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Adonro posted:Yeah, what the hell are you talking about? I don't see the commonalities. You can barely spend an hour on 4chan/b/ these days without extremely dodgy porn appearing. Moot (the owner) vowed to stamp out 'gray area' (borderline child porn) as well as, ironically, raiding. Instead he abandoned the board to forced anonymity and 'janitors' who merely delete the former, banning individual IPs among a community that pride themselves on gathering proxies, and ignore the latter. He apparently found the earlier Fox story a laugh, but I've a feeling this time it is going to blow up in his face.
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Slave posted:I dont think they could do anything to 4chan anyway, the community there may have organised it but when I went there looking for information the mods had been banning people who were talking about it left right and center. Seriously? Too little too late. I popped in months ago and saw them talking about this. Admittedly most of the response was 'they're too big to take on' (I wonder how they persuaded themselves?), but no one was getting banned then.
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Orac posted:Plus they have even more users that SA, are they going to sue them all? No, just get the servers closed down for a few weeks. None of the other chans has the bandwidth to support so many users (look what happens when 4chan goes down for a day), and most of them won't bother to use IRC.
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Space Kimchi posted:If you think the people doing the majority of the heavy lifting for this are people who would give up if 4chan.org went down, you're pretty loving naive. If you look back I wasn't talking about whether the attack would continue, but about 4chan itself.
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semi semite posted:Why aren't people using torrent for these heavy hit files? Because then everyone that uploads is liable for prosecution, unless they proxy their torrent client (which is relatively non-trivial). With a third party only one person needs to upload through a proxy, the others are committing no crime.
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semi semite posted:I dunno, scamming and murdering is bad and all, but is that "win" document so much loonier than talking about reaching a state of nirvana? Yes it is. If someone achieves enlightenment we wouldn't know. If someone achieves infinite power, couldn't they demonstrate just a little bit?
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Jan 24, 2008 23:05
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drcru posted:...Tom Cruise has a level of over 9000? Great job on avoiding the stupid catchphrases.
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davebo posted:I've loved anything scientology-related on SA and even ytmnd for years but this is great to see stuff in the mainstream media, and I hope it just gets bigger and bigger. In fairness it's the Panorama programme and the Andrew Morton book that got the ball rolling. The Internet-related stuff is just riding in the wake this time.
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The Finn posted:The Tom Cruise video broke like one day before Morton's book hit shelves here in the States, the timing couldn't have been better. For me it was the Cruise video that got the ball rolling There are lots of rumours that that was no coincidence. Morton's very media savvy.
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Jan 24, 2008 23:26
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Megaspel posted:This sounds incredibly stupid, but, would it be possible to somehow find an Al Quaeda website place? I suppose from there it would be quite easy to turn them against Scientology. Oh God, I'm having flashbacks to reading 711chan last night. They even said 'we should get the Islams involved' (also Christians).
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Jan 24, 2008 23:38
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BiscuitErsedRenton posted:Wow, I'd say this is the worst idea ever. "Interesting, these ill-educated child pornographers want us to attack a religion"
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Jan 24, 2008 23:43
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This sounds incredibly stupid, but, would it be possible to establish a Taliban-style government in the United States? I suppose from there it would be quite easy to turn them against Scientology.
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skitzish posted:"Well class, can anyone tell me how scientology fell?" "Well, class, can anyone tell me why Scientology's websites were inaccessible for a couple of days?"
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skitzish posted:I like to think for the better, happier ending to this, which will be scientology spending all its money in lawsuits to bring these kids down, and then it ending, and then scientology publicly looks bad, and has a lot less money. That's the plan? They overcommit their massive resources to lawyers' fees?
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Bigopinion posted:If nothing else, these guys should at least get credit for somehow getting their hands on Spirit of Will self-help indoctrination-who-knows-what CDs and making them readily available on p2p networks last night. Agreed. But do you want to make a bet with me about the church being 'brought down' in the next year?
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bam fifteen posted:FALSE. Unlike in Austrian Roman Catholicism.
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Since we're just supposing that they follow South Park (which is pretty much true), I'd like to see 4chan versus the Vatican.
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Jan 25, 2008 12:10
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tehfox0r posted:They have now started what appears to be "Operation Phonebill," which includes finding a pay phone, dialing Scientology's 1-800 numbers, and hanging up. Apparently in the U.S. there is some FCC mandate that requires all operators of 800 numbers to pay some 50¢ charge for every pay phone connection. Anonymous is going to go to a phone booth, call, let an automated machine pick up, then hang up. Over and over, with hundreds doing it simultaneously to rack up serious charges on their hotlines. Now that's more like a plan. 50c, though? Anyone seen that in black and white? Surely there's a charge, but that's steep.
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Do they have an 0800 number in the UK? (Kind of difficult to find out right now!)
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toadee posted:I'm not sure, this link may provide more info but god, the legalease, I just can't read this right now: http://www.payphone-project.com/payphones/fcc/payphone_calls_subject_to_this_rulemaking_and_compensation_amount/ Ahhh, I'm being dumb - a supplementary charge to support the use specifically of payphones (particularly because the US has no national network supporting these).
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Sanchless posted:Because it has illegally high rates of asbestos OT8's are dying from cancer. Absestosis is a disease almost exclusively caused by working regularly directly with asbestos, mesothelioma is a cancer but is even rarer.
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Someone doesn't understand Google bombing. e: Wait: quote:A spokesman for the Church of Scientology, which appears to have resurrected some sites, was quoted as saying that the Church was not the "right target" for such attacks. "These types of people have got some wrong information about us," the spokesman said. This is so shoddily written it's not even worthy of Murdoch! BeastUK fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Jan 25, 2008 |
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Luckythedonkey1 posted:I understand google bombing Sorry, fixed, I meant The Times (not you).
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Technowrite posted:Jesus tap dancing Christ, they some how got a copy of the whole Tom Cruise video. The clip we saw was just a small sample of a 45 minute masterpiece: Well, over goes MediaFire.
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40 OZ posted:What the gently caress?!!! Scientology responds! This is convincing.
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Jan 25, 2008 14:40
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NineBreaker posted:I'm at work and can't get youtube here but it's the grave shift and it's empty. What's the quickbit of this? Anonymous don't get the response they want so they fake one.
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Tyma posted:major political uprising I ran out into the street beating my fist in the air, but no one seemed to know that the revolution is upon us.
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BugZapperJesus posted:the problem is, like Hal Turner, the CoS keeps reacting. They do?
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Dr. Video Games 0097 posted:Na, there's a couple of loonies in the horde who are trying to rabble rabble poo poo up, but it's really dumb and everyone knows it. Yeah, no true
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Thomson posted:It's pretty much more of the same if you've already seen the 10-min clip, except with infinitely more dramatics, and a really stupidly big medal: Yeah, I thought I'd seen stuff on tv that wasn't in the YouTube as we had it. Is this really new itself?
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Sadly leaving off the capital makes Scientology look more, rather than less, legitimate. I.e. treating it like it's an actual word, not just a (trade) name.
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snolliemonsters posted:It is still down for me, maybe because i am in France? The Scientologists are probably just on strike there 
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Rudy Kadett posted:Yes and no. I'm not going to derail the whole topic but you could consider that the Bible was kinda free to read. If you could read Latin, and you could afford yourself a hand-copied, illustrated Bible on velin or parchment. Why do you think the Reformation succeeded? Printing press, that's why. You could draw some analogies but I guess you could always do that with everything. The Protestant Reformation  I'm not going to tear your argument apart but if we're going to drop this those are pretty retarded last words.
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Hey Fingercuffs posted:Last night I thought of something crazy that I think should be taken into consideration. Maybe, just MAYBE Tom knows how crazy Scientology is. Perhaps he is looking for a way out, so he got someone to release this video knowing it would be the straw that broke the camels back. But it was made years ago, wasn't it? You mean he's been biding his time, waiting for an unofficial biography launch?
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Mistegirl posted:I was thinking about fliers that just had in huge text "Google Lisa McPherson" What about stickers with a gravestone with the gold Scientology logo at the top and 'RIP Lisa McPherson' on? People are more likely to check up if it's enigmatic, rather than telling them to do something.
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Randomness posted:RTC would sue for using their logo. Sue who? Stickering is a pretty anonymous activity. \/\/\/ It's always up and down like a tart's knickers.
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Mistegirl posted:I like that, just need to find out where to get bunches printed for cheap. Printing your own is easy enough if you work in an office (mailing labels in the colour printer while no one's around), but I can't photoshop. Another eye catching one is to print on acetates (easily pinched if you're around a university), and guilotine into flyers (then people can pick them up and go Google).
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Man, I was only on the train for half an hour, this has moved on! For all I've been laughing at the 'tell the Islams' idea, this stuff about Jesus is definitely contrary to the Qur'an.
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k3nn posted:http://cp.lulzhost.net/view.php?id=GH1DroO25mxNOy quote:k3nn: zOMG, check dis Standard fayre for 4chan.
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InvisibleMonkey posted:Wait, is Xenu the good guy or the bad guy? He's LRH's
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