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Hedningen posted:So . . . what are some recommended stereo pedals? Right now, I've been looking into treble boosters and trem for a psychobilly group I've been playing with, but I may have to be dumb and get multiple stereo pedals to run an unholy mix of amps and effects. I think the best starting point for any stereo rig is a chorus. I've used all the Boss ones, some nicer high end one, and some super dirt cheap ones. All of them sound good for the most part. Set the depth super high, and the rate as slow as it goes. It's super subtle as far as the chorus sound goes, but it will make your rig sound really wide. Also delay, stereo loving delay. Also put the cabinets as far apart as physically possible, in 3 foot increments, thats a rough guide to keeping poo poo in phase. One on either side of the drummer works very well. A lot of times the effect level on a chorus pedal will help you change the phase. A stereo chorus works by delaying one of the amps, instead 2 signals being split, delayed a little bit, and summed back together coming out of one amp. Here's a video of one of my stereo rigs. This was used after our guitarist took a leave of absence, and I switched from bass to guitar. The band was just 2 guitars and drums, so we beefed up the low end by using 2 guitars stacks, and 2 bass stacks. Looking back this isn't the finished version, but it's close. Tuner (always first so you can mute everything) then an AB box to get the samples in, and then I could switch back and forth and pump them through the whole rig, and use the effects on them as I'm doing in this video. You could also use an AB so that you could select which amp you want to use, but in this case I was always using both of them. Then into the chorus, 2 outputs into the stereo delay, then the "A" side went to that keely boost/overdrive, and then on to the Orange amp and 6x12s. The "B" side went into bass big muff, into the battering ram, into the Traynor and the 4x10 2x15. I ended up using an Orange OB1-500 because I sold that Traynor for tour money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0UdZxx08Is
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Pokey Araya posted:I think the best starting point for any stereo rig is a chorus. I've used all the Boss ones, some nicer high end one, and some super dirt cheap ones. All of them sound good for the most part. Set the depth super high, and the rate as slow as it goes. It's super subtle as far as the chorus sound goes, but it will make your rig sound really wide. Also delay, stereo loving delay. Nice you did the soundtrack to Hellraiser?
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Apr 7, 2017 18:17
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Nice you did the soundtrack to Hellraiser? That was just some Garageband synths, unintended resemblance. Edit: making samples is my poo poo, I always run them through my bass amp, and if you get work on them enough you can shake the drat building, especially if there's a DI or Mic on my cab. Pokey Araya fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Apr 8, 2017 |
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Apr 7, 2017 18:26
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Ehx pulsar is the best stereo pedal it can really make you seasick.
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Apr 9, 2017 09:51
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I've also had great success plugging in stereo outputs from a Boss chorus into the two inputs on a Fender Hot Rod amp. While not being true stereo, it is instant Andy Summers tone.
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Apr 9, 2017 16:16
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There's a DD-500 for $200 locally. Might be able to get it lower. Thoughts? I've never owned a digital delay and for some reason I'm interested in trying one. While looking it up I realized it's true bypass too so that's always neat and rare with Boss. Only complaint is that it looks a little too complex for my taste for simplicity.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:15
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I have no issues with my digitech digital delay but let's also remember that it was free and I really only like small amounts to add a hint of depth so YMMV as heck on that one.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:19
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Kilometers Davis posted:There's a DD-500 for $200 locally. Might be able to get it lower. Thoughts? I've never owned a digital delay and for some reason I'm interested in trying one. While looking it up I realized it's true bypass too so that's always neat and rare with Boss. Only complaint is that it looks a little too complex for my taste for simplicity. I played around with a dd500 for a while but I ended up selling it for exactly that reason.
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Apr 12, 2017 02:33
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Yeah I'll probably just pass. It's certainly a nice piece of gear but I value a combo of tone+simplicity above all else.
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Apr 12, 2017 02:59
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I've never found Boss' buffer intrusive, and you can get a DD-3 for ~$65 used... about the same price as a used DD-6, for that matter.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:18
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After The War posted:I've never found Boss' buffer intrusive, and you can get a DD-3 for ~$65 used... about the same price as a used DD-6, for that matter. I absolutely can't get along with Boss buffers at all  Until I move either my TC T2 or Supernatural I think I'll wait on another delay. Too much delay and reverb has me clogged up but I'd definitely like to try something out that could challenge my Carbon Copy.
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Apr 12, 2017 04:56
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DD500 is sexy as hell. Leave it on the vintage digital mode and embrace the modulation.
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Apr 12, 2017 10:05
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the DD20 giga is a super affordable used stereo complex delay. Sounds great too.
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Apr 12, 2017 12:19
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So I got a Trio+ today and it was super frustrating at first but I think I've finally nailed it: - Using it with an FX Loop is a pain, it has to go in like a four-cable X-pattern noise suppressor, but it works (but you have to be super careful with the volumes when going straight into the FX return because it'll blow your eardrums out) - The looper only works when you're at unmodified tempo - I glanced the tempo dial with my hand and then the whole of the looper function dissapeared without me realising - The first loop auto keys-in and keys-out, which is fantastic. - I'm super-bad at writing chord progressions It sounds pretty great - one run through to teach, one as the first loop and then it's SOLO CITY BABY. Honestly reading the manual really is required because there's approximately seven thousand things every single button can do.
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Apr 24, 2017 21:17
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How well does the EHX Crash Pad work as a filter pedal?
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Apr 26, 2017 06:08
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So Math posted:How well does the EHX Crash Pad work as a filter pedal? I don't think it'd work very well at all, as it doesn't have an input jack IIRC
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Apr 26, 2017 13:57
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Why are there so few delays with precise bpm settings?
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Apr 26, 2017 22:19
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Presumably because you need an lcd to display it. The boss deluxe ones do.
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Apr 26, 2017 22:35
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massive spider posted:Presumably because you need an lcd to display it. The boss deluxe ones do. True but LCD screens are dirt cheap depending on the quality. It's a shame because I love my carbon copy tone but I need a bpm input. Tap is close but not as useful or precise.
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Apr 26, 2017 22:41
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Could be because tap is more fluid in a band situation? Don't get me wrong, I'd love a more precise pedal (and always use tempo sync on Amplitube etc), whereas my bassist prefers a set and forget for his main band where he plays guitar and takes the piss out of my need for tap. Out of interest are there many pedals put there where tap will subdivide into triplets?
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Apr 26, 2017 23:02
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NonzeroCircle posted:Out of interest are there many pedals put there where tap will subdivide into triplets? the boss dd-5 and dd-7
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Apr 27, 2017 00:02
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Kilometers Davis posted:True but LCD screens are dirt cheap depending on the quality. A LOT of people are weirdos about pedal footprint so manufacturers try to make them as small as possible.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:30
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NonzeroCircle posted:Could be because tap is more fluid in a band situation? Don't get me wrong, I'd love a more precise pedal (and always use tempo sync on Amplitube etc), whereas my bassist prefers a set and forget for his main band where he plays guitar and takes the piss out of my need for tap. Avalanche Run does too
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Apr 27, 2017 00:32
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NonzeroCircle posted:Could be because tap is more fluid in a band situation? Don't get me wrong, I'd love a more precise pedal (and always use tempo sync on Amplitube etc), whereas my bassist prefers a set and forget for his main band where he plays guitar and takes the piss out of my need for tap. DD-20 does that, tap and BPM settings. I feel like I pimp that pedal a lot, but features for price it's really great, and sounds great too. I got mine for 90 bucks used.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:40
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:A LOT of people are weirdos about pedal footprint so manufacturers try to make them as small as possible.  Don't let my singer hear that or he'll think I really am choosing pedals to drive him off the stage!
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Apr 27, 2017 00:54
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hanales posted:DD-20 does that, tap and BPM settings. The DD-20 is great poo poo.
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Apr 27, 2017 01:03
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Novum posted:Avalanche Run does too I love the AR and I love Earthquaker/Jamie Stillman. edit: Although, I'd like to think that he hated working for the Black Keys as much as everyone else hates hearing them and decided soldering full time was more desirable. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Apr 27, 2017 01:22
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Gorgar posted:The DD-20 is great poo poo. Hows it do with line level stuff?
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Apr 30, 2017 23:52
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It's possible to switch it to line level yeah.
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Needed a silent recording option for music that is usually recorded at fatal sound levels and found one: quote:The MEATSMOKE dual channel preamp is voiced for bass guitar or huge guitar sounds, and features the MEATSMOKE's unique overdrive boost. http://verellenamplifiers.bigcartel.com/product/meatsmoke-pre-amplifier This is replacing an Orange Micro Terror I currently use (which is very good, but I want something different). See you guys in a month or two for a trip report.
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May 1, 2017 02:43
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You'll enjoy that. I was using a custom job that was just a rack mount version of that preamp. It owns hard.
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May 1, 2017 02:44
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JamesKPolk posted:Hows it do with line level stuff? Used it (in stereo!) in the effects loop of a JC-120. No issues.
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Novum posted:You'll enjoy that. I was using a custom job that was just a rack mount version of that preamp. It owns hard. Got any clips? 
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May 1, 2017 10:58
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Sadly no. I was just using it for a few live sets on bass. It's real loving mighty though and can get some growly and clear tone with like no effort at all.
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Help me goons--I'm functionally retarded when it comes to pedal set ups, so I'm looking for some help. I'm wanting specific effects switched on for specific channels, i.e. chorus + comp on cleans, delay and overdrive on dirty, etc. After doing some reading, it appears I need something like the Voodoo Labs PX8 which is a looper, correct? That being said.. I'd prefer something cheaper. I've seen Loop Master makes some really nice stuff that's in my price range, but it appears they're missing the keyword to for what I want--they aren't programmable. Or am I just way off base here? Would appreciate any and all recommendations/education.
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Quicksand_Jesus posted:Help me goons--I'm functionally retarded when it comes to pedal set ups, so I'm looking for some help. Here's the important question... are you getting your distortion from the amp or from pedals? If it's God's way (the latter), Loop Master definitely makes the thing for you, and I know because I own it.  So you would just do one side (the red obviously) for your distortion+those effects and the other to your clean effects. Guitar goes to "in", "out" goes to amp, you done. If you are getting your distortion out of the amp, it gets a little more complicated... what are you running? The thread can probably figure something out.
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Quicksand_Jesus posted:Help me goons--I'm functionally retarded when it comes to pedal set ups, so I'm looking for some help. Yeah like ATW said if you just want one set of effects on each channel, a cheap switcher will do you fine. If you want to alter those chains regularly you'll have to go for something more expensive and programmable.
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After The War posted:Here's the important question... are you getting your distortion from the amp or from pedals? If it's God's way (the latter), Loop Master definitely makes the thing for you, and I know because I own it. I hate to break it to you, but I'm getting my distortion out of the head and the effects are just for "color." Ideally, i want to have 4-5 different "loops"; a clean, a dirty rhythm, a lead, and possibly a slightly crunch tone (think clean with some tubescreamer on top) for bluesier poo poo. I've seen a couple videos on the PX8 where it shows the programming side of it, but I'm kind of wanting to know if I'm going the right direction with something like that (as I'm understanding it's function anyway), and IF SO, if there's a more cost-conscious option than that. The loop master stuff looks reeaaally great, but I didn't see any options they had for programmable, which I guess is what I'm ultimately looking for?
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Is each loop going to be completely self-contained, or are you trying to get arrangements like "Program 1 is going to have loops, 1, 3, and 5", "Program 2 has 1 and 3", etc? If you want something like that, yeah, the PX is probably your best best. Loop Master does a gigantic version of what I have with individually controllable loops, but not grouping like that. Although hitting two buttons instead of one isn't that much more of a chore, and you can certainly stack them so stuff you may want to be running into the later effects is in the earlier loops.
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Yeah, just for fun I'd say get your overdrive with a pedal and see if that simplifies your problem
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