Is that a spiked mace in your pocket, or is this the black metal thread?

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Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

ChaosNonMusica posted:

Can anyone recommend some piss raw black metal like Ildjarn, Bone Awl, or Clandestine Blaze? No symphonic, operatic, or clean sounding stuff, please.

Ildjarn headed up a side project called Sort Vokter that's probably worth seeking out.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2007 23:21

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 23:04

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

Windir - 1184

The rest will fall into place.

This was the album that got me into black metal and I will wholeheartedly second this recommendation.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2007 10:25

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

Unquestionable there's a noticeable difference. Not in a lot of blackmetal since it's so underproduced, but even with Immortal's new stuff, I have a 160vbr version of Sons and a 320 one. There is a profound difference. Highs are higher, lows are lower, and the middle is far more dynamic.

What lowpass was your 160VBR rip encoded with? 320CBR is almost universally better than 160VBR, but there's a lot of really lovely encoders out there that completely mess up the lowpass.

Gvaz posted:

I believe mp3 is mpeg1. .m4a is just .mp4 in disguise (mpeg4) or (Yes I know, wikipedia but;)

True, but false. .mp4 and .m4a is the MPEG-4 Part 14 container format (like .avi, .mkv, .ogm, etc.), which is pretty much identical to Apple's .mov container format. It can contain a number of video, audio and subtitle streams, which may or may not be MPEG-4. By convention, .m4a means that it's audio-only MPEG-4, but the format itself can actually contain whatever and be a perfectly valid, standards-conforming file.

It's irrelevant, though, because the stuff you get off of iTunes is FairPlay-protected and has the .m4p file extension. It can't be converted without some mechanism for breaking the DRM (the simplest of which is burning it to CD from iTunes and re-ripping it). Transcoding to another format does bad, bad things to the audio quality.

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Jan 6, 2008

# ¿ Jan 6, 2008 09:45

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Qu Appelle posted:

with names like Mika creating music that sounds like it came from the 5th level of Hell.

How right you are

# ¿ Mar 23, 2008 17:59

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

brightfield posted:

The new Wrath of the Weak Alogon is quite good. The vocals are recessed to the point where if someone didn't tell you otherwise, you might think this were a straight up ambient black metal album. The last song has nary a trace of metal - and is a 21-minute ambient opus. This one is growing on me.

Why can't a single "ambient black metal" act put together some drumming that's even halfway interesting?

# ¿ Apr 1, 2008 03:44

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Dyna Soar posted:

Why? The guy's a cold blooded racist murderer who last time when he was on parole got a car, a gun and a load of drugs and tried to escape to Denmark. Why would you want a guy like that out of jail?

Uh, he was never on parole. He was granted short leave, and tried to flee the country.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2008 18:51

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Eventh posted:

Immortal

no that's not right this picture is missing horgh

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Apr 20, 2008

# ¿ Apr 20, 2008 05:40

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

You give and you take. I've always considered Dani Filth a very interesting lyricist and a very uninteresting musician.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2008 18:34

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

lordblytzkrieg posted:

So, I play WoW and someone I play with just told me about this black metal band who did a couple songs based on WoW. I gotta say, I really dig them. Its by a band called Sorg Uten T�rer its called "For the Horde" and they also do a song about the Warlock class called "The Demonologist."

here's the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eygoVl6LWII&feature=related

BUT BUT BUT IDEOLOGY

# ¿ Sep 18, 2008 16:22

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

MrBling posted:

Would it help you guys if I told you that the Pyha kid is actually from South Korea?

he's actually eight years old and cannot afford shoes or a home and he sleeps inside of a tauntaun

# ¿ Sep 20, 2008 10:05

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Can anyone point me to more stuff that sounds as undirected, balls-out aggressive as Diamatregon's Blasphemy for Satan? I'm loving the sloppy, crusty approach on this album.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2008 06:10

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

modernlifeisadam posted:

No, he was going to, but they got their new drummer, Samus, right before they started recording.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2008 20:44

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Gvaz posted:

Catamenia

Note that only Catamenia's first two albums have anything to do with black metal (they ape the first few Dimmu albums pretty hard), and the rest of their catalogue is really quite mediocre, generic Finnish-style melodeath in the vein of an incredibly average Insomnium/Omnium Gatherum/whatever.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2008 14:00

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

MrBling posted:

It's called melodic death metal.

Yeah, I'm hesitant to call them black metal too. It's melodeath in a diminished scale. I think even Naglfar and Anorexia Nervosa are blacker than these guys.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2008 15:53

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Gr31lly posted:

hipster material

In the context of black metal what the gently caress does this even mean

# ¿ Sep 29, 2008 15:30

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Dyna Soar posted:

I guess what he means is instead of only appealing to people who wear bm shirts and studded leather jackets/belts/pants, it also appeals to people working in advetisement who wear orange sweaters.

Yeah, I kind of get the impression that if people listen to something and for whatever reason aren't hilarious black metal fan stereotypes with "RAHOWA 14/88" tattooed on their cock, they're hipsters, and this somehow has something to do with what music sounds like.

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Sep 29, 2008

# ¿ Sep 29, 2008 20:10

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Gvaz posted:

Sometimes people use it in reference to "watered down" or "more radio friendly" sounding music.

I guess if it's not "kvlt" enough...

I totally voted for Xasthur's "Screaming at Forgotten Fears" video (the one with Jack Black and Will Ferrell in it) on Headbanger's Ball

# ¿ Sep 29, 2008 21:20

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Not Very Metal posted:

Am I reading too much into your post, or is this some 1349 hate?

That'd be too bad if it was. 1349 owns.

1349 is entertaining live when stuck onto an already good bill but otherwise uninteresting and terrible

# ¿ Oct 2, 2008 21:13

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Gr31lly posted:

For Dissection like material I'd suggest Vinterland, Sacramentum, Setherial (Nord only, it's really more Emperor like, but it's loving amazing anyway) and early Sorhin.

Let's throw Dawn on the pile also even though they aren't half as good as Sacramentum

# ¿ Oct 5, 2008 04:26

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

meba rhodium posted:

I'm an absolute sucker for symphonic black metal, and I haven't found a new fix in ages. So I need your help.

What I'm listening to now that relates to that genre:

Anorexia Nervosa
Dimmu Borgir (an old highscool sweetheart I'm still in love with)
Arcturus
Equilibrium (really digging Sagas)
Nokturnal Mortum

Any recommendations appreciated.

Negura Bunget's Om sounds right up your alley. You'd probably also like Bergraven's Dodsvisioner and Naglfar's Sheol.

For the more experimental Arcturus-type stuff (and this is probably the wrong thread for some of my recommendations but whatever), try Frantic Bleep's The Sense Apparatus, In the Woods...'s Omnio and HEart of the Ages, Fleurety's Min Tid Skal Komme and maybe Scholomance's incredibly unpolished and sloppily-performed but still pretty cool The Immortality Murder.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2008 15:25

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

WantlessPonder posted:

Next month's CD batch so far includes over $180 worth of black metal albums.

I hear you. There was a point back in '06 or so where $150 every week for a couple of months went to The End's mailorder.

# ¿ Oct 6, 2008 04:16

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Clothes Optional posted:

Hay guys, I like Avant-Gardeish Black Metal like Sigh, Mirrorthrone, and Ihsahn. What else is out there like this?

There's a lot of different styles, so here's my typical laundry list of avant-garde/progressive metal in the black/viking vein so you can pop on MySpace or wherever and find them for yourself:

Arcturus - La Masquerade Infernale, The Sham Mirrors
Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God
Borknagar - Borknagar, The Olden Domain, The Archaic Course
Enslaved - Below the Lights, Isa
Fleurety - Min Tid Skal Komme
Frantic Bleep - The Sense Apparatus
In the Woods... - HEart of the Ages (black and abrasive), Omnio (barely black at all but still awesome so I might as well mention it)
maudlin of the Well - Bath/Leaving Your Body Map
Negura Bunget - Om, 'n Crugu Bradului
Peccatum - Lost in Reverie, The Moribund People
Portal - Outre, Seepia
Root - The Book, Madness of the Graves
Scholomance - The Immortality Murder
Solefald - In Harmonia Universali, The Linear Scaffold
Ved Buens Ende - Written in Waters, Those Who Caress the Pale

And maybe:
...And Oceans - The Dynamic Gallery of Thoughts, The Symmetry of I / The Circle of O

Steal the following from a blind school child just to laugh at how bad this genre can be:
Oxiplegatz - Sidereal Journey

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Oct 29, 2008

# ¿ Oct 29, 2008 05:07

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

PARIAH CAREY posted:

No Deathspell Omega mentions for him?

I'd considered it, but I don't think they're particularly avant-garde outside of Kenose which basically sounded like a bunch of bees buzzing around a large diaphragm condenser anyway.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2008 15:01

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

Halloween is metal as gently caress

Black metal is an ethos and a lifestyle and you shouldn't mock it by playing dress-up for your friends

# ¿ Nov 3, 2008 17:46

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

lordblytzkrieg posted:

Are there any black metal bands like Wolves in the Throne Room that don't come with that particular brand of hipster-pretentious faggotry?

Can you ask this in the form of a question that doesn't make me crack up at how ridiculous and angsty it sounds?

# ¿ Nov 8, 2008 08:27

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

krustster posted:

Just curious, what does "hipster faggotry" consist of in a black metal context anyway? Does that just mean that Pitchfork likes them or what? (honest question)

I think that's a label given when people who like post-rock pick up a black metal album and also like it.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2008 05:23

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

If incorporating shoegaze and pop rock into black metal is all that will save it, hand me a box of nails and a hammer to drive the coffin shut. I'd rather see it die completely than go where death metal has.

I don't think anybody other than rabid fans has ever implied that anyone is trying to "save" anything. It's a bunch of dudes writing music for the sake of writing music.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2008 20:57

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

I personally think what's happening to BM, in this regard, is giving birth to black metal's metalcore and/or rap metal equivalent.

That happened a decade ago when Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir and Old Man's Child cracked the Hot Topic scene. It has nothing to do with the post-rock/shoegaze influences creeping in nowadays.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2008 23:12

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

Many bands seem to think death/metalcore is a-ok too but that doesn't make them right.

Except that Coalesce and Botch are awesome :colbert:

# ¿ Nov 13, 2008 18:32

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:

So, uh Frost (aka Kjetil-Vidar Haraldstad) of Satyricon, 1349 and Gorgoroth fame would like to have a word with you...

Note: Picture taken from Peter Beste's book 'True Norwegian Black Metal'.

I prefer Horgh myself

# ¿ Nov 18, 2008 17:40

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

If Enslaved plays old poo poo on tour along with new stuff that would totally be worth catching. Eld was great, and I'd do a lot of things to see Havenless played live.

Eld was incredible. It's one of very, very few albums that I'm familiar with that successfully lays the Viking vocal style over more traditional black metal riffing and song structures.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2008 06:43

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Chromaplasm posted:

What are some criteria that one might use to judge whether a black metal album is good or bad?

1. Are they from a penniless former Soviet satellite?
2. Do one or more of the band members have ties to National Socialist groups?
3.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2008 06:54

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Pick up Ildjarn's Forest Poetry and Sort Vokter's Folkloric Necro Metal if you're not turned off by how amazingly low-fi they are.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2008 06:14

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Your Weird Uncle posted:

any bands similar to Darkthrone's Blaze In The Northern Sky or Ulver's Naatens Madrigal? I love the vibe I get from the harsh quality.

Also, I assume everyone in this thread has heard Krallice by now.

Ildjarn, Sort Vokter, we've been over it a dozen times

# ¿ Jan 9, 2009 20:51

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Morbid Florist posted:

Never listen to a man who says to ignore Emperor

What if you're at a party and Emperor is drunk and being really annoying

# ¿ Jan 22, 2009 17:53

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Not Very Metal posted:

Satyricon is playing Detroit tonight but I can't go. Unfortunately I'm required to attend my girl's grandparents 50th anniversary party.

I missed Estradasphere a few years ago because I had already committed to bring a girl to see Teddybears the same night

They didn't play any of their Teddybears STHLM grindcore stuff

We got really drunk and stumbled to a french fry dive in the Village though :unsmith:

# ¿ Jan 23, 2009 18:02

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

deltawing posted:

I instantly saw Michael Jackson...

Oh god why

# ¿ Jan 26, 2009 17:45

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

The Sun of Tiphareth was their best release and you're wrong if you think otherwise.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2009 16:56

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

I would love to hear someone do to actual hosed-up pop in a black metal style what Mike Patton did to pop in a Mike Patton style with Peeping Tom.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2009 22:57

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 23:04

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Kaiho posted:

Seriously, when will someone bring steel drums into the genre?

Master's Hammer had a timpani in 19 loving 91

# ¿ Feb 10, 2009 22:59

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