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RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Cool. I just bought a new Sector 9 longboard to coast around the neighborhood with my kid while she rides her razor. We rode for a few hours today; I actually wore my six-year-old out which I thought was impossible. I think it's called a Gremmie; I bought it new (or very much like new) off Craigslist for $130. If the price is high I don't care, but I don't think it is. But it has uhm 65mm 78a wheels, Gullwing trucks (dunno what kind), 40" solid wood (birch is what the guy told me) deck. Already wiped out pretty hard when my back foot was over the tailend and for some reason I lifted my front foot off. Thankfully my kid saw it, because when she wiped out pretty hard on her razor (shut up she's six) she remembered daddy walked it off and got back on the board.

I'm pretty enthusiastic. It was a really great day for us. I used to dread when she would ask me to go on scooter rides because it was boring as gently caress walking behind her. Now I run her rear end in the dirt.

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RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


I am the most obnoxious longboarding old person ever. I ride it literally everywhere.*

I noticed that the tip of my board's tail is starting to splinter. How do I fix this, or do I? Also, holy gently caress my feet get loving tired from steering back and forth. Is there a good shoe that combats this?

I'm glad I was in pretty good shape before I started skateboarding, otherwise I would totally quit. It's definitely a workout steering that little fucker around, plus having good core strength is key for actually making those tight turns.

Finally, I spend like $25 on a pro-tec helmet. Hope it doesn't suck.

*I am 30 years old

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Shania Twain posted:

RobotEmpire
I dont ride longboards, but i notice that when I wear out a pair of basic skateboarding shoes my feet start to hurt. I usually just get a cheap pair off of ccs.com because they always have stuff in their sale section. I know a lot of the longboarders I see during the summer wear flip flops because its cool so I'm not sure if thats what your problem is, but really any flat pair of shoes is skateable. I used to rock reebok classics when they were cheaper than any name brand shoe.

Yeah I'm wearing my Vibram FiveFingers now. Board's a lot more steerable when I don't have an inch of shoe material between me and the board.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


donJonSwan posted:

Go out and get a pair of skate shoes.

Those creepy space feet are hideous and embarrassing.

Dude, I'm a 30-year-old guy riding around a long board in a low-income neighborhood with a six-year-old riding a Razor scooter. Hideous and embarrassing shoes are the least of my worries.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Mincher posted:

So my leg is feeling better and i'm taking up the task of getting comfortable rolling switch.

Jesus. It's like i've never skated!

P.S. Those footgloves made me snort and guffaw like crazy. Hideous but intriguing.

They're not really any better than wearing a thin-soled shoe like my Onitsuka Tigers. Having very, very little between your foot and the thing you're standing on makes a huge difference on your ability to balance. I'm talking in general, not just skating. Running, weight lifting, and yeah longboarding too.

In other news, where in general is a good place to cruise? I don't mean like in my town, but what kind of places are good to go to? My kid and I are pretty tired of tooling around the neighborhood, and I don't want to just drive to a different neighborhood.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Sirkus posted:

Get some pads for your kid and find some hills to bomb, one of the best feelings on a skateboard.

She has a full set of pads for her scooter, including gloves. I have nothing. Helmet's supposed to come in today.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


A couple years ago the people who run the ASA High School Tour gave me a deck signed by some skating/bmx pros. I don't really care about the signatures but what i do care about is maybe putting some grip tape trucks and wheels on it and letting my daughter roll around on it. Does the type of deck it is matter? If so, how can I tell brandname/materials/etc.?

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


DJ Tanuki posted:

I've always wanted to learn and this thread inspired me to get out there!
I'm a pretty small woman, 5 feet tall and about 95-100 pounds. I was thinking of just borrowing my cousin's old deck to start with but I'm wondering if my height and weight would impact what kinds of gear I would use. Any advice? I'm a complete beginner but I'd like to learn how to ride around and try some tricks eventually.

As a fellow beginner let me give you some things I've had to learn (very painfully) over the last week.

1. Just stand on the loving thing inside on your carpet, or outside on the grass. Feel how loose or tight the trucks are. Watch how the board moves when you lean your body.
2. Learn what it feels like to keep your center of gravity low and, what it feels like to me, over the center of the trucks.
3. Have a helmet you can use. Beyond the obvious head protection, it's also a psychological safety net. I worried less about totally going tits-up wiping out once I got a brain bucket.
4. Once you feel like you can balance on the thing standing still, go out and ride. Feel comfortable going over slight unevenness in the pavement without feeling like you have to bail. Get to where you can really build speed with good, hard kicks so you can coast.
5. Your feet are going to hurt. That's one thing I REALLY didn't anticipate: how much a foot workout riding around would be. I say this as someone who runs and lifts weights in Vibram FiveFingers, so my feet and calves are pretty strong. Even still...

I've really gotten a lot of pleasure out of just riding around this week, and don't really feel like it's something I'll lose interest in. I just like it. *shrug* It's also a nice way to get to some of the closer places around my apartment without getting in my car.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


How much do "real" skateboarders bother keeping their decks clean? My grip tape is getting kind of grimy but it still grips so I'm meh about it. Also, wheel & truck maintenance, do I need to do much if they're still moving?

Finally, it feels like my trucks have gotten looser/more agile since I first bought the board (when it was new). Is this normal or do I need to make sure my board isn't just going to fall apart one day?

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


donJonSwan posted:

Don't loosen your trucks too much. If your hanger falls off while you're riding it'll get messy real quick.

You can find softer bushings at most good skate shops.

I didn't deliberately loosen them. Maybe I'm just getting more comfortable on the board and can lean farther/harder on the longboard so it feels like it's more agile.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Thanks, that's a grip of good information.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


lol, wow, was looking at some skating websites today and I just realized I skate goofy-footed. Am I the Chosen One?

Anyway, what are the benefits of diff longboard shapes? I've got the uhm.. I dunno what the style is called but it's a Sector 9 Gremlin deck. No tail or anything, just grooves lathed into the wood for wheel clearance. Pretty narrow. What's up with the ones that are shaped like the one on the right:



The reason I ask is because my loving feet hurt so god drat bad after about 10 or so minutes of riding. Someone mentioned a wider board would help but I just wanted to get some kind of confirmation.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


donJonSwan posted:

Echo'ing the Kracked Skull recommendation, and reiterating what was said on the last page....

Get a pair of real skate shoes.

I realize this may make me sound like a huge rear end in a top hat, and I don't intend to be, but I guess I don't understand what makes "skate shoes" so special. Is there a kind of insole or something they've got?

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


soggybagel posted:

Do your feet start hurting in response to you pushing off or just from the act of your feet riding on the board?

Feet riding the board. Like, intolerably bad. I'm riding in adidas and old-style running shoes (super flat and thin soles. onitsuka tigers). Either way it's like god drat this poo poo hurts so much it's really unpleasant.

I don't mean to sound arrogant about it, I just know a little about foot anatomy and shoes, and not sure how skating shoes would alleviate the problem. I'm all about doing away with the foot pain, believe me.

edit: Wow, I do sound like a smug gently caress about the shoes. Sorry. I know you know what you're talking about.

RobotEmpire fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 8, 2010

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Whalley posted:

How the gently caress do you powerslide :(

I've watched so many training videos and I've tried on flatland and down several smaller hills near my house, but I can't get the loving back of the board to kick out without accidentally going into a nose manual and trashing myself. I could cut ten minutes out of the commute to and from the bus stop to get to work every day if I only had a method of stopping faster than just footbraking; I'm confident enough with the speed going down these hills now, but it's suburbia and cars occasionally come out and do their thing and there's no way of preparing for that other than taking a fall.

I mean, I'm really comfortable with the speed; I've overtaken a car before down one hill on my crappy fuckin deck (with good bearings and wheels) so yeah. How the gently caress do I slide.

There are a bunch of awesome tutorials on YouTube and Vimeo.

edit: vvv wow I can't read. Sorry Whalley.

RobotEmpire fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Mar 11, 2010

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


God I can go down tiny little hills all day long. So fun. I want to find something substantial, though. Unfortunately I'm very lazy.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


I went to my first skateshop yesterday :3:

Is $60 to totally fit out a plain wooden deck pretty reasonable? Trucks, wheels, everything.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Finally found a nice park here in the South Bay that is really nice for longboard carving. If there are any other longboarding goons around here, check out Cuesta Park in Mountain View. There are a couple of short but steep hills back-to-back with each other and a really nice "half-pipe" (paved path about 10" deep between two edges of a little gully. Hard to describe but just imagine a half-pipe made out of buckling pavement surrounded by a grassy knoll) that is a lot of fun to shoot down. The whole park kind of sits on an incline so I spend ~half my time pushing slightly uphill and the entire rest of the time is zooming down. It's fun, but the more I skate it the smaller it seems to get.

If you see me riding around on my longboard say hi :)

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


I'm flying to San Diego on Sunday evening, and I'd love to take my longboard. I already have two checked bags, a carry-on and a personal item, however. I'm willing to pay a fee, but I want to make sure it doesn't get broken or lost. What's the best way to do this? I won't be able to get back down there for years so I'd like to do a little skating along the ocean and stuff. What's the best way to get it on and off the plane? Strap it to my luggage or what? If it's not possible I would be disappointed. :(

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007



Brilliant, thanks. I might disassemble and pack wheels/trucks and carryon the deck.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


I had kind of a bummer day today. I woke up late and got caught up with some work-related poo poo, and didn't wind up able to get my deck taped and kitted out like I'd intended. I was looking forward to having a longboard AND a... wait, what do you call the normal boards?

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


I wound up taking my 36" sector 9 on my United flight to San Diego. No one even blinked at it and it stowed very comfortably in the overhead bin. Totally worth it, and absolutely hassle free.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


mugsyRocko posted:

because it is pertinent to the thread title i am posting to say that skateboarding rules and i broke both of my wrists at the skatepark yesterday.

drat homey

edit: in other news, United was total shitcock bringing my board back. bitch made me check it, then another dude walked up and was like, 'oh, you're not carrying your board on?' I go, 'she's making me check it.' He rolled his eyes but bagged/tagged it anyway. Dumb whore.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


bullshit-rear end spring weather keeping me inside in NorCal

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


I guess I'm going to go get this deck I got as a gift from a vendor at work fixed up today. Local skateshop has like a 20% or 40% off sale on the last weekend of the month.

edit: Yeah, so did this. The guy said the bushings would "be a little loose" and "need some breaking in." He wasn't kidding. Wiped out a couple times just going down the street because the side-to-side action goes so deep that it actually hits the wheels and stops the board cold. How do I break these fuckers in faster?

RobotEmpire fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Apr 24, 2010

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Whew. Riding a short board is a hell of a lot more of a workout than riding a longboard. Also, getting on my 36" flat deck feels weird as gently caress after riding on this curved deck for a couple hours.

edit: Also, they need to make popping ollies much easier. :smith:

RobotEmpire fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Apr 24, 2010

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


DELETED posted:

Basically you would assemble it as normal, but you would just put 2 washers against the baseplate before you put the first bushing on.

http://www.randal.com/guides_faq.html
2 washers would go between the baseplate and bottom bushing, assuming your new Khiros are shorter than the stock Randal bottom bushing. I'd personally ditch the cup washers, but that's personal preference. Flat washers, especially with barrels, give you a more linear feel when the bushings compress. With cup washers, the more you lean, the more the bushing pushes against the cup and the more rebound it has. You don't need to shim the bushings, but it will lower your pivot angle if you don't and that'll cause you to lose turn and response.


For RobotEmpire: Bushings get softer with use, not harder. If the kingpin is properly tightened (just enough to keep everything from rattling around) and they're still too loose, then you can take a few steps. Smaller wheels will give you a little more clearance as will thicker riser pads. The other option is stiffer bushings. You can tighten the kingpin up a little more than snug, but don't go too far or you'll risk splitting the bushing and you'll lose some compression and rebound since they're already under pressure.

Dunno man, the turning definitely got tighter the more I rode it today, I can really bear down on either side of the board and it no longer touches the wheels. Not sure.

So, any tips on how to ollie? I watched a lot of videos, got the pop-jump-slide idea but actually feeling how to do it is another thing. trying it on grass for now so I don't wipe out every single time and break my wrists.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Merauder posted:

For me, and I imagine for most people even if you aren't able to swallow it when you're new... ollies are much easier when I have a decent amount of speed to help keep your balance. When you're standing still you tend to wabble back and forth a bit, whereas when you're moving you are forced into that sweet spot. I think. Makes sense to me, anyway.


oh yeah I bet a million bucks it's easier moving but right now on this normal board (as opposed to my longboard which I first started skating on) I can barely keep my balance just riding around the block lol.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Whalley posted:

Ollie into grass. Man, I've got the motion for ollies down perfectly now, rolling down a hill and popping up over the curb and into the grass on the other side.

I can't loving land on my goddamn board because I'm a big stupid retard who can't even land a boneless without the thing flicking out in front or behind if I'm on any kind of surface that lets me roll smoothly. I loving suck so hard at landing on my goddamn board. I've been practicing five to six days a week for a month now at trying to land a drat ollie what the hell is wrong with me.

Yeah I can get a couple inches off the ground if I ollie on a patch of grass. I tried popping an ollie on concrete yesterday evening and about went teeth-first into the sidewalk.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Yeah I know how you feel man, I almost got my back wheels off the deck earlier.































:smith:

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Mincher posted:

I ate poo poo on a hill today.

My hands, knees and back are torn to gently caress.

PAIN. :(

pics or it didn't happen.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


donJonSwan posted:

Kinda hard to admit it with stereotypes and such, but Skating and Yoga go together incredibly well.

agree 100%. If I hadn't been working out for two solid years doing CrossFit and building up my core and poo poo, I never would have stuck with skateboarding. So much balancing and core flexing to stay upright.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Took the 45-minute drive down to Santa Cruz last weekend and went cruising around on my longboard. So awesome having a city full of bike lanes. I thought I was literally going to die though going down one hill and not being able to stop without bailing into traffic. Finally my momentum carried me onto a wooden bridge that stopped me. Scary, but fun.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


The Extrapolator posted:

Thank you for posting this. I need to read something like this over losing it going around an alley corner and face planting into a tree. My entire face is hosed up but can't wait to get back out.

Just bought a landyachtz bamboo pinner on friday and look forward to this summer.



drat that's a really nice-looking deck

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


I think I'm going to sell my skateboard and stick to longboarding. Trying to ollie is crushing my loving spirit :(

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Mincher posted:

Don't do it! What's causing you the most grief with ollies? Is it the pop, slide or landing? Are you doing them stationary or moving?

Some pointers, based on things that I had to train myself not to do:

- Stay square and over the board, don't lean back too much so you can see your feet. This is just never going to work out.

- When you pop, do it from the ankle not the knee or whole leg. Use your legs to get you height and your foot to pop the board. When you jump, jump a little in the direction you are rolling. This will help you stay over the board.

- The slide. For ages, I didn't roll my foot as I slid it up and wondered why the hell it felt like I was spamming the board. Roll that foot as you slide! Aim to connect with the nose.

- When you ollie don't forget how important your arms and shoulders are. When I was starting out, I was all action in the legs but my torso was just kind of chilling out. When I learned to use my arms for balance in the air, everything stabilised. I recommend having your lead arm and sliding foot working in tandem, so as you start to slide, throw your arm straight out in the direction you're going. The same goes for your trailing arm. Mirror your feet.

- The landing. If you stay square and balanced while in the air and get the slide of your foot down, the tail will come up and slap your back foot. Once that happens, you're in good shape for landing. The only other advice is bend your knees on impact.

Also, stay calm and don't go for monster ollies. Get the motion down, landing tiny ollies then start to step it up. The further back your leading foot is the more height you will get (assuming you jump high enough).

If you watch any videos for pointers on tricks, look at how the skater moves all their limbs and torso, not just their feet. Especially on tricks that involve rotation.

Hope all this helps and PLEASE don't give up. :)

Edit: Oh and don't hang around just practising on flat for ages. Take it to a small curb as soon as you feel ready and keep trying to get up until you get consistent. This will improve your timing massively.

Honestly I've tried stationary a few times and I was millimeters from breaking every bone from my fingertips to my shoulders. The board just flies out from under me when I try to pop.

When I try to ollie on a grassy surface I do the motion alright but I'm kind of nervous about trying a rolling ollie.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Bucket Joneses posted:

I'd be more nervous about doing an ollie standing still because of what you've already experienced: with no forward momentum the board is just going to skate backwards when you try to kick it.

Just roll a little bit. You don't have to be flying real fast, you just need some forward motion.

You're right. Me being this retarded about physics is extra ironic because I Just taught my daughter to ride a bicycle yesterday. I had to repeatedly assure her that the faster she went the easier it would be to balance.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

I agree with previous posters that it's best to learn while rolling forward but I think sometimes it is easy to forget how challenging learning the movements of the ollie can be. Learning how it works while rolling might be a tall order at first...

If you are just trying to learn how to pop the ollie it might not be a bad idea to do it on grass or carpet so as to minimize the board shooting out. But once you get it popping you need to get on the concrete ASAP.

Yeah I try mostly on grass just to get the motion but without someone to watch and critique it's kind of hard to troubleshoot my technique. I'm gonna keep the short deck but it'll be a weekend thing. Longboard gets a daily workout.

RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Wow, the bouncing the tail off the ground thing I just got from that dude's video is pretty illuminating actually.

Also, Bucket, I feel pretty loving pro for having two skateboards.

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RobotEmpire
Dec 8, 2007


Where's a good reliable cheap online place to get a decent pair of skate shoes? I'm burning through my stock of adidas pretty quickly.

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