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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I just want to say Audible is great not only for fiction but nonfiction, too. I loving found A Companion To Hegel on there. I need all the help I can get with Hegel, too. I'll still probably need to buy print books but I can't see well so audiobooks are best for me.

And Frank Muller was fantastic. I've listened to so many books by him.

In fact, a lot of my favorite narrators have passed away, like David Case. His narration and Hugo's writing made Les Miserables one of the best books I've ever experienced.

Although recently my most amazing vocal performance goes to Steven Weber's reading Stephen King's IT. The book is great on its own but man, Weber injected so much life into it. I first "read" the book months ago and it still really stays with me. I might read it again, even though it's quite long and I have other literature I want to get into.

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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



The only thing I've heard read by him is The Cobra series by Timothy Zahn. I had no idea Zahn did anything besides Thrawn in SW EU and decided to look into those when I found out. Dunno about the books but the narrator was good.

MeatwadIsGod posted:

:lol: I didn't know he narrated porn. I have Legacy of Ashes, The Bloody White Baron, and The Life of Greece as narrated by him. His voice is great for history.

I don't usually "follow" narrators but one of the few I do was named David Case. I first heard him narrate Les Mis and after that I looked up a bunch of his stuff on Audible. He seemed to be a go-to guy for classic literature, history or, in the case of Hugo's novels, both.

I've read a lot of reviews online about people who can't stand him but I loved his way of reading.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



So I just now saw that they finally got to releasing new audiobooks of several of Michael Crichton's works. The only versions I ever had of stuff like The Andromeda Strain or Sphere was from Library for the Blind. \

In any event, it's cool to hear Scott Brick reading Sphere. I'll have to look into buying that. But yeah, I'm several months late to this revelation but it's cool to see they have pretty much every novel he ever wrote on Audible now. I really wanted to read his autobiography, "Travels" so I am gonna scoop that one up when I can.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



So I have a sort of general request.

I like when authors read their own books, particularly their autobiographies. Stephen King did it, Christopher Hitchens did it, Ayaan Hirsi Ali did it, etc..

Can anyone recommend me any good audiobooks - fiction or nonfiction - read by the author?

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



This is an extremely odd question but I have to ask somebody because I sure as hell don't know.

Is getting somebody to record an audiobook for personal use illegal? I'm only asking because I'm legally blind and there's just no way to really get through a dense text with my visual impairment. I have no interest in sharing it with anybody, just having it for myself.

The book in question is a philosophical text called Being and Time by Martin Heidegger. It's something I'm working up to, I'm not so arrogant as to think I could handle it now but I figured I might as well ask this question now because why not. I would als oneed a recording because I'm certain I'll need to go over passages and stuff

I found one translation that will be up in the public domain the start of 2023 and I don't expect to be dead in five years so I guess I could theoretically wait and then go beg some altruistic fool on LibriVox to record it for me.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



ShinsoBEAM! posted:

The amazon fire tablets have passable TTS on kindle which has worked for me in a pinch.

Yeah I was thinking of trying that or maybe even some other TTS I could buy. The problem is the book in question was written in German and has a lot of Philosophy Terms (TM) so I wasn't sure if an automated thing could handle it.

It's a possibility I could look into though. Thanks for telling me the Kindle TTS is actually good, I wasn't sure.



bengy81 posted:

I am not a lawyer and all that jazz, but it is technically illegal to redesign books, unless it is in the public domain. Having said that, when I was a freshman in college I volunteered at the student accessibility center reading textbooks to tape for visually impaired students, and as far as I know we never got our dicks slapped for it. Also, what are the odds of somebody finding out that you are doing it if it is just for personal use?

True, I'd just have to find somebody willing to do it. Thanks.

Peas and Rice posted:

Apropos of nothing else, good luck reading Being and Time. It was the capstone of my college philosophy studies and I still never made it all the way through. No snark intended - it's super-dense and will make you think for YEARS.

Thank you. I've been thoroughly warned. I'm actually a philosophy amateur doing self-study. I'm starting with Plato and gonna just work my forward with what sounds interesting. But the Existentialists just have a lot of language and ideas that really speak to me, as cliche as that sounds. I'm 29 and all my adult life I've looked to religion and politics for some sort of meaning to my life, trying to drown out this anxiety that a guy in Denmark was also feeling 180 years ago. Being and Time is a goal of mine because the ideas I've heard about it sound absolutely fascinating but it's a realistic goal I'm going to build up as best as I can. That includes reading Heidegger's lectures which, much like Hegel's, are quite a bit more comprehensible, at least in terms of the language.

Philosophy has this reputation as being the mental masturbation of pseudo-intellectuals but the Stoics were offering helpful tips on controlling anger and how it was merely a sign of toxic masculinity 2000 years ago. It's actually helping me out a lot in real life. Philosophy is really awesome.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Feb 2, 2018

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



mrfart posted:

I posted this already couple of weeks ago, but I found out I'm entitled to use the database of the Flemish audio book collection for the blind for free, because of my problems with dyslexia.
Doesn't the US have something similar? Or is that all a bit too 'socialist'.
My mom has been reading books for them for decades now.
And very often it's a book that has been requested by somebody. Usually something academic that gives her headaches about pronunciations of scientific terms.

Also, I thought you were allowed to make a copy for personal use. Or is that only with software?

There is actually a Library for the Blind here in the US. I haven't used it in nearly ten years, ever since I graduated high school,. and I never had to request an audiobook be made by them. I have no idea what the process is now you mention it. That is an interesting avenue I can look into. Thank you for the suggestion.

As for personal use audiobooks, I had no idea, hence why I was asking. I could try asking some place like the subreddit on audiobooks, somebody there might know.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



fordan posted:

Adapting books for the visually impaired by nonprofits is one of the allowed exemptions under copyright law.


Looks like the National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped at least sort of has it:

Basic writings from Being and time (1927) to The task of thinking (1964) [sound recording] / Martin Heidegger ; edited, with general introd. and introductions to each selection by David Farrell Krell.

Anthology comprises six complete essays, two abridged pieces, and two excerpts from larger works. Covers a period of nearly forty years and provides the reader with a view of Heidegger’s thought on history, the fine arts, the natural sciences, and the theory of knowledge.

The link doesn't work for me but I trust you. This is a very unexpected and awesome discovery I never even dared to hope for. Assuming this is the same Basic Writings I've seen recommended on a few places, this collection is the recommended way for anyone interested in Heidegger to start reading him because the work here is very accessible (compared to Being and Time) and helps familiarize you with his ideas. Or so I've been told.

Thank you so much for this. I just gotta re-sign up with the library but that isn't a real problem if I can get motivated and go see an eye doctor and have them fill out the paperwork.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



http://www.learningally.org/BookDetails/BookID/FS563

I cannot express to you all how happy I am right now. At present I'm far from Heidegger, I still need to get through some Kant and that was what I was Googling for when I found this website. Real people reading not only primary philosophy texts but secondary sources. My search for Heidegger fulfilled my wildest dreams. Not only is "Being and Time" there, but also his Nietzsche lectures, his Kant book, the "Basic Writings" collection of essays and, to top it all off, the Cambridge Companion to Heidegger which can help explain his thought to dumb people like me.

And searching some other names I'm interested in, I see plenty of other philosophers have their work on here as well as some supplementary material for them as well. They even have Charles Taylor's Hegel book. A major modern philosopher offering explanation and insight for one of the most important but loving impossible to understand philosophers in history.

This is loving amazing. It be even more amazing if I had the money to join right now but ya know, the mere fact this site exists and all those audiobooks exist is all that I really need for now. It totally made my day or week or life, really.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Feb 8, 2018

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I am not a Marxist and I may never be a Marxist (never say never) but as a fan of philosophy and history, I am very glad that Ukemi Audiobooks exists. If you do not know they read Free Domain philosophical works and they recently completed Marx's Capital. Capital, for the longest time, only had Volume 1 done by somebody on LibriVox I think so them finally completing this seminal work is a great boon for people like myself who both love philosophy and can't see very well.
https://www.audible.com/search?keywords=marx+capital&ref=a_hp_t1_header_search

More relevant to my own interests though, they made audiobook versions of all of Plato's Dialogues as well as Plotinus' Enneads and they are currently working on Plutarch's Moralia. They got back to me and said Volume 2 is coming this fall or winter but they never specified if Volume 3 (I assume there will be 3 volumes) will be happening. I hope so.

That all being said...the narrator for the Dialogues is great but nobody can ever trump Ray Childs. Ray Childs is the eternal voice of Plato to me.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Platos-A...81XGZX8ESV95MND

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Reading philosophy really got me in the mood for some Homer and I was really uncertain which version to get.

Then I found the one read by goddam Ian McKellen.

Does anybody have any other suggestions like which Iliad to read? Translation seems to be abig thing for people.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Jun 4, 2019

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Mycroft Holmes posted:

are there any decent post-apocalypse books on audible? all they have looks like trash.

I guess it's kind of old now but Stephen King's The Stand?

Except, listening to it, I don 't like the version on Audible. Narrator is not to my taste.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Personally I think the price of audiobooks on Audible is such that it's a waste of money to buy any of them. Just use Credits.

Granted, I mainly listen to history and philosophy books but even the Warhammer 40K books I was getting into are all $20. That means it would cost at least $60 for 3 books. Better to buy 3 Credits for $33 and get those 3 40K books.

I wonder if they jack up the audiobook price so much so you buy credits. I hope the creators I like don't lose out on money from the fact I have to use Credits for everything.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



sI just wanna give a shoutout to Ukemi Audiobooks.

A while ago now I was wondering about how to get Martin Heidegger's Being and Time in audiobook format. Well...
https://www.audible.com/pd/Being-an...c3_lProduct_1_1

I also have a strong interest in Confucianism and was stunned to see this
https://www.audible.com/pd/Mengzi-M...c3_lProduct_1_1

Read by the translator and scholar himself.

It's all very cool and good if you like philosophy and trying to be smart as I am trying to do.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I'm always pleasantly surprised when I find good secondary philosophical literature in audiobook form. It's one thing to find an audiobook of say, Descartes' Meditations, but to find a good collection of essays on Descartes in audio form?

https://www.audible.com/pd/A-Companion-to-Descartes-Audiobook/B00CBG1104

Or, say, to find Goethe's Faust in audio but also a whole philosophical biography of Goethe?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HDSU0FQ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

But the real shock for me just now was this:
Baumgarten and Kant on Metaphysics


I was actually depressed because it was like $70 via Kindle and I could not find it ...anywhere else in text format. But then my Google search turns up it on Audible and I'm like "this is awesome."

Bought that poo poo in a hurry. I always buy stuff like this to show there is at least some interest and hopefully encourage more audiobooks made of these kinds of secondary sources which are potentially more crucial than the main works.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



CrazySalamander posted:

The reviews on that one are great, lol.



Please report back and tell us if these are valid.

E: That metaphysics book seems to be on kindle for $16 right now if you want text.

Yeah I'm obviously gonna try to form my own opinion but those reviews did make me uncertain about purchasing it. I was like "great, they give us a collection of Descartes essays and they suck."

But that "Companion" is referenced on multiple entries for Descartes on the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy which is a very respected scholarly resource that actual academics use a lot. And the guy the reviews called out, John Carriero, has written a pretty respected book on Descartes' Meditations So I'm leaning more in trusting them than random Audible reviews.


Also on Kindle the Metaphysics book still says it's $68.40 for me. But it's fine, I prefer audiobooks. I have terrible eyesight and using TTS speech is my only choice most of the time. Having an actual reader is really nice.

And I almost forgot, let me rep another book:
Why We Are Restless: On the Modern Quest for Contentment. It's a short analysis of Montaigne, Pascal, Rousseau and Tocqueville. It touches on a topic very near and dear to my heart: French Philosophy and also the peculiarly modern condition in which we all live.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 13:29 on May 4, 2021

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



There's a lot of new audiobooks made about famous philosophers. Mainly of the A Very Short Introduction series but it's still cool. Some of the top scholars of each thinker writes these books so even a brief book is still worthwhile.
https://www.audible.com/search?node...6223H8WMZNC76EB

Also a lot of pop junk or weird Christian fundy poo poo, but easy enough to ignore that.

The book on evil really interests me
https://www.audible.com/pd/Evil-in-...NDABM5DQHC1M8Z8

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



So I posted this in the Buddhist thread but that is mainly occupied by Buddhists so figured I'd post it here in case anyone is just interested and curious:

So I was very excited to find this was just put up on Audible:
The Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way Nagarjuna's Mulamadhyamakakarika

There is also this channel on YT where a guy with a very nice voice reads a lot of differnt Buddhist material. I found him while looking for readings of Pure Land amterial like sutras or Shinran's works
https://www.youtube.com/c/acalaacala/playlists

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



my kinda ape posted:

Anybody have a bunch of good recommendations you can throw at me? Due to Reasons I have 14 credits I have to spend by July and I figure I better just use them now before I forget until the last minute. I read/listen to a lot of history, sci-fi, and fantasy stuff but I'm open to pretty much anything. Mysteries/detective stuff is cool for instance.

Brandon Sanderson is very popular and, just as importantly, his audiobooks are phenomenal. Most of them ae read by Michael Kramer, although for his Stormlight Archive series, Kate Reading joins to voice the female cast.

I recommend trying his The Final Empire. It's where I started and fell in love, and I think it's possibly my favorite novel of his. It also works as a standalone book, despite being part of a huge series.

I'm in a huge Stephen King mood lately so I have to suggest IT, The Shining, and Under the Dome, which I just read for the first time. Like Sanderson's stuff, these aren't just good books, they're amazingly well voice-acted. I can't imagine any of the stories, especially IT and The Shining, without their narrators. So even if you've read them, maybe try the audiobooks. Under the Dome is probably less well known than those first two but it's extremely good.

I was thinking history and scifi and then it hit me.... Worldwar by Harry Turtledove. He's not the best author, even I can see that. Insanely repetitive. But I adore this premise - aliens invade during WW2! And the characters aren't bad, especially the alien characters.

These are the ones off the top of my head. I mostly read nonfiction. Hope at least some of these are new to you and to your liking.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Kinda grateful true crime is so popular, even though it puzzles me. I wrote about this earlier today in another thread but when it comes to crime, people seem to prefer two things: mobsters and serial killers. Hard to think of two things more opposed and thus they should intrigue us for entirely different reasons.

In any event, true crime's popularity means they get lots of audiobooks, and some of those audiobooks aer made from books worth learning from.

The most recommended quality Ted Bundy book I could find was called Ted Bundy: The Only Living Witness and it had an audiobook...that wasn't available in thE US. Luckily found a way around that. Change your credit card address to UK if you want it and use a Credit.

Why We Love Serial Killers. Glad I found this book. Not only does it touch on my ponderings about the macabre allure of this sorta thing, it's read by fuckin' Keith Szarabajka.


On the absolute flipside, I don't think I've ever been so disappointed upon finding a book I wanted was in audiobook form:
Serial Murderers and Their Victims. Apparently this is one of the most important books on the topic...and the narrator is the worst reader of all time. I very rarely have a problem with audiobook readers, even if they aren't great. But this person is actively bad and un-listenable.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



So my current interest is learning about the radical movements of the 60s and 70s, zeroing in on feminism in particular.

I'm always happy to find anything like this on Audible so I figured I'd share with you all.
Sexual Politics By: Kate Millett
Of Woman Born Motherhood as Experience and Institution By: Adrienne Rich
Daring to Be Bad, Thirtieth Anniversary Edition Radical Feminism in America, 1967-1975 By: Alice Echols
The Creation of Patriarchy By: Gerda Lerner
The Romance of American Communism By: Vivian Gornick (she wrote the original published introduction to the S.C.U.,M. Manifesto so was fascinating to find she had an audiobook here)

And if you have any suggestions, I'm happy to snatch those up, too.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Apr 14, 2023

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Audible has recently added some audiobook adaptations of "Pop Culture and Philosophy." I'm very happy about this since I love pop culture and philosophy. Also I should add these aren't hack jobs. These are from reputable publishers like Blackwell.

Avatar: The Last Airbender and Philosophy - A series I've always heard a lot about but know nothing about. I might give it a try so I can get this.

The Lord of the Rings and Philosophy: One Book to Rule Them All

Star Wars and Philosophy Strikes Back

I'm a big proponent of pop culture as a vital step in making more people interested in philosophy so this is awesome, IMO.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Thinking a lot more about the awesome video game Red Dead Redemption 2, figured I should finally pick up a couple history books on the plight of Native Americans. I have the "general history" probably most every American knows but I never really read up on anything.

But my eyesight sucks so I prefer audiobooks if at all possible. If anyone has any suggestions of audiobooks on Native American history,
I would welcome them.

Right now I got
Unworthy Republic
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



escape artist posted:

Frank Mueller is a high ranking member of the King's Court.

Who else is there?

I'm gonna say it, I prefer Simon Vance's version of Interview with the Vampire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo6T0J1wxFA

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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Arthur Morgan Is Your American History Teacher in New Red Dead Redemption Audiobook

quote:

Roger Clark, who plays Arthur Morgan in Red Dead Redemption 2, is set to narrate an audiobook that looks at American history through the lens of Rockstar’s Red Dead Redemption games.

Clark narrates historian Tore Olsson’s ‘Red Dead’s History’ in character as Arthur Morgan, protagonist of Rockstar’s critically acclaimed open-world epic.

Red Dead’s History explores the “wildly dramatic and gritty world” of America from 1870 to 1920. 2010’s Red Dead Redemption and its prequel, 2018’s Red Dead Redemption 2, set in 1911 and 1899 respectively, were praised for their authentic portrayal of life during the decline of the American frontier. In the book, Olsson digs into the detail presented in the games and adds context from real-world American history.

Here’s the official blurb:

“Weaving together the fictional characters and plot of the Red Dead Redemption games with real-life historical vignettes, Olsson reveals that the action-packed violence of the Red Dead universe isn’t just spawned from Hollywood westerns but rooted in real sociopolitical issues from turn-of-the-century America.”

IGN spoke with college history professor Tore Olsson, who as well as writing books teaches the world’s first Red Dead Redemption history class at the University of Tennessee, to discuss the work. (Check out the interview in full for a fascinating look into the Red Dead Redemption games and their historical "thoughtfulness", as Olsson puts it.) Here's a snippet:

Audible Pre-Order. I'm doing it right now.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Red-Deads-History-Audiobook/B0CKM6FB83

Sorry I'm kinda obsessed with this game and this is an entirely unexpected blessing. I'm shouting to the rooftops for any other fans.

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