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froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

KittyEmpress posted:

When I was working in a FEMA call center 4-5ish years ago I picked up a book at barnes and noble to read between calls since I worked 8pm to 8am, the slowest shift of the day.

All I remember about it was that one of the two protagonists was a girl from a (from what I remember) vaguely arabic society that hated/viewed magic as demonic and wrong, who ended up running away with a thief or something briefly, before being captured and being taken through the desert to a mountain temple to be contained.

I'm curious what the name of that book was.


I think the other (male) protagonist was a more typical western type mage??? And I recall the end of the book being a portal introducing them to each other as they crossed into the same world.

Sorry if this is all very vague, I was not actually all that coherent in those days.

It sounds a little bit like the Renegade/Healers Quest series by Jessica Palmer - the main character Zelia is originally from a nomadic tribe, but is sent away to become a priestess.

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KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

It was definitely newer than either of those, because I remember it having a sequel that was meant to come out like a year after I read it.

I unfortunately lost most of my books in a big move.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
It was a children's book, 8.5 x 11 or larger, color drawings, probably 1970s or late 60s, American or Anglophone origin. Called "Peoples of the world" or something similar and it showed drawings of what were certainly well-intentioned but probably incredibly racist drawings of the various cultures of the world (Masai tribesmen and Orthodox Jews were two I remembered but there were lots), "well-intentioned" because it was all in that bullshit cold war "brotherhood of man" nonsense. The last couple of pages were a world where everyone was of the same culture and it was all grey and boring?

:google: is of little use with search terms as vague as my memory.

Any help?

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 15:38 on May 7, 2020

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

KittyEmpress posted:

When I was working in a FEMA call center 4-5ish years ago I picked up a book at barnes and noble to read between calls since I worked 8pm to 8am, the slowest shift of the day.

All I remember about it was that one of the two protagonists was a girl from a (from what I remember) vaguely arabic society that hated/viewed magic as demonic and wrong, who ended up running away with a thief or something briefly, before being captured and being taken through the desert to a mountain temple to be contained.

I'm curious what the name of that book was.


I think the other (male) protagonist was a more typical western type mage??? And I recall the end of the book being a portal introducing them to each other as they crossed into the same world.

Sorry if this is all very vague, I was not actually all that coherent in those days.

could it be the tombs of atuan

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Schadenboner posted:

It was a children's book, 8.5 x 11 or larger, color drawings, probably 1970s or late 60s, American or Anglophone origin. Called "Peoples of the world" or something similar and it showed drawings of what were certainly well-intentioned but probably incredibly racist drawings of the various cultures of the world (Masai tribesmen and Orthodox Jews were two I remembered but there were lots), "well-intentioned" because it was all in that bullshit cold war "brotherhood of man" nonsense. The last couple of pages were a world where everyone was of the same culture and it was all grey and boring?

:google: is of little use with search terms as vague as my memory.

Any help?

Could be "People" by Peter Speir?
https://www.amazon.com/People-Peter-Spier/dp/038524469X

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

:tipshat:

E: Huh, it was written in 1980 so (like me) it's almost 30 years old!

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

Schadenboner posted:

:tipshat:

E: Huh, it was written in 1980 so (like me) it's almost 30 years old!

Is it 2010, again? What a relief.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Schadenboner posted:

E: Huh, it was written in 1980 so (like me) it's almost 30 years old!

Hell, same

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Oh gently caress, I read tons of this guy's stuff when I was an literal childe. He did the one about the people who go to the grocery store.

E: also Tin Lizzie :gizz:

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Schadenboner posted:

Oh gently caress, I read tons of this guy's stuff when I was an literal childe. He did the one about the people who go to the grocery store.

E: also Tin Lizzie :gizz:

He is one of my favorites, "Christmas" is great, so is "The cow that fell in the canal"

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle
A science fiction story, possibly by Larry Niven, about a man who wakes up from some sort of last chance cryosleep into a dystopian world that want him to pilot an interstellar scout ship (for some reason) he escapes when he realizes that relativistic effects mean they can not make him do anything for them.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

yaffle posted:

A science fiction story, possibly by Larry Niven, about a man who wakes up from some sort of last chance cryosleep into a dystopian world that want him to pilot an interstellar scout ship (for some reason) he escapes when he realizes that relativistic effects mean they can not make him do anything for them.

World out of Time is the novel, can't remember the name of the short story it's an expansion of offhand.

Isolationist
Oct 18, 2005

The implication.

Runcible Cat posted:

World out of Time is the novel, can't remember the name of the short story it's an expansion of offhand.

Children of The State, or Rammer?

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Runcible Cat posted:

World out of Time is the novel, can't remember the name of the short story it's an expansion of offhand.

Thanks, It's "Rammer" btw
Does anyone have any recommendations for dystopian space travel short stories? Preferably more modern than the ones I can remember?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Banks' "Culture" series are set in a nominal utopia that has some uncomfortable implications. Also the protagonists are usually outsiders.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

yaffle posted:

Thanks, It's "Rammer" btw
Does anyone have any recommendations for dystopian space travel short stories? Preferably more modern than the ones I can remember?

Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's Dead in Irons is the most dystopic one I can think of.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Carthag Tuek posted:

Banks' "Culture" series are set in a nominal utopia that has some uncomfortable implications. Also the protagonists are usually outsiders.
Geidi Prime is also a dystopia, so does parts of Dune count if you read them as a shortstory?

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

yaffle posted:

Thanks, It's "Rammer" btw
Does anyone have any recommendations for dystopian space travel short stories? Preferably more modern than the ones I can remember?

I can't think of any short stories offhand, but Stephen Baxter's 'Titan' is one of the most dystopian space travel novels I've run across.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Alistair Reynolds has some grungy ship stuff that kind of fits the bill for dystopian space.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

A short novel rather than a short story, but The Void Captain's Tale is bleak as all hell.

Cordwainer Smith also had a line of weird space travel stories, like "Scanners Live in Vain," "The Lady Who Sailed the Soul," "The Burning of the Brain," "The Game of Rat and Dragon," and "The Colonel Came Back from Nothing-At-All," among others.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Selachian posted:

A short novel rather than a short story, but The Void Captain's Tale is bleak as all hell.

Cordwainer Smith also had a line of weird space travel stories, like "Scanners Live in Vain," "The Lady Who Sailed the Soul," "The Burning of the Brain," "The Game of Rat and Dragon," and "The Colonel Came Back from Nothing-At-All," among others.

Ian Watson has some seriously gloomy space travel shorts too, though I'm not going to remember titles unless I can find my collections of his - his titles tend to be... somewhat gnomic.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

How you can help my wife with this one

Sci-Fi/Fantasy never, probably released sometime between 1995-2005.

Believe it was a series of books.

The main sorry revolves around a group of people who time traveled, possibly realm traveling. When traveling you would end up in the body of someone else (Much like Travelers), however your eyes would remain the same. This is how The travelers could identify other travelers they knew. Specifically the bad guys who has very distinct eyes.

Any ideas?

Lot 49
Dec 7, 2007

I'll do anything
For my sweet sixteen
That's the right time/genre/basic plot for Otherland by Tad Williams.

The characters do change bodies iirc and I have very faint memories of a bad guy with unusual eyes but it's been too long to remember the details.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Apparently its probably not that one. The book length was probably about 1/3 of the length that outland appears to be.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
So I read this weird I guess graphic novel when I was a kid (probably 80s) where a group of humans in space end up colonizing the Earth while humanity was still in caves. It starts with them trying to establish a colony isolated from the cave people but then eventually people start comingling, having families and such and there's some incident where a local gets blasted by a laser for some reason. Ring a bell to anybody?

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
I guess this is the place to post this. My wife has been pondering a mystery novel she read somewhere in the hazy age of 2006-2010. Really trying to dig deep about what the name was. I have transcribed her memory rant and post it here. I hope you experts can help me. She found it. But I am not letting all this typing go to waste.

She bought it at a Barns and Noble. Mystery section. British, all the words had u's in it. The cover has two tones: a green jacket incorporating a key shape and a gold inlay. It wasn't a series. Adamant on that. 470ish pages, THICC paperback. Would fit in her big purse, but not her small purse. Structurally it was like Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. Tonally like Atonement.

Story details are as follows: It was about twin girls: one good one evil. This guy employs a writer to find out the mystery of these twin girls. A dude who isn't a detective becomes a detective.

The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

cda posted:

I'm looking for a science fiction short story. The premise is that because of overpopulation or something, people only live on alternate days and they get put in stasis on the other days, so for example one person would live Monday Wednesday and Friday, and the other one would live Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday, and then maybe every other Sunday or something like that. My memory is hazy and Google hasn't helped.

It is contained in "Invisible Planets:Contemporary Chinese Science Fiction In Translation" The story in that is Folding Beijing by Hao Jingfang


I have closed my loop. I'm OUT

Isolationist
Oct 18, 2005

The implication.

Tsietisin posted:

Apparently its probably not that one. The book length was probably about 1/3 of the length that outland appears to be.

Otherland was about five different books, and any of them have a weird-eyed guy from The Grail Brotherhood (lead by Jongleur, weird eyed psychopathic antagonist dude was an Australian aborigine named John "Dredd"/Anubis Walgaru). A lot of ancient Egyptian iconography, worth running that past her :).

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



I think I posted my request in this thread ages ago, but I can't find it. I've been looking for this for over a decade now, everyone I've spoken to about it thinks I made it up, and I was convinced I was until I found someone on Goodreads asking about the exact same book.

It was a children's book, possibly a short story in an anthology. Read it in the UK when I was in primary school, so no later than 1995. My memories are that it was by a British author because of the terminology used, but I could be wrong there too.

It's about a boy who is fed up with life and wants to become a petrol pump (or gas pump.) He leaves school one day and walks for miles until he ends up by the side of a road somewhere. He sticks his finger in his ear like a pump and a man comes along and tries to pump petrol from him. The boy is nervous and can't so the man kicks him in the shins and then either he or someone else forces him to swallow an abacus(?)

Eventually the boy becomes a working petrol pump and one day his parents pump gas from him. He recognizes them but can't tell them it's him because, he's a petrol pump. One of his parents remarks that their son loved petrol pumps as they drive away.

Seriously i've tried Google, Goodreads, various other search engines and absolutely nobody knows what this story is. If someone could find out i'll happily reward them with an SA gift cert.

EDIT - I'm pretty sure it's not by Paul Jennings, even though it's exactly the sort of story he would write.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



What the hell

Jazz Marimba
Jan 4, 2012

Carthag Tuek posted:

What the hell

:emptyquote:

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Carthag Tuek posted:

What the hell

I swear it's real!

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Section 9
Mar 24, 2003

Hair Elf

Dell_Zincht posted:

I think I posted my request in this thread ages ago, but I can't find it. I've been looking for this for over a decade now, everyone I've spoken to about it thinks I made it up, and I was convinced I was until I found someone on Goodreads asking about the exact same book.

It was a children's book, possibly a short story in an anthology. Read it in the UK when I was in primary school, so no later than 1995. My memories are that it was by a British author because of the terminology used, but I could be wrong there too.

It's about a boy who is fed up with life and wants to become a petrol pump (or gas pump.) He leaves school one day and walks for miles until he ends up by the side of a road somewhere. He sticks his finger in his ear like a pump and a man comes along and tries to pump petrol from him. The boy is nervous and can't so the man kicks him in the shins and then either he or someone else forces him to swallow an abacus(?)

Eventually the boy becomes a working petrol pump and one day his parents pump gas from him. He recognizes them but can't tell them it's him because, he's a petrol pump. One of his parents remarks that their son loved petrol pumps as they drive away.

Seriously i've tried Google, Goodreads, various other search engines and absolutely nobody knows what this story is. If someone could find out i'll happily reward them with an SA gift cert.

EDIT - I'm pretty sure it's not by Paul Jennings, even though it's exactly the sort of story he would write.

This sounds familiar, I think I may have read this but it would have been in the 80’s in the US. I have a vague memory of pretty unsettling (for a child) illustrations of the transformation in simple black and white drawings? Google brought up Shel Silverstein as a suggestion and it sounds like it would fit into one of his collections but I couldn’t find any definite connections.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Section 9 posted:

This sounds familiar, I think I may have read this but it would have been in the 80’s in the US. I have a vague memory of pretty unsettling (for a child) illustrations of the transformation in simple black and white drawings? Google brought up Shel Silverstein as a suggestion and it sounds like it would fit into one of his collections but I couldn’t find any definite connections.

Had a look and it's probably not him. I remember the art style being colour and decidedly British. I'm 98% certain it was British author.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Dell_Zincht posted:

I think I posted my request in this thread ages ago, but I can't find it. I've been looking for this for over a decade now, everyone I've spoken to about it thinks I made it up, and I was convinced I was until I found someone on Goodreads asking about the exact same book.

It was a children's book, possibly a short story in an anthology. Read it in the UK when I was in primary school, so no later than 1995. My memories are that it was by a British author because of the terminology used, but I could be wrong there too.

It's about a boy who is fed up with life and wants to become a petrol pump (or gas pump.) He leaves school one day and walks for miles until he ends up by the side of a road somewhere. He sticks his finger in his ear like a pump and a man comes along and tries to pump petrol from him. The boy is nervous and can't so the man kicks him in the shins and then either he or someone else forces him to swallow an abacus(?)

Eventually the boy becomes a working petrol pump and one day his parents pump gas from him. He recognizes them but can't tell them it's him because, he's a petrol pump. One of his parents remarks that their son loved petrol pumps as they drive away.

Seriously i've tried Google, Goodreads, various other search engines and absolutely nobody knows what this story is. If someone could find out i'll happily reward them with an SA gift cert.

EDIT - I'm pretty sure it's not by Paul Jennings, even though it's exactly the sort of story he would write.

Is this the goodreads request? https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/19562796-boy-commits-suicide-by-turning-into-a-gas-pump-early-90s

I'm intrigued. Have you tried other words for pump. (bowser, dispensor in particular)?

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
Interesting detail in that discussion.

quote:

Rainbowheart
Oct 03, 2018 09:35PM

Petrol pump = British?

quote:

Leyna
Oct 04, 2018 11:37AM

No sorry gas pump. Definitely a U.S. book.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



branedotorg posted:

Is this the goodreads request? https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/19562796-boy-commits-suicide-by-turning-into-a-gas-pump-early-90s

I'm intrigued. Have you tried other words for pump. (bowser, dispensor in particular)?

Yeah, that's literally the only other place on the internet i've found discussion about the book. OP is convinced it's a US book, i'm convinced it's British.

(I did PM them a few months ago but didn't get a reply.)

Easy-Bake Coven
Sep 18, 2006

B - E - H - A - V - E
never more


Fun Shoe

Dell_Zincht posted:

Yeah, that's literally the only other place on the internet i've found discussion about the book. OP is convinced it's a US book, i'm convinced it's British.

(I did PM them a few months ago but didn't get a reply.)

It's pretty common for the US edition of British books, especially children's books, to be edited in regards to spelling and vocabulary, and vice versa. Harry Potter and the philosopher's stone was released as Harry Potter and the sorcerer's stone in the US, for example.

So originally it could be either, but at least that might be a sign that it was popular enough to get both a British and an US edition.

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Morbid Hound

Dell_Zincht posted:

I think I posted my request in this thread ages ago, but I can't find it. I've been looking for this for over a decade now, everyone I've spoken to about it thinks I made it up, and I was convinced I was until I found someone on Goodreads asking about the exact same book.

It was a children's book, possibly a short story in an anthology. Read it in the UK when I was in primary school, so no later than 1995. My memories are that it was by a British author because of the terminology used, but I could be wrong there too.

It's about a boy who is fed up with life and wants to become a petrol pump (or gas pump.) He leaves school one day and walks for miles until he ends up by the side of a road somewhere. He sticks his finger in his ear like a pump and a man comes along and tries to pump petrol from him. The boy is nervous and can't so the man kicks him in the shins and then either he or someone else forces him to swallow an abacus(?)

Eventually the boy becomes a working petrol pump and one day his parents pump gas from him. He recognizes them but can't tell them it's him because, he's a petrol pump. One of his parents remarks that their son loved petrol pumps as they drive away.

Seriously i've tried Google, Goodreads, various other search engines and absolutely nobody knows what this story is. If someone could find out i'll happily reward them with an SA gift cert.

EDIT - I'm pretty sure it's not by Paul Jennings, even though it's exactly the sort of story he would write.

You're sure this wasn't a bizarre dream?

Searching "gas pump" and "children's book" finds

quote:

There are also gas station-themed children’s books including Pete, the Pup and The Gas Station Man by James L Hymes and Gas Station Gus by Dorothy Kunhardt. Gas Station Charlie by Karen Grassmuck Kraushaar is a non-fiction children’s book about a lovable golden retriever who helps out around the pumps – is that legal?

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