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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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If a dude who has never skated wanted to get into cruising around a college campus and high-quality bike paths in a fairly flat town, what kind of setup should he look at? Longboard with fat soft wheels? There's a bunch of used ones on Craigslist/Facebook marketplace/gear consignment shops around me.
I'm a decent snowboarder and I have zero interest in the kind of skateboard where the wheels are expected to come off the ground. My two year old daughter is getting into things with wheels and we spend a lot of time outside, so I'd like a leisurely way to scoot around with her too.

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Sleekly posted:

I like my longboard but only when I know I don't have to stop quickly or take sharp corners...so probably not ideal for semi crowded areas but they are great fun.

For what you mentioned I would just use a regular board. If you are tall then probably a wide ish one. That way you can twist and turn, fast or slow, and still have the option to stop quickly.

If its gonna be nice long uninterrupted cruising go a longboard. Hell go both 🙂🙃

Thanks. Maybe I will go both, it seems affordable. The Landyachtz cruiser boards seem like good options as well. Iíve got miles of nice bike trails in town, so I would enjoy taking advantage of that in a different way than I usually do. Plus I havenít been snowboarding much and miss carving.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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UFOTacoMan posted:

I would just start with something like the landyacht to get a baseline.
Different setups (trucks especially) will make for different type of feels when carving, some more noodley some too stiff. It kind of depends on the deck and the truck combo plus riser/no riser and the wheels. I have a lot of fun carving on a cruiser if the setup is right, you can do the pump carve thing and just kind of go. I find Ace trucks to be a lot of fun for cruising on flat though I prefer skating independents for regular street/transition skating.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the higher off the ground the deck is the harder it is to push long distances cause you are having to step down more to make the push, so it's important to find a balance there.

Thanks. I'm going to swing by one or two of my local skate shops today to see what they have.

Since I'm also looking at used stuff on Craigslist, is there an especially good website or youtube channel for reviews to research the ones I'm seeing? Some brands (Z Flex, Atom) have more google results from Amazon and blogs than from skate shops and magazines, which I take to be a sign to maybe avoid. Reddit answered a lot of these pretty well actually.

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jan 8, 2021

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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UFOTacoMan posted:

The shops are a good place to start, just tell them you are looking for a cruiser that is fun to ride/carve on if that is what you are after.
My experience with cruisers comes from piecing them together with what are considered standard name brand street skating trucks, wheels, bushings, bearings and decks. You can do this with a regular shaped popsicle street deck or a more shaped cruiser style deck. Or you can just buy a pre-built like the z-flex or adam, which is probably what I would recommend at this point. Then if you feel like you want to change things up you can start replacing parts to dial it in. Z-Flex is an OG deck brand but both those and Adams comes with their own brand trucks which may or may not be ideal, but those can always be replaced. Even changing the bushings in the trucks can significantly change the way a board feels with turning. "soft" bushings will be more noodley and quicker to turn being usually more fun to ride if you can dig it, hard bushings and tight trucks will make the board feel very stiff and hard to carve with.
You absolutely do not want standard street skating "hard" wheels. you want some soft ones, they make riding over cracks and rough ground much easier and more tolerable.

Longboard setups are their own animal and I can't really speak to any of that and I would recommend not going that route at this point.

If you see something on craigs list I would just make sure it's not some board brand you can get from walmart or target, other than that I wouldn't worry about reading reviews too much, just make sure if it was new it would be over $100. Cheap stuff is not good and actually dangerous for adults to use since that stuff can break. Also you can post it up here if want a critique on a setup.

Also, if you've not been active like this for a while prepare to learn that it takes some practice and time to get comfortable and to get your body in the right shape for doing it for extended periods.

Cool, thank you very much for the effort post. This is the one Z Flex I was looking at but Reddit explained why pintails are a bad way to start for what I think I want to do. Especially the ground clearance. Looks like telling the shop(s) I want to build up a cruiser deck is the way to go. The campus I work on and would commute through is pretty standard multi-surface with areas of lovely cracked sidewalk, nice newer bike path, asphalt, etc., so I'd assumed a set of fat soft wheels and adjustable trucks (maybe on the softer end?) is necessary.

Re: the fitness aspect, yeah, I take that part seriously. I'm pretty active already, and my current exercise (other than walking or biking most places I go) is freeweights with a big focus on squats and deadlifts, i.e., leg and core stability. I'm 36, so I don't just jump into new activities with the gusto I once did. I play with my daughter and her neighborhood friends (3 - 12 years old) on their variety of wheeled toys a few times a week, so I see that as a slower way to ease into this and have fun with it. If it turns out it's not for me, it should be easy to flip this stuff to a college student without much loss and I've had fun trying it out.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Thanks goons, this is all helpful and encouraging. Iím in a resurgence of sadbrains lately and I need something fun and active I can do right out my front door or as part of my daily activity anyway. Iím about to take lunch and go to the local shops.

Mongoose posted:

but I'm a bit intimidated by skate culture and not having any friends to try it out with.


Also very much this. Especially commuting on a college campus, where most of these kids aren't much more than half my age. But on the other hand, there are a shitload of wobbly kids clearly just getting into it for the first time too.

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 8, 2021

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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So my local skate shops helped. They pretty much echoed what y'all said in here.
The first one pointed me at a couple cruisers (one was a Santa Cruz Cruzer posted upthread) and their shortest longboards. They had a few Quest boards that had a price I liked but turns out they're a brand commonly sold at Walmart.

Second shop didn't have a lot in the way of cruisers, but they did have a couple Arbors I kind of liked, the Pilsner (seems pretty small for a cruiser and new rider) and a Mission (felt good underfoot, wasn't too heavy). Both under $150. They had a handful of those Powell Peralta decks which are badass.

As far as local classifieds, I found a Sector 9 Laniakea and what I think is an Arbor Mission. I think they're about the same size, maybe on the longer end of cruisers but shorter than most longboards, and with a kick tail. Any reason those aren't ideal?

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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What are some good youtube channels for nice flowy videos of people skating around interesting cities or scenery with good music? Iíve really been digging Landyachtz and Arbor Collective stuff.


Also, dude at the skate shop said come back later, weíre getting more boards in this afternoon. So I went in today and saw this:


And I think I might have to have it. I didnít see what trucks and wheels are on there, but Iím pretty sure I read 78A on the wheels so seems like what yíall are telling me I need for the most part. Google says itís a Darkroom Prisma, probably 8.75.

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jan 10, 2021

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I went to the board shop today pretty much ready to buy the arbor mission. Just to be sure I lined it up with the landyachtz dinghy and arbor pilsner, and decided it was the best feeling, and all my research said it would be the most stable and easy to learn on of the three. So I was doing my last little bit of thinking too drat much about it while the gawky teenage sales kid yammered at me when I saw this in the corner for about $25 less and a good bit more goon-approved.





Itís 8.75 and about 3Ē longer wheelbase than the dinghy and pilsner. The hardest decision was between this graphic and the light pink/purple/teal. Off to go fall over in a parking lot in the dark.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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drat this is fun

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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gently caress yeah I should have started this years ago

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I've thinking for a while about getting some cheap used decks and putting some of my own art on them. Stencils and poo poo.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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UFOTacoMan posted:

you did the right thing, have fun.

Thanks for all the help, I feel good about this board.

I had a shitload of fun last night wobbling around the parking lot of the elementary school down the street. One section has a 200-foot-long gentle slope with some marked kid drop off lanes for reference.


I started out just rolling straight down the slope under gravity and figuring out how to footbrake, turning around, and pushing back up the hill and starting over. After about an hour, I was linking up big wide turns all the way down. Remembering my snowboarding lessons really helped a bunch of stuff fall into place really quickly. Keeping weight on my left foot, pointing head and left shoulder (and sometimes hand) in the direction of the turn, looking at least 30 feet in front of me all the time, etc. I only fell off once and hooly poo poo does a board take off like a rocket when you go off backwards. I only stopped to go home when the wind got so brutal I couldn't push up hill anymore and my left leg was starting to cramp.
Back at it tonight.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Will my bushings stop squeaking so much?

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Cool, thanks. As long as it doesnít mean my trucks are too lose or something like that, it wonít bother me too much.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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gay for gacha posted:

No such thing

Also good to know. I read somewhere that if you just go ahead and learn on really loose trucks, you'll gain better balance in the long run.


HenryJLittlefinger posted:

What are some good youtube channels for nice flowy videos of people skating around interesting cities or scenery with good music? I’ve really been digging Landyachtz and Arbor Collective stuff.


Bumping this question, because I've watched every Landyachtz video now.


Having a fuckin blast just cruising around campus a couple times a day and at night. I keep trying to come up with reasons to leave the office to run an errand or something so I can get 10 minutes of riding in.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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yes very much all of this

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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That whole OJ Wheels channel is great and the cruisin series is exactly what I'm into right now.

Also diggin the Bones Brigade stuff. I wish Tommy Guerrero would do some similar videos set to his own music, it's very chill.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Herzog is so weird.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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How do I develop a good powerful kick when I'm pushing? Right now I get in at least 20-30 minutes a day and I'm working on keeping my front foot in a consistent spot, keeping my pushing foot close to the board, and trying to get a good swing in with every kick rather than just stabbing at the ground. Still, its hard to get it up in the air in front of me without starting to lose my balance. I have to get in a bunch of successive pushes to maintain speed on flat ground. Wheels are as loose as they can be without having side to side play, so I'm sure it's my novice technique. Do I just need to keep at it and let it come naturally?

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Iím pretty sure one of my nieces has those in her Vans collection.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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DrHammond posted:

Tell your niece she has impeccable taste. Still raining, still crushed.

Oh she does, when a 22 year old girl likes what youíre wearing, you did something right.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Was dude a 1.) b-boy, 2.) martial artist, or 3.) parkourist? All 3?

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I enjoyed this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtfMhSSCfOw

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Anybody got an old deck or two theyíd like to donate for an art project? Popsicle, cruiser, longboard, whatever. Beat up is fine, Iíll be stripping and completely repainting them, probably not with any intent of riding them. Iíd pay shipping.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I drat near earned the thread title last night when I attempted babyís first manual over a big crack in a parking lot and sent the board into the street and myself onto my hand and elbow, jamming up my shoulder in the process.

Still got like another hour in after and commuted today. Every week or so I make some kind of noticeable progress and it gets more and more fun.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Iím gonna build a longboard for longer distance travel on bike paths and good bike lanes, carving where I can find chill slopes, and maybe learning how do slide a little. Skateshred.com has a good selection of drop decks and a good discount right now. I was thinking a top-mounted drop down deck with a shallow-moderate drop would be stronger, easier to push long distance, and easier to learn how to slide. No crazy downhill poo poo, just noob freeride attempts. Some articles and Reddit people said drop through would be about the same or better. I donít want something totally slammed, just low enough to be stable and easy on my front knee. Would an 8-ply maple dropthough be strong enough to have a long life? I tend to baby my outdoor gear, so it wonít die from neglect or water damage, but so often it seems like dropthroughs snap right at the neck or split around the mounting bolts just from regular use after a couple years.

Seems to me a dropdown thatís not crazy would be about the same mechanics as a dropthrough, potentially with a longer life.


Edit: also I had a little session in the street last night with a couple 9 year old neighbor girls. They have a skateboard club and theyíre trying to teach me how to kickturn. It was so much fun.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Iíve been watching way too many longboard freeride videos lately and ended up taking advantage of Ehlers/Skateshredís 15% off deal thatís going on.


Gonna paint the deck, do some structural upgrades to the board, and see how much road rash I can get.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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You can put on riser pads to lift the deck. Or you can get a cruiser thatís set up a little better.

Iím also learning for the first time at 36, been at it for a few months. Iíve tried to ride my neighbor kids little boards and they are terrifyingly unstable. I wholeheartedly endorse a wide cruiser like the Santa Cruz street cruiser - itís nearly 9Ē wide, got a little bit longer wheelbase, and is very stable. I got mine complete from a local shop for $135 or so. I think it was UFOTacoMan in this thread who pushed me in that direction and it was the best advice. FWIW, Iíve never gotten wheelbite on that board, itís got flared wheelwells and 1/8Ē risers.

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Apr 1, 2021

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Iíve been having a lingering pain in the ball of my pushing foot, right where it takes the most pressure at the final thrust in each push. Iím working on smoothing out the push so itís a nice heel to toe roll rather than slapping the ground with a flat foot, but is it possibly a shoe problem as wel? Iím wearing older New Balance 515s, so thereís a bit of drop and not a ton of cushion left. I.e., probably not great skate shoes.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I tossed an older pair of Dr Schollís insoles from my motorcycle boots in today just to see what more cushion does. Theyíve got more in the heel plus the forefoot is kind of flattened, so I think these will just make it worse if anything. I do need some new insoles for my hiking boots anyway, so maybe Iíll get a couple pairs of FP. Thanks for the advice.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I built a longboard. I wanted something a little lower, easier on my knees, and extra carvy to chase the snowboard feeling a little more than my cruiser.



Ehlers deck with some improvements. Namely fiberglass reinforcement to nose and tail, backing plates to keep the trucks from breaking their mounts, and a couple leather shock pads between deck and trucks. Art is mine, stenciled on and clearcoated over.

Itís a lot of fun. Super soft bushings, so staying balanced on it when pushing takes more leg and core engagement. But because of the wheelbase it takes a lot of input to actually turn, so itís easy to be sloppy. Also itíll roll right over nasty bumps, gaps, and rocks easily, which will make you lazy pretty quick. Itís a right pain in the dick to carry around, and throws the slightest bit of moisture from the pavement up onto my shins, so Iím still riding the cruiser about half the time.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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AfricanBootyShine posted:

A friend of mine has decided to pick up longboarding and I'd like to join them. I think a cruiser would be better as I have no interest in anything involving hills or high speed. I'm mainly looking for something for commuting/getting around town... Furthest I'd go would be 3 miles on a flat path.

I've never skateboarded before, aside from a two week stint on a board my parents got for $2 at a garage sale.

To complicate things, I'm currently located in the UK, not located in a city with a skate shop, and would like to spend <£150. I'm trying to decide between these two:

https://rollersnakes.co.uk/collections/cruisers/products/globe-aperture-cruiser-complete-cult-of-freedom-portal-31

https://rollersnakes.co.uk/collections/cruisers/products/impala-latis-cruiser-complete-art-baby-girl-31

I kind of want the baby girl b/c of how pink and fun it is. I'm not expecting to get super heavy use out of it as it's pretty rainy where I am, but something fun for summer and early fall.

EDIT: I'm also thinking of spending a little more and getting one an Arbor Oso or Pilsner for a little bit more... What's the main difference between the two? Carving sounds fun, and I hear some people complaining that the Oso is too wide.

I was in your position a few months ago and went with a Santa Cruz street cruiser and it's great. I tried out the Arbor Pilsner (shorter and quite a bit narrower) and did not feel like it would be especially stable for a beginner. The shops I looked at did not have the Oso in stock, which is one that I was really interested in. On paper it's definitely a much larger platform than the pilsner. The more general advice I got in this thread was "8.5+ inches wide, cruiser wheels, either a popsicle stick deck or 80's style single kick" and I'm really glad I followed it. Since then, I've also built a dropthrough longboard because I couldn't shake the fixation on them, and it's fun too. Starting on a cruiser was definitely key though. I still ride both of them weekly.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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AfricanBootyShine posted:

I decided to go with a cruiser based on the advice you got earlier in the thread! It's good to hear that you don't regret your choice. How are you finding getting around obstacles with it?

I looked at the Santa Cruz but the markup in the UK is a bit much, so I wound up ordering an Arbor Oso, which should arrive tomorrow. I'm worried it's going to be almost too wide for me (I'm 5'7" & 150 lbs with US size 9.5 feet). But I'll see! Definitely going to take a bunch of pictures when it arrives because I'm sure I'll ruin the graphics by the end of the week.

As far as getting around obstacles, the cruiser is definitely easier. It's got a shorter turning radius and is much more responsive than my 39" longboard. I'm still not comfortable going off curbs and haven't tried to learn to ollie yet, but I'll get there this summer maybe.

The Oso is a fatty, but wheelbase isn't especially long, and it's top-mounted on traditional kingpin trucks, so I doubt it'll be too big. Maybe it'll be easier to get yourself off balance by standing too far left or right of center when pushing, but I wouldn't be too concerned about that.

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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lol this is so good

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