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GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

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Spaghett
May 2, 2007

Spooked ya...

Best effort post in this thread.

Close; goldmine.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


so is that a star citizen joke or are you just terrible at bullshitting

Croberts68
May 19, 2015

Erryday I'm Hustlin'

Whats your RSI handle? I can make this your ship's nose art for $5

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

Agean90 posted:

so is that a star citizen joke or are you just terrible at bullshitting

:thejoke:

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

bathroomrage posted:

The grief is people automating a game they should just quit if they're not enjoying anymore.

But then they wouldn't be able to brag about being elite raiders and PvPers.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Croberts68 posted:

I have got all of you beat and it's not even by a little bit.


Lets start at the beginning, I'm a moderately successful guy, I've been lucky to work with some really high quality people who have made me look like an absolute rockstar. I actually even got some decent B-List actors to work for me on a few projects and even got a reasonably hot, albeit failed commercial actress to marry me. I was a movie producer for a minute and even though I lost more money than I made, the "hollywood" contacts I made put me in good enough standing to be able to piggyback smaller amount of funding on to larger projects and turn a pretty solid net.

Problem is my wife really started to just grate on me about her getting work, and the loving Turtle of my RL Entourage kept telling people we were gonna make a big gently caress off videogame. So I'm kinda stuck in a weird spot where I just wanna start funding high budget porno and maybe trade in the wife for a different kind of actress before the money starts to come in and she's entitled to a lot more. Seriously, I've never seen a girl with such a long neck not be able to make it down to the balls, but whatever that's not part of this story. So fuckin Turtle gets me stuck telling potential investors about a videogame that I am literally just making up as I talk to them while throwing out some buzzwords I read in Wired, but the crazy part is they start to eat this poo poo up. Talking about the "upward profit paradigm" in gaming starts to get these loving app developers turned investors as hard as a rock so I see a chance to do something.

So I get Turtle to call some friends and we set up on this website where you make empty promises to nerds and they throw cash at you. So I get a youtube made by my buddy Gil who has a business making music videos for teenage girls who think they're gonna be the next Kesha/Iggy and he green screens my poo poo up so I look like pudgy Scottish Spaceman Spiff. I'm thinking we might make like 2 mil and I can finance a 300K game, pocket the rest and start shooting facial scat porn by Q2 2013. But something far crazier happens, loving nerds start making GBS threads their entire lifesavings on my fiscal chest like some kind of Gordon Gecko inspired Cleveland Steamer. By the end of it I'm sitting on like 12 mil. Nerds, dude. Fuckin nerds.


So Now I'm thinking "How far can I ride this gravytrain before I actually have to do anything?" so I start up my own website, hired some kid out of Irvine of Craigslist to do it (because gently caress Angie's List, I ain't paying poo poo to get some pimple faced kid to poo poo out a paypal button and spaceship drawings) and sure enough I've got 30 million USD and loving Turtle has promoted himself to my assistant. Which would be fine but he keeps insisting on setting up his office near mine but that poo poo's on the East side of the building, so every morning it smells like someone is cooking maple bacon when the sunlight hits his chair. But then the dreams started. I kept having this nightmare where it starts off awesome, I'm banging some coked out 19 year old starlet on a space yacht, but then the space-IRS shows up with my wife, they use her cheekbones to cut through my hull and they tell me I'm going to jail for spaceship-fraud.

So I finally decide to actually make it look like I'm going to make a game and I get my little bro, who's actually a pretty bitchin programmer/producer and I get him to hire a bunch of his work buddies to work in our hometown. But then my loving wife decides that our house in Texas sucks so we have to move back to LA and open an office there so she can "pursue her career", I wanted to tell her they don't make fish-stick commercials any more and no one is going to be casting any parts for "Mostly Fuckable Witch" now that Angie Jolie has fallen to doing Disney poo poo other than the Sci Fi channel. But whatever, LA gets me closer to those desperate 23 year old college drop outs that can pass for 18, so I go with it.

Problem with LA is ol' Turtle decides he needs to still be near me, so I end up realizing the Maple bacon smell from his office isn't from the sunlight hitting his chair, it's from him drinking pancake and bacon smoothies. But now I have to look "active" so I start doing a weekly internet interview where nerds ask me stupid rear end questions about the "game" and I answer them. At first they wanted to have some of the nerds who run the site look at the questions first so they could type up answers for me, but I got bored reading their answers 3 questions in and now I'm making a space game where you can play Call of Duty and the Sims at the same time. Seriously kids, stay away from cocaine, I had to be hit with a tranq dart when someone started to ask me about voxels.

But then after like 20 of these one of the guys working on the game decides I can't be trusted talking to people, so he wants to make a new Youtube show. I figure this is my chance to get rid of my two biggest problems, so I get Turtle and my wife to make this fake news show where they get random nerds from IT and poo poo to talk about spaceships and the right way to draw them or whatever while I go to gaming conventions, where pussy flows like wine if you've got a "Special Presenter" Pass, just wish I could have got on this circuit back when Olivia Munn hadn't yet realized she could do better than videogame news.

It also helps that I'm like 70 million deep at this point too, so I'm actually bagging booth babes, not just the girls with low enough self esteem to dress up like animes and not get paid. So I think "what the hell, lets see what happens when I start selling spaceships I just drew in paint and make my dorky brother actually put them in the game, and the weirdest loving thing happens, I make another 20 million and magazines are writing stories about how much of a genius I am. And everytime I tell some nerd about something, it will always make some other nerds so mad they spend days freaking out on the internet. I'm pretty sure if I announce a partnership with My Little Pony, I could probably make 50 million and cause a few dozen suicides.

gently caress I love griefing

Voted 5, this is the best post that this thread has seen in a long time

YouTuber
Jul 31, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

bathroomrage posted:

The grief is people automating a game they should just quit if they're not enjoying anymore.

Don't miss the Charlie Winsmore video posted on the last page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wk6lZJYCTE

Hah gently caress, Charlie Winsmore has the best videos. In the last Estaban one he found the Goreans.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Croberts is the savior this thread needs

But not the one it deserves

McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy

Croberts68 posted:

gently caress I love griefing

And I loved reading about it.

Holy poo poo.

Croberts68 posted:


But then the dreams started. I kept having this nightmare where it starts off awesome, I'm banging some coked out 19 year old starlet on a space yacht, but then the space-IRS shows up with my wife, they use her cheekbones to cut through my hull and they tell me I'm going to jail for spaceship-fraud.

Hands down best line.

GeurillaWAR
Jul 9, 2014

Croberts68 posted:

(because gently caress Angie's List,


I lol'd


Croberts68 posted:


But then my loving wife decides that our house in Texas sucks so we have to move back to LA and open an office there so she can "pursue her career",


What was the reason for the move? I tend to think Sandi has way too much influence over CR and the game, she is all about the money and her own fame... if anything similar to this is the truth, what a drat shame.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



GeurillaWAR posted:

I tend to think Sandi has way too much influence over CR and the game
Yes, I agree about this. Tell me more of your thoughts.

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




GeurillaWAR posted:

I lol'd


What was the reason for the move? I tend to think Sandi has way too much influence over CR and the game, she is all about the money and her own fame... if anything similar to this is the truth, what a drat shame.

So how much was your ethereal spaceship?

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Agean90 posted:

so is that a star citizen joke or are you just terrible at bullshitting

Pretty sure its a star citizen jok, I was laughing when I noticed that it could be.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
i like to go so hard and so rough that I rip my skin and bleed all over my hands before I blast my man juice all over some bitch's face if youre feeling me here, youre' picking up what I'm putting down

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

THE PENETRATOR posted:

i like to go so hard and so rough that I rip my skin and bleed all over my hands before I blast my man juice all over some bitch's face if youre feeling me here, youre' picking up what I'm putting down

Definitely more interesting than the "griefing is wrong, guys!" troll routine. I'll give it that much.

Croberts68
May 19, 2015

Erryday I'm Hustlin'

GeurillaWAR posted:



What was the reason for the move? I tend to think Sandi has way too much influence over CR and the game, she is all about the money and her own fame... if anything similar to this is the truth, what a drat shame.

I told you. She wanted to try and get work in some SyFy original poo poo because she thought she missed the franchise boat when she couldn't audition for Shark-Nado. I told her Ben had a better chance getting casted as the whale that washes up on shore than she did playing a "Tornado Biologist" But her chances of getting a part in the next Robocop are supposedly pretty good.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
He certainly got the coked up cadence and casual misogyny of a Hollywood burnout down pat. 5/5, would laugh again.

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


drat

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Best gimmick in a decade.

Croberts68
May 19, 2015

Erryday I'm Hustlin'
The poo poo Nerds Care About

So at the end of the last griefing story I said anytime I say one thing to a nerd, a dozen other nerds get mad for days. That's a bit of an understatement, I don;t even have to say poo poo, if loving Ben says some poo poo that even implies I approved of it, a small army of Best Buy hourly employees will be ready to write entire loving essays about how much they hate it while another small army of Target stockers will go to war on my behalf and scream that the other nerds are infact secret nazis or some poo poo.

When this all started we were thinking the game (see possible DEA/SEC/FBI investigation team, I do whole-heartedly intend to make a game) we had the idea it would just be War Thunder meets EVE. Sounded really simple, just make it look pretty and they'd knock down the door. Ben then thinks that some people who played EVE were too mean and the best way to keep them from doing that in our game would be to make it so early backers would have their poo poo replaced for free when they inevitably got it blown up by wandering in to the wrong area to trade someone for space-gold or whatever and then have the other guy's friends pump their ship so full of holes you'd think it was my wife at a casting call. We call this poo poo something like Space-GEICO (I forget what they decided to go with, but I think Space GEICO could have been a really good marketing/advertisement tie-in. But I'd rather go Space-Progressive cause Flo has that weird-lookin-chick-you-still-wanna-gently caress vibe going on) and the idea is it replaces all your poo poo if you die so you don't have to worry about losing something you paid $500 real-world-cash for. But it turns out that doing this after a few months really pissed a ton of nerds off. Our website was over-flowing with slapfights and everytime one of my employees made a statement about it there was practically an e-riot about said statement.

So then loving Ben (Turtle) starts making posts and videos and other poo poo about it and all it does is get the peasantry to continue to revolt. Like I'm pretty sure I could go on tumblr and detail all the VDs I gave to booth-chicks at E3 with confirmation pictures/medical bills circa 2001-03 and still not get even a modicum of the bitching these nerds were doing. So I come up with a plan to fix that poo poo, I tell them we'll stop selling it as a lifetime add on for ships that already exist in the game, and only offer it for ships that we've only scrawled pictures of on mysteriously powder-covered napkins. Not only does this poo poo enrage half the mouth breathers, it also makes sales on imaginary internet spaceships triple. I'm the smartest man to ever live.

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

not as good as the first, but really what is

Kobold eBooks
Mar 5, 2007

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AN OPEN PALM SLAM A CARTRIDGE IN THE SUPER FAMICOM. ITS E-ZEAO AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, CORPORAL FALCOM.
I get the feeling I would care more if I was in on the Star Citizen/EVE shitfest.

It's nice to see creative activity instead of more arguing though, post more of that sweet sweet grief, croberts.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

bathroomrage posted:

I get the feeling I would care more if I was in on the Star Citizen/EVE shitfest.

It's nice to see creative activity instead of more arguing though, post more of that sweet sweet grief, croberts.

There's not much to be in on, all that you need to know is that Star Citizen raised unheard of amounts of money during its Kickstarter because the name Chris Roberts was attached to it, and these nerds lost their minds so badly that they started paying thousands of dollars in exchange for "ownership" of digital spaceships in a game that was years away from having so much as a tech demo.

And when I say "thousands of dollars" I mean per person in some cases. Selling the promise of a fake spaceship over and over brought in millions of dollars in total revenue

Croberts68
May 19, 2015

Erryday I'm Hustlin'
Tech Demo has been out for a year so far, tyvm. And we're releasing a new* one in a few weeks





*(in that it's new to people who never turned off gravity in HL mods back in the day)

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




Croberts68 posted:

I have got all of you beat and it's not even by a little bit.


Lets start at the beginning, I'm a moderately successful guy, I've been lucky to work with some really high quality people who have made me look like an absolute rockstar. I actually even got some decent B-List actors to work for me on a few projects and even got a reasonably hot, albeit failed commercial actress to marry me. I was a movie producer for a minute and even though I lost more money than I made, the "hollywood" contacts I made put me in good enough standing to be able to piggyback smaller amount of funding on to larger projects and turn a pretty solid net.

Problem is my wife really started to just grate on me about her getting work, and the loving Turtle of my RL Entourage kept telling people we were gonna make a big gently caress off videogame. So I'm kinda stuck in a weird spot where I just wanna start funding high budget porno and maybe trade in the wife for a different kind of actress before the money starts to come in and she's entitled to a lot more. Seriously, I've never seen a girl with such a long neck not be able to make it down to the balls, but whatever that's not part of this story. So fuckin Turtle gets me stuck telling potential investors about a videogame that I am literally just making up as I talk to them while throwing out some buzzwords I read in Wired, but the crazy part is they start to eat this poo poo up. Talking about the "upward profit paradigm" in gaming starts to get these loving app developers turned investors as hard as a rock so I see a chance to do something.

So I get Turtle to call some friends and we set up on this website where you make empty promises to nerds and they throw cash at you. So I get a youtube made by my buddy Gil who has a business making music videos for teenage girls who think they're gonna be the next Kesha/Iggy and he green screens my poo poo up so I look like pudgy Scottish Spaceman Spiff. I'm thinking we might make like 2 mil and I can finance a 300K game, pocket the rest and start shooting facial scat porn by Q2 2013. But something far crazier happens, loving nerds start making GBS threads their entire lifesavings on my fiscal chest like some kind of Gordon Gecko inspired Cleveland Steamer. By the end of it I'm sitting on like 12 mil. Nerds, dude. Fuckin nerds.


So Now I'm thinking "How far can I ride this gravytrain before I actually have to do anything?" so I start up my own website, hired some kid out of Irvine of Craigslist to do it (because gently caress Angie's List, I ain't paying poo poo to get some pimple faced kid to poo poo out a paypal button and spaceship drawings) and sure enough I've got 30 million USD and loving Turtle has promoted himself to my assistant. Which would be fine but he keeps insisting on setting up his office near mine but that poo poo's on the East side of the building, so every morning it smells like someone is cooking maple bacon when the sunlight hits his chair. But then the dreams started. I kept having this nightmare where it starts off awesome, I'm banging some coked out 19 year old starlet on a space yacht, but then the space-IRS shows up with my wife, they use her cheekbones to cut through my hull and they tell me I'm going to jail for spaceship-fraud.

So I finally decide to actually make it look like I'm going to make a game and I get my little bro, who's actually a pretty bitchin programmer/producer and I get him to hire a bunch of his work buddies to work in our hometown. But then my loving wife decides that our house in Texas sucks so we have to move back to LA and open an office there so she can "pursue her career", I wanted to tell her they don't make fish-stick commercials any more and no one is going to be casting any parts for "Mostly Fuckable Witch" now that Angie Jolie has fallen to doing Disney poo poo other than the Sci Fi channel. But whatever, LA gets me closer to those desperate 23 year old college drop outs that can pass for 18, so I go with it.

Problem with LA is ol' Turtle decides he needs to still be near me, so I end up realizing the Maple bacon smell from his office isn't from the sunlight hitting his chair, it's from him drinking pancake and bacon smoothies. But now I have to look "active" so I start doing a weekly internet interview where nerds ask me stupid rear end questions about the "game" and I answer them. At first they wanted to have some of the nerds who run the site look at the questions first so they could type up answers for me, but I got bored reading their answers 3 questions in and now I'm making a space game where you can play Call of Duty and the Sims at the same time. Seriously kids, stay away from cocaine, I had to be hit with a tranq dart when someone started to ask me about voxels.

But then after like 20 of these one of the guys working on the game decides I can't be trusted talking to people, so he wants to make a new Youtube show. I figure this is my chance to get rid of my two biggest problems, so I get Turtle and my wife to make this fake news show where they get random nerds from IT and poo poo to talk about spaceships and the right way to draw them or whatever while I go to gaming conventions, where pussy flows like wine if you've got a "Special Presenter" Pass, just wish I could have got on this circuit back when Olivia Munn hadn't yet realized she could do better than videogame news.

It also helps that I'm like 70 million deep at this point too, so I'm actually bagging booth babes, not just the girls with low enough self esteem to dress up like animes and not get paid. So I think "what the hell, lets see what happens when I start selling spaceships I just drew in paint and make my dorky brother actually put them in the game, and the weirdest loving thing happens, I make another 20 million and magazines are writing stories about how much of a genius I am. And everytime I tell some nerd about something, it will always make some other nerds so mad they spend days freaking out on the internet. I'm pretty sure if I announce a partnership with My Little Pony, I could probably make 50 million and cause a few dozen suicides.

gently caress I love griefing

Voted 5, got my $30 for three years ago or whatever's worth right here

ellbent
May 2, 2007

I NEVER HAD SOUL
Worth mentioning whenever Star Citizen comes up that the last video game that Chris Roberts did anything more than a little writing for was released before the original Doom, and the last game he had anything to do with was over a decade ago and went vaporware within a year. But no, dude, he totally knows what he's doing with forty million dollars on a AAA game with Molyneux-level promises behind it.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

ellbent posted:

and the last game he had anything to do with was over a decade ago and went vaporware within a year.

Not having followed his career, which was this? The Freelancer sequel?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Not having followed his career, which was this? The Freelancer sequel?

It was freelancer. It was under development for like 2 years, then Mirkosoft removed CR as project lead and then he ragequit games and buggered off to hollywood.

Freelancer released 2 more years later, with a couple major features scrapped that were later on found and implemented by modders. Kinda like with kotor 2.

What would happen if he stayed project lead? I guess we'll soon find out, end of 2016 is the 4 year time limit freelancer had. :v:

ellbent
May 2, 2007

I NEVER HAD SOUL
Hell, I was talking about the original Freelancer. Three years in pre-production, announced in 1999, the company's bought out in 2001 after no word whatsoever and finally the game is demo'd with massively reduced features just to prove it's not vaporware (even though within the company Roberts had already left the project entirely) and because Microsoft didn't want the whole thing to be a waste. Then it takes two more years to salvage someone worth releasing and when it finally comes out everyone lines up to give it a B+ and say it lived up to Roberts' "vision." Then Microsoft keeps the servers up for the contractual minimum (five years) and buries it.

Croberts68
May 19, 2015

Erryday I'm Hustlin'
Whoa, that's hosed up if true.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

ellbent posted:

Hell, I was talking about the original Freelancer. Three years in pre-production, announced in 1999, the company's bought out in 2001 after no word whatsoever and finally the game is demo'd with massively reduced features just to prove it's not vaporware (even though within the company Roberts had already left the project entirely) and because Microsoft didn't want the whole thing to be a waste. Then it takes two more years to salvage someone worth releasing and when it finally comes out everyone lines up to give it a B+ and say it lived up to Roberts' "vision." Then Microsoft keeps the servers up for the contractual minimum (five years) and buries it.

Ah, thank you.

Lord of Garbagemen
Jan 28, 2014

Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Star Citizen is writing a new chapter in how to troll.

Rocket Baby Dolls
Mar 3, 2006

Normally I don't make aesthetic criticisms in other peoples' homes, but that rug looks like a beaver exploded. If meat is murder, then that rug is at least a severe beating.
I remember a couple of years ago purchasing Dead Island and decided to engage in a bit of co-op for a change of pace. I thought I'd be helping people out in a time of need, doing my bit to help people out. What it turned into was a little bit of progression and then a lot of afk. A lot! After a few days of what felt like my time being wasted I thought I'd make things a little more fun, I got bored of people going afk for ten minutes after five minutes of movement. It got pretty drat boring, so it got me thinking creatively, I could move freely and I could trigger the undead into following me. So any time anyone went afk without warning for more than a couple of minutes I'd find an NPC undead friend and lead them straight to this person. There was one person in particular who was wanting co-op help and went afk frequently, yet still accepted my "help" regularly. I couldn't help myself every drat time!

Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 00:34 on May 23, 2015

Prawned
Oct 25, 2010

Freelancer was pretty good though?

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Prawned posted:

Freelancer was pretty good though?

If anyone has any good griefing stories from it, I'd love to hear them. It had a pretty great multiplayer.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Ugly In The Morning posted:

If anyone has any good griefing stories from it, I'd love to hear them. It had a pretty great multiplayer.

The modding scene for it still lives on. The most popular one, Discovery, adds capital ships, bombers with which to swarm and gank bad capship pilots, cloaking devices, and recently jump drives. I was a programmer for their anti-cheat for a while before internal bullshit made me quit.

My favourite part about that mod and its diseased community and role-playing server was getting a whole shitload of Nomads (alien ships only allowed to be flown by a single exclusive faction, super OP and allowed within the server's hugbox rules to engage people silently, unlike everyone else) together, getting on a Teamspeak or the like, going into a heavily populated system and just silently wrecking loving everyone we saw. People would get real loving mad, and every time someone broke the hugbox "no swearing" rules, we would silently screenshot them and submit them to the admins. They'd usually get a week ban for swearing, and we'd get literally zero retribution for ruining someone's gameplay because we were completely within the rules.

While I miss some of the less stupid poo poo in that mod (and the griefing) I'll never go back because the people who run it were complete dicks to anyone who wasn't part of their group of friends.

But by god, Freelancer was incredible for griefing.

McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
Last time I checked sometime last year, SC had raised something like 56 million.

I can only wonder how much it has raised right now, and to me, that's the true grief. Me not caring enough to know how much nerds have been scammed.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl
Where can I read exhaustively about Star Citizen that is not the abortion of a thread here in Games? Or could anyone do a big writeup? It seems like the ultimate grief so it should fit

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Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The fake Croberts post is actually pretty accurate to be honest.

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