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large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Baronjutter posted:

I live in BC, Victoria to be exact. I've been interested in shooting, or at least just learning how to handle a firearm for a while now. I'm trying to navigate the government site on registration but it's starting to baffle me. I know I'm going to have to tackle it if I get serious, but can anyone tell me the general costs and fuss involved in the process? I'm not sure if I even want to own a gun, just maybe go out to a range and learn the basics on a few weapons. Yes, i tried googling for ranges and such in my area, some are listed but none seem to have websites.

What's the best way for an absolute gun n00b to get started? Where do I get this "safety training" all the forms seem to demand?

Island outfitters can give you a list of people who run the safety course in town, they also sell the texts, although I believe you can download the PDFs from the Canadian Firearms Centre website now. If you aren't familiar with firearms actions/safe handling your best bet is to take the class. It lasts a few hours over a couple of evenings, after which you write an easy multiple choice exam and show that you can use and handle different actions safely with deactivated firearms. I believe it was $150 or so for the class (restricted and non-restricted) when I took it a few years back. As far as shooting goes I take a few of our local goons up to the Malahat range (Vancouver Island Fish and Game Protective Association - haha) for a day out shooting once in a while. I'm sure we'll do it again this spring/summer sometime.

Millow posted:

When my PAL does come though, I definitely want to get a 10/22 as a first gun, where should I get it from? I want to get the 10/22 all weather, which is stainless steel with a synthetic stock. If you guys can't help me with somewhere cheaper (and at least somewhere near Toronto) I'll probably get it from Elwood Epps (http://www.ellwoodepps.com/new_firearms_ruger.asp) for $287 + tax. That seems kind of expensive though.

I believe SIR and (surprisingly) Lever Arms have the best 10/22 prices at the moment. Mail order and/or the EE on CGN are usually the best ways to go, although Epps are good people if you live nearby.


edit: Here are the Canadian firearms safety course manuals in PDF format for anyone interested:


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large hands fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Sep 4, 2008

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Jan 24, 2006


Decks posted:

Where's an ok place to buy an M39 Mosin-Nagant on the West Coast (or does it even matter where I buy it from?)

Don't forget to pick up a Chinese SKS and a crate of Czech 7.62x39 while you're at it. It is required of all new Canadian shooters.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


mikerock posted:

Lever doesn't have any. Try Reliable on Fraser and Kingsway or the EE on CGN.

Yeah, there's a nice looking Mosin carbine in the milsurp EE at the moment.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Gtab posted:

Probably the best post the EE has ever seen.

ductonius posted:

Horribly common gun? Dubious features? Ignorant seller? Way overpriced? It's the Equipment Exchange on Canadian Gun Nuts!

Don't forget ridiculously specific and unusual trade offer and "photos on request" driving away potential buyers. Pretty much the perfect EE fakepost and I can just imagine some of the outraged private messages the guy is getting right now.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Anyone know where I can order a 10/22 bull barrel from? I checked wholesale sports and they don't have any plain blued ones. Apparently rimfire sports and the other usual US dealers have been getting letters from the ATF and won't ship barrels up here anymore.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


DrakeriderCa posted:

You're looking for a Green Mountain one? I haven't seen them anywhere but WSS. Their website still lists them, hell they even have them on sale. Did you try buying one online?

Really? All I can find on WSS are Butler Creek barrels and even then they don't have any non-fluted, blued ones that aren't .22MAG. Plus I was hoping for something that doesn't cost almost as much as the rifle itself - but maybe that's unrealistic. If I can't find one new online I guess I'll put a WTB post up in the CGN equipment exchange.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


DrakeriderCa posted:

I've also got a guy that could get you something. He's my go-to guy for parts. Do you want his email address? He doesn't really maintain a big online presence.

Sure, if you think he can get hold of a barrel for me and doesn't mind getting emails from random internet strangers that would be great

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Anybody hear any feedback on those Turkish shotguns that Marstar is selling? I handled one at the local gun shop today and it seemed very solid. The overfolder stock was really sturdy and made of solid metal.

DrakeriderCa posted:

Oh, and one of the shops down there had a few dozen crates of 7.62x39 for $210. It's like the Lost World.

I just paid $270 for a crate here in Victoria, but we're kind of limited in our local options and who knows when canadaammo will get more. My local gun store makes way too much money from my impulse ammo purchases.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Cyrano4747 posted:

So every time something cool gets imported to canada you guys restrict it, huh?

This hasn't happened so much recently (i.e. Tavor, P90), but we're wary and cynical for good reason - we're one election away from losing it all.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


slidebite posted:

on the top of the list for a Tavor, but I passed because I firmly believe the Liberal idiots will ban more scary looking Semis and all pistols the first year when they get back into office.

This seems like a great reason to buy one, unless you think they'll go down the confiscation path rather than grandfathering. I'd like to hope not as they didn't before with prohibs and there isn't the sort of public moral outrage here that they had in the UK/Australia after Dunblane/Port Arthur. God, even talking about it is depressing.

Anyway, I want a Tavor box thread!

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Marstar is taking orders for M14s for June delivery. Still $399 I've been putting it off but I think I'm going to have to get one this time around.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


HPL posted:

The Norinco M14 is truly one of the great deals of our time. Definitely get one if you can scrape together the cash.

It's not really the money for the rifle that's held me back as much as throwing a loonie downrange every time I pull the trigger. Meh, it's time I got into reloading anyway.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


beaver_cheese posted:

I ordered a Norinco M14 from Marstar today. The guy I spoke with said they were very very close to being sold out and that it's good that I ordered when I did. If anyone else is on the fence about ordering one I'd say go for it now while you still can.

Haha, you got me. Mine should be shipped sometime next week.

The guy I ordered from (Keith) didn't mention how many were left.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Chunderbucket posted:

Rifle transport question: Can I transport them on foot if it's in a locked case?

Guitar cases are your friend if you want to avoid hassles in urban areas. Plus they're usually cheap at pawn shops and secondhand music stores.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Hrolf Pyjama posted:

Sure, I'd like to hear what you guys think.

Post a thread in D&D, then. Better yet, go to ADTRW and post a thread about how much you hate anime and don't bother to rereg afterwards. I'm sure they will appreciate your frank expression of your honest opinion.

large hands fucked around with this message at 02:22 on May 27, 2008

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Caedus posted:

gently caress yes. I'm doing a trip out west to sell my car and get a feel for schools and living arrangements, and once I've got that worked out, I'm making the move permanently. gently caress this little town and gently caress Ontario, I'm out of here before firearm owners are chained and lead though the streets to be spat on.

Congratulations, but drive right through Van and straight onto the ferry at Tsawwassen. Life is better on the Island, mon

e: and you can sell your car here even if it spews toxic death from the tailpipe every time you start it up.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Caedus posted:

Cruster!: Thanks. Which island are you referring to?

Vancouver Island. We need more TFR goons here, Vancouver proper has more than its fair share already.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Gtab posted:

Or perhaps you need to learn that VI is the worst and the mainland is awesome.

That's not what your ex-girlfriend says.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Allright, my credit card shows a charge for $450 today! I guess that means my M14 should be here soon. I was starting to think I'd been waitlisted for the next shipment.

Gtab posted:

This isn't the thread for it, but socialism is abysmal.

You can forward your compo cheques to me if you don't want them

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


mikerock posted:

Does anyone know of a source for wood VZ-58 stocks in Canada?

They come up regularly on the EE in CGN.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Well I am now the proud owner of a very greasy M14.

Time to bust out the simple green, I guess.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


DocCynical posted:

Norinco? I hope to take mine out Friday. Then I will probably have to get some simple green or something since the stock and some of the metal bits seem greasy still. That stuff really gets in there.

Yeah, it just arrived from Marstar today. Hopefully I'll take it to the range this weekend and get some pictures. I would definitely disassemble it and give it a good clean before shooting if I were you. Mine was full of grease.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


beaver_cheese posted:

When you use simple green do you use it on the stock as well as the metal? I've only done a small amount of cosmo removal and I just boiled it off. I have a feeling this thing's going to be covered in the stuff.

I used it on the stock too but it will dry it out some so have some BLO or tung oil ready. If I had a big enough pot for an M14 receiver I probably would have boiled it.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Perhaps not the best place to ask but... should it be really hard to work the bolt on my M14? It slides back smoothly for a couple of inches until it (presumably) reaches the hammer and then requires herculean effort to get it back the rest of the way. Once the hammer is cocked it slides back and forth smoothly. I lubed the contact surfaces between the bolt and hammer but to no avail. I can cock it with one arm but I have to brace the rifle and pull pretty much as hard as I can.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Flanker posted:

For a brand new rifle this is normal. Go shoot it lots.

That's what I figured, thanks for putting my mind at ease.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


beaver_cheese posted:

I'm still on the fence, but I'm leaning towards 10/22.

The silent majority support this wise decision. 10/22s are great fun and anyone who doesn't giggle like a schoolgirl while magdumping 25 rounds from one into a bunch of shaken up pop cans is a bitter husk of a man who has lost his zest for life. They're the best plinking rifle and everyone needs one of those.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


I bought an old fibreglass stock for my new M14:



I'm having issues mounting the buttplate to the stock so I posted a question here. I figured I'd link it here in the hope that one of you guys could help.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


HAPPY CANADA DAY! Time to get smashed on Wisers Deluxe and fire our various Norinco firearms into the air/effigies of Wendy Cukier.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


My new favourite range activity is pop cans at 50 yards with a single six. What a fun little revolver.

Gtab posted:

The real joke there is the idea that there is a GWOT.


Yeah I went there

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


What a nightmare. Could you have legally refused to hand over your firearms or were you basically screwed because somebody had reported a "crime"? I hope you don't get discouraged and keep going back to that spot while pursuing any official avenues of complaint available to you.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Cyrano4747 posted:

One of them had a CGN shirt, the one with that beaver with the rifle tossing the peace sign (or V for Victory sign if you're from 1940s England).

A Dlask AR with that abortion laser-etched onto the magwell has been up for sale on the EE there for an eternity now. Ugh.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Pantless Geek posted:

Sorry to go off topic on you guys, but in the OP there are links to pdf's of the manual to study when you want to challange the CFSC(Or whatever) exam.

Links don't work, neither will google. Anyone know where I can get the manual?

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large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Well I just impulse bought the last 10.5" LAR-15 that Questar had in stock

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


slidebite posted:

What did it cost you?

$1500

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


DrakeriderCa posted:

Ah hell, that's not that bad. That's for the complete rifle, right. I paid that for my AR.

Yeah, well the complete "pistol" technically, although I don't know if that's what it will be registered as. I threw in a few bucks for a 6 position stock and an extra 10 round mag. I wanted either an RRA or a Stag but there were no Stag carbines available and Arms East's 16" models start around $1400. Considering the problems with importing carbines and the crazy wait times from some maufacturers I didn't really mind paying a little extra to get one soon.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


1 day restricted transfer turnaround and the LAR is in the mail. Thank you BC CFO!

e: I wonder what the CFO actually checks for a restricted transfer.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


HPL posted:

There are a grand total of two or three models of bullpup firearms legal in Canada, none of which have been used in public shootings anywhere in the country, if not the world.


I figured that "charger behind the trigger" thing was directed towards ARs.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


HPL posted:

I hope not because that would be even dumber than if they were referring to the magazine. I can work a bolt action handle faster than an AR. I think they meant "charger" in the old fart British meaning of the word.

I guess that makes more sense since it refers to the CX4's design, but that would mean banning almost all semi-auto pistols, too. Now my brain hurts.

large hands
Jan 24, 2006


That quote that Dion repeated of Mike Ackermann's was great. I honestly don't see what there was to disagree with and I guess the crowd didn't either; I only heard a few half-hearted boos in response to it. I can't imagine what sort of political windfall he expects to gather by railing against self-defense. All I know is that I hate being scapegoated and I hope Dion crashes and burns in the debates and takes the grits down with him.

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large hands
Jan 24, 2006


Happy new gun/first AR day to me.

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