Hajime no Ippo: They're all jealous of Ippo's enormous hog

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doomrider7: Nov 29, 2018

KidDynamite posted:

eh you don't really have to rear end pull. plenty of folks "retire" after a loss and come back and fight someone in the top 10 and regain rank... or lose again embarrassingly. once you have a name you can pretty much fight whomever.

This is true and there some unusual outliers who do well even coming off retirement. Mind you, said outliers were people who made their careers absolutely MINIMIZING the amount of damage they took throughout their careers(Floyd Mayweather, George St. Pierre). Ippo has...not exactly done this...AT ALL.

doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Mar 15, 2021

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# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:43

Artelier: Jan 23, 2015

doomrider7 posted:

This is true and there some unusual outliers who do well even coming off retirement. Mind you, said outliers were people who made their careers absolutely MINIMIZING the amount of damage they took throughout their careers(Floyd Mayweather, George St. Pierre). Ippo has...not exactly done this...AT ALL.

In universe there's also Date FIGHTING SPIRIT Eiji

# ? Mar 15, 2021 04:32

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

doomrider7 posted:

This is true and there some unusual outliers who do well even coming off retirement. Mind you, said outliers were people who made their careers absolutely MINIMIZING the amount of damage they took throughout their careers(Floyd Mayweather, George St. Pierre). Ippo has...not exactly done this...AT ALL.

But now, he's learning how to actually fight. So anything is possible

# ? Mar 15, 2021 04:47

Dias: Feb 20, 2011; by sebmojo

Eh, Ippo seems like a fan favorite that had a sudden retirement due to accumulated damage and never quite realized his potential. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a tune-up fight and immediately got offered a #1 contender bout for the Japanese title or whatever. People love comeback stories.

# ? Mar 15, 2021 05:06

Takes No Damage: Nov 20, 2004; The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.; Grimey Drawer

MonsterEnvy posted:

He already did that. It called a forehead block.

Isn't that literally his first fight in the Pro test? Or was that the guy who was throwing fouls like intentional foreheading and Ippo decided that was fine as long as he knew it was coming and could just tank it with his own skull?

In fact, isn't it his very first fight in the manga VS Miyata where he survives a counter by jumping into it so it doesn't have as much power, like Sean Connery charging that torpedo in Hunt for Red October?

# ? Mar 15, 2021 07:11

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Counterpoint, Ippo hasn't had a very large number of fights, just a pretty average amount. Also, many of those fights, despite him getting hit a lot, ended fairly quickly.

So yeah, definitely damage, but it's not like he had 30+ fights going out to 10+ rds or anything.

It's not great or anything ofc.

# ? Mar 15, 2021 15:10

Dias: Feb 20, 2011; by sebmojo

A cool way to leapfrog Ippo to a world contender position would be for a promoter to offer him a title fight trying to build up one of his fighters with a win over someone once considered a top prospect.

# ? Mar 15, 2021 17:44

Centzon Totochtin: Jan 2, 2009

Miyata announces plans to move to a heavier weight class so ippo returns to fight him before he makes the move

Then they fight and kiss

# ? Mar 15, 2021 17:52

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

I ordered the first volume of the new Ippo Bluray and it should be arriving this week I think.

# ? Mar 15, 2021 19:51

duckdealer: Feb 28, 2011

Fabricated posted:

I ordered the first volume of the new Ippo Bluray and it should be arriving this week I think.

Nice! I've been doing a rewatch of the show but just using Crunchyroll.

# ? Mar 15, 2021 20:28

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

duckdealer posted:

Nice! I've been doing a rewatch of the show but just using Crunchyroll.

It arrived today and I watched it via my PS5 on a 4k TV. It's about as good of a transfer as you can hope for an older 4:3 series. I instinctively switched it to Japanese but I should listen to the dub.

# ? Mar 16, 2021 02:13

MonsterEnvy: Feb 4, 2012; Shocked I tell you

New one.

http://hni-scantrad.com/eng/lel/?manga=Hajime+no+Ippo&chapter=Chapter+1334#page=1

# ? Mar 22, 2021 18:41

Boco_T: Mar 12, 2003; la calaca tilica y flaca

This one's excellent, can't wait for the fight

# ? Mar 22, 2021 18:51

Hypocrisy: Oct 4, 2006; Lord of Sarcasm

Shame about the break next week.

# ? Mar 22, 2021 22:17

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

Thinking of my favorite moments in the manga and most of them are early on- there's a lot of later fights I like (even counting the lurch in the manga's general quality), but I think the two moments I like the most are Takamura related. Him describing his first match and why boxing drew him in ("The applause came down like rain. It was the first time I had been praised for doing anything."), and him psyching himself up for the match with Hawk where he calms down because he remembers how much he enjoys being around everyone and thanks god he found boxing.

# ? Mar 23, 2021 02:40

ccubed: Jul 14, 2016; How's it hanging, brah?

Page 7 is another indicator that the old man is dying soon. "Laughter is good for the immune system."

# ? Mar 27, 2021 05:51

Takes No Damage: Nov 20, 2004; The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.; Grimey Drawer

ccubed posted:

Page 7 is another indicator that the old man is dying soon. "Laughter is good for the immune system."

I caught that too, as did Ippo with his new Super Observation Skillz^TM. I thought they used those giant mahjong sticks to throw into the ring and get some crazy lucky hand to psyche out his opponents, but I guess he just likes waving them around during his entrance :shobon:

# ? Mar 27, 2021 09:32

Hypocrisy: Oct 4, 2006; Lord of Sarcasm

Chapter 1335

The fight...is good.

# ? Apr 6, 2021 15:34

Dias: Feb 20, 2011; by sebmojo

Top-notch dialogue this chapter.

# ? Apr 6, 2021 17:17

Jiro: Jan 13, 2004

Man I wanna see this poo poo animated so bad.

# ? Apr 7, 2021 04:06

Frabba: May 30, 2008; Investing in chewy toy futures

Dias posted:

Top-notch dialogue this chapter.

I know it's probably not the correct literal translation, but I mentally substituted Takamuras dialog on page 9 with "Where is your god now?"

# ? Apr 7, 2021 17:17

Takes No Damage: Nov 20, 2004; The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.; Grimey Drawer

Hypocrisy posted:

The fight...is good.

Dias posted:

Top-notch dialogue this chapter.

Being able to show a fight progressing clearly without the characters stopping time to inner-monologue and describe everything to the reader is something Morikawa used to be really good at, back around the time Ippo first took the Japanese championship. Hopefully he keeps it up!

Frabba posted:

I know it's probably not the correct literal translation, but I mentally substituted Takamuras dialog on page 9 with "Where is your god now?"

"Don't blame me if you lose..."

# ? Apr 8, 2021 05:38

Hypocrisy: Oct 4, 2006; Lord of Sarcasm

More Ippo during these trying times.

# ? Apr 11, 2021 00:21

Rubellavator: Aug 16, 2007

Will this be it? Will Takamura finally lose a fight? Seems kinda unfair to just have one of your characters ominously say "I GOT A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS"

# ? Apr 11, 2021 01:45

Bushmaori: Mar 8, 2009

Rubellavator posted:

Will this be it? Will Takamura finally lose a fight? Seems kinda unfair to just have one of your characters ominously say "I GOT A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS"

I mean it seems unlikely, but it also looks like Ippo needs something to kick him into action again. I was thinking like Ippo notices something that coach and Takamura didn't, maybe points it out and that's why Takamura wins.
I will bet 5c on this prediction.

# ? Apr 11, 2021 01:57

tbp: Mar 1, 2008; DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

Rubellavator posted:

Will this be it? Will Takamura finally lose a fight? Seems kinda unfair to just have one of your characters ominously say "I GOT A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS"

there is absolutely no chance whatsoever takamura loses here. it's just one of mori's classic ways to hype us up about some twist that makes it look like he's ABOUT to lose, after which takamura supermans himself through the challenge demonstrating some aspect of mentality and/or boxing skill necessary for ippo to internalize and incorporate in his own repetoir

from a metanarrative sense, the build up on dragon was so shallow that it'd be pretty absurd if THIS is who takamura lost to. i'd have to imagine we'd have a bit more buildup for the character that eventually takes him down, if one even exists

# ? Apr 11, 2021 04:50

Patware: Jan 3, 2005

i don't think takamura loses but i think he's gonna get real close

# ? Apr 11, 2021 05:09

MonsterEnvy: Feb 4, 2012; Shocked I tell you

Yeah I am pretty sure he will win, but Dragon will probably be his hardest fight.

# ? Apr 11, 2021 06:51

TaurusOxford: Feb 10, 2009; Dad of the Year 2021

Patware posted:

i don't think takamura loses but i think he's gonna get real close

I don't know how it possibly could get closer than Bison, who had Takamura so seemingly defeated that Ippo and the gang had to physically stop Kamogawa from throwing in the towel.

# ? Apr 11, 2021 15:21