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I like Hibana as a song!
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Apologies for the double post but there was some videos showing off Rinwell's spell-storing ability and Law's "I get stronger the longer I go without being hit" abilities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cfvbc0pAlM
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Jul 11, 2021 11:10
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Endorph posted:Its had convos during battle but zestiria emphasized it and had a ton of conversations for certain enemy types, versus just stock lines in a handful of situations and a few convos in specific boss fights I feel like the issue I've had is that combat chatter tends to get drowned out a lot between standard battle noise and any ambient background music. Like during the final fight of Xillia everyone comes in and trades barbs and I could not hear half of it.
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Jul 11, 2021 20:25
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It’s kinda dumb when they do that but at least Zestria and Berseria properly subtitle most battle dialogue so you won’t miss out even if you’re playing with Japanese voices. There’s some other stuff you’ll miss out on in Berseria though. 
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Jul 12, 2021 16:15
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ApplesandOranges posted:I feel like the issue I've had is that combat chatter tends to get drowned out a lot between standard battle noise and any ambient background music.
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Jul 12, 2021 18:20
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Mutton, fresh mutton
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Jul 12, 2021 18:27
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During the steam sale I picked up Zestiria and while I went in fully expecting it to be trash I don't hate it? Actually kinda fun? The cast is a little dull and I wish equipment dropped for frequently so I can mess with the skills more but I'm feeling it. Maybe the hammer just needs to drop on it but I've been playing for over 20 hours. The music in the fire trial shrine slaps by the way.
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Jul 12, 2021 18:47
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the water shrine and the last third of the story is when things really fall apart. the bit you're at now is when the game actually kinda works.
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Jul 12, 2021 18:56
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The big thing so far is that the game really wants me to mess around with equipment skills but that's really hard! It's like the game expects loot to shower down like a Diablo clone but I get relatively few pieces from combat and doubly so you can only fuse the equipment of the same name. If you could just fuse whatever to whatever else this system would rock.
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Jul 12, 2021 19:16
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Zestiria takes its first nose dive with the war, but the Trials are kind of abstract so you can slide through them just engaging with the dungeons instead of the Malevolence nonsense.
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Jul 12, 2021 19:31
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I'm sorry did you not like Rising Up?
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Jul 12, 2021 19:34
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rising up doesnt play in the first war scene
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Jul 12, 2021 19:58
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wow I'm getting it mixed up Rising Up is one of Zestiria's highlights, tho
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Jul 12, 2021 20:04
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Rising Up is a real good setpiece (though subject to the vagaries of Zestiria combat) but the game only gets more hosed up afterwards, so it's a bit of a wash.
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Jul 12, 2021 20:07
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The game has gone to such absolute poo poo by the time Rising Up happens that having one good bit isn't enough to be worth it.
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Jul 12, 2021 20:08
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Just before the war scene (I did not know this was coming to be clear) I discovered that you have very granular control over costume attachments and my obnoxiousness robbed the whole scene of any gravitas.
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Jul 12, 2021 20:09
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dont worry the war scene is absolutely comical with or without attachments it's literally just like four dudes slapping each other in a big field
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Jul 12, 2021 20:14
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I mean the animated part of the war is basically the only thing in the game that really shows how mythical and/or horrifying the Shepherd would look to pretty much anyone else. It's a very strange trick Zestiria pulls: it gives you absolutely unique, legendary powers and then makes them feel absolutely boring and mundane.
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Jul 12, 2021 20:17
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Jul 13, 2021 13:13
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Zestiria water trial update: It really sucked! A lot! I had to go back in to get the Normin too.
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Jul 15, 2021 16:30
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Law got his character trailer before Rinwell. Maybe he joins before her, but then drops out for a bit and then rejoins after she comes back? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlT_BEPMuSU
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Jul 15, 2021 17:22
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Junpei posted:Law got his character trailer before Rinwell. Maybe he joins before her, but then drops out for a bit and then rejoins after she comes back? He is a lot angrier then I thought he would be.
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Jul 15, 2021 17:37
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Asbel Without A Sword seems pretty fun.
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Jul 15, 2021 17:41
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played some berseria today for the first time in ages this still sure is a game with way too many mechanics which is impossible for me to have any fun with
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Jul 16, 2021 07:04
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Berseria combat is great Eizen is god. It’s got enough simple stuff that it’s fun to press buttons while you can still do crazy poo poo and destroy bosses from full health if you get good momentum going. The real bad combat is Zesteria and Vesperia
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Jul 16, 2021 07:12
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I hear the game plays itself if you put it on auto
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Jul 16, 2021 07:24
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Amppelix posted:played some berseria today for the first time in ages
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Jul 16, 2021 07:27
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i would do that if it was fun but it isn't! i didn't say it's impossible for me to play or anything. i just can't really have fun and it sours the mood of the whole game. i don't really want to play a tales game where i either skip fights with auto/easy or they feel like a chore the whole way through.
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Jul 16, 2021 07:36
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Berseria's combat is fine, the thing that always turns me off even though I've been told multiple times it's way less complicated than it looks on the surface is equipment management. You pick up an insane amount of equipment that all has tiny little modifies to a billion other stats, and instead of towns having a nice linear progression of new town -> strictly better stuff, there's all this merging and juggling and aaaaaaaaaaaaa-
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Jul 16, 2021 07:59
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that's zestiria's equipment management nightmare's shadow creeping into berseria
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Jul 16, 2021 08:08
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Amppelix posted:i would do that if it was fun but it isn't! that parts pretty fun
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Jul 16, 2021 08:53
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No i don't because i have a hard enough time remembering what artes i set to what buttons and parts in the combo and what they do
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Jul 16, 2021 09:02
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have you considered hitting buttons
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Jul 16, 2021 09:05
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I feel like I've heard this one before
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Jul 16, 2021 09:19
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Berseria's Nightmare combat system: https://twitter.com/ChasingDreamsTV/status/1409932714422194183 Simple controls for humans: 
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Jul 16, 2021 09:21
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Smash Kazuya loving rules
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Jul 16, 2021 09:28
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Amppelix posted:i would do that if it was fun but it isn't! Don't worry about it too much, I also had no idea what I was doing throughout Berseria aside from 'Magilou, turn off their magic spells and hit them back!' either. I hope that Arise lets you get costumes easily and they're good again because nothing in Berseria really wowed me, a bad fan who liked and has only played Symphonia and Vesperia.
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Jul 16, 2021 09:31
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to try to put my problem in the simplest terms possible: i don't have fun trying to engage with tales of berseria's mechanics. i also do not have fun not engaging with the mechanics. so i just don't have fun. and that's not an objective failure of game design or whatever, it's simply why i don't like the game that much.
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Jul 16, 2021 09:33
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Amppelix posted:to try to put my problem in the simplest terms possible: i don't have fun trying to engage with tales of berseria's mechanics. i also do not have fun not engaging with the mechanics. so i just don't have fun. So what would you change to make it fun?
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i dunno, i'm not a game designer. remove the battle system and replace it with one from a tales game i like?
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