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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The Sean posted:

TLDR I love dudes who contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people purely for profit's sake

I want to kiss them on the mouth

No, BLM was protesting in order to bring awareness to black persons unjustly being murdered by police.
Rittenhouse wanted to kill these people for protesting unjustness because he's a racist goober.

Him and Luigi are not the same and the only way for someone thinking that's true is if they share anti-minority views with Rittenhouse.



Usually the flow of this thread is:
"I have a question, can someone answer it?"
"Yes, here is the answer"

but you've reversed that and the rest of the thread is like
"Is this dude racist?" and then you keep giving the answer we didn't even want of "yes, I sympathize with racists"


This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my life and doesn’t represent a single thing I’ve said in any capacity.

There’s really no point in arguing with people incapable of self reflection who are intent on making false equivalencies and bad faith arguments. Enjoy your stupid echo chamber of unhinged terminally online weirdos. I’m sure it’ll continue to great for your mental health and grip on reality.

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

veni veni veni posted:

There’s really no point in arguing with people incapable of self reflection who are intent on making false equivalencies and bad faith arguments.

Yeah equating Kyle and Luigi is a false equivalence.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Hey guess what guys, not the thread for this.

(All faith in St. Luigi)

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Tunicate posted:

Yeah equating Kyle and Luigi is a false equivalence.

I never equated them to each other. I equated the reaction to it. On a personal level I sympathize with LM and think KR is a little piece of poo poo. Doesn’t change the fact that celebrating murder is unhinged, abnormal human behavior and I don’t think that is a remotely controversial thing to say outside of a toxic circle jerk like SA.

E: or some alt right bullshit community probably. So many people on this site are so far gone and don’t even seem to realize it. Politics and doom scrolling ruined your brains :rip:

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jan 17, 2025

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020
I'm a manic-posting piece of shit smeared from one end of the forums to the other.
alt right bullshit... get a grip.

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020
I'm a manic-posting piece of shit smeared from one end of the forums to the other.
murder is when a human being is killed but far as i understand it no human died that day

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

veni veni veni posted:

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my life and doesn’t represent a single thing I’ve said in any capacity.

There’s really no point in arguing with people incapable of self reflection who are intent on making false equivalencies and bad faith arguments. Enjoy your stupid echo chamber of unhinged terminally online weirdos. I’m sure it’ll continue to great for your mental health and grip on reality.

Shut the gently caress up

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


kntfkr posted:

Shut the gently caress up

Are you just like, following me around or something?

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Take it to C-SPAN

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice
ok so about those print services

HungryMedusa
Apr 27, 2003


SexyBlindfold posted:

ok so about those print services

Blick

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard
last time I was looking into prints Blick was a lot more expensive than small local print shops, I don't know if that was specific to the local Blick or if it's all of them. The quality was pretty comparable between them. I think the main thing is just actually go to a local print shop instead of ordering them from some website.

HungryMedusa
Apr 27, 2003


deep dish peat moss posted:

last time I was looking into prints Blick was a lot more expensive than small local print shops, I don't know if that was specific to the local Blick or if it's all of them. The quality was pretty comparable between them. I think the main thing is just actually go to a local print shop instead of ordering them from some website.

You have to wait for the discounts/ coupons for blick for sure but when they have them it can be a good deal

Personally I only needed smaller prints so I bought an Epson r2000 back in like 2015 and ran it into the ground with cards and 8x10 and smaller prints. That died and I moved to a Canon pro 200. I made the cost back pretty quickly. That isn’t for everyone though

Sitting Here
Dec 31, 2007
Sorry guys I just finished a very, very long day. Thank you for ending the very off topic conversation. Please don't do it again.

Scam Likely
Feb 18, 2021

THREAD KILLED BY

SexyBlindfold posted:

ok so about those print services

I think I found a local print shop that's willing to work with me. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the suggestions but it looks like online printers are a no-go for this.

VB - Bruere
Dec 8, 2009

Not trying to threadshit but can you actually for-profit sell a depiction of someone's likeness that you don't have the rights to? I would have thought the hosting service would just take it down immediately if not. Not from the states forgive me if it's a dumb question.

e: local print shops I'm sure are a different matter than an online print shop/image on mugs/tshirts type thing.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

VB - Bruere posted:

Not trying to threadshit but can you actually for-profit sell a depiction of someone's likeness that you don't have the rights to? I would have thought the hosting service would just take it down immediately if not. Not from the states forgive me if it's a dumb question.

e: local print shops I'm sure are a different matter than an online print shop/image on mugs/tshirts type thing.

It’s a big “it depends” but something like this probably passes for the same reason that caricatures and parodies are fine.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

VB - Bruere posted:

Not trying to threadshit but can you actually for-profit sell a depiction of someone's likeness that you don't have the rights to? I would have thought the hosting service would just take it down immediately if not. Not from the states forgive me if it's a dumb question.

e: local print shops I'm sure are a different matter than an online print shop/image on mugs/tshirts type thing.

Public figures are generally fair game but jurisdiction determines it

huhu
Feb 24, 2006
I've got a "Watercolor - Cold Pressed / Heavyweight paper" notebook (sketchbook? not sure the term) and the pages have curled in a U shape. I need these pages to be flat. Is there anything I can do now and is there anything I should keep in mind in the future when buying/storing such notebooks?

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Kiss me
Beneath the Luca twilight
Lead me
To your blitzball goal

huhu posted:

I've got a "Watercolor - Cold Pressed / Heavyweight paper" notebook (sketchbook? not sure the term) and the pages have curled in a U shape. I need these pages to be flat. Is there anything I can do now and is there anything I should keep in mind in the future when buying/storing such notebooks?

You can totally set it under a big ol' stack of books on a hard surface like a table for a few days. Usually does the trick.

huhu
Feb 24, 2006
Just had my notebook weighted down for a week and it's still curving. If I put a sheet on the table, the corners are coming up like 2 to 3 mm. Oof.

Peteyfoot
Nov 24, 2007
Is there an online Procreate course that a group of friends could take together? Specifically something with assignments for accountability, and for showing off our (possibly awful) work to each other during the course.

Free would be best, low-cost would be okay.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Kiss me
Beneath the Luca twilight
Lead me
To your blitzball goal

huhu posted:

Just had my notebook weighted down for a week and it's still curving. If I put a sheet on the table, the corners are coming up like 2 to 3 mm. Oof.

Dang. A low iron with some parchment (not wax) paper in between to prevent cooking the pages?

This would be painstaking though because I have to imagine it'd have to be done to each page

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard
What kind of black ink/pen/paint pen can I use that won't smear when colored over with water-based markers? I'm looking to draw some lineart for a friend to color but they're using water based markers and everything we've tried either smears my lines or bleeds into the marker tips.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

deep dish peat moss posted:

What kind of black ink/pen/paint pen can I use that won't smear when colored over with water-based markers? I'm looking to draw some lineart for a friend to color but they're using water based markers and everything we've tried either smears my lines or bleeds into the marker tips.

You want to look for an explicitly waterproof or acrylic artist ink; not all inks are waterproof. Use a sturdy paper as well to make sure there’s enough for the ink to soak in to, probably no lighter than bristol board.

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

deep dish peat moss posted:

What kind of black ink/pen/paint pen can I use that won't smear when colored over with water-based markers? I'm looking to draw some lineart for a friend to color but they're using water based markers and everything we've tried either smears my lines or bleeds into the marker tips.

Microns and some of the Staedtlers will work for a cheapish option. Quite a few India inks will as well if you want to use a brush or dip pen (as said, make sure it specifies waterproof because there's a few different kinds of this). But stuff like speedball's super black will absolutely hold up to water and i've had good success with that personally. But there's lots of good brands.

Just make sure to let the ink become completely bone dry before you add water. If it's even still the slightest bit damp then it will still smear even if it is waterproof.

JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Mar 8, 2025

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I would have your friend consider getting some alcohol markers. I don’t really consider water based to be a good match with inking. There’s cheap ones on Amazon now that really aren’t half bad.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard
Thank you for the suggestions! I'm going to run out after work and pick some up today.

She tried my copics but she just really likes the particular water markers she has and doesn't want to switch :gonk:

I suppose I could just do the lines in black inktense pencils too since that's what I often work in. I just really enjoy doing lineart with pens/paint pens though. When I'm drawing on my own I do the lines after the colors to avoid this problem.

HungryMedusa
Apr 27, 2003


Molotow maybe? I’m not sure how small the tips come but they are fun and dry pretty solid. I tried Poscas but some of them smudge. Sharpie has an acrylic marker now but i haven’t tried them

I wanted to do the same thing a couple years ago and didn’t find a satisfactory answer. It made me want to do block prints in oil inks so I could watercolor over them but then I saw something else and got distracted

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002

I have some frames from Michaels that I'm putting some prints I have in. They come with that brown material backer that I'm sure isn't acid free. I'm not trying to keep these for a hundred years but I would like them to not get lovely since some of them are meaningful. Is there a thinner paper I could put between the backer board and the work or could that eventually get damaged from the backer? The backer has tabs riveted in that rotate into a channel to secure it so I don't think I could just swap in foam core unless there are shims of some kind I could wedge in there to keep the foam secure.

edit: Actually, now that I'm typing all of this out I don't think the included mats are acid free anyway.

Teabag Dome Scandal fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Mar 11, 2025

armorer
Aug 6, 2012

I like metal.

Teabag Dome Scandal posted:

I have some frames from Michaels that I'm putting some prints I have in. They come with that brown material backer that I'm sure isn't acid free. I'm not trying to keep these for a hundred years but I would like them to not get lovely since some of them are meaningful. Is there a thinner paper I could put between the backer board and the work or could that eventually get damaged from the backer? The backer has tabs riveted in that rotate into a channel to secure it so I don't think I could just swap in foam core unless there are shims of some kind I could wedge in there to keep the foam secure.

edit: Actually, now that I'm typing all of this out I don't think the included mats are acid free anyway.

Krylon makes a spray called "make it acid free" that can help by buffering some of the acid that is released over time. I have a can I got years ago but I'm reading that it might be hard to find now. There are probably other companies that make something similar though.

I have a 90 degree brad nailer and a window cutter for mats, but then I worked at a gallery for several years when I was a teen. In the long run, stuff will yellow even with the spray (unless you open it up and apply more every so many years) if the backer and mat are not acid free. I think the sprays are designed more for framing something where the art itself is not acid free but everything else is.

Dangerdave
May 9, 2024

by Pragmatica
I haven't written in... a long long time. Some issues in my life. But I'd like to start writing. Maybe professionally. I think that the below idea is probably the most marketable of the ideas I have at the moment. Can someone please let me know if this is complete trash or if it's worth persuing? I really have no frame of reference at this point.

Post quoted below from another forum - forgive the grammar and loose syntax.

"

I'm thinking of writing a movie called Drone Swarm that is a drone focused movie about an invasion of the continental US by an unnamed unknown force. Kind of like a red dawn for the modern era. Hero is a professional drone racer in his former life. Takes a lot of real world themes and events like the UFO sightings and fighting in Ukraine but then tries to put a fututurology type perspective on it like what are the next steps going to be here for this technology.

Would you guys go see this movie or is it a stupid idea. Tone would be largely serious but it would be a political and social satire also.

tbh given the current social political and technological climate I think it would be pretty easy to get it at least optioned if it's even competently written


edit: red dawn but the USA is kind of the bad guy. I'm thinking that after the initial attack USA retaliates against some (again probably unnamed) foreign actor - it wouldn't be revealed whether this retaliation is even justified but it would involve a lot of civilan death.

theme of the movie would be - people on the ground dealing with stuff happening above them that they can't understand, interpret or comprehend - from both a literal and figurative perspective

also, obviously, at the end - our hero wins the day through his human skill and ingenuity, outwitting the ai- controlled enemy drones

oh yes. turns out that there is no foreign actor, that an ai has been constructing these drones in secret in an factory.... IN THE WASTES OF SWEET SWEET MINERAL RICH GREENLAND


lol. maybe the drones en masse disrupt the intensity of the sun over the grain growing parts of the states and the president destroys Toronto in retaliation because who else stands to benefit the most from a destruction of the USA's crop supply?????


edit: turns out climate change is not human caused but because of the thermal output of AI-led drone construction in greenland and antartica? hahaha lmao ok I'm writing this even if you guys say it's bad nobody steal my idea if it's good ok. It's red dawn meets terminator meets death of stalin.


edit wait poo poo am I describing black mirror"



edit: ideally trent reznor does the soundtrack and it is sometimes indistinguishable whether the buzzing audio is a sound effect or soundtrack. :cool:

Dangerdave fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Mar 11, 2025

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Writing is, in general, not a good profession in the sense of making a living. Even fairly famous authors rely heavily on word-of-mouth and self-marketing, conventions, and all the other "business stuff" that most people focused on the art side would prefer to ignore.

Start writing, keep writing, don't bother with interest checks because, statistically speaking, nobody's going to buy your stuff anyway. A great concept executed poorly is almost always trash (and at best you'll get a "man this author's reach really exceeded their grasp, it's fascinating but my god is it awful"), while an awful concept executed well can be amazing. So practice your execution, which means write more. More ideas will come, so there's no point getting precious with the ideas you currently have.

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020
I'm a manic-posting piece of shit smeared from one end of the forums to the other.
if you paint the US in a negative light they are so not letting you get to film their expensive toys

VB - Bruere
Dec 8, 2009

What happened to the kyoon sax emote??? Just when you need it.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

:sax: is around, but :scax: isn't wtf

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

They finally deleting the "can't wait to delete these" section?

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already
Does anyone have experience with water-soluble graphite? I don't have any good space to work in that doesn't have carpet but I'd like to play around with something monochrome beyond graphite but easy to clean up, so charcoal isn't an option. I'm open to other similar media if there's other good options.

DemihumanResources fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Mar 23, 2025

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

He IS hot stuff. You should see him skateboard
The main medium I work with is Derwent's Inktense pencils which are essentially watercolor pencils except with permanent ink. But they also have Graphitone pencils which are water-soluble graphite, and I've messed around with those a bit.

They're not exactly messy, I regularly use them without a dedicated space and never have to worry about cleanup or anything. I bought a set of cheap water brushes which are great for applying the water without having to worry about having a container of water or whatever nearby. I also keep a paper towel handy and use it for cleaning the brushes, just wiping them against it every minute or so. The key for me (for quality of the work, avoiding warping the paper, and keeping things clean) is to use a very minimal amount of water, basically the brush should be just damp instead of sopping wet - it's pretty easy to achieve with water brushes because you don't have to dip them in water or anything, you squeeze them to move water into the brush tip. I give them one squeeze when I start, wipe the excess water off on the paper towel, and then just brush naturally without manually expelling any more water.

The only reason I don't use them more is because everything I do uses multiple mediums and the Graphitone pencils don't look great next to other mediums, because the graphite ends up fairly shiny while everything else I work with is just matte colors. They're cool though

(Side-note - for non-monochrome work the Inktense pencils are incredible, I've never found anything else that works so well for layering very vibrant colors and I feel like I get color profiles out of them that couldn't be achieved by anything else)


A lot of art supply stores sell individual Inktense pencils these days so you could also just go grab a couple of the black ones fairly cheap and get some cool monochrome effects out of those if you want something that isn't shiny graphite.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Mar 23, 2025

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DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

This is great, thank you very much.

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