album/premonicion-de-guerra


Edit: It's probably helpful to mention that Lluvia is the guy behind The Rain in Endless Fall and Wylve (who's also involved in Blut Der Nacht). I think it's basically the same project, just with a different name. Again.

He already released the track "La Oscuridad Doth Dar La Inmortalidad" as The Rain in Endless Fall and I was already impressed by it at that time - but I'm really glad to hear this guy sticking with a concept long enough to release a full-length.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


YYZ posted:

Can anyone recommend some bands with vocals in German? Stuff like Helrunar and Lunar Aurora, or anything that sounds like Bethlehem's Dark Metal (although it's mostly in English) would be cool.

Paysage d'Hiver, of course. Though there's not much resemblance to Bethlehem.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Scunthog posted:

Just heard the news that Fanisk have split up... Hopefully the Kataxu follow up (if its ever released) will fill that symphonic void now left. Unless anyone has any recommendations in the same vein as Fanisk/Eldrig or Kataxu?

Wait, really? Sucks, I heard they had one more album coming. I can't really think of anything to fill the void either, Kataxu are only vaguely similar and most symphonic bm is nothing like them.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Hawaii_Lame-O posted:

Aastraal - Tuba Mirum Spargens Sonum Per Sepulcra Regionum, Coget Omnes Ante Thronum (note: yes, you can buy their album for 666 Euro... aka they aren't really selling because they're looking for a label). Avant-garde black metal with chamber chanting.

Is this a Mories de Jong thing? Sounds a lot like Cloak of Altering.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


dk2m posted:

Jesus christ, first I've heard of Teitanblood and I'm very impressed.

I have a question: what other bands should I check out if I like Horseback? I guess they're not strictly black metal, but I love their style and haven't heard much other stuff like that out there. Panopticon has the folksy Americana thing going on, but that's all I know about so far.

There's basically nothing out there like Horseback that I've found, they are only black metal-related in the loosest sense and in general they have such a weird blend of influences that I'm not sure anyone has reduplicated it. Blood Bright Star and (occasionally) Aluk Todolo remind me of the sound of The Invisible Mountain, but neither in a very interesting way, and both are even less blackened than Horseback. The new Thou record is scratching a similar extreme vox + plodding bluesy riffs itch for me, but to compare Thou and Horseback in general would be a stretch.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?



Black metal...by NAZIS?! Thank you no, sounds offensive.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Inquisition isn't NSBM in any way though.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Bertrand Hustle posted:

People who say "gently caress Jesus" aren't saying "gently caress Jesus 'cause he's a Jew", they're saying "gently caress Jesus" because it pisses off Christians (or they think it does).

There's a difference between saying things about a religious figure who may or may not have actually existed, in the context of verbally trashing that religion, and calling for the extermination of an entire race. A huge difference.

And it's one thing if they keep their opinions to themselves and it doesn't come out in their music, but even then, some people have a problem enjoying the work of an artist who they know to be a piece of poo poo. I can listen to music by somebody who is an rear end in a top hat, but I draw the line at Nazi. It's one thing to be a former Nazi, or commit a crime and later reform, but somebody who is actively a fascist shithead deserves no respect or support.

I'm sorry that you feel morally tainted by listening to music made by assholes, but why do you give a poo poo when other people don't?

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

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Von Sloneker posted:

http://www.darkcyberspace.com/120501750.html

DARKSPACE CALLING DSSC.
MISSION: DARK SPACE IIII
ENCOUNTER. GEO COORDINATES: 46.94051, 7.44396. TIME: 062200BSEP14.
END OF TRANSMISSION



(from the metal-archives thread here)

"IIII"?

I'd have preferred more Paysage d'Hiver but hey, this is cool too.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

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kirkjames posted:

Can we all agree that the best Mayhem album is the "Live in Leipzig" LP with Dead singing? That recording is heavier and more insane than anything Mayhem ever recorded. I still like DMDS and Deathcrush but that live album is PUNISHING.

I don't know if I would call it the best Mayhem album since the sound is awful and it's full of fuckups, but I definitely like it a lot better than any of their studio albums, and Dead is a big part of why.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

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kirkjames posted:

I don't know how many times I have to try to get people to listen to Cultes des Ghoules!!! Cultes des Ghoules!!!! Also Blaze of Perdition and Bestial Raids are fantastic polish BM.

But seriously Cultes des Ghoules - Henbane is the most underrated LP of 2013. It is flawless!

Can't post about Cultes des Ghoules and Bestial Raids and forget Doombringer.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Thantifaxath. The latest Jute Gyte is also pretty good but only tenuously black metal.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


New Xothist is finally out and it's amazing and free.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


apophenium posted:

Pretty decent DSBM from a band called MOONKNIGHT. Presumably, no relation to the Marvel Comics character.

I'm pretty sure it is actually named for Moon Knight, Roach is a comics buff. New album is really good anyway, anything the Harassor guys have done is gonna be at least kind of interesting.

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skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


I liked the long ambient track on Sentinel, the actual black metal was okay too I guess.

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