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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Disco Pope posted:

I like them, but find their discography intimidating! More accurately, the latest record is good.

Scum and Apex Predator are where I'd start

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Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



HenryJLittlefinger posted:

I love how questions about metal get the fastest and most responses in this thread

goons are dorks and music dorks love metal

Disco Pope posted:

I posted in this thread before about how I want to like metal outside of Reign in Blood more, but find a lot of it too "soft and clicky". One poster really astutely and correctly noted that I might be more interested in noise, which was absolutely correct. I also got recommended Morbid Saint who I dig.

I came across "War Master" by Bolt Thrower the other day and fell in love. Just righteous, no widdle-widdle 5/4 purple ESG 7 string bullshit, just straightforward rage to smash neo-nazi skulls to and went down a thrash-hole.

My question is, assuming I'm familiar with the Big 4 and a couple of other major players (Nuclear Assault, Celtic Frost, Voivod) where do I go next?

i think you might like sabbat; not quite as heavy as bolt thrower but definitely no thrills, there's also this band my friend used to adore which is maybe not coincidentally named after a bolt thrower song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymoUGxa5_aI

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007






Disco Pope posted:

I like them, but find their discography intimidating! More accurately, the latest record is good.

Scum is a classic, but Fear Emptiness Despair is probably the best of their early output. I haven't paid too much attention to what they did after that.

Squinty
Aug 12, 2007


I am late to the Snarky Puppy hype train but I am totally on board and looking for something similar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qo1NFwMhBA).

I've enjoyed some of the other fusion stuff I've found - Weather Report (RIP), Lydian Collective, Animals as Leaders, Chick Corea (RIP) - but I love the sound Snarky Puppy gets with these huge big-band style arrangements and stupidly talented rhythm sections, and I haven't found anything else like it. And they're so drat clean.

Dungeon Ecology
Feb 8, 2011



you might like plini: he lands somewhere between snarky puppy and AAL for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdSMeBrNp4A

Dungeon Ecology
Feb 8, 2011



also ghost-note:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSYr8WEcxrY

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap



Squinty posted:

I am late to the Snarky Puppy hype train but I am totally on board and looking for something similar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qo1NFwMhBA).

I've enjoyed some of the other fusion stuff I've found - Weather Report (RIP), Lydian Collective, Animals as Leaders, Chick Corea (RIP) - but I love the sound Snarky Puppy gets with these huge big-band style arrangements and stupidly talented rhythm sections, and I haven't found anything else like it. And they're so drat clean.

It’s not fusion, but if you like the impressive sound of a whole lot of very technically proficient musicians playing very tight, some of Kamasi Washington’s stuff is like that. There’s a video of him doing a bunch of stuff from The Epic for NPR concerts.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fuck money
smoke bitches
get trees


louis cole/knower. especially their norrbotten/wdr big band sets. but the rest of their stuff is excellent regardless. louis is such an incredible percussionist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stigV__QNzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEmD17kYsE

e- tigran hamasyan has been doing some interesting fusion-y metal-adjacent stuff. he's been working with tosin abasi recently. not in this video but still (please stick around for the konnakol section)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7j7bdEPSd0

Hooplah fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 20, 2021

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



Squinty posted:

I am late to the Snarky Puppy hype train but I am totally on board and looking for something similar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qo1NFwMhBA).

I've enjoyed some of the other fusion stuff I've found - Weather Report (RIP), Lydian Collective, Animals as Leaders, Chick Corea (RIP) - but I love the sound Snarky Puppy gets with these huge big-band style arrangements and stupidly talented rhythm sections, and I haven't found anything else like it. And they're so drat clean.

naniwa express
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XzNlUclEslo

Squinty
Aug 12, 2007


Working through all of these, lots of great stuff, but this

Hooplah posted:

e- tigran hamasyan has been doing some interesting fusion-y metal-adjacent stuff. he's been working with tosin abasi recently. not in this video but still (please stick around for the konnakol section)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7j7bdEPSd0

is seriously amazing. ty!

LionYeti
Oct 11, 2008





Anyone know of some stuff that's like the new Avalanches record, funky dance pop that sounds like its got one foot in the past and one in the future. Besides Daft Punk and Justice, themes about love and loss are a plus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6i681VcRpA

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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LionYeti posted:

Anyone know of some stuff that's like the new Avalanches record, funky dance pop that sounds like its got one foot in the past and one in the future. Besides Daft Punk and Justice, themes about love and loss are a plus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6i681VcRpA

Maybe Röyksopp

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.



Any recommendations for top quality "feel good" metal? Something hard but upbeat, maybe imaginitive. Maybe sort of like classic Rainbow but more modern?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007






A lot of power metal bands fit that description. I don't know who's big now, but check out Stratovarious, Helloween, Blind Guardian, Gamma Ray, Avantasia and Kamelot.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Drink-Mix Man posted:

Any recommendations for top quality "feel good" metal? Something hard but upbeat, maybe imaginitive. Maybe sort of like classic Rainbow but more modern?

If you can deal with folk metal, a lot of Korpiklaani is happy songs about partying and drinking.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.


Drink-Mix Man posted:

Any recommendations for top quality "feel good" metal? Something hard but upbeat, maybe imaginitive. Maybe sort of like classic Rainbow but more modern?

Ultrafilter mentioned Avantasia, and I'm gonna second that especially. The latest album, Moonglow, is just especially vibrant and bursting with joy. Very Jim Steinman-esque.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYvZOe6cmeM

That said, they're also right in that power metal in general is probably your best bet. You mentioned classic Rainbow, and their song "Kill the King" is basically proto power metal, kind of.

I'm throwing out Unleash the Archers as another particular band rec. They're some of the hottest poo poo in the genre at the moment, and for good reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yFH-O05uS0

EDIT: A very quintessential "feel good" metal/hard rock album for me is Electrified by Pink Cream 69. I have this group of friends I have a summer cabin BBQ party with every summer, and this album has been a mainstay at this event for over 15 years now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfcrmEXStts
Quite possibly the most outrageously catchy rock chorus ever.

Nordick fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Apr 29, 2021

loopsheloop
Oct 22, 2010


An autumn for crippled children is really good, anything like them?

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fuck money
smoke bitches
get trees


loopsheloop posted:

An autumn for crippled children is really good, anything like them?

look for blackgaze. stuff like amesoeurs, altar of plagues, deafheaven, wolves in the throne room. alcest if you want something even further from metal

A LOVELY LAD
Feb 8, 2006

Hey man, wanna hear a secret?





College Slice

Hooplah posted:

look for blackgaze. stuff like amesoeurs, altar of plagues, deafheaven, wolves in the throne room. alcest if you want something even further from metal

Also Oathbreaker and So Hideous.

While I'm here does anyone have any suggestions of Prog that's heavy on the electronic/synth side of things? All I can think of off the top of my head is Zombi/Majeure, Tangerine Dream, Pinkish Black, Goblin maybe?

Thanks!

Dungeon Ecology
Feb 8, 2011



Subdivisions by Rush lol

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Dungeon Ecology posted:

Subdivisions by Rush lol

Unironically this. The whole Signals album is pretty synthy, and that song is good.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



A LOVELY LAD posted:

Also Oathbreaker and So Hideous.

While I'm here does anyone have any suggestions of Prog that's heavy on the electronic/synth side of things? All I can think of off the top of my head is Zombi/Majeure, Tangerine Dream, Pinkish Black, Goblin maybe?

Thanks!

apart from some of the obvious krautrock and adjacent bands like Kluster, Ash Ra Temple, Sand, Popul Vuh etc etc, there were a few odd European bands from other places that did that sort of thing, e.g. Heldon or Franco Battiato. If you just want prog with lots of keyboards then there's hundreds of Italian prog albums like that, they really loved their flamboyant keyboards.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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A human heart posted:

apart from some of the obvious krautrock and adjacent bands like Kluster, Ash Ra Temple, Sand, Popul Vuh etc etc, there were a few odd European bands from other places that did that sort of thing, e.g. Heldon or Franco Battiato. If you just want prog with lots of keyboards then there's hundreds of Italian prog albums like that, they really loved their flamboyant keyboards.

I’m always surprised at how much prog there is out there, old and new. Every now and then I start down a rabbit hole of new stuff and there is an intimidating amount. I’m mostly into fuzzier psych organ stuff though, which seems to narrow the scope a little.

More synth heavy prog-ish stuff: Umphrey’s McGee. They’re really a jam band, but they have a lot of really complex arrangements, long songs with multiple sections, less of a verse-chorus structure, and a lot of technical proficiency. But they also just noodle and shred incessantly, so it’s not prog for a purist.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



A LOVELY LAD posted:

Also Oathbreaker and So Hideous.

While I'm here does anyone have any suggestions of Prog that's heavy on the electronic/synth side of things? All I can think of off the top of my head is Zombi/Majeure, Tangerine Dream, Pinkish Black, Goblin maybe?

Thanks!

i dunno if yellow magic orchestra counts strictly as prog, but i’m gonna recommend them anyways

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



HenryJLittlefinger posted:

I’m always surprised at how much prog there is out there, old and new. Every now and then I start down a rabbit hole of new stuff and there is an intimidating amount. I’m mostly into fuzzier psych organ stuff though, which seems to narrow the scope a little.

More synth heavy prog-ish stuff: Umphrey’s McGee. They’re really a jam band, but they have a lot of really complex arrangements, long songs with multiple sections, less of a verse-chorus structure, and a lot of technical proficiency. But they also just noodle and shred incessantly, so it’s not prog for a purist.

honestly you could probably just go through the NWW list and follow up anything that sounds interesting, plenty of oddball prog stuff on there

A LOVELY LAD
Feb 8, 2006

Hey man, wanna hear a secret?





College Slice

Thanks for that guys, not technically prog is fine and I've got plenty of avenues to explore !

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

Yellow Pearl, Blue Pearl, Pink Pearl

Boba Pearl.




I feel like a turd, because I have no idea what I like about music, and have never really thought critically about music other than making a few tracks (like less than a minute long,) for tiny animations and what not... I just want music that I'll like, for whatever reason I can't get Spotify or Pandora to show me things I like anymore, and it's either because of gummed up the system with too many conflicting Genres, or my taste is just really bad. I don’t even know how to get started with the stuff on the OP

So I guess genres, in order of liking them, with the songs in a rough order of favorite, and 3 or four things from my playlist that I like that’s like that:

What I like falls into a few categories though, I love musicals, or songs with a story like:

My favorite in this category: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CexqYQcprr8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrZolM3uCds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PSP2Adz5j8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zi4N1DJDW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgGYhMGxj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBro_H346dI

I guess I also what i can only describe as thirst trap music:

My favorite? It’s hard to pick one in this category: [color=#1155cc]https://open.spotify.com/track/170SwAtJ2U9jgBRfAEOlwb?si=mrmEySLRQ3mQ4HkVjhydzA[/color]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8-2CP21ugY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBcOSYV-xio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wwG34egwI8

Then there’s “Girl with acoustic guitar”:

Favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKAslVnhq2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqR3dNr-2FU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLsYE5MoE3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl_4azIsF1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGT-VxBegag


And finally just like random pop poo poo I like

Favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfDBjWFAzk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPf0YbXqDm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg

So yeah I only have like 60 songs on my spotify, and I have no idea why I like these songs, or what they do for me, but I have been listening onto these and a few others on repeat for a year or two and want to branch out and find new music that makes me happy, tickles that same part of the brain!

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



Boba Pearl posted:

So yeah I only have like 60 songs on my spotify, and I have no idea why I like these songs, or what they do for me, but I have been listening onto these and a few others on repeat for a year or two and want to branch out and find new music that makes me happy, tickles that same part of the brain!

You might like Lana Del Rey?

Tirade
Jul 17, 2001

Cybertron must act decisively to prevent and oppose acts of genocide and violations of international robot rights law and to bring perpetrators before the Decepticon Justice Division


Pillbug

Squinty posted:

I am late to the Snarky Puppy hype train but I am totally on board and looking for something similar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qo1NFwMhBA).

I've enjoyed some of the other fusion stuff I've found - Weather Report (RIP), Lydian Collective, Animals as Leaders, Chick Corea (RIP) - but I love the sound Snarky Puppy gets with these huge big-band style arrangements and stupidly talented rhythm sections, and I haven't found anything else like it. And they're so drat clean.

If you're not done with earlier recs try these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cd-ROtZ3KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GVhrsRVeCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfkShyFLrxs

The current London jazz scene is full of insanely talented musicians, there's so much going on there that could be in your lane.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

Yellow Pearl, Blue Pearl, Pink Pearl

Boba Pearl.




BigFactory posted:

You might like Lana Del Rey?

I tried listening to her top 10, and then a few other songs, and I didn't really like this, like the first 3 or 4 songs were very slow and cooing, and I like things more fast paced I guess?

I dunno, maybe music is really hard to recommend to people, and I'm actually being a big goober for being like "Here are 20 of my favorite songs, do you know anything like this?"

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012

DIG THROUGH THE DITCHES
AND BURN THROUGH THE WITCHES



try Marina/Marina and the Diamonds

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fuck money
smoke bitches
get trees


Boba Pearl posted:

I dunno, maybe music is really hard to recommend to people, and I'm actually being a big goober for being like "Here are 20 of my favorite songs, do you know anything like this?"
Nah, i think it's super fun and not really a daunting task. i'm pretty most other people are here for the same reason. unfortunately the stuff you posted is way far out of my wheelhouse so i can't say much beyond "uhhh taylor swift or charli xcx?"

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003



Wedge Regret

Aside but I play a game where people recommend songs to each other and there is a slice of people out there who are pretty hard to recommend songs too, even for players who have borderline encyclopedic knowledge of recent and current bands etc.. The only thing I can put my finger on is some people really love songs when they're tied to how they were feeling when they first heard it, or (similarly) they're tied to a time in their life or an event or a vacation or relationship, or they saw the band live etc. (They also are bad song recommenders for similar reasons).

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Tits and cooters, Mr Bond.


Boba Pearl posted:

I tried listening to her top 10, and then a few other songs, and I didn't really like this, like the first 3 or 4 songs were very slow and cooing, and I like things more fast paced I guess?

I dunno, maybe music is really hard to recommend to people, and I'm actually being a big goober for being like "Here are 20 of my favorite songs, do you know anything like this?"

This might sound very weird/flippant and I promise it isn't: when I was 16-17 and getting into music I would go over critic lists of "best albums of all time" and find ones I liked. Some of the stuff I didn't like at first ended up being my all-time favorites!! So in your position I'd look for a big compilation of this and just pull up stuff on YouTube at random. Even if you don't end up liking it, hey, at least you can say you've heard [x classic song or album] if someone mentions it in conversation.

More specific, you seem to like a lot of recent fun pop songs, so some older pop jams could scratch the same itch. I'm not sure how "obvious" to start with, but... do you like Prince? And Michael Jackson? The pop songs seem to have a somewhat-danceable rhythmic pulse to them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXJhDltzYVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yURRmWtbTbo

and continuing the trio of "stuff my mom would play so loud when I was a kid that I could hear it from the street"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWurqD68u70

I can't be as much help on the "girl with acoustic guitar" part because most of that isn't my sort of music, but there's a chance this is a fun catchy song that you could enjoy too (total shot in the dark that other people will probably make fun of me for including though):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onidGbvHSb4

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Another good way to find music: find out what artists you already like are listening to. I went down a really deep rabbit hole with people I liked when I first got serious about music.

Anyway, recommendations, yes?

Girl w/guitar: Neko Case, Emmylou Harris, Laura Stevenson.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap



El Gallinero Gros posted:


Girl w/guitar: Neko Case

I think Neko Case would happily beat you to death with her guitar for characterizing her this way, and also I think she transcends the girl with a guitar genre, but yeah absolutely don’t sleep on her if you are even a little into lady singer/songwriter/guitarists. She’s top tier alt country and Americana. Her stuff with New Pornographers is more poppy indie rock, but also worth a listen.

Erebus
Jul 13, 2001

Okay... Keep your head, Steve boy...



Boba Pearl posted:

I dunno, maybe music is really hard to recommend to people, and I'm actually being a big goober for being like "Here are 20 of my favorite songs, do you know anything like this?"

I've had success in the past by starting a Spotify radio station based on one specific song that has the sound I want and going from there. I don't think that gets affected by the other stuff you listen to, it's just "play more like this." You still get some wild misses, but I've discovered some good music that way, and it's sometimes surprising how good the algorithm is at matching styles.

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants


Boba Pearl posted:

I tried listening to her top 10, and then a few other songs, and I didn't really like this, like the first 3 or 4 songs were very slow and cooing, and I like things more fast paced I guess?

I dunno, maybe music is really hard to recommend to people, and I'm actually being a big goober for being like "Here are 20 of my favorite songs, do you know anything like this?"

Maybe Julien Baker? She's a very good Singer/Songwriter.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

Yellow Pearl, Blue Pearl, Pink Pearl

Boba Pearl.




kingcobweb posted:

This might sound very weird/flippant and I promise it isn't: when I was 16-17 and getting into music I would go over critic lists of "best albums of all time" and find ones I liked. Some of the stuff I didn't like at first ended up being my all-time favorites!! So in your position I'd look for a big compilation of this and just pull up stuff on YouTube at random. Even if you don't end up liking it, hey, at least you can say you've heard [x classic song or album] if someone mentions it in conversation.

I did this and found some stuff that I had forgotten I liked, I was really into Ska as a kid, and loved Sublime, ok I was into sublime. Then I went back and revisited some of their stuff, and a lot of it is... Very problematic. Which sucks, I also have been getting tiktoks about Ska history, and how it's roots were not white punk dudes, so some stuff like would rule!

Lana Del Rey was uh... Not good, I did not enjoy the sad stuff, and Marina/Marina did a lot of songs about break ups and what not, which really didn't do it for me either.

Kvlt! posted:

try Marina/Marina and the Diamonds


Marina/Marina had some good stuff I really liked, specifically Purge the Poison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5u3kP85LYI

I went to Neko Case's website, and the 4 songs she has on their are again slow crooning? (Maybe I don't know what this word means,) I really like faster paced stuff. Like, all of the girl with guitar songs I posted are definitely upbeat, and chipper without hitting super long notes? Like high tempo?

Still this purge the poison is awesome.

I also listened to the UK jazz band stuff here.


I know this rec wasn't for me, but this song was really good for the first minute or so, and then I realized it was 7 minutes long with no lyrics and kind of checked out. I also like that persona song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FG85wVSV3o

Epi Lepi posted:

Maybe Julien Baker? She's a very good Singer/Songwriter.

This had the same problem as the Lana Del Rey and other stuff, just way too much sad slow stuff, at least on their top search results.

I also found out about Last.FM which is pretty good, though it doesn't work very well on my phone, which is sad.

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marjorie
May 4, 2014



Boba Pearl posted:

I did this and found some stuff that I had forgotten I liked, I was really into Ska as a kid, and loved Sublime, ok I was into sublime. Then I went back and revisited some of their stuff, and a lot of it is... Very problematic. Which sucks, I also have been getting tiktoks about Ska history, and how it's roots were not white punk dudes, so some stuff like would rule!
<Snip>

Marina/Marina had some good stuff I really liked, specifically Purge the Poison


I went to Neko Case's website, and the 4 songs she has on their are again slow crooning? (Maybe I don't know what this word means,) I really like faster paced stuff. Like, all of the girl with guitar songs I posted are definitely upbeat, and chipper without hitting super long notes? Like high tempo?

Still this purge the poison is awesome.
<snip>

I've never really given recs before, so bear with me, but hopefully at least one of these will spark an interest. Quick note, if you're not into slower Neko Case, maybe try out her stuff with the New Pornographers? Not sure if Challengers is too plodding for you, but they've got a lot of power pop sounding stuff too.

I'm also wondering if you'd like some of the power 80s ladies - Taylor Dayne:
https://youtu.be/7_Dyouvtb98

Or Blondie, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Annie Lennox, Suzanne Vega, hell, Patti Smith maybe. Not 80s, but a power lady - Pink.

Other random suggestions:
LP
https://youtu.be/NFnIuBB9YAo

Matthew Sweet
https://youtu.be/ELwRW_2cdBE

Robyn
https://youtu.be/CcNo07Xp8aQ

Save Ferris
https://youtu.be/PU4PrWRlo_8

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And if you're looking for early ska and haven't already, get you some Toots!
https://youtu.be/wNxNwvjzGM0

marjorie fucked around with this message at 20:02 on May 6, 2021

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