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Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

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Yeah, Opera is like ridiculously fast right now. I was thinking it was a placebo effect but it's like working offline on a cached version.

Also, it upgraded and all my custom stuff seems to be working fine. I heartily approve of this alpha and the inline spellcheck is spiffy and integrated into the right click menu nicely.

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Ape Agitator
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Thanks for the heads up. I don't really like the new Opera icon though. The old one seemed fancy with the shadow and lighting but the new one feels low res. All I can think is "that's one red cheerio"

But having been using the betas up to now I really like this new release. It hasn't crashed in forever and, for at least the time being, it seems to close with some expediency which is cool. And the little changes they made to how it handles things finally let me move to a single bar solution with a button for menus, address, and tabs all on one line without anything too clumsy.

Ape Agitator
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Syrg posted:

I have it set on "accept only from sites I visit". That's seriously gonna gently caress the login up?

I can't say that this is necessarily the case but I've found I had tremendous trouble with logging into Yahoo mail because they've got a magic nest of sites they funnel you through in the login process. And I found that the "only sites I visit" thing is really drat specific in only taking from the address you're currently on.

At the very least, you might try relaxing it to "accept all cookies" and try logging in and then set it back the way you want. At least at that point you'll have the cookie you need.

Ape Agitator
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ufarn posted:

Is there a way to protect some of your bookmarks from showing as shortcuts up in your address bar when you type in it? I, er, have some links I'd like didn't show up when other people use my computer. There's are right-click folder features from what I can tell.

This is from a while back but there are a few ways you can do it. You can tailor the name of the bookmark's alias so you can just change it to something that won't show up as you type. If it's the URL I guess you could tinyurl them? It won't help if you bookmark porn like a madman but for a manageable size you can do that and just change the nicknames from "porn" and "terrorism plan" to "pron" and "surprise".

The other method that "works" but may be risky is to delete your porn and terrorist bookmarks to the Trash folder. While they're in the trash folder they're still clickable but they won't show up in the address field autocompletes. However, I have no idea how the trash folder is policed so they may up and vanish. Just copy your bookmarks.adr to bookmarks.adr.backup to protect them. For what it's worth, my bookmark trash folder has often been loaded with old poo poo until I manually empty it so it might be workable. Just backup and it should work.

Ape Agitator
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Lakitu7 posted:

Even if you don't have the bookmarks showing up in there, won't you still have pages from those sites show up from the searches through history? I forget which vaguely-named opera:config item it is but I disabled the dropdown entirely mostly for similar reasons-- even just browsing the forums can produce some thread titles that are embarrassing to non-goons.

Yeah, killing the history logging is probably a generally good idea for shared computers anyway. The less they know about your browsing habits is probably good but it's also nice to be shielded from their browsing habits. It's like walking in on your parents when they're experimenting with a new sex toy. You can't unthink what you've learned.

Ape Agitator
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Sergeant Hobo posted:

It seems that Opera released another pre-alpha build. There's a UNIX build and support for that <video> element (but not for Mac apparently) complete with a Opera Core Team blog post about the <video> element.

EDIT: Guys, it's been at least 30 minutes now and this new build hasn't crashed on me.

EDIT 2: OK, YouTube acts funky if you scroll while a video is playing.

I got that strange YouTube behavior and had it crash once but so far this is a dream of an alpha. Very fast and lots of nice little things (rearranging Tabs is very easy and smooth now). However, I hate that they got rid of the super streamlined Inline Find and now have a clumsy Find bar.

Ape Agitator
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Casao posted:

Why? It still pops up if you hit . or / so why does it matter if it's a bar or not?

The old inline Find was amazingly efficient. It worked as you typed in so you could continue to narrow your search and see the first hit automatically (and if you're a bad typist you know when you've fat fingered a letter). It also worked without any other keystrokes, just hit your hotkey then start typing your word and the page automatically went to the first result. And the whole thing worked out of an unobtrusive popup.

In the new Find, it's cumbersome and less efficient. It doesn't start working automatically, you either have to mouse over to the down arrow or press F3 before the Find bar autohides itself. The screen adjusts itself when pressing it as well which seems totally unnecessary with a big Find Bar that has a lot of dead space. And it's harder to read the text onscreen with the greying out so you can't keep things "found" and read the relevant paragraphs as nicely.

I'd be fine with the new Find Bar if it had more features (like choosing Greying or non-Greying and maybe an option to Find As You Type) and if they also had the old streamlined Inline Find.

Ape Agitator
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I've got a need to make url link files on my computer but it's extremely cumbersome to do this the basic way (you need to drag the icon, and only the icon, from the address bar to your desktop, which requires you to not be maximized and have dead space, you can't drag it to your taskbar or a hand explorer window either). Is there a better way? Is there a custom button which will create a link somewhere, anywhere? In an ideal world it would drop it in my download folder but at this point I don't care if it hid it randomly on my hard drive anywhere.

Any ideas or tips?

Ape Agitator
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Can anyone confirm if highlighting a non-linked URL and right click->Go to Web Address isn't working?

Edit:

krylex posted:

This might help:

I made that fix when I first installed the beta but I'm still getting strange behavior with it repeatedly sending me to the same post multiple times throughout a day.

Ape Agitator
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Just to check, inlind find is gone for good, right? The find-as-you-type kind, I mean.

It's probably the only negative thing about the Beta but it's a big one. Find as you type inline find is nearly perfect but this popup is on the borderline of awful. You have to press F3 instead of Enter to begin searching (totally counterintuitive in my opinion), it has a crazy fast timeout so it's a race against time to press F3 so no dawdling or thinking about what you want to look for, and if you find text you want to highlight the popup will remove itself causing you to highlight multiple rows as the screen shifts back. At least they added dimming options so you could set whether the screen dimmed.

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Mustach posted:

Typing .whatever with Ctrl+G to cycle through the instances still works for me, and it feels just like the old one, aside from it now shifting the page down with the search box.

So, in the 10.50 Beta, when you press "." and then "what" it highlights whatever and what and whathjkhfdjdshjk automatically without pressing anything else? Because mine sits there for three seconds without doing anything until I press F3 or it autocloses. It doesn't even wait as you type in a term so if you want to search for a long string you have to type it in notepad and then paste it because otherwise it'll close on you while you're typing. Find as you type works for you in the beta?

gibbed posted:

If only Opera had options for keyboard shortcuts.

Do you mean using a keystroke other than F3 to initiate a search? It's still the same problem just with a key replacement. Unless my install is broken, it still doesn't find as you type and it still doesn't give you more than 3 seconds to start typing the term and the find keystroke before shifting the page again.

RoadCrewWorker posted:

.F3*
works as always for me.

When I press "." I get the new popup box on top but if I press F3 immediately it doesn't do anything. I have to type (within 3 seconds) or it will close and it doesn't begin searching the page until I press F3. Does your 10.50 Beta behave differently?

If mine is bugged and find-as-you-type searching is still in, I'll submit a ticket but as best I can tell the old find is completely gone. I haven't even upgraded this Opera, it's in a custom Opera Beta folder, so I don't know how it could have gone crazy.

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Mustach posted:

Sounds like you got some bugs.

Could you help me with a bit of troubleshooting. What do you have for the shortcut on your "find as you type" inline find? Is it "Find Inline", "Find Inline, 1", "Find Inline, 2" or "Find" or something else? Because I'm trying everything and nothing is working for me.

Ape Agitator
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Submitting a bug. My shortcuts are the same as yours but my find isn't working like yours at all.

Edit: Just did a reinstall and it's all the same.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2010 around 14:17

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Aunt Beth posted:

Has anyone been having issues with in-page searches (the ones where you hit . and start typing)? I'll hit . and type and nothing will happen until I physically click the 'find next' button.

I just set down for a few hours this morning and figured this out. My search.ini file automatically breaks Find. Whether I copy it from a previous installation or use Opera Link, it's a murder file. Try removing your search.ini and see how a rebooted Opera behaves. I did a total clean sweep and rebuilt my searches by hand (which was a pain) and "find as you type" seems to be working for me finally.

A question regarding "." or Ctrl-F find, does ESC automatically close the Find bar? Because mine doesn't even on the cleanest of installations (literally no Opera Link, no previous files, uniquely named Folder) and it seems like it should.

Edit: So here's the deal. It appears Opera requires that you keep the original entry for "Find in Page" in your searches. You can change the keystroke assignment but if you delete it and rebuild it it will break Find-in-page. It's perfectly repeatable for me. Some time ago I rebuilt my searches to make them better organized and in the process broke the new Find in the process. And two attempts at hand rebuilding my searches revealed that Opera loves that entry in the custom searches and will be a spiteful bitch if you ever delete it.



Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2010 around 13:55

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Kameleon posted:

It does. Have you used a clean install of 10.5 beta? They warn you from upgrading your main install for a reason (not that I listened, but it sounds like I have a hell of a lot less bugs than you).

Cleanest of the clean. I've still got my untouched 10.10 install. Back to the uninstall/delete cycle to track this problem down.

Edit: Just to be clear, if you press Ctrl-F and then press ESC, it immediately closes the Find Bar, right? And if you press "." and then immediately press ESC, it closes the bar before the 3 second timeout.

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Kameleon posted:

Immediately closes, as you would expect from any piece of software.

drat, even with a directory install in something like "Opera Please Work", no Opera Linking, no older files, bare bones install it won't behave.

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Casao posted:

You said you still have 10.10 installed, right? Did you clear our the folders in %appdata% for anything marked Opera?

Yeah, I've cleared the App Data, Program Files, and the one under Local Settings just to be sure. But by using a unique directory, I've also been keeping it clearly separate from any other Opera installation. I got really good at that tracking down the search.ini problem.

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Aunt Beth posted:

I don't think this is the case. I explicitly deleted the 'find in page' entry from my search.ini file. I've had the 'f' search keyword mapped to Facebook search for as long as I can remember. Things are still just hunky dory for me. If you want, I'll post my whole search.ini file, but it's pretty ugly.

It's a beta so I'm more than willing to accept some strangeness but I went through this thing for a while to figure it all out.

- Pristine installation, new unique folder used, no Opera Link, totally generic, no search.ini file in the Apps Data folder (which is correct because it's the default): Find works right
- Delete any entry but Find from the Searches, search.ini file created (to change the default searches to "deleted"): Find works right
- Delete Find from the search: Find hosed
- Re-add Find using the same strings as before "&Find in page": Find hosed

I can't say whether this is still the case with the newest snapshot though.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

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New build fixed my ESC problem so I'm feeling quite happy.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

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Haha, what the hell? I install Beta 2 and now my single tab bar approach has collapsed everything into the title bar. I'm not actually opposed to it but drat that was kind of bizarre to see in WinXP. It's pretty awesome, but how do I control it (like turn it on or off)?

Edit: I installed it and went "oh what the hell, did they change the default skin color to blue? Why, the gray was kind of rocking... wait a minute, that's no moon. That's my title bar, with useful stuff in it instead of dead space!"

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Mithaldu posted:

Can you post a non-thumbnailed version of that screenshot?

Sure, but I thought it got the point across. I kind of expected Win7 to be able to do cool stuff like using the Titlebar in a useful manner but in WinXP it was kind of surprising.
http://i50.tinypic.com/xanhh0.jpg

Edit: Every once in a while things will happen where I'll get a very thin bar between the page content and the tab bar which shows the domain of the site I'm at. It seems to happen when I show the Address Bar on one tab but keep it hidden in all the others. My default is to hide the Address Bar all the time unless I want to check out the whole URL of a site. So if I gesture to open the Address Bar on one tab it seems like it creates this tiny bar on the rest of the tabs when I go check them out. However, sometimes the little bar will evaporate on mouseover and sometimes it won't. Checking under Customize->Appearance and clicking on it turn the tiny bar into the Address Bar so I'll inclined to think that's what it is but maybe bugged out (or featured out).

I've seen this bar in many, many versions of Opera up to and including 10.50 Beta 2.

The tiny bar is very erratic and unpredictable but potentially useful. Are there any reigns to control this wild stallion or must I let it roam free and haunt me from its woodland glade, a creature of mystery and fate?

Picture of the beast (don't look in its eyes, you'll spook it)
http://i49.tinypic.com/v3lw5f.jpg

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2010 around 19:52

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Mithaldu posted:

Thanks, I'm mostly asking so i can show it to others. I can't figure out how the hell to activate that in the first place. (Maybe it's because I'm running Win7 and not using that Aero bullshit?)

Cool. My progression was 10.50 install (whichever was most current on Feb 20th) in a clean directory, hide everything but the Tab Bar/Page Bar, then upgrade to 10.50 Beta 2 using the Classic installer.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2010 around 20:11

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So I'm transitioning into this "everything in the titlebar" approach and it's all conclusively awesome except for the loss of the current page's title in the titlebar. I apparently use it as a reference quite often to assist in keeping my train of thought.

So in terms of the realm of the possible, how can I get the page title back onto the screen in some fashion? Javascript, usercss, widget, specialized Opera skin, some floaty thing? Even if it's truncated to a few dozen letters I think it would keep my scattered mind in focus.

Could the active tab be "wide" even when there are so many tabs open the rest are all down to favicons?
Could a big button be made which displayed text of the current page's title?
Could the status bar on the bottom have a text field added to it of the current page title?
Maybe a javascript which would float letters or semitransparent letters with a draggable handle?
Perhaps one of the existing but personally unused bars could be coopted and reskinned to be very thin and display the page title?

I'm kind of exploring what could be done and then settle into figuring out how to do it. What options do I have? I'm on WinXP, if that matters.

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Mithaldu posted:

Skipping this one.

Yeah, I can't see the logic in releasing this. The sheer volume of bug reports for broken web browsing related to this seems to make any value of this update worthless.

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Anunnaki posted:

Aww, they got rid of the transparent tabs. Any way to make these come back?

Yeah, the latest RC breaks them too. I miss them already.

Ape Agitator
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No, that's been an ongoing problem. Someone even came up with a SA-specific solution for it.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...4#post372503546

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Here's hoping transparent tabs come back, I'm not digging the pale blueness right now. Other than that, the Final seems to be pretty much the same as the rest and hasn't been a crashfest.

I'd kill to have the active tab be "wide" though. It's pretty much the most elegant solution to getting the thread title onscreen now that my titlebar is filled with excellence. Do any of the other browsers (IE, Firefox, Chrome) do that?

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Can I get some education on the new opera:cache? So my most common thing to do with the old cache was let a youtube video finish downloading then drag the cache file to MPC to play it that way (so I had better control and presentation of stuff). I did this by using explorer so I never had much need for o:c. But with the new method of creating a ton of directories this is harder to do.

So if I bring up o:c and then youtube.com I find a number of videoplaybacks which are clearly the videos. But if I click them, it seems to always redownload them from the site. What's the logic behind redownloading a file I currently have on-disk in cache? Is there any way to open the file on the disk through the opera:config dialog?

I'm totally confused by how to make use of the cache browser because it seems to be more of a file history browser than a cache browser considering it seems to never draw from files on the hd. Have I wandered astray and misunderstood it? Is my opera not behaving and you can launch files on the hard drive via the o:c page?

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Casao posted:

This functionality never left.

It was broke as gently caress for me a few updates prior. Turned out to be really finicky search.ini behavior, since fixed and more robust in later updates.

Also, this most recent update is pegging my utilization or keeping it ridiculously high. This is kind of pissing me off because my laptop fan has to go in high gear to browse the SA forums.

Edit: Yeah, I'm slightly aware of that. I was the one who investigated it and experimented the issue.
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sbaldrick posted:

This may be a weird question given the years I've been using Opera on and off, but how to do you stop it from hanging on the last element when it's loading pages. It seems to stop Opera from working all the time. It's basically why I often stop using Opera because it annoys me.

This has been a longstanding problem although the most recent beta versions seem to be attempting to crack it.

Most recent Beta
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blo...easter-holidays

Two steps that seemed to help in the past:
1. Clear your cache
2. Disable inline frames (Advanced->Content->Style Options)

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A question for the UI button gurus.

With the new combo back+forward button (arrows pointing in both directions), is there a way to make it behave like the predictive forward arrow does? If you're on some kind of multipage result, like say a google search with 10+ pages of results, you can press Ctrl+RightArrow to get it to predict the next page and go to page 5 from page 4. You used to also be able to do this by pressing the Forward arrow button on the UI but the new combo button is always greyed out and won't do it.

Is there a button script that will make the right arrow side of the combo button either go forward if there's forward history or predict the next page and go forward if there isn't (basically emulate the separate right arrow function)? Is there a way to make the combo button do that because sometimes Ctrl+Right is so far from my mouse and Mouse5 is bound to another function.

Also, for the new snapshot:

quote:

Fixed DSK-289574 (Painting issues scrolling page when part of the page is covered)
Badass, I submitted this bug. Now I can turn popup notifications for some programs back on.

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For what it's worth, deleting the Youtube cookies specifically worked in my case but looking in the Opera forum thread that seems to only work in some cases. Logged back into youtube with my old u/p and it seems okay so far. It's worth a shot and not a clean sweep like deleting all cookies or anything.

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I'm doing some beauty tweaking and run across a little problem. A fair number of my custom searches are basically google searches with the site's URL included which works perfectly but they've all got the google icon in the search menu. It'd be much better and more useable if they had the icon of the site instead. Is there a way to tweak the search.ini to use a different icon than the one defaulted for the search (in this case google).

I've done a bit of looking and it sounds like adding an ICON= line to the search should work but I'm not getting any results. For example, I tried adding ICON=http://www.epguides.com/favicon.ico to one of my custom searches and it didn't have an effect even after closing and opening Opera. Any ideas?

Latest 10.52 beta on Winxp if that matters.

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kapalama posted:

Since everything else seems to be customizable, maybe this is too:

I am looking for a way to depopulats the context menu into a few simple things so I do not have to look so carefully when I am trying to grab stuff from a web page.

On a Mac and Opera 9.64 if that matters.

You can definitely alter the menus although it can be a bit of an effort if you're not totally sure about what you want to do. But at it's base, every menu can be altered.

I believe this is still valid for all the 10.x stuff (I'm not 100% about the version but that doesn't really matter). The ini file you're after is the menu.ini. Go to Preferences->Advanced->Toolbars and highlight "Opera Standard" under Menu Setup and click Duplicate. This will create the basic alternate ini file in the D & S/User Name/Application Data/Opera folder. Creating a second ini file makes sure it's nondestructive and you can switch on the fly from the default menus and your custom menus like this. Open your ini file in Notepad and then find the menu you want to change. This can be a bit difficult because the name of the menu might not be what you think it is. What I find easies is to look for a menu entry that seems relevant to that menu and see how many times it occurs in menu.ini to narrow it down. At that point it becomes about pruning down those options you don't want anymore. If it helps, I believe the basic right click menu you get for right clicking a web page is [Document Popup Menu].

Play around a little and you should be able to get it how you like. For what it's worth, removing entries is much easier than creating brand new entries so you shouldn't have much difficulty.

http://operawiki.info/EditingINIFiles

Edit: My folder stuff is based on Windows so it'll be different for your Mac.

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I'm pretty pleased with 10.60 for right now. My bigger concerns with the path 10.x had taken was regarding integrating their own JS engine, which stranded Opera a few times as you'd expect.

However, I do wish they retained the optional image only "O" button because it seems remarkably inconsistent to have the button with the text when everything else in Opera conforms to the Customization option of "Images" or "Images and Text" and variations between. I'm fairly certain I know the O button is a Menu and I'm fairly certain that after a few weeks of use any new user will also be familiar with the idea. That I'll have to keep this reminder and lose a few pixels in real estate for this purpose to the end of time seems a bit wasteful. I've no problem with it being the default, it's certainly not a shared concept from other browsers so new users might have trouble. But that's just dying for some customization.

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Dirk Muscleton posted:

I decided to bite the bullet and re-"upgrade" to the latest version, 10.63.

For what it's worth, at one point in time I had the problem of garbled screen during scrolling but that was repaired many versions ago in early 10 if I recall.

Qualifying it that I'm using the new 11 beta, I just checked Dominos.com and it let me use all of their forms from address to coupons (but I didn't order because it's gross). That doesn't guarantee that the official 10 will do so but I haven't had to load up FF to properly navigate a website since early 10 as well.

It may be worth your while to do a separate new install in a temporary directory (like Opera 10 Test) and see if your Dominos behavior persists. It might just be that the upgrade process has left some bug-worthy conflict that is giving 9/early 10ish behavior. If the temporary 10 install works for you, you can consider doing a fresh install and importing your stuff into it rather than upgrading.

It's worth a try and pretty harmless to your existing 9.x data and settings.

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Meiji Mangaka posted:

I've always been cautious about opening a separate window for exactly that reason. If I feel I have to do it I can do a manual session save but any time there's two windows open, you run the risk of closing them in the wrong order and losing your session. Not really sure what the best solution for that would be, perhaps an option to designate a certain window as your "base" window which is saved while others are not.

I think the best solution would be for Opera to store the closed tabs and closed windows between sessions so that if you should open up Opera and find that the single video window you opened is now the dominant one you can just click the trashcan and resurrect your primary window that got closed first. It would be a real "no mess" solution because it wouldn't require Opera to read your mind as to what you consider your primary window and also wouldn't require any handholding to "tag" the right window on your own.

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The tab grouping is really fantastic despite a few "aiming" issues when I was trying to drop them in. No biggie really.
Edit: I take that back slightly. There is a tiny fine line between reorganizing tabs and them getting grouped, especially when they're down to minimum width. And separating them leads to more grouping. It's like a cascading problem.

Just a few things:
I totally understand the badge and why it's helpful for some users but it's a big space killer especially for where I have my address field placed (essentially halving the address field visible space). I really really want to get rid of it.

Autogrouping is the next logical step. It would be even better if it could be the kind of thing you could add to a site preference so that you could autogroup youtube and image sites which could quickly dominate the bar when going through photoshop type threads.

I sorta would like an automatic group for newly opened pages to minimize when I maximize another group. It probably wouldn't work like I'm imagining but if I was Something Awfuling I don't need all the rest of the tabs most of the time so being able to one click them would be nice.

I really think that tab grouping needs to be reflected and be able to be administered via the Windows panel. I mean, if you want to group 20 tabs, it's only logical.

There's a little bit of bizarre behavior going on when flipforward and flipbacking among tabs. Sometimes it would cycle way out of left/right order. Very strange.


One more thing: is the Opera extensions site down for anyone else? I can get to the basic portal but the extension browser leads to a blank page for me.

Edit: Oh my god, gestures are kicking my rear end. I've got my threshold to 5 and the gesture UI turned off and still can't nail GestLeft, GesRight or vice versa with anywhere near the speed or accuracy I could in 10.6. Arrrggghhhh.
Edit2: It seems to only be for left/right stuff, where even the slightest deviation from horizontal translates to up and down. Up/Down gestures seem to be very tolerant and behave with good response. Thresholds don't seem to alter this.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Nov 23, 2010 around 18:30

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RoadCrewWorker posted:

The tab grouping is neat, but can you only 'expand' a single stack at one time?

Seems to be the case. I don't mind it personally but it would be cool if it were a user selection to "Expand only one tab group at a time" because some workflow tabs would be better expanded both at the same time but more useful if kept logically separate.

I've also found a bug with tab cycling (at least with flipforward/back). If you reorder tabs both in and out of groups, the cycling seems to follow the tabs' original order. I just cloned this thread four or five times and created several groups out of them at random and flipforward/back bounces all over the place. This is with "Cycle in Tab Bar Order".

Mithaldu posted:

Try setting it to 30. I'm not sure why, but it seems to help.

I've tried everything under the sun from 1 to 50 for extended browsing time and I've never been more frustrated. I could punch a baby kitten after trying to close 20 tabs in a row with mouse gestures. Nearly effortless before but now left-right seems to be 1/4 success, 1/2 no effect, and 1/4 translating into my left/up and similar gestures.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Nov 23, 2010 around 19:12

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Ape Agitator
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RoadCrewWorker posted:

... a bit tricky because the end of the down pull has to stop below the original up move starting point.

I've been making a dedicated effort to try this and I'm inclined to believe this is the reason for most of my new gesture failures. The second gesture appears to need to be longer than the first gesture to succeed. It doesn't solve the false triggers for up or down when you intend left or right but it's making my success rate improve.

Kind of an awful decision if you ask me though. I would rather the threshold define what the minimum requirement to register be and not a threshold defined by your opening gesture.

Lakitu7 posted:

If this continues to happen for you, nuke/move your user folder to try a clean install. I had that issue when I upgraded a build ago and that solved it.

Thanks, a clean install fixed it.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at Nov 23, 2010 around 19:47

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