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First My Bloody Valentine clip, this looks awsome, that would look killer in 3-D but it works decently in 2-D also  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N3hxazLMUsA
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Darko posted:Ugh, you like part 3? I'd say that was the worst of the early ones; every kill was slowly COMING AT THE SCREEN or badly paced, most of the kills were first person, which had gotten old after the first two, and pointless, and the climax was probably the worst of the first 4. The consensus is basically that 4 is the best of the "living" Jason ones, and 6 is the best of the "zombie" Jasons. I'm surprised that you say that; I've never heard anybody say they like part 4 the most... I mean, the kills are pretty terrible other than Ted and Jimmy's. There's not much tension, either. I'm also surprised because I think the climax of part 3 is the best in the series, except maybe for part 2. The fact that Jason tears apart the house chasing Chris, and that she actually fights back, overcoming her earlier fears, just seems much more interesting that "little kid with monster makeup decides to make himself look like Jason to confuse him", which makes no sense, since Ginny did it much better in part 2 ("Jason, listen to your mother!").
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Dec 31, 2008 01:18
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I guess I'll chime in and say that my favorite is probably part II, followed closely by part I, part IV, and part VI. Part two had the awesome 'Potato-Sack Jason' look, a great opening, a great ending, a competent final girl, and some totally hardcore murder scenes (wheelchair kid getting macheted in the face might be my favorite death scene in the entire series). Correct me if I'm wrong, but did I spot potato-sack jason in one of the new remake trailers?
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Dec 31, 2008 01:31
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Oh my God, Paramount are re releasing Friday The 13th Parts 2-8 on DVD in the UK (They don't own part 1 here, Warner do) and they game them all new artworks and by god they are terrible. Have they no shame? Have thdy not heard the phrase, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.       
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Dec 31, 2008 01:38
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Slasherfan posted:Does anyone even get killed with a meat cleaver in The New Blood, or for that matter, an axe in Takes Manhattan? I'm pretty sure the rest are accurate edit: actually, I think the pickaxe on part II is wrong too. I can't remember anyone getting it with a pickaxe in any of the Friday movies.
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Dec 31, 2008 01:52
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Does anyone even get killed with a meat cleaver in The New Blood, or for that matter, an axe in Takes Manhattan? I'm pretty sure the rest are accurate I remember him chasing Ginny around with a Pick Axe in Part 2, don't think he killed anyone with it.
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Dec 31, 2008 01:59
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:(wheelchair kid getting macheted in the face might be my favorite death scene in the entire series). Do you think Jason killed wheelchair kid, not because he wasn't a virgin, but because he was probably doomed to be one forever? Could this be a sympathetic side to Jason?
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Slasherfan posted:Oh my God, Paramount are re releasing Friday The 13th Parts 2-8 on DVD in the UK (They don't own part 1 here, Warner do) and they game them all new artworks and by god they are terrible. The US DVDs have terrible re-done covers as well. I was trying to find pictures of them on Amazon and found this instead: http://www.amazon.com/Friday-13th-Uncut-Kevin-Bacon/dp/B001K9OXDU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1230725991&sr=8-4 They're releasing an uncut version of part 1 on DVD! Personally I'm pretty happy about H2. I went in expecting the Halloween remake to be a trainwreck because of all the reshoots but I was pleasantly surprised.
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Dec 31, 2008 13:22
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Right but isn't the R2 edition over here uncut as well? So the R1 is just getting the edition the rest of us have had for ages? If it were parts 2-8 uncut then we'd be talking, but we know Paramount's status on that. As for Zombie's 'Halloween', even without comparing it to Carpenter's version it doesn't really work at all. While I appreciate what Zombie wanted to do he just handled it so so badly. There's not a lot that actually WORKS in that film, even Malcom McDowall is wasted.
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Dec 31, 2008 14:15
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Rake Arms posted:When will they remake Halloween 3: Season of the Witch? I for one, love Halloween 3. Do people still have a grudge because it doesn't have Myers in it?
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The Remote Viewer posted:The US DVDs have terrible re-done covers as well. I was trying to find pictures of them on Amazon and found this instead: Was there really that much cut out of part 1? I know part 6 got cut to poo poo but if memory serves they hosed up and used the uncut Kevin Bacon death scene on the old standalone US F13 DVD so in a way some people already have the uncut version.
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Dec 31, 2008 15:18
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PhonyMcRingRing posted:Do you think Jason killed wheelchair kid, not because he wasn't a virgin, but because he was probably doomed to be one forever? Could this be a sympathetic side to Jason? Wheelchair guy was about to be devirginated; Jason killed the girl and then the wheelchair guy.
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Mister Sinister posted:I'm surprised that you say that; I've never heard anybody say they like part 4 the most... I mean, the kills are pretty terrible other than Ted and Jimmy's. There's not much tension, either. Most people like 4 because Jason looked bigger than in 2 or 3, and it was the first one in which he felt like an unstoppable killing machine, mainly because they stopped that first person nonsense in it (but returned to it in 5, ugh). And it had Corey Feldman in it. And Crispin Glover doing that awful dancing. And while the kid thing wasn't so great, the final battle in general was directed better in general (as was the whole movie). Actually my favorite of the earlier movies is 2; I thought about it some more. I can't stand 3, though, for the reasons said, there is too much of that 3D nonsense and it's distracting. And the camerawork/direction is really bad.
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Darko posted:Actually my favorite of the earlier movies is 2; I thought about it some more. I can't stand 3, though, for the reasons said, there is too much of that 3D nonsense and it's distracting. And the camerawork/direction is really bad. That's weird, because 3 is by far my favorite. It might just be nostalgia though, since that's the first one I ever saw.
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The Remote Viewer posted:That's weird, because 3 is by far my favorite. It might just be nostalgia though, since that's the first one I ever saw. 3 was the last numbered one I saw. I saw 1,6,4,8,2,9,7,X,5,3...FvJ
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Here's the problem with Zombie's Halloween remake. Originally, Micheal Myers was a normal kid from the suburbs/small town midwest who, for no apparent reason, murdered his entire family. His psychiatrist figured out that it was because of the presence of Pure Evil within the kid. The entire point was, there was no real logical reason for Myers to become a killer, and it's scary because the implication is that any kid anywhere could go on a murder spree at any time and nobody would see it coming. In the remake, all of that was thrown out the window. Myers came from a broken home, his mom was a stripper, his (step?)dad was an abusive alcoholic, he got bullied at school, he enjoyed killing small animals (a common sign of a serial killer in the making.) The entire mystery of why Myers was a killer was gone. Then, once all the supernatural elements were taken out, Myers still had superhuman strength and was bulletproof. In the original, there were hints of supernaturality, so I can accept some superhuman abilities from Myers. In the remake, it didn't make sense other than he's a slasher, so of course he's unstoppable. I thought the remake was actually a pretty good movie, on it's own. It just wasn't a very good Halloween movie. I would have preferred it if Rob Zombie had changed the title, the character's names, and used a different mask. It could still be kind of an homage to Halloween that way.
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That was my exact problem as well. What made Halloween scary was that any kid, no matter how well raised or from however good a family, could just be evil for no apparent reason. That bad things can happen to people for no apparent reason (Laurie just happened to go to the wrong house at the wrong time). And that pure evil was essentially unstoppable. I don't know what Zombie was thinking as he got neither part "right," taking away the core elements of Halloween defeats the purpose. If anything that should have been PLAYED UP in the remake; since the sequels diluted that (starting with the second and that idiot "sister" thing and getting progressively worse).
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Dec 31, 2008 16:32
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Does anyone even get killed with a meat cleaver in The New Blood, or for that matter, an axe in Takes Manhattan? I'm pretty sure the rest are accurate The surly prophetic ship hand takes an axe in the back in 8. I kind of like those boxes but I'm not in the UK and I already have my boxed set so whatever.
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New Blood had a butcher knife (and a tree trimming saw!), but no meat cleaver. The rest look right, though. I forgive 2 because the original movie poster/box used a pickaxe on it. edit: There were three cleaver deaths in 5, though!
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If I recall part 6 wasn't really cut just a few deaths were shot from different angles. Part 7 however was cut to gently caress and something happened to the original print so it'll never be restored. Of course this is all from the Friday The 13th message board from years ago so who knows if it's true?
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Super Dan posted:In the remake, all of that was thrown out the window. Myers came from a broken home, his mom was a stripper, his (step?)dad was an abusive alcoholic, he got bullied at school, he enjoyed killing small animals (a common sign of a serial killer in the making.) The entire mystery of why Myers was a killer was gone. It didn't bother me that much because it's a reboot, and I have a hard time thinking about the original as if it existed in a vacuum and not as part of a long franchise that made equally egregious missteps.
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They filmed most of the underwater scenes for Friday The 13th where I work. I even got to see the hockey mask guy in a harness being lowered into the lake.
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The Remote Viewer posted:The US DVDs have terrible re-done covers as well. I was trying to find pictures of them on Amazon and found this instead: They're also somehow releasing part 3 in 3D on DVD: http://www.amazon.com/Friday-13th-Part-3-3-D/dp/B001K9OXEE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1230756423&sr=8-1 Might be worth checking out..
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Holy poo poo Pickles, Shock Till You Drop posted some uncut clips from the original My Bloody Valentine, it's beautiful. http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=9052
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Boinks posted:I for one, love Halloween 3. Do people still have a grudge because it doesn't have Myers in it? Probably. The series is
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I think the funniest thing about Friday 5 was not just the reveal, but the fact that Roy was semi-invincible and could casually walk through sold oak wood doors. And that he changes size when he puts on a hockey mask, apparently.
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Maybe Roy was possessed by the Jason demon baby like in Jason Goes to Hell. God that was retarded. I wonder if trying to explain Friday 5 had any influence in that.
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Did anybody else but me notice the amount of "eye gouge" kills in part 5? It was a disproportionate amount. Girl with the sheers to the eyes, Dude with his eyes/bridge of his nose crushed against the tree with a belt, dude pinned to a tree with railroad spikes in his eyes, old black man with his eyes gouged out... I think there might've been others. Basically I just felt like there was some weird undercurrent there, like Roy was killing people who had "seen" too much, but I don't know, then again it's most likely nothing, because there's a lot of cleavers/axes to the face in that film too (dude in the car, old redneck lady, stuttering guy). My favourite setpieces in the series are the RV sequence (Nikki/Cort) in part 6 and the handstand/hammock sequence (Andy/Debbie) in part 3. Mister Sinister fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Jan 1, 2009 |
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I almost cried when I heard the release date for this. I'll be in California with all of my horror buff friends until January 13th, but then I'll be in Boston, where I don't know a single person who likes horror movies at all. Goon meet? 
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I just read online that lionsgate are very close to bankrupsy with recent bombs like The Spirit, Disaster Movie, Bangkok Dangrous and are pretty much relying on My Bloody Valentine to be a hit to stay a float. http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/01/02/will-lionsgate-be-the-next-studio-to-kick-the-bucket/
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Slasherfan posted:I just read online that lionsgate are very close to bankrupsy with recent bombs like The Spirit, Disaster Movie, Bangkok Dangrous and are pretty much relying on My Bloody Valentine to be a hit to stay a float. gently caress, first New Line and now Lion's Gate.
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Slasherfan posted:I just read online that lionsgate are very close to bankrupsy with recent bombs like The Spirit, Disaster Movie, Bangkok Dangrous and are pretty much relying on My Bloody Valentine to be a hit to stay a float.
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Yeah, Lionsgate is one of the last major horror producers now isn't it? I mean, I imagine something would take the reigns if they went under, but we get few enough good horror movies these days, we don't need even less!
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UncleMonkey posted:Oh goddamnit, that is incredibly bad news. Lionsgate is right up there with Anchor Bay and Blue Underground as being a godsend to horror fanatics. Every piece of poo poo that's ever come out under their banner has been more than justified by the risks they've taken on some great horror flicks. If Lionsgate goes under, that is a huge, huge loss for us. Lionsgate also owns the Artisan Entertainment back catalog, which is a somewhat impressive stable of movies for not being one of the "big five". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Artisan_Entertainment_video_releases
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UncleMonkey posted:Oh goddamnit, that is incredibly bad news. Lionsgate is right up there with Anchor Bay and Blue Underground as being a godsend to horror fanatics. UncleMonkey posted:Every piece of poo poo that's ever come out under their banner has been more than justified by the risks they've taken on some great horror flicks. UncleMonkey posted:If Lionsgate goes under, that is a huge, huge loss for us.
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Slasherfan posted:I just read online that lionsgate are very close to bankrupsy with recent bombs like The Spirit, Disaster Movie, Bangkok Dangrous and are pretty much relying on My Bloody Valentine to be a hit to stay a float. Maybe they can do a tie-in to the indie rock band My Bloody Valentine and get all the hipsters in!  Sorry, I'll go back to NMD now...
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DrVenkman posted:As for Zombie's 'Halloween', even without comparing it to Carpenter's version it doesn't really work at all. While I appreciate what Zombie wanted to do he just handled it so so badly. There's not a lot that actually WORKS in that film, even Malcom McDowall is wasted. It has more in common with House of 1000 Corpses than Devil's Rejects, but all Zombie's movies are about the American tendency to take serial killers and turn them into heroes or funhouse attractions. Halloween is less of a remake than it is a satire of the culture surrounding it. The added subplots all contribute to deliberately cheapening the original. The media report overly sensationalizes the killings, Loomis writes a cash-in novel, the first half of the movie feels like a bad TV biopic and the second feels like a bad remake/homage (which, of course, it is). The original is about Michael Myers as an alien, and the remake is Michael Myers as a celebrity. But the thing about explaining his insanity as a result of his crummy childhood is that it's exactly the type of deliberately unsatisfying Freudian nonsense that ended Psycho. I think Zombie was deliberately emulating Psycho, going for that anticlimactic effect, and in how both constantly shift audience identification from one protagonist to another (including the killer). So the movie is quite brilliantly written. The only problem is that, unlike Halloween, Psycho, or the Devil's Rejects, it's not funny or scary, so it just doesn't work. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jan 3, 2009 |
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WescottF1 posted:They're also somehow releasing part 3 in 3D on DVD: I thought for sure that because of how this was shot it would be impossible to ever release in 3D. Boinks posted:Maybe Roy was possessed by the Jason demon baby like in Jason Goes to Hell. God that was retarded. I wonder if trying to explain Friday 5 had any influence in that. The Demon Baby was pretty retarded. In the commentary the writer and director even kind of  at that. However, I love that movie. If you keep all the kills and the basic flow and just replace Jason with the random zombies it'd be cool.Also get rid of that creepy shaving scene. weekly font fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jan 4, 2009 |
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Boinks posted:I for one, love Halloween 3. Do people still have a grudge because it doesn't have Myers in it? Halloween 3 is probably one of my favorite horror movies of all time. I personally think the storyline of an occult group that is trying to mass murder millions of children on halloween is far more interesting and creepier than some loving idiot in a mask holding a machete.
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