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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I feel the pressure,
under more scrutiny
And what I do,
act more stupidly


huh mentally blanked out after effects for some reason

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Lincoln
May 12, 2007

Ladies.

Ferrule posted:

Don't upgrade to the new CC just yet. Illustrator is wonky as hell with tons of crashes and Photoshop...well, have fun scaling things using your muscle memory...

Seconding this. Itís a mess.

kedo
Nov 27, 2007



Since it's a major update it leaves a copy of the last version of both applications when you install it. I now have Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 and Adobe Photoshop CC 2018 on my computer.

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007


Ferrule posted:

This ain't a stupid question, just advice:

Don't upgrade to the new CC just yet. Illustrator is wonky as hell with tons of crashes and Photoshop...well, have fun scaling things using your muscle memory (proportions are automatically constrained. now you hold shift to free transform).

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/254...JAXBgL5mkNpVZug

That was me, sorry. I sent several emails to Adobe asking them to take the most standard, universal feature in every visual editing program and change it to the exact opposite of what it was.

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

kedo posted:

Since it's a major update it leaves a copy of the last version of both applications when you install it. I now have Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 and Adobe Photoshop CC 2018 on my computer.

Well somehow you're lucky because it only left the plug-ins for 2018 on my machine.

Futaba Anzu
May 5, 2011

GROSS BOY

Ferrule posted:

Or Envelope. I don't know if After Effects has that but in Illustrator you can use Envelop - Make With Top Object or whatever.

I'm looking at it now and this would be exactly what I need, nice. So I guess the progression of work would be just make the end product in illustrator then import it into after effects

Rapt0rCharles9231
Oct 20, 2008


Ferrule posted:

Well somehow you're lucky because it only left the plug-ins for 2018 on my machine.

Yeah, there's an option you have to turn on in the cloud launcher ahead of time to stop it from auto-deleting old versions. Of course, you'd only find this out after it downloads and installs a version of photoshop with a crippling problem (2018 released with a bug with the alt key that didn't get fixed for... 3 months?). Automatic updates are a plague.

I'm just thankful(?) that they at least gave the option to go back to the legacy behavior with a simple config file. Before they let you set overscrolling in the preference window you had to enable it by digging around in your registry.

kedo
Nov 27, 2007



Rapt0rCharles9231 posted:

Yeah, there's an option you have to turn on in the cloud launcher ahead of time to stop it from auto-deleting old versions.

Wow I had no idea. Thanks, past kedo!

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

Rapt0rCharles9231 posted:

Yeah, there's an option you have to turn on in the cloud launcher ahead of time to stop it from auto-deleting old versions

Seconding this. Thank you so much. This will save me in the future. For now...I must suffer.

Futaba Anzu posted:

I'm looking at it now and this would be exactly what I need, nice. So I guess the progression of work would be just make the end product in illustrator then import it into after effects

That'll do.

Lincoln
May 12, 2007

Ladies.

Photoshop CC:

I'm creating an animated GIF. I forgot to select all frames when changing the properties of a layer, but I wanted the change to be effective in all frames. Can I retroactively apply those changes to the other frames, because the only option I see is to delete the layer and start over from scratch.

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007


Lincoln posted:

Photoshop CC:

I'm creating an animated GIF. I forgot to select all frames when changing the properties of a layer, but I wanted the change to be effective in all frames. Can I retroactively apply those changes to the other frames, because the only option I see is to delete the layer and start over from scratch.

If you can't undo the move then yeah, that's really the only option. I have a client who's had me create a little over 700 animated GIFs for him over the last year and a half, with no sings of stopping, so if anyone has a solution to this issue I would love to hear it. Even after 700 gifs I'm still making mistakes like this from time to time, and throwing away a whole complicated animation because I forgot to select a frame in the timeline drives me insane.

CaptainViolence
Apr 19, 2006

I'M GONNA GET YOU DUCK


Yam Slacker

is it something you can do in after effects using assets you create in photoshop? i don't do a ton of animated gifs, but i've found that a lot easier than working with photoshop's timeline. media encoder lets you export from ae to gif, although i don't know how well it's optimized.

Rapt0rCharles9231
Oct 20, 2008


If you're using CC, at the top of the layer panel there should be a couple of icons to the left of the propagate frame 1 checkbox. Unify: <pin lock> <eye lock> <fx lock>. It only appears when you have a document with frame animation (maybe video too? I don't use that so...)

Select the frame and the layer with the settings you want, then click the <fx lock> icon and it'll apply the properties for that layer to itself in every frame. Should do layer effects, and layer properties, and opacity changes. The pin lock one is good if you move-tool a layer too.

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007


Rapt0rCharles9231 posted:

If you're using CC, at the top of the layer panel there should be a couple of icons to the left of the propagate frame 1 checkbox. Unify: <pin lock> <eye lock> <fx lock>. It only appears when you have a document with frame animation (maybe video too? I don't use that so...)

Select the frame and the layer with the settings you want, then click the <fx lock> icon and it'll apply the properties for that layer to itself in every frame. Should do layer effects, and layer properties, and opacity changes. The pin lock one is good if you move-tool a layer too.

Oh that's nice, thank you for this. I needed this feature so badly and I feel really dumb that it was just sitting there right in plain sight the whole time.

CaptainViolence posted:

is it something you can do in after effects using assets you create in photoshop? i don't do a ton of animated gifs, but i've found that a lot easier than working with photoshop's timeline. media encoder lets you export from ae to gif, although i don't know how well it's optimized.

I can't speak for Lincoln's work, but for myself I only have between 1 and 3 hours to make each GIF, and the GIFs themselves are made from pre-selected photo assets that require editing in Photoshop (color correction, background removal, etc.) and are no more than 30 frames long max. It's just quicker for me to do everything in one document in photoshop than to edit source photos, save as an appropriate non-JPG format, then set up an aftereffects file for a gif that runs for 12 frames.

Basically, I'm doing quick simpler animations like this:



CaptainViolence
Apr 19, 2006

I'M GONNA GET YOU DUCK


Yam Slacker

ohhh, yeah, that makes sense, those seem like they would be much easier in photoshop.

but if you ever need it, it's actually way easier to transfer stuff from photoshop to ae than it used to be so you don't need the "appropriate non-JPG format" step! i do a lot of color correction/editing/setting up the digital equivalent of cel layers in photoshop/illustrator and then just importing the psd/ai into ae for animation. you can import as a composition so all your layers are stacked properly and ready for keyframing. it even propagates changes from the other programs into ae (up to a pointóyou have to reimport if you add new layers) so i'll frequently mask an object out of a white background in photoshop and then tweak the psd once i see what it looks like on my ae background.

which doesn't seem that helpful for your examples, but might be useful someday for something else!

TVsVeryOwn
Jan 9, 2011





Is there a better way to repeat an sub-animation in Photoshop than duplicating a bunch in a video group?

Edit: Right now if I need something to loop in a longer animation I make exponentially many of the sub-animation.

TVsVeryOwn fucked around with this message at Nov 9, 2018 around 22:15

Futaba Anzu
May 5, 2011

GROSS BOY

anyone who knows their way around the old masters know who did the original for this study?

lofi
Apr 2, 2018



I'd take a guess at Da Vinci, but I'm a long way from an expert.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Do you know itís and old master? My gut feeling is that it looks fairly new

kedo
Nov 27, 2007



I also don't know, but it's probably Aphrodite and based on the pose it's probably Renaissance era. Granted that doesn't narrow it down much!

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment.


Grimey Drawer

Does anyone have a good suggestion for fine point ink pens with a water-proof ink? I use them with my watercolor illustrations. I usually use Sakura Pigma Micron pens, and I'm mostly happy with them, but they bleed slightly.

I've tried Prismacolor's Illustration Markers, and they bleed terribly.

Any suggestions on brands or specific pen types to try?

Pixelante
Mar 15, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.


Franchescanado posted:

Does anyone have a good suggestion for fine point ink pens with a water-proof ink? I use them with my watercolor illustrations. I usually use Sakura Pigma Micron pens, and I'm mostly happy with them, but they bleed slightly.

I've tried Prismacolor's Illustration Markers, and they bleed terribly.

Any suggestions on brands or specific pen types to try?

Finally, one I can answer! I had all this crap on my desk from last night doing similar work, so I ran a quick test of what was in reach. They all did pretty well except for the Kuretake Zig brush I threw in for lols. I love Copic stuff, but I'll admit that their liner is more of a dark warm grey compared to the Microperm and Molotow.

Would love to see what you're doing with ink and watercolour, by the way.

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lofi
Apr 2, 2018



I'm a fan of uni-pin fineliners, pretty cheap and totally bleedproof as far as I've seen. I prefer them to the copic ones, personally.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment.


Grimey Drawer

Pixelante posted:

Finally, one I can answer! I had all this crap on my desk from last night doing similar work, so I ran a quick test of what was in reach. They all did pretty well except for the Kuretake Zig brush I threw in for lols. I love Copic stuff, but I'll admit that their liner is more of a dark warm grey compared to the Microperm and Molotow.

Would love to see what you're doing with ink and watercolour, by the way.



This is excellent! Thank you! I'm currently at work, so I don't have any of my watercolor/ink work available to share, but I'll try and post some stuff tonight/tomorrow and will give you a heads up.


lofi posted:

I'm a fan of uni-pin fineliners, pretty cheap and totally bleedproof as far as I've seen. I prefer them to the copic ones, personally.

I'll also experiment with these. Thank you!

I'm still open to other suggestions. I'm stocking up on new pens and ready to experiment with new-to-me brands.

Pixelante
Mar 15, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.


Franchescanado posted:

This is excellent! Thank you! I'm currently at work, so I don't have any of my watercolor/ink work available to share, but I'll try and post some stuff tonight/tomorrow and will give you a heads up.


I'll also experiment with these. Thank you!

I'm still open to other suggestions. I'm stocking up on new pens and ready to experiment with new-to-me brands.

If you've got a Muji nearby, their .25 gel fineliners are great for detail work. I'm so heavy-handed that I mangle the delicate Copic felt-tip liners when they get under .3, especially on the metal ones.

Futaba Anzu
May 5, 2011

GROSS BOY

dupersaurus posted:

Do you know itís and old master? My gut feeling is that it looks fairly new

it's a master study i did a few years ago and i wanted to know who i studied. it was raphael's lucretia

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

Franchescanado posted:

Does anyone have a good suggestion for fine point ink pens with a water-proof ink? I use them with my watercolor illustrations. I usually use Sakura Pigma Micron pens, and I'm mostly happy with them, but they bleed slightly.

I've tried Prismacolor's Illustration Markers, and they bleed terribly.

Any suggestions on brands or specific pen types to try?

For decades I've used Rapidograph.

theHUNGERian
Feb 23, 2006



I am looking for a use for two bags of ground coffee beans that I would never drink. But since I love the smell of coffee, I was thinking of making coffee scented candles. Is there a certain kind of wax I should be using that does not introduce any additional fragrances?

Suppose I also wanted to make a Ylang-Ylang scented candle, what should I use as a source for the fragrance? Essential oil? And where is a good (high quality, no necessarily cheap) source for it?

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



theHUNGERian posted:

Is there a certain kind of wax I should be using that does not introduce any additional fragrances?

Probably paraffin; relative to beeswax it's relatively scentless.

Fruity20
Jul 28, 2018


what do y'all tend to do when studying anatomy? I mostly look at other people and observe certain things about them, especially for figure drawing.

lofi
Apr 2, 2018



Drawing people is good, or Peck's Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist is a great reference to the inner workings, as long as you can deal with the fact it was written in the 50s and has some dubious racial stuff.

Fruity20
Jul 28, 2018


lofi posted:

Drawing people is good, or Peck's Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist is a great reference to the inner workings, as long as you can deal with the fact it was written in the 50s and has some dubious racial stuff.

hard pass for me. anything before the 1990s gets a no for me. loomis is a exception but i'm still weary really. it also helps that i wanna draw more black and asian people but i struggle to make it more convincing. not too much to look like racist caricatures mind you. we know we don't want that. but thanks for the suggestion. i could check it out for morbid curiosity.

Futaba Anzu
May 5, 2011

GROSS BOY

if we're discussing old masters and anatomy there's really no better resource than the Struttura Uomo. It's in Italian but the pictures and guides are In Depth and from the studies of the artist who taught the likes of Loomis and others from that era.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

A constellation of faces.


lofi posted:

Drawing people is good, or Peck's Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist is a great reference to the inner workings, as long as you can deal with the fact it was written in the 50s and has some dubious racial stuff.

I have that book. I think Peck tried to approach drawing people of color with an anthropological perspective, but it's still paternal (he uses "Man" instead of "humans" or "humanity" and "Man" is always a "he"). And if anyone gets a gut feeling that something was written by a racist and/or sexist, then it probably was.

lofi
Apr 2, 2018



Fruity20 posted:

hard pass for me... i could check it out for morbid curiosity.
Totally fair. I wouldn't bother annoying yourself, it's exactly what you'd imagine a 50's take on drawing different ethnicities would be. Not malice, just lots of ingrained superiority.

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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Fruity20 posted:

hard pass for me. anything before the 1990s gets a no for me. loomis is a exception but i'm still weary really. it also helps that i wanna draw more black and asian people but i struggle to make it more convincing. not too much to look like racist caricatures mind you. we know we don't want that. but thanks for the suggestion. i could check it out for morbid curiosity.

Proko has good concise tutorials on Youtube. He's done with the torso and arms, and is currently on the upper legs now.

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