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takamoron
Mar 27, 2011

practice nonviolence plz

sephiRoth IRA posted:

How much time do you devote to go in a week? I'm trying to decide if I want to give in to paying this again. I played a few 9x9s with a friend and had a blast talking out positions, but we are on vacation right now so time isn't a factor.

But back in reality, I have both responsibilities and other hobbies and I know go requires quite a bit of focus if you want to improve.

I never have been successful without someone to drive me, a study buddy, but I also don't have a night a week to connect with an online group or whatever, let alone play an hour- long 19x19.

Ugh God what a post. Don't search this thread, I'm sure I have five posts just like this popping up once every 1-3 years....

I play at our local club every week. Usually 1 or 2 games plus an hour or two of review and looking at joseki, opening positions with other players.

Daily tsumego takes ~15 minutes. I try to play 2-3 serious games a week online. Some kind of study, whether Youtube lectures, studying fuseki or reading is maybe 2 hours a week. So that's probably ~9 hours a week. But I'm in a try hard period trying to get to 1 dan.

Whatever you like doing spending time on is probably the best way to make sure you find time to play/ study. No one is above studying tsumego, but whatever keeps you energized for more, whether blitz, a serious game, Youtube or reading, enjoying the time spent is the most important thing :) I'd be more than happy to help you review games too!

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sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
Excellent comments and perspective from.both of you, thanks. I think I'm gonna try to do some 9x9 blitz even if it's not "true" go

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

sephiRoth IRA posted:

How much time do you devote to go in a week? I'm trying to decide if I want to give in to paying this again. I played a few 9x9s with a friend and had a blast talking out positions, but we are on vacation right now so time isn't a factor.

But back in reality, I have both responsibilities and other hobbies and I know go requires quite a bit of focus if you want to improve.

I never have been successful without someone to drive me, a study buddy, but I also don't have a night a week to connect with an online group or whatever, let alone play an hour- long 19x19.

Ugh God what a post. Don't search this thread, I'm sure I have five posts just like this popping up once every 1-3 years....

I feel the same, I play go about 5 hours a year so I'll always suck but I've given up on my dreams of going pro. I just read books and sometimes I play with my kids, and maybe someday I'll make a Go friend and actually improve.

Lhet
Apr 2, 2008

bloop


Longtime friend started playing a lot and so I've been getting back into this, I played a bunch like 12 years ago and got up to 5-6k, then basically 1-2 games a year. Having a lot of fun and seem to be around 9-10k now. guess the ranking drop is not as bad as it could be - my early game decisionmaking has taken a hit, but my reading isn't too bad. Hopefully I can get through some big mistakes and slither my way back to where I was before by just sticking with it.

Xom
Sep 2, 2008

文化英雄
Fan of Britches
Hikaru no Go stones

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Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer
That's dope as gently caress. That's the show that got me into this game in the first place

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Mederlock posted:

That's dope as gently caress. That's the show that got me into this game in the first place

You and oh, so so many people, heh

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Mederlock posted:

That's dope as gently caress. That's the show that got me into this game in the first place

I was already aware of go but I'm hoping to use it on my kids at some point.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



Gonna try joining the kgs server at some point this week. I'd really like to learn how to play this but I need those first hundred loses out of my system.

Blendy
Jun 18, 2007

She thinks I'm a haughty!

SardonicTyrant posted:

Gonna try joining the kgs server at some point this week. I'd really like to learn how to play this but I need those first hundred loses out of my system.

ITGO isn't a very active server on KGS just FYI. You can find some of us on Discord and I'm happy to play. OGS is the more popular server these days I believe.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world

Well gently caress. I'd liked this channel.

Thirteen Orphans
Dec 2, 2012

I am a writer, a doctor, a nuclear physicist and a theoretical philosopher. But above all, I am a man, a hopelessly inquisitive man, just like you.

Hiro Protagonist posted:

Well gently caress. I'd liked this channel.

Is the channel US based? If so they have no excuse.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Thirteen Orphans posted:

Is the channel US based? If so they have no excuse.

"Honoring the Great Person" doesn't seem colloquial to an American. I'd guess Korean based on the geopolitical historical contexts necessary to not hate Kissinger.

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Hiro Protagonist posted:


Well gently caress. I'd liked this game.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

Pack it up. Go is cancelled.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
Oh, lol https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/s/jilh0TiOIz

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
Best victory on OGS so far, victory against a 3kyu.

Been trying to climb out of 1d on Fox but still keep bouncing back to 1k

takamoron
Mar 27, 2011

practice nonviolence plz
Is anyone going to Go Congress this year? I'll be there, trying to finally hit 1 dan before the tournament and 3 months to go 🙃

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so
Rec me a go set in the $200ish range that isn't from YMI and I can get in the US

Blendy
Jun 18, 2007

She thinks I'm a haughty!

PRADA SLUT posted:

Rec me a go set in the $200ish range that isn't from YMI and I can get in the US

Unless you live in a large city with a large Asian population center with stores I don't know that such a thing exists unless you're willing to buy vintage equipment from someone like this guy https://store.baduk.club/collections/vintage-gear/goban or off ebay or etsy. YMI is the only online merchant I'm aware of otherwise.

kirtar
Sep 11, 2011

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Blendy posted:

Unless you live in a large city with a large Asian population center with stores I don't know that such a thing exists unless you're willing to buy vintage equipment from someone like this guy https://store.baduk.club/collections/vintage-gear/goban or off ebay or etsy. YMI is the only online merchant I'm aware of otherwise.

Especially not now. I think you used to be able to do something like get a board and glass stones from Kiseido and grab some cheap bowls elsewhere, but they only have slate and shell now. Doing direct import from Japan or Korea could work, but you'll probably pay some insane amount in shipping. For reference, I tried adding a set on Kurokigoishiten that was about $160 after conversion rate, and the shipping was $149.

kirtar fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jun 19, 2024

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so

Blendy posted:

Unless you live in a large city with a large Asian population center with stores I don't know that such a thing exists unless you're willing to buy vintage equipment from someone like this guy https://store.baduk.club/collections/vintage-gear/goban or off ebay or etsy. YMI is the only online merchant I'm aware of otherwise.

I live in LA. So.. probably?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Yeah I mean I got my shogi set from some small Asian import store in Berkeley CA so you might go looking for something like that

takamoron
Mar 27, 2011

practice nonviolence plz
Anyone going to Congress in a few weeks? I’m in Oregon and will be there the whole week. Would love to do a goon meet over a game or beer!

In other news the NAGF professional qualification is happening now (side note does anyone know why Mexico isn’t a part of the federation?). The 10 year old just got knocked out and the second and possibly last match will be happening tomorrow morning (roughly 7 hours from now): https://www.twitch.tv/BadukClub

Exciting matches and the commentators are doing a great job.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Huh, didn't hear about it til now. I live across the river from Portland, I might be able to sojourn over some day.

e. The aga go congress has an impressively bad website.

CaptainEO
Sep 24, 2007

Found Something Great Here
AFAIK the AGA IT staff are all unpaid volunteers so take it easy on them :).

Mexico historically aligned with the Ibero American Go Association, I think because of language/cultural closeness, and chose not to migrate over to the NAGF.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

(sent here from the boardgame thread in trad games)

Is there a guide somewhere on how to become good at playing Go? I've been checking out https://store.steampowered.com/app/1264970/The_Conquest_of_Go/ and it's neat, but oh man I suck at Go

Xom
Sep 2, 2008

文化英雄
Fan of Britches
In my opinion: https://senseis.xmp.net/?Xom

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA


Perfect, thank you!

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

You mentioned shygost’s 3 questions here, just wanted to say he’s still around making YouTube videos, and doing game reviews. I’m on his Patreon and get one (very detailed) video review a month which has basically gotten me to 2d on fox. Great teacher. I play so much better when I’m using “the List”

derp
Jan 21, 2010

i'm the president.
you all voted, here i am.
Lipstick Apathy
been playing some 9x9 on goquest recently, after not playing go for 4 or 5 years. im wondering if there are any resources for improving at 9x9? like, videos or books in english. back when i played all the time it seemed impossible to find these kinds of things, but maybe there's been some changes in the go world since the chess boom? are people more into board games in general? though with only 30 new posts in the past year here im guessing not.

Scythe
Jan 26, 2004

Best English-language resource I've found for 9x9 is "81 Little Lions" posted on OGS's forum back in the day.

CaptainEO
Sep 24, 2007

Found Something Great Here
Stephen Hu made a neat YouTube series on 9x9 "opening theory": https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK12cRMakgalAlPnD93ptdOA5r1xSSk_U&si=MDZziepresswGrxA

There are more basic videos on 9x9 from Jonathan Hop and Michael Redmond, and for the more advanced, a couple of pros dabbling in 9x9 (e.g. see Go Pro Yeonwoo's channel).

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Just lost a game BUT looking at the replay I was the one to eventually make a move that the AI wanted us both to play 20 turns earlier, so I'll take that as a moral victory

Tequila Bob
Nov 2, 2011

IT'S HAL TIME, CHUMPS
Every game of Go is a victory - you either defeated an opponent or discovered a lesson to be learned.

Danforth
Jul 11, 2008

distortion park posted:

Just lost a game BUT looking at the replay I was the one to eventually make a move that the AI wanted us both to play 20 turns earlier, so I'll take that as a moral victory

I found the best AI move once in a league game. But then Frozensoul told me it was bad and not to play like that lol. He's right in that I can't follow up on things as well as the ai and should have a clearer understanding of what I'm doing.

Miracle Box
Sep 30, 2024

I’ve been in Go rut lately especially after attending the US Go Congress in July. Haven’t studied, done Tsumego, or played online at all. Right now my weekly club meetings are all I do. I’m an AGA 15kyu and usually lose with 4-6 stone handicaps against the mid to low kyu players at the club. But this week I won against a 9kyu in an even game. I think I’m closer to his strength, now I just hope to regain the drive to improve.

Danforth
Jul 11, 2008

Miracle Box posted:

I’ve been in Go rut lately especially after attending the US Go Congress in July. Haven’t studied, done Tsumego, or played online at all. Right now my weekly club meetings are all I do. I’m an AGA 15kyu and usually lose with 4-6 stone handicaps against the mid to low kyu players at the club. But this week I won against a 9kyu in an even game. I think I’m closer to his strength, now I just hope to regain the drive to improve.

I had a similar experience where I won a 9kyu in person by 0.5 back in the day. That's when I realized I was SDK, or just about. At the time, both of us were elated to have a 0.5 game for the first time. I still have an old grainy cell photo of the final position.

Not sure if this is helpful exactly, but all my biggest jumps of strength happened after a fairly long pause in playing. I never completely stopped thinking about Go and watched streamers and some pro games. When I got back into it, I could feel a shift in my brain that was unexpected and I viewed the board differently.

Miracle Box
Sep 30, 2024

Danforth posted:

I had a similar experience where I won a 9kyu in person by 0.5 back in the day. That's when I realized I was SDK, or just about. At the time, both of us were elated to have a 0.5 game for the first time. I still have an old grainy cell photo of the final position.

Ha! I had a similar thing happened with the 9kyu I mentioned. Months ago he decided he was only going to win by 0.5 and he did. It was a really exciting game, he played far differently than he would have normally.

Danforth posted:

Not sure if this is helpful exactly, but all my biggest jumps of strength happened after a fairly long pause in playing. I never completely stopped thinking about Go and watched streamers and some pro games. When I got back into it, I could feel a shift in my brain that was unexpected and I viewed the board differently.

Honestly that’s pretty reassuring. The other club members have complemented my play lately. Even if I don’t notice the improvement, it’s nice to hear others see it.

I’m sure when I sign up for another tournament I’ll get the itch to study again. For now I’m enjoying just playing once a week.

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sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
I have similar troubles. I've pushed to about 11k before and just dropped the game. I'm in another cycle of interest, but perenially all the in person clubs are a minimum hour drive away and it's hard to maintain interest without that community. Online is cool, but it can't beat in person. I've thought about making my own club locally, but I'm not sure if that would be successful or if I have the time.

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