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TaurusOxford posted:He definitely looks more sickly than he's typically drawn. Makes me wonder if that's why Takamura is in a rush. Isn't it explicitly stated in one of his rants to Ippo that he wants to conquer the 6 weight classes while coach is still around to see it? I'm sure I remember hearing his motivation laid out directly like that...
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Jan 4, 2021 08:36
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We have been pretty much told straight up that Takamura's in a hurry because Kamogawa's old as hell, yeah. There's no mystery here.
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Jan 4, 2021 08:54
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If HnI didn't have an ambiguous timescale, and kept pace with real time, Kamogawa would be 103.
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Jan 5, 2021 17:40
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Chapter 1325 You see a little bit of Dragon practicing. Good thing his dangerous punch is the right!
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Jan 10, 2021 04:16
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Coach Kamogawa fought in the second world war. By the time of the current chapter he is fantastically old. And possibly a war criminal.
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Jan 10, 2021 06:21
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It always seemed fairly obvious that Kamogawa, Nekota, and Beardo didn't actually serve on the front lines, which is why they were still in one piece and not totally hosed up for the post-war boxing they did. It's left unsaid, though, but that was my impression.
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Jan 10, 2021 08:10
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EimiYoshikawa posted:It always seemed fairly obvious that Kamogawa, Nekota, and Beardo didn't actually serve on the front lines, which is why they were still in one piece and not totally hosed up for the post-war boxing they did. Yeah they were teenagers during the occupation.
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Jan 10, 2021 13:39
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Only way this gets wrapped up in our lifetimes, never mind Kamogawa's, is if Takamaru gets anime-powered up to latter-day Bleach levels and the rest of his title fights go like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9JOEYxwwbk or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9fmrvYXgtY
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Jan 10, 2021 22:55
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Chapter 1326 this one rules
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Jan 20, 2021 14:33
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I have achieved a single Yakuman in like 2000 mahjong games, and roughly 20 or so failed attempts. So yeah, I wish this could happen to me once.
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Jan 20, 2021 15:39
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Oh lord, I just started getting all my friends exposed to FKMT, and, currently, Akagi, after I finished doing so with them for Ippo a couple of months ago. I'll have to get them to read this arc, at least, even if they're back where the anime ended as far as the manga goes.
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Jan 20, 2021 16:04
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God I hope we get a few more issues of HnI as a mahjong manga.
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Jan 20, 2021 23:56
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I am lollin at art style shift on the last page. That face.
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Jan 21, 2021 02:46
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Yagi being the reincarnation of Akagi is some dope poo poo
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Jan 21, 2021 03:56
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Chapter 1327
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Jan 22, 2021 20:11
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So he's got to be cheating some how right? Or are they really playing up this insane lucky streak?
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Jan 22, 2021 20:48
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*Hajime no Ippo is a boxing manga
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Jan 22, 2021 20:52
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I am very okay with this mahjong side story.
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Jan 22, 2021 22:49
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Jiro posted:So he's got to be cheating some how right? Or are they really playing up this insane lucky streak? i really feel they're leaning into "luck" being his gimmick which i sincerely dont like lol
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Jan 23, 2021 01:36
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Also it just dawned on me that Satoru Iwata is also a Mahjong master in HnI. 
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Jan 23, 2021 02:12
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Mahjong may as well be Bridge for how much I understand about how its played, but isn't being good at it basically Japanese shorthand for being smart or at least tactically minded or calculating? Like Chess to American audiences? Also this arc is chump change until they start wagering with pints of their own blood 
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Jan 23, 2021 05:12
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More like counting cards in poker, actually. (I am thankful to FFXIV for getting me into riichi mahjong, I can actually understand what's going on, even if I don't know the point gains at a glance.) Gross oversimplification for the uninitiated: Everyone gets a hand of 13 tiles, and then takes turns drawing and then discarding until they assemble a winning hand using the 14th tile. Typically, this involves four "sets" and a pair. Sets can be either a straight, or 3-of-a-kind. (See the dog's hand at the beginning of the latest chapter.) The horizontal tile is the 14th tile that they drew. You cannot declare a winning hand unless you have at least one "yaku" (for all intents and purposes, one "token".) Everyone starts with one token on the condition that they do not expose any of the tiles in their hand. You can throw away your initial token to steal tiles from someone else's discard, but need to make up a token elsewhere using special conditions to declare a winning hand. You can stack earned tokens to bump up your score. Scoring involves the losers paying the winner. Everyone starts with the same number of points to begin with. A self-drawn win means EVERYONE pays points to the winner. Winning off stealing someone's discard means that person pays points to the winner. Just like in poker, there are also special condition hands, like the straight flush, full house, etc. One of these that has been demonstrated already is called "Seven Pairs", Dragon's hand at the end of the last chapter. Winning in Mahjong is equal parts luck as it is reading your opponents discards (which are all organized for everyone to see for readability, so you can see their entire discard history and in what order) to figure out what they have in order to not discard the piece they need to win, to stymie them entirely, or get ready to steal a discard. Lastly, declaring "Riichi", or what appears to be wasei-eigo for "Reach" is akin to declaring "Uno", meaning you're one tile short of a winning hand. This can add bonus points to your score at the end of the round if you win, or, if nobody has a winning hand when all tiles are depleted, you still get some points paid out from people who did not get Riichi. However, it locks your hand so you cannot maneuver tactically and you can only draw and discard what you draw, or steal from a discard. Lastly: Yagi's got a great hand here. He's set up for a straight, that is, 1-9 of a single suit. (technically, 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9 of a single suit) Using our previous terminology, the straight is worth two tokens if his hand remains hidden, one token if his hand is revealed. He also has a pair of white dragons already (those are the white tiles, which in and of itself may be used as a wait for a three-of-a-kind) a single West Wind tile, which is completely useless and probably what he'll discard, and an extra 1 of numbers tile, which he could either wait on similar to the dragons, discard, or turn into a 3-of-a-kind of 1s, which would reshuffle the rest of his hand into 2-3-4, 5-6-7, 8-9, and then waiting on another 7 to complete the 7-8-9. This is a weaker hand points-wise compared to the straight, but it's a fallback position. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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Jan 23, 2021 09:46
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Chatper 1328 They're all jealous of Yagi's enormous ron.
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Feb 6, 2021 02:00
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I'm really not looking forward to Morikawa trying to illustrate how a character's supernatural luck affects his boxing match.
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Feb 6, 2021 05:40
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Nilbop posted:I'm really not looking forward to Morikawa trying to illustrate how a character's supernatural luck affects his boxing match. It CAN'T be any more ridiculous than the Wally fight.
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Feb 6, 2021 05:41
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It's also mentioned that he has more then luck. He is also a Southpaw that uses Orthodox stance. Which is actually useful info.
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Feb 6, 2021 05:59
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Chapter 1329
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Feb 14, 2021 19:06
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Takamura praying the coach makes it through and, for all the people who want Ippo back in the ring, seems to be the one with the most 'reasonable' motive. He knows that Kamogawa doesn't have long and he wants someone he trained to make it to world champion before then. Unlike everyone whose desire seems to be "But Ippo you could still go the distance." His seems to be "We can fulfill Kamogawa's dream together." And frankly, that's better than "Wanting to fight Miyata again" or "But you could keep going."
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Feb 16, 2021 01:51
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Yeah I'm half-astounded that Morikawa keeps having someone ask Ippo "Are you sure you don't want to try again" this late in the game. It's not needed to establish Takamura's motivation so often, and the only alternative is he's actually planning to have Ippo make a return, which is just ... bad.
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Feb 16, 2021 06:19
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I'd actually be really surprised if Ippo doesn't return to boxing.
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Feb 16, 2021 06:45
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Nilbop posted:Yeah I'm half-astounded that Morikawa keeps having someone ask Ippo "Are you sure you don't want to try again" this late in the game. It's not needed to establish Takamura's motivation so often, and the only alternative is he's actually planning to have Ippo make a return, which is just ... bad. This isn't just establishing Takamura's motivation, it's also hinting at the "maybe something's wrong with Takamura" storylines that happen from time to time, and emphasizing the relationship and rapport that Takamura has with Ippo even though he acts so un-serious most of the time. Which would make a decent explanation for Ippo's return to the ring, something which is almost definitely gonna happen. I like Ippo's course change to become a trainer, but if Morikawa had any intention of sticking to it to the end, he'd probably be too busy writing a boxing trainer manga or building up a new main character to waste chapter after chapter just dangling and rejecting the possibility of a return to the ring over and over again.
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Feb 16, 2021 07:05
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I'll go so far as to say that if you actually don't think Ippo's gonna come back, you really need to rethink how you read and consider narratives. It has been a CONSTANT refrain of people building up little observations and noticing that if Ippo came back he'd be way beyond where he was when he stopped because of the stuff he's been doing to stay in shape and how much he's actually been learning about boxing. My gut take is that Takamura either loses here or wins but gets injured in a way that makes everyone have to think about his career, and this damages Kamogawa's momentum and his health takes a downturn, which makes Ippo realize what Takamura has been muttering about all this time, and he realizes exactly why Takamura keeps pushing him. This either prompts him to have a heart to heart with his mom, or his mom notices that Ippo's extra out of it, and she's the one that gives him the push to go back.
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Feb 16, 2021 07:44
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Patware posted:I'll go so far as to say that if you actually don't think Ippo's gonna come back, you really need to rethink how you read and consider narratives. It has been a CONSTANT refrain of people building up little observations and noticing that if Ippo came back he'd be way beyond where he was when he stopped because of the stuff he's been doing to stay in shape and how much he's actually been learning about boxing. The only thing is that it would be happening now and for Ippo pacing that's too fast.
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Feb 16, 2021 08:57
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Patware posted:This either prompts him to have a heart to heart with his mom, or his mom notices that Ippo's extra out of it, and she's the one that gives him the push to go back.
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Feb 16, 2021 11:59
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Wait, when did he kiss Kumi?
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Feb 16, 2021 12:56
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  Also lol that I got as far as Googling 'Ippo Ku' before it autocompleted to 'ippo kumi kiss chapter', so you're not alone in asking. I think they've had several ~hilarious~ near-misses as above, but have yet to properly mack down. e: Looks like this is as close as they got back in 1011:  I guess it looks like they both agreed they were about to kiss, half credit? Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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Feb 16, 2021 23:09
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Rubellavator posted:Wait, when did he kiss Kumi? Oh lol haha, my bad, must have misremembered one of the hundreds of ~awkward moments~
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Feb 16, 2021 23:12
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i'm giving 1011 to them goddamnit, they were GONNA
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Feb 16, 2021 23:30
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Honestly, I think Kumi is the bigger hurdle than his mother. She clearly doesn't want him boxing again.
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Feb 17, 2021 03:07
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