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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Jerusalem posted:

Random memory of the show just hit me, there's a scene early in the series where Christopher is typing on a laptop near Tony. Tony glares at the laptop and says,"Close that thing, I don't trust those... whatcha call em? Cookies."

I loved that poor Tony didn't understand the internet at all and basically figured that the laptop was recording their conversations and anybody could "download them", but closing the laptop would shut them off :3:

I think that's in Season 1 or 2. Gigi was on a laptop and Tony says, "Log off, I don't trust that cookie poo poo".

Alan BStard posted:

Right now I'm up to Finn and Meadow's loving ridiculous "but you got out a suitcase!" argument, ugh.

This. This is the only scene I've never re watched.

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Tony and Carm talking about the donation to Meadow's college


Tony: Those Jews are holding her hostage

Carmela: There Italian

Tony: Jews with better food.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

MrBling posted:

Man, the funniest thing about the whole Tony coma storyline is that Paulie of all people managed to get through to Tony and he just wants him to shut the gently caress up.

Look at my arm...like an old lady's oval office!

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
One of my favorite moments is when they find out Livia's dead and Carm's parents shows up while Tony is on the phone with Janice.

Carm's Mother: How's Tony taking it?
Tony: MOTHER loving BITCH!

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

A.J.: Is it true that the Chinese invented spaghetti?

Tony: Now think about it. Why would people who eat with sticks invent something you need a fork to eat?

Some good points, kaworu. I always felt that his suicide attempt was kind of a way of showing that he puts minimal effort into anything he tries. He made the rope too long and then bobbed up and down until someone game to help him instead of him trying to help himself.

Bonzo fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Mar 30, 2012

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I looked at Tony ignoring the debt was because he could and no one could do anything about it since he's the boss. If he refuses to pay Hesh, then he also sets a president to anyone else he owes money to. A "Hey, I didn't pay my father's friend, you think I'm gonna pay you?" type thing.

All mobsters are basically thieves and steal from each other all the time.

- When Brendan and Chris steal the Comley truck, Tony keeps 3 or 4 racks of clothes while ordering them to give it back and then extorts 50k from them so he can "pay" a tax to Jun.

- Pie-o-My wins a race and Ralph pays Tony for the tip. Tony keeps his hand out for an uncomfortable amount of time until Ralph lays out more cash.

- When Pussy comes back, he asks about who made his pickups. Paulie states that, "we did the best we could with the information we had" meaning they were pocketing all of the money

Also Tony's expenses keep going up. Meadow is in school, Carm's building a house, uncertainty within the families (possible mob war), medical bills, paying 5 grand a day for AJ to play Xbox, etc. but he's not willing to change his lifestyle so he gets cash anyway he can.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
There's a bee onna your hat

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

BiggerBoat posted:

"I thought you said I was OK, Spider."
"No, you aint OK Spider."

Anyhow, there's a poo poo ton more people from Goodfellas that have been on this show. I was amazed. Whenever I re-watch the Sporanos or Goodfellas now, i'm always looking.

Nearly every movie or show that has the mob in the script and is filmed in the NYC area uses these actors. Bronx Tale, Made, Jerky Boys, off the top of my head.


MrBling posted:

There is some fun casting in The Sopranos. Maybe David Chase has a thing for casting musicians, I don't know.

Frankie Valli as a mobster? Sure, why not its a small role.

Steven van Zandt in a huge role? Yeah, lets do it, who cares if he has no prior acting experience. Lets cast his wife as well.

Scorsese used old Vegas comedians and mob guys in Casino. It's the only you'll see Don Rickles on screen not insulting someone.

As far as Little Steven, it seems he had the character of Silvio created and somehow Chase found out about it and asked him to try it out.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
He's bald which is why he wears the bandanna and has been since I can remember. I also remember him from MTV in the 80s and his face pretty much looked like that then. He's a pretty interesting guy and his radio show is pretty good. http://undergroundgarage.com/

And since I have a relative that is no longer able to live by herself anymore, the quote "IT'S A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY" has been stuck in my head.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

truth masseuse posted:

There was a lot in Christopher's arc that I did not like. The whole being a writer, going to Hollywood, having a film debut, etc. Was it really all that necessary?

Yes. It show that whatever Chris does he screws up somehow.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

haljordan posted:

Also, I remember thinking in the episode where Tony & Paulie meet with those Armenian(?) guys to set up the power tool operation why Tony would offer him a truck load of pool toys and poo poo. I was like "What the hell kind of money maker is that?" Then I realized, when you're stealing everything to begin with, you can sell it at any kind of discount and its still pure profit.

They touched on this in Season 2 with the Scatino bust out. Richie was talking about the coolers and how easy they were to sell because your average person really had no idea how much they sell for and would be more apt to just buy one off the street on a whim.

This also goes along with the theory that that mob doesn't want to attract any attention. If they stand out on the corner selling gold watches, someone is going to get suspicious. No one thinks twice if someone is selling coolers. This is also why the garbage business was good to them. The only thing people worry about with garbage is getting it to the curb before 7am.

The cops and feds will always look at something larger, sexier if you will, so that they can look good to their bosses.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
It's garbage. Not exactly the type of business just anyone is going to go into because it's very blue collar. It's also very easy to extort someone over because, as you saw in the episode where they dump a week's worth of poo poo onto a restaurant parking lot, no one wants to keep it around.

Plus you can use it for other things. Jr. had a coke ring going with drivers selling along the routes. I'm sure you could use those trucks to also smuggle a number of things.

You can control unions and get bribes from city officials on a number of things. Then there is the legit stuff like fees for dumping different kinds of waste in the name of being "environmentally friendly" and tax breaks.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I think that as long as Tony allows the NY crew to use some of his resources he gets a pass. Other than that the crew could just step in and take over Jersey any time they wanted.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

DarkCrawler posted:

I thought they were more like partners, I don't think Tony was ever shown kicking up to anybody.


He may not have been kicking up but they had rank. This is evident by the way Johnny Sack reacted to the "100lb mole" joke.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
By the end of the series there are quite a bit of loose lips around. I would not doubt that quite a few low end guys were wired or other wise informants and knew the hits where coming.

Plus you had all the anti terrorist poo poo going on so I don't doubt that you had wire taps and such in place since a lot of the lower ranks of the mob will deal in weapons.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I would love if HBO did a Sopranos prequel series. Seeing Uncle Jun, Jonny Boy, Bobby's dad, and others doing mob stuff in the 50s and 60s would be awesome. Or you could even have it based in the 80s and see the start of Tony's rise up the ranks, his year in college, starting a relationship with Carm, running around with Tony B...it's pretty endless with the amount of back story they've already placed in the show.

Bonzo fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Aug 21, 2012

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
MOTHER FUCKIN' ORANGE PEEL BEEF!

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

MrBling posted:

Nancy Marchand as Livia is probably the best in the series. The way she manipulates Junior at the beginning is so evil.

I had a grandmother like that. She just could never be happy and was always doom and gloom. The way she makes those dismissive hand gestures gets me every time.

And I can remember her saying that she never answered the phone after it was dark.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

DarthXaos posted:

I wish the Lord would take me.

Go into the ham, take the carving knife and stab me right HERE! It would hurt me less than what you just said!


I still have that Sopranos cookbook they published in 2001 or so.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I'd go back to even say that Dream On was pretty good for its time. Until then you never had an R rated sit com on TV.


Also don't forget about Six Feet Under. I still say that show was one of the most powerful dramas I've ever seen. You are not human if you are not a crying mess after that last episode.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

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kenny powerzzz posted:

One scene, 30 seconds and no dialog. And so starts my fourth rewatch in as many years.

Keep an eye out for this then. In the first episode of season two, Pussy comes back. They are sitting in the back of the Bing and Sil starts reciting Godfather lines. When he quotes, "Our true enemy has yet to reveal himself" they cut to Pussy laughing for a few seconds. Totally blew my mind when I noticed that.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

kippa posted:

Goddamn, it looks like Johnny Sack has taken up Ginny's eating habits since the show finished, here he is in Killing them Softly:



IMDB says he had a huge mole removed from his rear end.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Your Gay Uncle posted:

Jamal Ginsburgh, the Hasidic Homeboy is so insanely racist but also insanely hilarious.

One of Paulie's best Iines "Hasid'em but I don't believe 'em"

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Tony was head of the Soprano crew. I am not sure how well Jackie's crew was. Tony also seemed to take the bigger risks and also had the garbage business and access to councilmen. Most the other crews just had drug dealers, pimps and bookies.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

escape artist posted:

I thought drug dealing was prohibited?

Well Tony just told Jr. not to have Ritchie sell in on the garbage route. He never said don't do it. I can't remember him telling anyone not to.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Watching The Happy Wanderer right now. It never gets old, still as great as the first time I saw it.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

haljordan posted:

Poor T-1000 :(

No bitch to me

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

kippa posted:

That makes me laugh every time. Also the bit where AJ/Meadow/Carmella are all stood in the hallway and all you hear are terrible fart sound effects, followed by AJ saying "Who's letting off them big ones? :downs:".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nh_8s9Sa64&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Jerusalem posted:

Holy poo poo, Tony spotting the sign about the Lowenbrau being on special. Oh Paulie :swoon:

That and Tony saying he needs to eat something healthy and takes the fish sticks

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Shut up and stir my eggs

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Hugh's birthday is one of the funniest episodes.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
This scene sums it all up pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA9Fs350PE

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I’m Southern and my family is a mix of Dutch, Irish and German. That passive aggressive, guilt thing is pretty much how my entire remaining family communicates. If everyone is gathered in the same room, we all get along wonderfully. Once we split up though that’s when the behind the back talking starts. “Did ya hear about your cousin? His drinking problem is back. I’m sure he’ll blab to some doctor about who unhappy he is.” Stuff like that.

Or more recently, I took a week’s vacation to go back home a visit which I do twice a year. I drive 600 miles one way, spend over $1,000 in travel expenses (gas, hotels, dog boarding, etc.) and buy everyone lunches and dinners while I’m there. When I get back, I have emails from parents going on about how they never get to spend time with me. Meanwhile, no one in my family has even come up to visit me in 5 years.
I’m not Italian at all but this show always spoke with me that way. Livia

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Ooooooooooooo! Wolfgang Fuckface!

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Jacks also played the word "poo".

Oh and "rear end. As in how about giving me some?"

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

tbp posted:

"Jamal Ginsberg the Hasidic homeboy" is still one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life

Hasid'em but I don't belive 'em

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
So Tony's dead, and Sil is a vegetable. That leaves, what, Paulie as the highest ranking guy? Do you think he would have taken over or would New York finally move and absorb all the power?

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

ZekeNY posted:

It's fun to spot the Sopranos actors in the classic Mob films. Just the other day I noticed that Tony Sirico shows up in the credits of Goodfellas, playing "Tony Stacks". Now I'll have to try to find that character the next time I see the film.

Once you see him now you’ll always wonder who you missed it.
His hair doesn’t have any gray in it but listen for the voice and you’ll hear it. When they guys are play fighting in front of the cab stand and Paulie sticks his head out and a guy says, “It’s your fault”. That’s him. He’s also one of the guys that kidnaps the mailman and puts his head in a pizza oven.
I think he’s also shown in the background when Paulie says, “You broke your cherry!” after Henry comes out of court.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

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EvilTobaccoExec posted:

Union guy? You mean the juror at Uncle Junior's trial? That was pretty essential for Bobby to do, probably the biggest display of how his grief was interfering with his work. He would have been in some trouble if he hadn't done that.

There was that but Bobby also met a guy in a bar about who to vote for in the joint fitters union. "Vote for a guy like Dick Hoffman? I'd rather put a bullet in my head here.....and here."

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

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Didn't Hesh die in his sleep?

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