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I stopped following the thread as much when a bunch of games came out, and I might pick this up later but what are the impressions so far? Is melee combat in the end more complex, like some people were hinting at or is it mashing? How do the different classes play?
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Just picked up the standard edition. I thought the normal edition would come with a soundtrack or something, wasn't it supposed to? Mine came with nothing but whatever it's a game
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Oct 6, 2009 20:24
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Is there anything bad about upgrading whatever I'm using right now or should I save all my materials to upgrade the good stuff?
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Oct 9, 2009 15:26
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I just lost 3000 souls to a skeleton because I thought I could get one more kill before I went back and spent them on levels This game  I guess 3000 souls is nothing later though?
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Oct 9, 2009 17:08
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Eternalmajin posted:So after getting toasted trying to sneak up on the checkable corpses near the dragons a few times I finally get to the boss and found out that 8 firebombs aren't enough to take out Phalanx. Spent a good 15 minutes running around getting enough magic to blast him to death with Soul Arrow. Turpentine! It took me a while to figure out that boss but luckily I had a stock of Turpentine at that point and had no idea what it did. It lights your weapon on fire and makes slimes really easy to kill
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Oct 9, 2009 17:32
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Danthrax posted:Also I went into 3-1 for the first time and not five minutes into it some Cthulu-looking motherfucker stunlocked and killed me in two hits. Is that a mindflayer? 3-1 is awesome because you'll be hacking along and then all of a sudden OH poo poo BELLS and it turns into metal gear, it's the first level I'm doing after 1-1 after finding out 4-1 is basically impossible with piercing weapons. Speaking of 3-1 That phantom NPC is really hard to kill, whenever I roll away she gets a backstab on me.
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Oct 10, 2009 15:34
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KGBAgent185 posted:Only thing I've managed to figure is that the place is going towards black tendency. Why? I have no idea. Tendency shifts by itself to whatever the world average is if you play online. Since the game is loving hard I'm assuming all my worlds are shifting towards black as people die over and over
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Oct 10, 2009 20:10
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Twilly posted:I don't think this is true. World Tendency is locked to your character. If you use the Blue Stone and get brought to someone else's world, it uses the Host's WT. But your WT doesn't magically drift around, it changes based on discrete events. I dunno, that's what I read on the Wiki. Apparently it's supposed to be a tiny amount, but the average tendency of worlds online slightly affects yours, and it might be enough to push some people to the edge when they're not playing.
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Oct 10, 2009 20:25
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CharlesWillisMaddox posted:Is it possible to leave more then one blood stain? Like 2000 points over there, 200 here and 3000 back there? No (Don't die twice)
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Oct 10, 2009 20:53
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I feel like I shouldn't have started as a Thief, because I'm putting all of my points into Strength because I can't equip anything, and pumping up my magic stats because I like using magic. I can't decide agghhh
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Oct 10, 2009 21:45
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qbert posted:This morning I completed my Sticky Compound Bow+5, killed Flamelurker, killed Dragon God, and killed Tower Knight. Goddamn do I feel like a badass. I did 3-1 first, it's not too hard as long as you have some method of killing the bell guys. Fireballs and Thief's Ring are working so far, as long as you're careful. Wait until you find out about all the different ways they can kill you
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Oct 11, 2009 16:52
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chrisf posted:I got invaded by my first black phantom this morning. First trip in 2-2, swinging my giant club at some worm thing, and get backstabbed for a tiny sliver of hp lost (temple knight armor + pumped end). The battle was me hitting him with my 2h giant club for 1/3 of his health, him rolling away and healing, trying to shoot me with fireballs, and after a few minutes of that I got a club combo off for victory. The time between the invading announcement and getting backstabbed was pretty tense, but when I saw how little he was hitting me for I relaxed. Haha that sounds like my invasion except I invaded a guy in 1-2. I just got the thing and was all eager to try it out and I backstab someone and what the hell seriously that's all it did? I spent the next 3 minutes dancing around hitting him with fireballs before he just stabbed me to death. It's way harder to get kills as a black phantom Also it doesn't help that my character is weak because I started as a Thief then ended up putting all my points in magic stuff, then some in luck, then hey how about a point here and my HP and damage are really poo poo. I guess I just need better weapons
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Oct 11, 2009 21:13
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Also worth mentioning is that most weapons can be upgraded to give certain stats more priority. If you max out Dexterity, you can upgrade your weapons so they'll give greater bonuses on dexterity. You can even upgrade them to get rid of all other bonuses, give bonuses on Intelligence and regenerate mana if you're a caster and still want to stick with some weapons.
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Oct 11, 2009 23:51
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Fuuuuuck one hit away from the boss of 2-2 and I died  I could have dodged and got the hit off but I just tried hitting him one extra time to end it there. The Real Demon's Souls Starts Here So far I've beaten the bosses of 1-2, 2-1, and now fighting 2-2 with ranged weapons and spells. Are these even supposed to be doable melee? I beat a bunch of other bosses melee so far, and I can kind of see how 1-2 is doable if he has weakspots, but the bosses in world 2 look impossible for close range fighters.
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Oct 13, 2009 16:16
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Holy poo poo 2-2 is bigger than I thought. After taking out the boss I decided to wander around a bit and found entire (huge) parts of the stage I did not know existed. Also At one point I talked to a vendor, and I exited and 20 flying enemies were just sitting there staring at me. Also I had 200 arrows and spent them and all my spices just killing those big slugs. Anyone looking to upgrade weapons, do the second world. all of my weapons were +1 or +0 after beating parts of every other world, and I just went straight to a Lava Bow (+8 special bow) off of 2 areas alone. Also in my joy I lost body form by jumping off the pulley that goes to the blacksmith and dying :I This game is kind of like playing Megaman 9 for the first time, at first you're confused and scared and everything is killing you, but after you begin to figure out levels and get tools to help you in the other levels it's not so bad.
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Oct 13, 2009 18:16
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KGBAgent185 posted:The only good miracles come from Demon's Souls, and later ones at that. Heal and Evacuate are both incredibly useful, at least if you have a fragrant ring. I actually went out of my way to start 4-1 to get a Talisman and Fragrant Ring, because I kept running out of healing herbs and while it's not something that will be useful in the heat of battle it definitely lets you save those herbs for emergencies. Heal is beginning to be less useful as I use my magic for attacking and have a large stockpile of herbs lying around, but I might replace it with the spell that cures all statuses because everything else takes 2 slots and I want to keep evacuate.
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Oct 13, 2009 22:51
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How is weight and stuff determined? I can roll around because I'm wearing all Thief gear, do certain sets make you slower, certain pieces or just you add up the numbers? Also does armor have an effect on stealthiness? It seems like it should but I can't be sure.
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Oct 14, 2009 18:41
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I need to try invading some more now that I have real ways of killing people. Mainly arrows and Firestorm when they get close, let's see if this works
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Oct 14, 2009 22:19
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Hamburger Test posted:For a question of my own, does anyone know if increasing your magic stats have any effect on magic/light/cursed weapon and warding/total protection? So far I know that wearing the magical sharpness ring doesn't increase the damage bonus of light weapon. I'm pretty sure they don't, that's why there's a catalyst that has less spell power but gives you more mana, in case you just want to use more buffing spells like those. Similarly the Talisman that lets you use Magic and Miracles at the same time has really low miracle power, so it's more for a caster that wants evacuate on the side or something.
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Oct 16, 2009 23:30
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Hamburger Test posted:Well, now you brought up catalysts. There's a 5 point damage difference between silver and wooden (still 10 magic) neither ring or monk's make a difference however. Arcaeris posted:The only offensive miracle is Rage of God, and the Talisman has decent magic power, so really it's for everyone who doesn't use Rage of God a lot. Which is almost everybody. I thought it affected Heal/Recovery power but I didn't check. Edit: Is Acid Cloud ever useful or should I take the 40,000 souls instead? That's a lot of souls THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Oct 17, 2009 |
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Oct 17, 2009 00:42
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mikeraskol posted:I never did any Blue Phanton/Black Phantom stuff and now I'm Soul Level 90 with nobody to hang around with Get to 100 and the level range opens up I think HelmetCheese posted:I also recently got invaded for the first time but all KILL_FULL_TIMEE did was run in circles around me and block, he hardly even attacked me Every time I invade it's generally me spawning with a guy and 2 blue phantoms surrounding me and I'm running from them :I Also I believe Black Phantoms do less damage to players. I got to know 4-1 really well over countless deaths so I wanted to spawn in there and trigger traps, attack with the ambushes and stuff but everyone brings in phantoms there.
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Oct 17, 2009 11:21
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I kept dying to the boss of 4-1, then realized I was doing it wrong. I got him down to low health, dodged into a wall and died. On my way back, I died to those ranged guys all deciding to hit me at the same time when I never even had a problem with them and lost 25,000 souls.
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Oct 17, 2009 15:00
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I leveled Intelligence to 18 to use the Blueblood sword instead of Magic  It's ok my character is just on the way to having 18 in every stat besides endurance I guess, those 3 spell slots were really useful anyway.
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Oct 17, 2009 18:37
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Megaflare posted:Luck, according to the guide, "affects the frequency of item drops, but not the quality" and goes on to say that it doesn't actually help for rare or valuable drops and as a result isn't really worth investing in. Yeah it helps as a poor thief starting off to get herbs and spices all the time, before you get to a point where you can farm easily enough to just buy everything. That said I love this game but I am never getting the trophies for final upgrade path stuff Edit: I just accidentally got pure white tendency in world 4 after beating the boss in Soul form? I have no idea how this works THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 17, 2009 |
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Oct 17, 2009 22:37
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Are there any shortcuts through 5-2, because hoooooly poo poo. World 5 is just a really bad level except for the last boss which is pretty cool. When you're in the village, instead of going through the Fog door to the boss just keep heading on out. You'll find a Crystal Lizard and a shortcut back to the beginning. Also there are 3 or 4 giant club guys in the swamp below you guarding some valuable stuff who you can snipe safely from up there. I still feel like I'm completely missing some of the shortcuts for levels though. Like does 2-2 have a shortcut at all or do I have to risk falling to my death every time I go to farm ores
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Oct 18, 2009 02:46
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I have pure white in worlds 2, 4 and 5 completely by accident. 2 and 5 I finished My friend after seeing my play the game got it, the only way for me to play with him is to be around the same soul level right? I wanna make a Faith-based character, or someone with enough Strength and Endurance to actually equip 90% of the stuff I find. Is there any way for me to move stuff between my characters? I'm guessing complicated trading chains or something What I did find out is that as a hunter, you can easily kill everyone in the nexus without even entering the first level, which gives you around 5000 souls, a ring of herculean strength Hands of God, and nothing to spend it on charismaslover posted:5-2 is the worst loving stage so far. I hate this swamp! Do 4-1 first, get the HP regen ring and shield, equip them and you shouldn't lose HP when poisoned. THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Oct 18, 2009 |
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Oct 18, 2009 17:01
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The Wiki says you should be offline if you're suiciding to get black tendency, being online tends to mess things up. I got pure white by mistake, then suddenly lost pure white in one area without dying there. I'm not going for any items but I just like to see what spawns.
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Oct 19, 2009 00:56
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Faldoncow posted:Basically, magic can be very strong in this game. Soul Arrow is efficient and very powerful, and with a few select items and points into magic, you can push your damage so high that most enemies and bosses are basically a joke. It's probably not as effective late game for pvp since many players will have upgraded shields that are more effective at blocking magic, but it's fun at low level. Royalty is such an easy class to start with, I just made a second character to play with my friend that just got the game. Here's something that makes it really easy if people want to make a new magic character: -Get the Flame throw magic. Go to world 4-1 -Equip a thief's ring. Get close enough to a skeleton where you can lock on but they don't attack yet. Shoot fire. As they roll towards you, shoot again. There you can kill skeletons without getting hurt ever -Go to where the Crescent Falchion +1 is located. creep up to the black skeleton, fireball him, then run away and he'll give up if you have a thief's ring. Just keep doing this until he dies, then pick up the sword -Watch as everything in the game pretty much dies in a hit or two because they're all weak to magic damage. The enemies in 2-1 die in 2 hits, even a spear takes longer than that and with the stats a Royal starts out with spears aren't even an option. Also the sword's magic regen stacks with fragrant ring so you can just equip the sword to run around with but still use spells. Toastada posted:Just started doing some invading and I seem to get killed quite pathetically. Some player with three lights above their head cast a spell that just evaporated all my health. I never even got one swing of my sword. What ungodly spell is that? I invaded someone's game in 3-1, noticed he hadn't opened any doors, and started walking alongside the guards. he kept summoning people who were afraid and wouldn't leave. For maybe 10 minutes he just stayed in the first cell. Then I found out I can arrow him from a certain angle and he couldn't see me, shot him once, and he started panicking and ran out to fight me and the guards helped me kill him 
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Oct 19, 2009 14:08
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I'm on my first time through the game, is all the White and Black tendency stuff worth doing? I got the White tendency stuff in world 2 which gave me a sword I can't use and a pure stone I won't use, World 5 which gave me a neat ring I'll never use and a giant hammer I also can't use, I started World 4 which gives you a sword that drains your health but the tendency changed so I can't collect the sword I'll never use. Apparently I can do White tendency in World 1 for armor I can't use and this is kind of a recurring theme at this point. Also apparently doing some of the White Tendency stuff prevents you from doing Black Tendency stuff, so I have a crappy stone instead of the Talisman of Beasts
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Oct 19, 2009 19:13
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I guess I'll do the Black Tendency stuff then, if I can still get the Talisman. Also Colorless souls are always usefulvictrix posted:Gloom (and Fluted for that matter) both have the second highest stamina drain possible. I will when I make my 3rd character focus entirely on strength, endurance and vitality with those load increasing rings  Making new characters is too fun I need to go back to finishing the game Jadz posted:Can someone help me understand all this "tendancy" stuff? I gather that killing more demons shifts the world more towards white, and dying a lot shifts it toward black....but what about "character" tendancy? Character tendency is basically how good or evil you are. Kill a lot of NPCs and you'll become black. World Tendency is how difficult that world is. Black means harder monsters, more souls, better drops. White is the opposite. If a world is pure white (actually closer to Pink, like you said) or pure black, you get special events unlocked. It shifts towards white if you kill bosses, towards black if you die in body form. There's more but this is the simple version. THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Oct 19, 2009 |
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Oct 19, 2009 20:55
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MMD3 posted:on the topic of backstabbing... are there like a ton of weapons you can't do it on? or do I just have the angle wrong or something? You should be close, weapon equipped in right hand, and press R1. Maybe that's why? You can definitely backstab with a lot of weapons, I do it in the middle of fighting all the time. It doesn't work with ranged weapons and whacking people with dual handed shields but otherwise it should. They're probably turning around as you approach, thief ring should help if you're trying to sneak up.
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Oct 19, 2009 23:50
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Jadz posted:Oh no, I understand all that now, and I did find the ring, I was just curious. If I *wanted* to get back into body form, can I help someone else kill a boss I've already done? I thought this was the only way to do it lol Can you kill bosses you haven't killed yet in your game? Does it count as you killing them or do you have to go through and do it again
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Oct 20, 2009 01:24
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Project Oni posted:drat, what a shame. I was going to take a level 1 royal all the way up to level 50 in less than 5 minutes, putting every single point into magic and intelligence. Already went through with a melee character, so it's magic time. You can't kill Maiden in Black You can still rescue Freke, Urbain and Yuria to learn magic from You can use Ed in 2-1 as your blacksmith No stockpile though yeah :I equip that ring he drops I guess
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Oct 20, 2009 18:44
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Aardark posted:I just invaded some guy in 1-4 and helped him kill the black phantom before the boss. I tried attacking the player first, but he started running away and defending without fighting me, and I began feeling sorry for him. I'm not good at being an rear end in a top hat. It's not that assholish, I invaded someone's game and had a really really close battle. Eventually he kills me and I sent him a message saying nice work and he thanked me and said I did well too 
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Oct 20, 2009 21:52
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I've been going around upgrading stuff for New Game +, this was known already but Morion Blade + Clever Rat's ring is amazing If you're below 30%, the effects of both stack so that all your attacks do more than double damage. It depends, some attacks go from 60-300, some go from 250-600. You can wield Morion Blade in your left hand, so you can have a superpowered bow or a meat cleaver doing thousands per hit. You don't even have to be able to wield it, just keep it there so you can do this on magic characters + combine it with ring of magical sharpness and kill bosses in seconds. If you want to lower your health, you can just equip Magic Sword Makoto, which drains your 0.5% health per second or something and then switch it out for your weapon. This also means you die in one hit though so it's not completely broken  also my backpack is full of things I carry for different situations now, there are 2/3 shields, long sword, crescent sword, meat cleaver, lava bow and white bow in case I need more range, morion's blade and makoto for the health drainAlso while typing this message a black phantom invaded and pushed me off the edge motherfucker
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Oct 21, 2009 12:31
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Yeah this is my first character and he basically has 18 in every stat at this point, at some points of the game I got through with magic, some my bow was my best weapon, and some of them whatever melee weapon I just found so I've gotten use out of all my stats. I did get the better weapons, my inventory was worse before. Melee: I have Blueblood Sword for normal fighting and Meat Cleaver for stuff like Black Phantoms and other enemies that are easier to knockdown Magic: I have a talisman, catalyst and a sword that increases mana regen by a lot Shields: I have Adjudicator if I'm 2 handing a bow or meat cleaver for the regen, Dark Silver if I'm using it with blueblood for the parrying and full block Bows: Lava Bow which consistently does more damage than White Bow, but White Bow is easier to sneak up on things with, and then around 200 arrows Accessories: Makoto and Morion's Blade, all the rings Yeah before I had piercing, blunt, magical, fire damage all lined up for different enemies. I had 10 vitality for most of the game and leveled it up because I needed to carry more stuff (although it made me realize that having 10 vitality is a really bad idea anyway)
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Oct 21, 2009 13:37
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Where the hell is the primordial demon in 4-2 It says the staircase with the breakable entrance next to the first reaper but I can't find it there.
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Oct 21, 2009 16:17
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Hamburger Test posted:You should exit out to a ledge with a black skeleton, there's a narrow path to your left. Oh where the White Bow is? I assumed it would be in the actual staircase for some reason and didn't want to bother fighting past a black skeleton Thanks! Got the colorless soul.
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Oct 21, 2009 16:27
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YorexTheMad posted:Ok, you're in the first Reaper room, looking towards the Reaper's altar. Someone actually answered already but that's a much better answer than what's in the Wiki that thing needs editing
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Oct 21, 2009 16:52
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How exactly does New Game+ work? Can I beat the game, then get my character to black tendency, then do the mephisto quests, then start a new game? I'm on a colorless souls binge
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Oct 21, 2009 17:42
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