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Krakkles
May 5, 2003

like and subscribe for more passive-aggressive roadway bullshit adventure in Chigcao

mattfl posted:

You could find one for 2-3k and put another 2-3k in it yourself and have it look like whatever they're going to do to it for half the price.
This is very true and valid.

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Maybe, but I don't have the time or space to take on a project like that myself, I'd rather pay someone else to do it
As is this.

Personally, I generally fall more on the side of buying one with the issues I'm willing to fix, then do it myself for cheap. But if your time is more valuable than $x dollars, then it's perfectly valid to fall on the other side of it, and I've certainly done both.

I'd look hard at the work he's doing and what guarantees he will provide, but beyond that, it's just a matter of whether it's worth it for you. I wouldn't pay $13k for a YJ unless it was mint, and probably not even if it was, but I can certainly the appeal of a halfway decent looking YJ. I'd totally drive that reddish Renegade around if I could pick it up for a few grand. (... and with the 4.0...)

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.


If he's buying them out of state you should pay very very close attention to the frame. Flip shops do all kinds of scary stuff to frames to make them look nice while avoiding fixing them right...

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



For me to really save money on something like that it would have to be a Jeep that needs a lot of work. As in manual labor. I was in a bad car accident this past july, my neck and back are all hosed up, and I have permanent brain damage that has hosed up my memory and focusing ability so taking on a project like that would be a huge (and painful) undertaking for me. Never mind that I don't have the proper space to do it.

I'm still looking for now, and if I can find a nice STOCK 4.0 TJ that doesn't have a shitload of miles and was taken care of for around 13k I'll be all over it.

kastein posted:

If he's buying them out of state you should pay very very close attention to the frame. Flip shops do all kinds of scary stuff to frames to make them look nice while avoiding fixing them right...

Oh trust me, I'll be the one giving the ok on the Jeep they will be using if i go this route. The owner even said they don't start the project without customer approval of the Jeep first. And I have no qualms stopping by unannounced to check on progress and inspect what's going on.

Sir Not Appearing
Apr 26, 2004



kastein posted:

If he's buying them out of state you should pay very very close attention to the frame. Flip shops do all kinds of scary stuff to frames to make them look nice while avoiding fixing them right...

I got really lucky on a TJ that popped up for sale when I was looking. It looked really nice except it was missing flares and he wanted $2950 which set off some red flags. I asked him why it was so cheap and what was the frame like. Luckily, he was honest. He'd just bought it a week or two before and had taken it to the car wash to clean mud off the undercarriage when the wand started blowing chunks of expanding foam out of the frame rails around where the LCAs attach. He said it looked fine and was really convincing when he bought it and was losing a couple grand on it.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.


Yeah if you don't inspect a Wrangler frame with a screwdriver and a magnet these days you are looking to get taken for a ride. If the owner won't let you because you might scratch the frame paint, walk on the deal. Bring a can of good quality spray paint to fix any scratches.

I've heard of people filling gaping holes in the frame rails with mortar and then bondoing over it, sanding it, and painting it. So it looks like it was never rusted. It's sad how people will put more time and work into hiding it than it would take to fix it.

Sir Not Appearing
Apr 26, 2004



Yeah, that one was Great Stuff type foam and body filler carefully shaped and sanded. He said he felt ill once he saw it.

And if they are rusty, they get worse fast. A friend of mine bought an '02 with the Apex package and it needed patched when he bought it. He drove it a little in the fall and let it sit over winter and holy cow... It went from "this will need patched" to "let's find a route to the shop without railroad tracks so it doesn't break in half on the way to get capped".

I wasn't available the weekend he bought it or I would have tried to talk him out of it.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



kastein posted:

I've heard of people filling gaping holes in the frame rails with mortar and then bondoing over it, sanding it, and painting it. So it looks like it was never rusted. It's sad how people will put more time and work into hiding it than it would take to fix it.

Yeah right, buy a cheap welder and learn how to weld.

I haven't run into any elaborate poo poo trying to hide it yet, but so far I've seen two that were painted over. One of them just around the wheel wells where the frame is visible for pictures, then I got underneath it and the rust was everywhere. The other one the guy must have used four or five cans of spray paint, even left one of the spray can caps laying under the Jeep lol.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I mean, if you're willing to spend that much, expand your distance. $13k, even accounting for transport costs, should easily find a good TJ somewhere.

Bonus points if you find one that's in good condition other than the soft top, because that's an easy job to replace.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



Just had an '01 4.0 MT pop up at a dealer not too far away with 84k miles for 11 grand....Hey not bad right?

*checks carfax*

*from Illinois*



In an add with 35 pictures, conveniently none of the undercarriage hmm wonder why

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 18:03 on May 23, 2020

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.


That and 01 falls in the TUPY 0331 year range, so you'd want to check it out carefully

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



Yeah that too, kinda at the point where I think I'd just eliminate those to begin with, and just stay with a 97 to 99 or 03 and later.

[e] Had a stock '06 with 120k miles just pop up, asking 10k....Ok, looks good lemme message the guy.....And he brought it down from Pennsylvania wtf

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 24, 2020

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av


Had a buddy cut and bend some diamond plate to make an LJ trunk



mashed_penguin
Jul 27, 2004



beanieson posted:

Had a buddy cut and bend some diamond plate to make an LJ trunk





Slick. Nicely done.

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av


Yeah, Iíve been meaning to get my wheels powder coated and while Iím there Iím gonna have the shop do this too.

Itís not like super secure or anything, but itís a real pain in the rear end to get into place or remove. Debating drilling it out and bolting it to the wheel wells.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



Anyone here own a early Pentastar Wrangler that has had problems?

A 2012 JK popped up for sale near me for a pretty good price, but after reading about the head problems and casting sand issues on the Wrangler forums I'm not sure if I want to roll the dice or not.

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Braincloud
Sep 28, 2004

I forgot...how BIG...

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Anyone here own a early Pentastar Wrangler that has had problems?

A 2012 JK popped up for sale near me for a pretty good price, but after reading about the head problems and casting sand issues on the Wrangler forums I'm not sure if I want to roll the dice or not.

I had a 2012 Rubi. Had the dealer replace the head under the recall and never had any issues other than that. I would still have it today except I sold it for a down payment for a house. I miss it everyday (2 door, manual)

Btw, I bought it brand new, had it for 6 years, and sold it for $6K less than I bought it.

Edit: oh wait, I had to replace the clock spring after like 4 years

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