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DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
Put a wrx engine in it. Ive never seen one of these with a flat four but i know you can do it on the 1st gen.

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DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

Darchangel posted:

Oh, absolutely. I want to put those little V8s in so much stuff, but there's no way it would ever be affordable.


... I have several non-running first gens. I am intrigued, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


That actually could have worked if they'd not failed at the grille. A '40 Ford grille would work with the body lines. I can see that's what they were going for, but ended up with... that. Possibly because of space/structure issues. Or just an unwillingness to break out the sawzall.


Seriously, just leave the Ferrari emblems off and it would be fine, though I prefer the original Fiero grid taillights, myself. I mean, literally the only mod is the taillights.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/17pfgs/subaru_powered_first_gen_mazda_rx7/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_list

This is the most recent. To add power its gonna have to be all motor unless you want to get into modifying the frame. He says in the comments he couldnt get dohc heads to fit.

E: needs a second gen subframe and steering.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I didnt remember it wasnt turbo which sucks. Its probably more power than stock though and wouldnt upset balance too much. If you have an rx7 sitting around with no engine why not. It would be pretty cheap.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
A potent 4 banger would definetly be the horsepower option. If its possible a turbo 944 would be another good option because they mount those slanted and i think its in the same ballpark weight wise. Anything that keeps the front end light imo is the way to go otherwise you are just building a supra.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
"Exhaust is loud cause cars low lol"

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
http://i.imgur.com/dIknTh3.jpg

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/1972-dodge-demon-john-petrie/6227938835.html

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
That was actually a low point at ford and we found out later they actually were cheating the roof crush test a couple years after this. Assuming it was mostly the same people in charge its hard not to wonder if they knew and didnt care.

At the same time porsches still had a fuel tank sitting above your legs this whole time and ive never heard of them catching poo poo for it. I mean honestly theres not a whole lot of good places to put one. Kinda nature of the beast thing.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I say this as an rx8 owner, the rx8 did a terrible disservice to other rotories dragging the reputation through the mud. I wouldnt be surprised if it hurts the older gens value a bit. If the next one becomes a thing and is a hit theres probably money to be made on that rebound. Imo the rotory didnt have a reputation for anything other than being low torque high revving and unique prior to the renesis. Then it was "lol apex seals" and $400 deflooding procedures by rear end in a top hat dealers, culminating in the ceo saying it was all a mistake and he was sorry.

I love that car, and you have to love that car, if you just want a rwd sports car, why not go with literally any other rwd on the market without this reputation? Anybody that wants one probably owns one, or one and 4 donors etc.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
The went from winning le mans to an unmitigated disaster of an engine that could very well grenade at 35k miles because of an admitted design flaw. I mean yeah the seals failed before but in a reasonable amount of time and its not unheard of to get 300k out of them. Used ones were always a gamble because it may have not been properly cared for, but thats not the same as an assured failure in an unreasonably short time which was the basis of the recall. They couldnt even give you a replacement that fixed the issue. I get what yall are saying, im just saying theres no way that didnt effect the publics perception of all their models. The community changed pretty dramitcally as well. It's kinda one of the more unpleasant ones now to put it lightly.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

Darchangel posted:

Yeah, he's talking about the RX-8 as the one that explodes at 35K miles. My personal FC RX-87 has 226K miles on it so far, and I even had to unstick the motor from sitting after I bought it.
Same old story with auto manufacturers: we have this solid, reliable thing. How can we make it cheaper? Oops! Less reliable now, too.
Actually, I haven't done a lot of research into the Renesis flaws. Is it just the ECU/fueling, or is it something inherent with the MSPRE design?

Thats impressive actually. Yeah its believed to be port design that caused it and it also severly limits the amount of air you can get into the engine even through forced induction limiting it to around 350hp. There was a long and ugly debate about carbon deposits and it certainly does cause issues and failures but imo that was all a desperate hope it wasnt a fundamental problem that couldnt be solved.

I dunno i really dont like talking about it because of the drama it creates. People hang on to and swear by their secret voodoo thats going to save that engine. Theres really nothing you can do, and on top of that the variance engine to engine is absurd. Its the only car i know of that can regularly gain 20hp without changing any parts just by calibrating the maf sensor and fine tuning the fuel map. They run a generic map that can cover huge differences engine to engine. On top of that build quality and casting were questionable.

I'm sure there are other takes on it but thats the fundamental difference between the two engines. Through the course of the renesis they tried all the little fixes the community swore was the cause it didnt change a drat thing.

E: that all that said people that rebuilt with better side and apex seals did better if i recall so there is something to that too. I dont remember exactly but there was a theory that the seals were not having pressure applied evenly or where the wrong thickness. There may have been something to it but its probably only part of the puzzle imo. I dont think anybody rebuilds to factory specs as they are generally considered wrong which is alarm bells right there.

DogonCrook fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Aug 14, 2017

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

Cop Porn Popper posted:

From what I could gather, one of the most common failures involved a lack of oiling on the side seals where they passed over the ports, which mazda did attempt to address with an added oil injection port. For whatever its worth, the changes from the series 1 to the series 2 motors did make a difference and most series 2 renesis motors are expected to make it to or over 100k miles wheras a series 1 will generally be expected to fail around 60k. And there are a few people that have series 1 renesis motors well over 100k on the original factory motors. A mechanic at a local shop being one of them with 130k miles on his '04 rx8 that he doesn't do anything special to, just drives.

There were also issues with the earlier renesis motors being recommended to run on a much lighter oil than the series 2 motors that was a cause of legitimate issues. In short, the rx8 is a fun and quirky car with an interesting, yet heavily maintenance intensive and problematic engine. After 2 friends buying them and experiencing them, I will own one some day.

By design you dont want too much or thicker oil. It comes with its own problems and failures in a rotory. They didnt choose the wrong oil they built the wrong engine. And i mean 100k is a lemon. It is what it is.

That said if you know what you are getting into by all means. Its a rewarding car for sure and if you work on them yourself none of this is a problem other than maintenance being higher but it does also have nicer components than the typical car in its price range accounting for some of that cost. The failures generally aren't catstrophic either and happen with plenty of notice which blunts the pain quite a bit. Imo its just closer to owning an airplane or something and you dont want to wait for anything to get out of whack or fail.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

financially racist posted:

as rotaries are real easy to get to run on hydrogen,one way a rotary could work today is if hydrogen fuel cells ever get onto the consumer market in a meaningful way, but for that to happen we need a way to cheaply isolate hydrogen atoms. i don't see that happening at all though, so they are prolly dead. maybe a hybrid rotary-electric could work? i dunno. all i know is that even though i had the lowly 12a, i really enjoyed the power curve and revvi-ness of my rx7 and miss it a lot.

Yeah if they give up on torque and use an electric motor for that and use a rotory tuned for high rpm theres a good weight balanced hybrid that could be made.

People started getting somewhere peripheral porting them, but all anybody can do with the current design is demonstrate it works at these power levels. Presumambly mazda decided to not do this for a reason though and nobody knows how it would work if you increase airflow significantly and add power. The current design cant be ported enough to find out out. A lot of this stuff is way over my head but if you dig around people have done some pretty interesting things as hobbyists so i hope mazda is playing with this stuff too. There are still tricks to try imo.

And mazda to their credit willed this nonsensical engine into being in the first place. I dont think it needs a rational case just that same mentality at the executive levels. Mazda seems fine with it not actually being a money maker but more of a flagship design exercise or loss leader. I mean it's basically a link to Japan's greatest automotive achievement. I dont think they will walk away from that because of bad gas mileage.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
It goes some light airplanes and those dolphin looking sub/pwc now. Its a really compact engine and there are situations it would make a lot of sense in. A constant rpm applicatiom avoids nearly all the downsides to them too. There are reasons besides just cars to pursue it but i dont know if that ultimately matters.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I thought they were going ahead with it already. If thats not case, yeah it wont resurface without a breakthrough. I looked up design of the new one to me looks worse when it comes to heat, not better and it still has a 90 bend right before the intake port with no way to deal with heat transfer from the exhaust. Then they moved the catalytic converter closer and added a turbo. That thing will burn with the heat of a thousand suns. I have my doubts.

E: and yeah the forums during this time were mega loving sad. People were putting serious goddamn effort into saving these cars
Just doing everything, and it was a total crapshoot at the end of the day. The rebuilds were somehow worse. I mean what do you even say to someone when they dont get to 50k on two engines combined lol.

DogonCrook fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Aug 14, 2017

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
Yeah, sorry.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
Yeah i have a swinger i didn't know it had such a weird name. It explains why im having a hard time searching for a horn button with the logo. That 1910 db logo os pretty cool too.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
They did on some. Mine had the fratzog logo steering wheel with 3 horn buttons, its a 72. The plastic didnt hold up well and i can find the wheel but not the horn pad part of it. Ill probably go with a horn ring style because it looks better anyways.

E: still cant fund one but searching fratzog returns tons more emblem goodies than i waa finding before.

DogonCrook fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Aug 23, 2017

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
Also trim peices on that merc can be ludicrously expensive esp the interior. check it real good dont make the mistake of thinking, oh ill just slap a new whatever on without googling what it actually costs. The wood trim on the old ones is crazy expensive to replace.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I mean the flipside is that if the trim is good its a drat good selling point. I wouldnt be surprised if the trim is worth more than everything its attached to.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

KakerMix posted:

Are American V8s somehow rare? All SSRs could disappear along with all the H2s and nothing would be lost besides very easy to mock targets.

Add that weird rear end plymouth roadster thing to that list.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

IOwnCalculus posted:

How many cars (from "regular" manufacturers) in the last 20 years have either held steady or increased from launch-year MSRP? All I can think of is the Ford GT and the R35 GTR.

The gt dropped for awhile i thought. The bugatti veryon and p1 i think both claimed it as a selling point.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I feel like you could pull it off if you looked like this.

http://i.imgur.com/IDH0NVe.jpg

Thats marvin zindler but imagine he was an art dealer or something i bet he would rock it.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I had a car that needed a bond texas I knew about it but tried anyways without it and they didnt say poo poo at the dmv lol. I dunno its crapshoot i guess but how good is the dmv's training anyways? They seem just as likely to reject your correct paperwork as they are to not give a poo poo or be completely oblivious how they should handle it.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

Autoexec.bat posted:

Here in Georgia anything 1963-1985 just needs a bill of sale, a title bond, and have the police inspect it to make sure it's not stolen and you can get a title for cases like that.

Actually that may be why, it was a 75. It came with an affidavit that it wasnt stolen instead of a title because Connecticut does something weird like that instead of issuing new titles if they are lost. So heads up about Connecticut cars, it can be a bitch if your state is picky. Most of the old cars there are rust buckets though so it shouldnt come up much lol.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
On top of everything else it really bugs me he didnt also spray the bumper and inner fender.

E: oh haha he rolled it while it was stock, then lifted it, but now its "very solid" just a bit rough in the fit and finish lol.

DogonCrook fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Sep 10, 2017

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
The 360 is getting harder to find cheap. 318 was low on power but its a good cruiser with massive torque with some basic go fast bits. Its actually a bit of a problem because at 250hp you are starting to make north of 500lbft. A lot of people just run one gear or a super long rearend and cruise it. Doing the latter you can get 25mpg and still smoke your tires everytime you even think about touching the pedal.

Also im not sure if there is a more reliable engine than a 318 and its dirt cheap.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

DiggityDoink posted:

The Jeep 4.0 would like a word with you.

I mean two cylinders didn't even show up for work thats pretty unreliable.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

MomJeans420 posted:

2008 Jaguar XKR with 169k miles for $10,990



The low mileage ones seem to be around $23k to $27k, so you can save $13k for any needed repairs. I'm glad it's not a black interior, otherwise I'd be convincing myself that a 169k mile Jaguar is actually more reliable than a 50k mile one.

Bunch of ford an Lincoln parts and accessories on them too. Im not sure if thats better or worse than jag parts honestly but they are cheaper to replace.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
Growing up at the end of my street was a biker dude that lived with 3 huge ladies. He was obsessed with metros and had a bunch in rotation that the ladies would drive and he would work on them and never drive them, he always stuck to the harley. They didnt have anywhere to go i guess so each of them would get in a car with a dog and take the dogs for a drive. Like a parade of fat ladies with barking dogs in metros twice a day everyday. It was so goddamned weird. Geo metro's kinda spook me now especially a group of them lol.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
A guy in houston used to run one with a big rear end tractor turbo about the size of the block itself and stock looking tires. It was like watching a gasser run. It would smoke the tires the whole way. I couldnt find a video but heres a rwd conversion. Aparently if you build a frame and shorten the axle a buick gnx will fit in there. Kinda sad use of a turbo gnx engine but whatever. 9 sec in a geo metro kinda makes up for it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j89gCCuA57o

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I had a 740 that killed 2 transmissions i dont know about the others but the 740 was definetly one of the bad models. I forget what failed but it would only go in reverse both times.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
Pretty good looking 79 civic.

https://i.imgur.com/5w4apAi.jpg

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/1979-honda-civic-new-paint/6344721509.html

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I have a 14 model t. It sucks balls lol. Its all original, i got it for free and it took like 20 mins to get it running. They arent worth poo poo but its kinda neat. Real handfull to drive. I dont gently caress with it anymore because a misfire starting will snap your arm like a twig. You are really gambling trying to crank one and it aint fun so there isnt much point in owning one for anything but a display. You could probably put a starter but then you start ruining the novelty of what it is imo.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
The biggest cause of them is the timing being too advanced but that was easy to mess up because the timing is a lever on the wheel and you are just kinda going off what its been running at and your gut feel what is gonna get it to fire. Throttle is a lever too so you are walking back and forth trying to get it right so failing to start is exhausting and there is a sort of the tempatation to push it up a bit and welp. Theoretically if you pull up with your left hand and dont wrap your thumb it cant get you but even knowing that that fear is there man lol.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters

Applebees Appetizer posted:

So apparently people were breaking arms in the 1914's trying to start their models T's? Jesus.

I literally got it because i told my grandfather about it (it was an honest to god old lady barn find) and he was like "thats the one that broke my arm" he was like 8 years old too lol.

DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
The thing about a model t is there is cruising speed and stopped, theres no in between so not having power steering isnt a problem but its pretty light anyways. Thats why they kinda suck in traffic. Accelerating requires throttle on the left hand and timing on the right so really during this transition phase good luck steering you only have 2 hands but it is designed to require 3.

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DogonCrook
Apr 24, 2016

I think my 20 years as hurricane chaser might be a little relevant ive been through more hurricanws than moat shiitty newscasters
I mean i wouldnt have expected that to be a reasonable price either, thats holding its value like a truck. I guess it is a truck though.

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