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Mein Kampf Enthusiast
Jul 30, 2003

happy birthday mega man


Have you read the book?

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Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

No. Should I?

e: Actually I'm not sure you're the person I should be taking lit recommendations from

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003



Soiled Meat

Wafflecopper posted:

No. Should I?

e: Actually I'm not sure you're the person I should be taking lit recommendations from

I havenít seen the show but the book is phenomenal - it does a tremendous job with world building and characterization. Atwood described it as being less as a feminist dystopia and more about "a study of power, and how it operates and how it deforms or shapes the people who are living within [totalitarian] regimes.Ē

So if that wets your whistle go for it! The book is only 300 pages or so.

Thwomp
Apr 9, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

I mean, there was a lot of talk regarding The Handmaid's Tale last year when it premiered. it's fantastic but goddamn depressing.

I definitely recommend it if you have the stomach for it but I wouldn't recommend binging it. Go play with a puppy for a day after an episode.

Mein Kampf Enthusiast
Jul 30, 2003

happy birthday mega man


Wafflecopper posted:

No. Should I?

e: Actually I'm not sure you're the person I should be taking lit recommendations from

It's a pretty important book and a really good one to boot, and my name was randomly changed by an admin.

Norse Code
Mar 9, 2007

DON'T AWOO - $350 PENALTY



I just listened to the audiobook they did special after the show and Claire Danes reads it, and there are cool extras at the end, it was pretty good!

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004


I felt Handmaid's Tale was awkward and unbelievable in some aspects, really good in some aspects, and didn't go far enough in some aspects.

The idea of uber-patriarchal society seems to be borne of a sort of hidden fear of men thats probably a female thing, and really seems to resonate with the female audience, but as a dude I just can't relate. I don't know anyone, who knows anyone, who would wish for that type of society. It just doesn't make that much sense, and runs counter to what most men would genuinely want. Granted the infertility epidemic would be a huge trigger that might plausibly change attitudes. At the same time, in actual wartime, lawless situations many real world women have it much worse than in that particular dystopia, so in some sense the show doesn't go far enough.

The "training" or "breaking" the handmaidens was eeriely well done and of course Aunt Doyd is fantastic as Aunt Lydia. At the same time, they slightly brushed with, but kind of dropped the ball with regards to spies and snitching within the ranks of the handmaidens. That's a huge part of totalitarianism: you never know who could be a spy or a snitch or persuaded to talk, which really complicates resistance. Wished they had developed that aspect more.

As a TV series I thought it was pretty slow paced, perhaps too slow. YMMV.

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

"Why is it blue?"
"It's always blue."


pssst our current society is already an uber-patriarchal society

Mein Kampf Enthusiast
Jul 30, 2003

happy birthday mega man


pigdog posted:

The idea of uber-patriarchal society seems to be borne of a sort of hidden fear of men thats probably a female thing, and really seems to resonate with the female audience, but as a dude I just can't relate.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010
Bench press was, is and will never be a great chest builder.

Escobarbarian posted:

pssst our current society is already an uber-patriarchal society

Are you asking for a new term for "uber-er" here? Or is your argument that Handmaid's Tale presents a society equivalent to our own?

sweetmercifulcrap
Jan 28, 2012


Solice Kirsk posted:

Binged through Big Mouth since I got sick this weekend. It would have been pretty good if the monsters weren't in it at all.

A while back I watched the first episode and hated it. It is particularly jarring, mean-spirited and off-putting. I decided to give it another shot and now I think it's decent after the first episode, but you're absolutely right, it would be much improved without them.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004



They're terrible. They just suck the humor out of any scene they're in. Nothing was added and everything was lost to include them. Semi-pornographic animated Wonder Years would have been better if they just had internal monologues instead of Will and Maya attempting and failing to be obnoxiously funny 100% of the time.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

why donald duck never wears pants but he puts a towel on his waist after the shower?

- Jerry Seinfeld

The biggest WTF moment of Big Mouth happened after I finished the series and was reading a bit about it's production.

Oswald from the Drew Carrey Show isn't the Monster. Y'know, the "2 chicks at the same time." guy from Office Space? Wasn't him.



It's just Kroll doing the voice.

Escobarbarian posted:

hahaha thatís actually Nick Kroll doing the monster as well. it does sound a lot like Arnett though

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

"Why is it blue?"
"It's always blue."


Solice Kirsk posted:

They're terrible. They just suck the humor out of any scene they're in. Nothing was added and everything was lost to include them. Semi-pornographic animated Wonder Years would have been better if they just had internal monologues instead of Will and Maya attempting and failing to be obnoxiously funny 100% of the time.

hahaha thatís actually Nick Kroll doing the monster as well. it does sound a lot like Arnett though

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

"Why is it blue?"
"It's always blue."


lol Iím pretty sure Arnett and Diedrich Bader have both voiced Batman too. I guess itís just the ďfunny BatmanĒ voice.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004



No way.

I also wonder if Nick Kroll is actually good at basketball or if he just put that in there to live vicariously through his fictional childhood self.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Escobarbarian posted:

lol Iím pretty sure Arnett and Diedrich Bader have both voiced Batman too. I guess itís just the ďfunny BatmanĒ voice.

Bader was the voice in Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004



Also it may be the only time Jason Mantzoukas has had a character in anything that I didn't get sick of after like 4 episodes.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007
It's Gutfest '89

Mantzoukas is the only guy who can credibly give pathos to a character who marries his gently caress-pillow.

ChickenBuckets
Sep 18, 2017


LooseChanj posted:

Star Trek TOS, now working my way through the disco-tastic animated series. I don't care if it's not cannon.

Watching TNG, and then going to hit up TOS, but I have a feeling I am going to be disappointed.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

pigdog posted:

I felt Handmaid's Tale was awkward and unbelievable in some aspects, really good in some aspects, and didn't go far enough in some aspects.

The idea of uber-patriarchal society seems to be borne of a sort of hidden fear of men thats probably a female thing, and really seems to resonate with the female audience, but as a dude I just can't relate. I don't know anyone, who knows anyone, who would wish for that type of society. It just doesn't make that much sense, and runs counter to what most men would genuinely want. Granted the infertility epidemic would be a huge trigger that might plausibly change attitudes. At the same time, in actual wartime, lawless situations many real world women have it much worse than in that particular dystopia, so in some sense the show doesn't go far enough.

The "training" or "breaking" the handmaidens was eeriely well done and of course Aunt Doyd is fantastic as Aunt Lydia. At the same time, they slightly brushed with, but kind of dropped the ball with regards to spies and snitching within the ranks of the handmaidens. That's a huge part of totalitarianism: you never know who could be a spy or a snitch or persuaded to talk, which really complicates resistance. Wished they had developed that aspect more.

As a TV series I thought it was pretty slow paced, perhaps too slow. YMMV.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012


Is it weird that the only reason I want to watch Revenents is to see how they work in that awesome Mogwai soundtrack? (That album is loving incredible)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

"Why is it blue?"
"It's always blue."


You should watch it. The soundtrack works with the show very, very well.

nerdman42
Dec 23, 2014



Starting Designated Survivor, about four or so episodes in. I keep hearing it takes a really conspiracy thriller tone later on, but I am digging these West Wing vibes from this early stuff and having a lot of fun with it so far. Is that stuff still present as it keeps going or does at least this conspiracy stuff get better?

pahuyuth
Nov 10, 2002

I can destroy you


Hot drat you guys need to kick my rear end and call me motherfucker for not watching The Expanse sooner than the last few days. I'm not quite through S1 one but this is extremely my poo poo as they say. I watched Ep1 when it aired but it didn't grab me; I saw the praise it got in the forum but I just never gave it another shot. Been sick the past few days so I tried again and once I got to Ep4 I was hooked.

My wife and a few of my kids love it as well and Wifey even said she'd leave me for Shoreh Aghdashloo's voice alone and I can't say I'd blame her. And those costumes. Wow.

How is S2 compared to S1? I don't want spoilers but does it hold up?

Also tried out a couple of Dark Matter episodes and it is fun. It has Roger Cross so yeah gonna watch this too!

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Hexel
Nov 18, 2011



If you dont get too invested in characters vs. a grand galactic conspiracy S2 holds up.

I watched both seasons and cant wait for 3. Dark Matter started out strong for me then kinda petered out but every series does except loving Deadwood.

NeuroticLich
Oct 30, 2012



Grimey Drawer

I just finished binging through The Expanse as well. It took me a couple of false starts of watching the first few episodes, liking it, but then not finishing and starting over months down the line. Once I kept with it and they got to Ceres though, poo poo kicked off and didnít let up. Iím excited to see where season 3 goes, and even considering picking up the books and reading through those.

Since Iím already on a sci-fi kick, I think Iím gonna finally sit down and watch 12 Monkeys next, since Iíve heard itís really good.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.

Hot Dog Day #82 posted:

I havenít seen the show but the book is phenomenal - it does a tremendous job with world building and characterization. Atwood described it as being less as a feminist dystopia and more about "a study of power, and how it operates and how it deforms or shapes the people who are living within [totalitarian] regimes.Ē

So if that wets your whistle go for it! The book is only 300 pages or so.

The series is fantastic, in many ways not despite it diverging from the source text but because it does. Atwood had a lot of input and will be involved with the second season as well. It's definitely worth watching.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

"Why is it blue?"
"It's always blue."


The episode focusing on the husband was a pretty big misstep though

Thwomp
Apr 9, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

I wouldnít characterize it as a misstep but it certainly wasnít as tight or carried on the same kind of horror the main storylines did.

I get why itís there but it wasnít terrible. Just not up to the rest of the show.

savesthedayrocks
Mar 18, 2004


nerdman42 posted:

Starting Designated Survivor, about four or so episodes in. I keep hearing it takes a really conspiracy thriller tone later on, but I am digging these West Wing vibes from this early stuff and having a lot of fun with it so far. Is that stuff still present as it keeps going or does at least this conspiracy stuff get better?

Yeah, all of season 1 and everything Iíve seen in 2 keeps the same story line.

It also carries a ďcrisis of the weekĒ story line, so if that bugs you it can be grading.

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Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Eh.


Recently caught up on The Expanse season 2 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Such a great series.

Also started watching The Orville, and as a fan of old-school Star Trek, it's doing a nice job of scratching the itch for sci-fi that isn't always grim or dystopian. It's basically sci-fi comfort food.

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