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quadrophrenic posted:Alice Donut? Most of people would probably say "Mule" but you should check out "Bucketfulls Of Sickness And Horror In An Otherwise Meaningless Life" first. It's pretty much an amalgam of all the stuff they did and they are triumphant at every point of it. "Egg" may well be the best song they ever did. [edit] beard trends posted:Merzbow? For Merzbow try his collaboration with Men of Porn. It's called "And The Devil Makes Three". It's fun in a way that Merzbow adds a thick layer of noise to Porn's stoner metal tracks. Some of the tracks are just destroyed by it, some gain on power. For Sun Ra, get "Jazz in Silhouette" then "Space is The Place". In the meantime you should check out his collab with Blues Project doing Batman theme songs, just to see how versatile this guy and his orchestra was. http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/02/sun_ra_and_the_.html Also, props for Nomeansno avatar. Terminally Bored fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 6, 2012 |
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nadabolt posted:someone help me with Ramleh!! also maybe direct me to some other Skullfloweresque essentials. For all things Ramleh, you should buy the fourth issue of the brilliant Niche Homo zine). http://nichehomo.blogspot.com/ It's got an extensive interview with the band and after reading it you'll be pretty much set. Also I'd recommend checking out Gravitar, especially "Edifier" album. Noise levels are off the charts there and that includes the Skip Spence cover (they play "Diana" of all things). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq8KDgO4CL8
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Friends Are Evil posted:Where should I start with for Beat Happening and Polvo? For Polvo it depends on what you're looking for. If it's fun and loud kung-fu-inspired math-rock, then go with their first two LPs. If you're more into more traditional song structures in rock look for "Exploded Drawing" or "This Eclipse" EP. I can totally understand newcomers getting really annoyed with their chaotic early recordings but they stood up to the test of time better than their later stuff. For Beat Happening check "Black Candy" and "You Turn Me On". The first one's got some fun dark vibes. The second is the classic. Also, check Tronics "Love Backed By Force" LP to see where Calvin Johnson got all of his poo poo from.
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Metal Loaf posted:What's a good starting point for the more obscure side of early proto-metal? I know bands like Vanilla Fudge and Captain Beyond in passing, but I'm interested in seeing what else there is Blue Cheer, Jerusalem, Sir Lord Baltimore, Iron Butterfly, Rotomagus, Pink Fairies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjbDzwjoQwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yFGGXMFp0w
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quadrophrenic posted:The Red Krayola? Try God Bless. Expect proto post-punkery.
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Les Rallizes Dénudés - '77 Live Miles Davis - Pangaea and Agharta Hawkwind - Space Ritual
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Fun Times! posted:from The Circus Leaves Town Keep in mind that Catamaran is actually a Yawning Man cover. You should check that band out too. I have to agree with people above - Blues For The Red Sun is just best parts of Kyuss condensed into one LP. Welcome To Sky Valley drags in places.
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Goatmask posted:Any recommendations on modern psychedelic rock groups? Something still reasonably accessible I guess? All due respect to the poster above - Tame Impala play psych-pop. They're not frontrunners of anything. Destruction Unit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djhUfSLhpfc Human Eye (last two LPs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5SGKIOJlSc White Hills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmrSQT0Yh9I Apache Dropout (first LP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMxaKrI3MyE The Black Angels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoNB1NW2u0A Causa Sui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4zAMHXBgF0
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Faux-rear end Nonsense posted:Steve Albini keeps turning up in some capacity or other on records which my flatmate shows me. They've been consistently excellent so far, but but there's also a load of them. I'm pretty into some of the math-rock type stuff he was involved with (Slint, Shellac) and I have a passing familiarity with PJ Harvey, The Pixies, Nirvana and the Manic Street Preachers. He is pretty straightforward, unfortunately. Not many people say this, but he makes bands from every genre sound really similar. He records drums very well and for the better part of 90s and early 00s people thought clear-sounding drums was the way to go. Compare how Mclusky sounded on their debut and on "Do Dallas" or newer Neurosis albums, for example. I think Neurosis really suffered because of his production, all their stuff post "Times of Grace" sounds powerless. Chronologically: Breeders – Pod Dazzling Killmen – Face of Collapse Oxbow - Serenade in Red Neurosis – Times of Grace Low – Things We Lost in the Fire Mclusky – Mclusky Do Dallas My Disco – Paradise You'll hear math stuff, loud rock stuff, metal, guitar indie, slowcore. "Things We Lost In The Fire" is his best engineering job so far, in my opinion. His attention to detail worked really well with Low.
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Groundbase posted:Where should I start with Jimi Hendrix? Depends what you're going to appreciate most. If you're looking for most well-known hits then check out the first two LPs with The Experience - "Are You Experienced?" and "Axis: Bold As Love ". If you like a bit of experimentation (especially in terms of heavy studio usage) then go with "Electric Ladyland". It's his masterpiece, there's styles, genres and ideas galore on that one. Then move on to "Band Of Gypsys" - it's Hendrix with a new band, playing new material. His other live albums vary in quality and there are a few decent rarities collections to be found but it's hard to recommend these a starting point.
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MmmDonuts posted:And where should I go with Pixies after Doolittle? Trompe Le Monde and Bossanova are both very different and very good albums. In fact, there are many people (myself included) who consider the former to be their strongest one. It's the heaviest album of theirs, they added synths and the biblical themes are gone replaced with sci-fi. They also split Subbacultcha into two great songs (check out their early demos). Bossanova, on the other hand was said to be their Beach Boys tribute album and it kinda succeeded in that regard. The surf themes are there but the strongest songs seem to be the weirdest ones: Down To The Well, Blown Away, All Over the World. Stormy Weather is also great to sing to when you're drunk and miserable. Dig for Fire is a Talking Heads rip-off, might be fun if you like that band. Disregard any of their most recent music. It's just terrible. I've never seen as strong a sign of a creative bankruptcy as naming a track "Indie Cindy".
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MmmDonuts posted:Where do I start with Modest Mouse? Depends what you like, really. They were a really good indie rock (in the 90s meaning of the term - great harsh guitar tone, playing with dynamics) band up until Moon & Antarctica. Really great songs about travelling on endless interstate roads, depression. Then they went Pink Floyd on M&A (long album, prog, existential themes) and then as others mentioned got a lot more radio-friendly since Good News for People Who Love Bad News. Old fans dropped completely at that point but the band got real popular.
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Fartmaster posted:Where do I expand with Thee Oh Sees? Welcome to the wonderful and frightening world of John Dwyer, he's the guy behind the band and co-owner of Castle Face records. Oh Sees were three bands, really. You got OCS which was pretty much Dwyer solo doing mellow folky stuff which lasted for four records. Then there's The Oh Sees which was still mellow but with more reverb and with an actual band behind him, this lasted for two records (The Cool Death of Island Raiders and Sucks Blood). Both are really cool but really different from Thee Oh Sees which is the garage version you know, with pretty much the same ensemble as The Oh Sees but also higher tempos and way more fuzz. I'd say their best was Sucks Blood and The Master's Bedroom Is Worth Spending a Night In, they were unbeatable between 2006 and 2008. The singles and various stuff from that time are all great, too. Check out Dwyer's earlier stuff like The Coachwhips, Pink & Brown or his queer industrial band called Zeigenbock Kopf. The guy's from Providence and he was a part of that noise scene for quite some time.
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Yeah, or gay disco noise. One of the funniest bands I ever heard. Dwyer's a really cool guy who really contributed to the San Francisco's garage scene back in the day. Now he's gotten attention but seems a bit tired these days (he didn't even want to answer any questions when I interviewed OCS). His label's still good, though.
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me your dad posted:Guided by Voices? Most people will say Bee Thousand (and for good reason) but I'd start with Alien Lanes.
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dooinit posted:Neil Young. I listened to some of Le Noise because of the way everyone seems to link him to bands like Sonic Youth and Dinosaur Jr., and I liked what I heard, but I also know that he's all over the place soundwise. What are the key points in his discography? Two best points for me were his first self titled album and Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, probably the best one with Crazy Horse. Incredible dual guitar playing on that one. Then you can check out Zuma and On The Beach.
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Damned Damned Damned is the obvious starting point here as it has probably all their best songs there. New Rose in particular was crazy influential, listen to that drum sound at the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTfyUqVqX-0 The Damned, of all the UK '77 bands, were the closest to NY Dolls and Stooges stylistically which automatically makes them the most interesting. Their later stuff is nothing worthwhile, though, most of it just some goth crap. Also keep in mind that punk is a 7'' genre, good albums were (still are) very rare.
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The two albums they did with Tom Cora are both excellent starting points. State of Shock is one of their best songs and it perfectly encapsulates what the band is all about. Other than that, you can try Too Many Cowboys for their anarchopunk era and Turn for their post-punk era.
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The Ex had a sense of humor whereas Godspeed did not. The crescendo structure in that track is similar though. Both are excellent bands. On topic, a million dollar question: Captain Beefheart. Heard Safe As Milk and parts of Trout Mask, both sound like white man's approach of marrying blues with prog. I like the cabaret stuff like early Roxy M or Gong but CB does nothing to me. Is there any other good starting point?
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Ikari Worrier posted:Beefheart might not be for you, though, which is fine. It absolutely is, just wanted to give his music another chance. I'm on a big The Fall kick lately and MES idolized Beefheart so
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I do, Zappa's on the Fall list, too. Thank you all!
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zh1 posted:By far the best GYBE album is Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven, and generally Do Make Say Think is the superior post-rock outfit The first part is true, Lift has it all. Wouldn't really compare GYBE to DMST tho, the former had a heavy anarcho-apocalyptic vibe, the latter was pretty much laidback instrumental ambient music. The main guy went on to form Broken Social Scene iirc. Terminally Bored fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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hatelull posted:This is really the "help me buy used records" edition .. They were a working mans band like The Stooges, touring really often and hard, focusing mainly on their live shows. Their studio albums are ok (they got more and more prog-rock as they went on) but their single masterpiece is Space Ritual which is kind of a live album. I say 'kinda' because it compiles two live shows but also has some overdubs, some parts were edited, etc. Lemmy Kilminster plays bass on that one, you can hear Motorhead's drive on stuff like Lord of Light. That loving riff, Bardo Pond covered it few years ago. And you get to hear Bob Calvert read his (and Michael Moorcock's) space-poetry from the stage. It's awesome. Space Ritual has really everything Hawkwind had to offer, the band were at their peak and (arguably) never topped that one. It also has been reissued and bootlegged to all hell because serious Hawkwind heads went digging for the original show recordings (can't blame them, the original version of Upside Down slays).
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Megaschmoo posted:Noise music A few good starting points: - Harry Pussy LP (Siltbreeze Records, rereleased last year on Superior Viaduct) HP really defined noise rock even if very few people actually get it. The main problem is that the noise rock genre very rarely contains actual noise. For some reason the term mostly stuck to Touch & Go and Amphetamine Reptile bands which were mostly minimal and sludge rock (Cows being one of the exceptions, they were noisy as hell). Skin Graft, too, but they had Arab on Radar at least who did really interesting things with guitar sounds. T&G and AmRep noise rock bands were really intelligent and funny but still adhered to the standard rock tropes (machismo especially), even if they subverted them. HP just destroyed those tropes - the LP is 21 minutes long and at first you'll think that it contains just random notes and screaming but after few listenings you'll hear the beauty, like the improv on the second part of Fuckology, the almost blues-jam I Don't Care About Sleep Anymore or the ridiculous Kraftwerk cover at the end. Bill Orcutt, the guitarist, now plays solo (mostly acoustic) improv and his albums are fantastic. Adris Hoyos (the drummer/screamer) now plays in Elklink with Graham Lambkin (her husband). - The Dead C Three guys from New Zealand playing what they themselves call "free rock". All of their albums are just compilations of the best parts from their lengthy improv sessions so sometimes you'll get 15 minutes of straight feedback but also the most beautiful stuff imaginable if you give it time. Just listen to "Outside" on The White House album. It's mindblowing. That album and "Secret Earth" are their best starting points. Keep in mind that it's all slow listening stuff. You've got to learn to appreciate it. - Gravitar A Detroit band (Dearborn I think), they played what I would call ecstatic noise. Edifier would be my album of choice for them. They had a fantastic drummer. Lots of improv but also actual songs like the fantastic version of a Skip Spence's "Diana". - The Hospitals and The Hunches Both started out as garage bands but were so loud and abrasive they didn't really fit the genre. Hairdryer Peace and Exit Dreams are both perfect albums (ED is my choice for the best rock album of 00s) - lo-fi as hell but also very rich texturally and loving bonkers. There were some overlap between both bands and both albums were the pinnacle of the lo-fi revival of the 00s. - Yellow Swans They released two albums with really beautiful noise at the very end of their "career": At All Ends and Going Places. Check out these two and work your way backwards through their HUGE catalogue of CDRs, cassettes and other stuff. Perfect band. Pete Swanson solo stuff is mostly noise-techno, you might want to check it out if you like that kind of stuff. - Mouthus Very similar to Yellow Swans in that they were a duo and also had a huge amount of records and left their most beautiful (and dare I say, accessible) material for the end of their career. Check out "Saw A Halo". One of the guys now plays in United Waters which is basically Mouthus-lite. - Air Conditioning You should basically check out all Load Records (RIP) catalogue but AC stand out as one of the fiercest and, what's most important, AN ACTUAL BAND. You'll see lots of solo artists just screaming through some guitar pedals at a local modern art gallery but that's pretty easy. People like AC, Sword Heaven and Sightings played free noise as a collective and really worked on the structures of their, um, songs even if it's hard to hear. AC is really good if you want some dark, heavy noise stuff. - as usual, various compilations like Tiger Tongue Pussy Cactus, Hall of Mirrors, Ambient Not Not Ambient (lots of noise despite the title).
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Hex is one of the worst starting points because that's basically where they went all avantgarde, like they wanted to show they were more than just (post-)punk. It is a GREAT album to come back to after you've familiarized yourself with the band a little. The Fall are so old their career should be talked about in stages. It goes something like this: 1. straight up punk - all the stuff up to and including their first LP after which the whole squad basically quit leaving MES alone. At Witch Trials has the best punk drumming you'll ever hear. 2. garage post-punk - MES invites three 18-19 year old Mancunian punks to play with him, this somehow turns out to be the best squad they ever had in their whole history and they produce AMAZING albums. Grotesque may be the best for starters. Slates EP is often cited as the best 10'' record ever made (and I would agree). 3. avantgarde - Hex, Perverted By Language, Room To Live, keep away from these if you're starting, but these are some of the best stuff they ever did. Heavy, dense. The lyrics on Perverted are just otherworldy, no one came close to that level of writing in rock music (be it punk or any other genre). 4. relative popularity - they were signed by Beggars Banquet and went a bit more radio-friendly, even played to a ballet. This Nation's Saving Grace is a highlight of that era and is the album most loved by indie fans as Pitchfork touts it as their best for some reason. Bend Sinister is where they start going a bit pop. 5. MES alcoholism - still radio-friendly but the most notable thing about it were the on-stage fights and their first attempts at electronic music (Hit The North, it even got a video). This era ends with MES left alone yet again and recording the great (although really difficult) Levitate album almost by himself. 6. modern times - still have flashes of brilliance (The Real New Fall LP is awesome) but MES is pretty much a bumbling heap nowadays. His most recent wife (third if I'm not mistaken) divorced him and left the band half a year ago. tl;dr Check out Grotesque for great early Fall. This Nation's Saving Grace for mid-Fall and The Real New Fall LP for more modern Fall sound. Alternatively, find the Palace of the Swords Reversed compilation, it has all the best early singles and the best track they ever made (Wings).
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Hanley noted that Oranj was the point when he thought the band got big so idk. It was also around that time when they actually started seeing actual money and Brix turned MES on to some melodic stuff. They even covered Victoria.
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:Where's good for Thee Oh Sees/Oh Sees? Wow, that one's tough. The band went through lot of names and lot of sounds. There's the earliest, OCS - kinda bedroom laidback recordings Dwyer did with Patrick Mullins, then The Ohsees with a full band, but still very mellow with occasional noise outburst and Thee Oh Sees - the longest running garage rock form with most of their stuff produced by Chris Woodhouse. I'd say begin with Sucks Blood for the mellow phase and The Master's Bedroom for the garage phase. Floating Coffin is a great starting point, too. Terminally Bored fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Dec 11, 2017 |
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Yeah, Thee Oh Sees is a well known band, they play lots of festivals. Goons don't really venture past aor dreck or vg sountracks. Or Ween. Speaking of obscure bands, I'd love to get a Caroliner primer.
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LargeHadron posted:How about Kurt Vile? I'm not interested in the most accessible album - gimme the good dirty stuff. Constant Hitmaker is your best bet then. It's a sorta best of his earliest (home) recordings, really hazy stuff. More similar to Ariel Pink or Gary War than his current stuff. God Is Saying This To You is the continuation of that sound. His dirtiest is definitely the 12'' EP he cut with The Violators. It's called Hunchback and is still in print iirc.
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Two words: Clyde Stubblefield. The most sampled drummer. Start with James Brown's Cold Sweat. Part 2 of that track has what is possibly the earliest funk drum solo. After that check out the personnel on Parliament and Ohio Players records.
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Joose Caboose posted:Since they just added the catalog to Spotify...Bikini Kill? The Singles gives you their best stuff chronologically. Then move on to other Kathleen Hanna stuff, especially Le Tigre. Then onto other awesome femi-punk bands like The Red Aunts or Sleater Kinney. Then onto awesome modern femi-punk bands like Good Throb, Runt or Special Interest.
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Red Ryder posted:The Fall? Early stuff - Grotesque, any Rough Trade singles collection (Superior Viaduct have one great coming up) Mid years - Bend Sinister, Extricate Later stuff - The Real New Fall LP These are not the best ones necessarily, but are probably the most accessible. Stuff for fans only - Totale's Turns, Levitate, Room to Live
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hexwren posted:How about The Move? Shazam is my favorite. It has the best version of Cherry Blossom Clinic, too. It's really proggy though.
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There isn't, sure. But there are people who are allergic to 15 minute songs involving Tchaikovsky and Bach quotes.
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AverySpecialfriend posted:Where to start with no wave as a genre No New York compilation and work from there.
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internet celebrity posted:Acid Mothers (and all the associated acts) have the most intimidating discography I've ever seen, where the hell does someone start with them? Electric Heavyland is their heaviest and also the best one, I think. They did a lot of krauty stuff that's a bit less noisy.
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The debut self titled for Ramones although like most punk they were a singles band so Anthology is their best album. The debut (UK version) of Clash if you want to hear their pub-rock roots or London Calling/Combat Rock if you want to hear them as pop-rock stars.
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Junpei posted:I re-listened to some pop-punk songs I liked when I was a preteen because I thought they were 'edgy' and 'rebellious' and 'cool'. They're still a little cringy, but they actually hold up a little. But they're mostly singles. So, do blink-182, Sum 41 and Good Charlotte have anything worth listening to on the albums via deep dive? For good pop-punk LPs check out The Bananas, The Ergs, Marked Men, The Muffs, Matt K. Shrugg's solo album. Maybe faster powerpop stuff like Nobunny's Love Visions.
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Nah, being an adult means realizing you listened to a lot of dreck because you were a kid and didn't know any better bands. Especially now since corporations are monetizing nostalgia really hard.
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Man, the 90s were such a terrible time for punk rock in retrospect. Garage punk was where all the quality and creativity went - TJSA, New Bomb Turks, Oblivians, Teengenerate. All the hair dye pop punk and Boston-style crossover hc stuff from that era aged horribly.
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