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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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Grimey Drawer

I say go into Talking Heads chronologically. All their albums are Great.

Keep in mind Eno didnít start producing until their 2nd album, More Songs About Buildings and Food, and itís really where they became The Talking Heads.

Stop Making Sense is a perfect concert film, but I think it pays off to see how they got there. If you hear their full live band performance first and then go back to Ď77 where itís just the four of them, it may feel sparse in a punk sorta way.

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Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

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If you're going to go with a live album, I would actually suggest The Name of this Band is Talking Heads.

Especially the expanded double CD version Rhino did - the second disc is one of my favorite live discs and it's where they started working with some of the people they did on Stop Making Sense.

But if their studio albums - I would start with Fear of Music.

It's the right balance of weird and angular but still accessible. You got Life During Wartime which is one that got and gets a lot of radio play. You got Byrne perfecting the songs about mundane topics perfectly with Cities. You got great new wave freakouts like Memories Can't Wait, and you got a great ballad with Heaven. I Zimbra just rules.

77 and More Songs About Buildings and People are good albums, but they can be a bit tough because Byrne is still growing as a song writer, and his eccentricities are on full display. There's plenty of great tracks.

Remain in Light is a fascinating album. The band has grown a lot, and the album consists of loops and repeating phrases. It's very much a funk record by way of Kraftwerk. There's a lot there to love. Crosseyed and Painless will get you dancing, The Great Curve is just powerfully sexy. Once in a Lifetime showed that they could write pop music even when doing something off the beaten path - it's definitely super accessible. The Overload is Byrne writing a Joy Division song based only on what he ready about the band.

Then we get to Speaking in Tongues. Burning Down the House, Girlfriend is Better, Swamp, Slippery People, Naive Melody - these are all great songs. It's more of a mix bag than their other albums, and a few of the tracks go on for far too long. It's a drop overall from what came before, but it's still really good.

Little Creatures is where the band becomes more straightforward in their sound. The highlights are still strong, but you feel like more of the songs don't work as well. And She Was, Road to Nowhere, The Lady Don't Mind - these are all great songs. But then you get Little Creatures and Walk It Down and even Television Man, and they're not bad songs, they're just not great.

True Stories feels worse for the wear. This is their poppiest album, and when it works, it is on fire. Wild Wild Life and Love For Sale - just great pop singles. People Like Us and Puzzling Evidence - fantastic deep cuts. But you get a lot of songs that feel forgettable. I can't tell you anything about Radio Head, except it gave us the band name.

Finally is Naked. This has (Nothing But) Flowers, and is really one of their best songs. It's a little overlong, and the band was really at a rough point all around. Blind is good. Ruby Dear I recall being good. But it's really the David Byrne show at this point.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019



Wow thanks for the recommendations

I gave Stop Making Sense the live version a listen, really enjoyed a lot of it, particularly liked Life During Wartime, enough to give Fear of Music a listen and this persons youtube track listing for it made me laugh out loud

0:00 - david byrne and his band go on a rampage in africa
3:05 - david byrne gives up on being a therapist
7:18 - david byrne tells you about how paper and optics work
9:58 - david byrne gives you a "detailed" tour of london
14:15 - david byrne walks around in new york
17:57 - david byrne eats edibles with david lynch and bangs his head on the wall
21:27 - david byrne gets sunburnt and complains
25:00 - it's boring, don't go there
29:02 - david byrne discovers furries and goes insane
32:32 - sentient electric guitar tells david byrne to buy a car on a highway and ends up committing a crime against the state of new york
35:34 - eno, those edibles aint shió

its odd, they sort of sound more quirky but also less quirky than i thought from a couple of singles, cool band though

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008



Cemetry Gator posted:

True Stories feels worse for the wear. This is their poppiest album, and when it works, it is on fire. Wild Wild Life and Love For Sale - just great pop singles. People Like Us and Puzzling Evidence - fantastic deep cuts. But you get a lot of songs that feel forgettable. I can't tell you anything about Radio Head, except it gave us the band name.

the complete soundtrack version of this record that came out with the criterion blu-ray is fantastic. you finally get all the character songs and the soundtrack pieces in one place

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


JollyBoyJohn posted:

its odd, they sort of sound more quirky but also less quirky than i thought from a couple of singles, cool band though

Basically theyíre extremely weird for a band of their stature but you can only be so weird while maintaining said stature.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

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I wouldn't have any appointment.



Grimey Drawer

Henchman of Santa posted:

Basically theyíre extremely weird for a band of their stature but you can only be so weird while maintaining said stature.

I learned recently that they were chasing their sound and eccentricities with Byrne and Enoís leadership until Tom Tom Clubís Genius of Love became a cultural phenomenon, before TH ever had a major hit single. After that Tina and Chris are trying to work with TH to make a bigger hit than Genius, so they have more creative control over the sounds and songs, but you also have Byrne and Eno compromising/sabotaging/changing songs in post without Tina and Chris.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007

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I am the mission!


I never heard of Tom Tom Club, and think that one track on Stop Making Sense is a blight on an otherwise classic performance. I can't believe it was popular.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



Tom Tom Club were kind of a fun band to see live.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007






Cemetry Gator posted:

True Stories feels worse for the wear. This is their poppiest album, and when it works, it is on fire. Wild Wild Life and Love For Sale - just great pop singles. People Like Us and Puzzling Evidence - fantastic deep cuts. But you get a lot of songs that feel forgettable. I can't tell you anything about Radio Head, except it gave us the band name.

True Stories is hard to appreciate without seeing the movie. Once you have it works a lot better.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



ultrafilter posted:

True Stories is hard to appreciate without seeing the movie. Once you have it works a lot better.

At the same time though, there are millions of incredible albums out there and if you never got around to listening to True Stories itís not a huge loss. Itís not a major work.

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IUG posted:

I never heard of Tom Tom Club, and think that one track on Stop Making Sense is a blight on an otherwise classic performance. I can't believe it was popular.

To be fair, at the very least that song became the basis for Mariah Carey's "Fantasy".

and Mark Morrisson's "Return of the Mack"!

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

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Franchescanado posted:

I learned recently that they were chasing their sound and eccentricities with Byrne and Eno’s leadership until Tom Tom Club’s Genius of Love became a cultural phenomenon, before TH ever had a major hit single. After that Tina and Chris are trying to work with TH to make a bigger hit than Genius, so they have more creative control over the sounds and songs, but you also have Byrne and Eno compromising/sabotaging/changing songs in post without Tina and Chris.

Where on earth did you hear that?

It literally makes no sense with the timing of things. Eno last produced Remain in Light back in 1980, after that, the band didn't work with him anymore. Genius of Love came out in 1981.

I know they band was pretty dysfunctional throughout most of the 80s, and I know creative vision was a big part of the conflict.

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Mar 5, 2011




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You gotta respect the fact that all the "we hate each other, never again" bands got back together from the 90s, but TH still refuse to despite the money.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007






I know David Byrne's had a long solo career, but has any of the rest of the band been recording?

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Elaborating from my last ask, what about Prince's various associates and side projects?

Here's what I've heard:

-Skip Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6, they're mediocre
-The Time rule
-Sheila E. rules
-Wendy and Lisa got screwed over majorly by Prince but have some fun solo work as well
-Madhouse was cool if you liked jazzy instrumentals

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009




ultrafilter posted:

I know David Byrne's had a long solo career, but has any of the rest of the band been recording?

Upthread there's David Byrne vs. Tina and Chris talk, overlooking poor Jerry Harrison. Jerry's put out I think three solo recordings, but has been quiet in recent years. I really like The Red And The Black, demonstrates that he was an important contributor to TH, not just a hired guitar. Jerry was one of the original Modern Lovers, too.

And then of course there's the classic "5 Minutes" by Bonzo Goes To Washington, Jerry's collaboration with Bootsy Collins.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

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ultrafilter posted:

I know David Byrne's had a long solo career, but has any of the rest of the band been recording?

Jerry Harrison did a few solo albums, but mainly did production. He worked with Live a lot, produced a song for No Doubt, and has done some guitar work.

Tina and Chris I believe did work as Tom Tom Club.

They all did a record called No Talking Just Heads.

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009



I think there was an album released under the name The Heads, which was without Byrne. They had different guest singers for each song. Itís sadly garbage.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment.



Grimey Drawer

Cemetry Gator posted:

Where on earth did you hear that?

It literally makes no sense with the timing of things. Eno last produced Remain in Light back in 1980, after that, the band didn't work with him anymore. Genius of Love came out in 1981.

I know they band was pretty dysfunctional throughout most of the 80s, and I know creative vision was a big part of the conflict.

I may have messed up some of the timeline with regards to Eno, but it's from Remain In Love, the memoir by Tina and Chris (so a bit biased against Byrne), and U Talkin' Talking Heads 2 My Talking Head podcast goes in depth about how Genius of Love was a sea change for the band, and all of Byrne's shenanigans behind Tina & Chris's back in post-production. The podcast interviews Jerry, and he's pretty polite in his interview, but his point about "When you're in a band with a married couple, either someone agrees with them or discussions end in a stalemate" corroborates a lot of the accounts that the podcast brings up with regards to Byrne vs Tina & Chris.

Sir Nose posted:

Upthread there's David Byrne vs. Tina and Chris talk, overlooking poor Jerry Harrison. Jerry's put out I think three solo recordings, but has been quiet in recent years. I really like The Red And The Black, demonstrates that he was an important contributor to TH, not just a hired guitar. Jerry was one of the original Modern Lovers, too.

And then of course there's the classic "5 Minutes" by Bonzo Goes To Washington, Jerry's collaboration with Bootsy Collins.

The Red and The Black rules and you're right, it highlights how much he brought to the band. He just seems to have the smallest ego among the Heads, so you just don't hear much about him when it comes to the drama.

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Terminally Bored
Oct 31, 2011



Attitude Indicator posted:

I think there was an album released under the name The Heads, which was without Byrne. They had different guest singers for each song. It’s sadly garbage.

There was, not to be mistaken for the Bristol, UK band The Heads which was and still is one of the very best heavy-psych outfits out there.

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