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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I'm going for a stroll this week and my Apple Watch beeps to tell me I'm on a 20:17 mile pace and my first thought is, 'gently caress I'm not surviving this Long Walk'.

Inspector 34 posted:

Yeah I maybe came across a little harsher than I intended. I was mostly surprised a person ended up with UTD when there are so, so many iconic books to choose from. Just kinda weird.

Picking Under the Dome as your first King book is like picking Go Set a Watchman as your first Harper Lee book. I'm not saying it's a bad book, but you're not doing yourself any favors. I'm personally a fan of Cujo or Carrie as babby's first King. But I haven't read Cujo in a long while so maybe it hasn't held up.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
The Talisman was awesome and inspired my love now for cold off-season beaches.

But I’m changing my vote from Cujo to The Dead Zone. That was a creepy book and the movie was surprisingly good too for an early 1980’s King movie.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
No one ever says their first King book was Tommyknockers because if you read Tommyknockers first you never read another King book.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

ConfusedUs posted:

It was actually my first King book. Borrowed it from my uncle.

Overwatch Porn posted:

Mine was Tommyknockers actually and I loved it

Man, who would have thought. I read Tommyknockers at the height of my high school King fanboy period and it just slammed the brakes on that. It was a decade before I picked up another one of his books.

But my biggest Stephen King disappointment ever was Shawshank Redemption. It was really boring compared to the movie.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

syscall girl posted:

I read it during puberty and iirc found one of the sex parts hot :wtc:

E: Tommyknockers I mean

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Dissapointed Owl posted:

By the author of The Dark Half? That’s what you’re going with, book cover?

I thought by that point King was popular enough that you didn't need to reference his prior works. I believe IT may have broken some records for presales on a 1st printing and that cover would be the 2nd or 3rd printing.

But yeah,"The Dark Half"? Really?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

The Talisman would be so easily destroyed in adaptation. Wolf alone is such a fragile, perfect character, and I truly believe he would be focus grouped into an awful suggestion of the character we know.

Chris Pratt as Wolf.

But fat Chris Pratt, not fit one.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Canuckistan posted:

So it's a zombie movie now? Cool. Zombies are fresh and exciting.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
The Talisman is one of my favorite King books. How much of that is King and how much of that is Straub I don't know.

I've never had any motivation to seek out any other Straub books and I didn't care much for Black House. It sounds that was a good decision.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Carrie is one of those movies that fits the time period so well. 70's teenager movies seemed to perfectly hit their mark for creating a sense of aimless gloom with plenty of melancholy. By the time it got to the 80's and 90's the movies had too many happy endings tacked on.

Also the school receptionist lady in Ferris Bueller is one of the bad girls in the beginning shower scene.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I just bought the audiobook, hopefully it's not as bad as every sex scene in 11/22/63 was. It didn't help that the narrator tried talking like a lady. That was so bad.

Or that last Dark Tower book when Eddie died and holy loving poo poo it took FOREVER for him to finally shut up and die. When King is on the mark there's no better popular writer. Then suddenly it's like he found an old bag of cocaine behind the couch. Or maybe that's when he's a good writer and he's bad when he can't find any drugs.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Are they bouncing back and forth on the timeline like the book? The first movie was totally linear so I didn’t know whether they’d keep with that or not.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Maybe James McAvoy is the one British actor who can't do an American accent?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I just finished the IT audiobook a few months back and yes, he’s a writer, his wife is British, and they’re making a film in England when he gets the call.

I read IT back when it first came out so I’d completely forgotten about the two side plots with the Losers’ spouses. Easily the weakest parts of the book. I hope the movie doesn’t waste a lot of time on them

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
None of those plots were integral to the plot, but I guess they fleshed out Beverly and Bill’s characters.

Sticking them in the movie would just slow it down. We want another IT, not another Dark Tower.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
We just had a billion dollar franchise about kids killing each other in a dystopian future.

The only question is whether the Long Walk will be 3 movies or if they can squeeze a fourth out of it.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Joke's on the tick when he starts sucking out eyeball goo instead of blood.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

BiggerBoat posted:

I don't see how. Dr Sleep was OK but all the vampire stuff was just awful and, worse, took me out of the idea that I was reading a Shining sequel.

The Shining has a lot of untapped potential. Let's make a sequel that delves into deeper detail about the Shine.

No, just add vampires. And RV's.

I'm pretty sure those were primary thought processes in King's head.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I don't even remember a top hat. Don't try to jog my memory, it's obvious I forgot it as a self defense mechanism.

The trailer is taking cues from the movie version of the Shining. Maybe it'll differ just enough from the book to toss out any bad parts.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
1970’s King could do no wrong. His later stuff is good, but always seemed a compromise between taunt storytelling and at least one questionable at best plot choice. I guess cocaine gives you laser focus.

I’d pick something short and sweet. Carrie. Then Salem’s Lot. Followed by the Shining. Then blow the doors off with the Stand extended edition.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I read the Talisman twice and listened to the audio book. It’s great and I like it as much now as I did when I was 15.

I struggled to get through Black House.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Misery is terrifying because it could really happen.

Hobbling. :shudder:

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
It can’t be any worse than a child gang bang.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Christine was one of my first King books so it'll always have a spot in my heart, but I never quite got over how they used exposition to describe the last 3 (fairly important) deaths. You do that offscreen in a movie to save money or time, but that doesn't make sense in a book. It made the ending very anti-climatic. "You have defeated the evil car and BTW here are a list of characters you didn't know were now dead."

oldpainless posted:

I enjoyed Talisman when I was 18 or so but I’ve tried three times to get through black house and still haven’t succeeded

More like old beamless.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Skratchez posted:

I loved the Talisman and then I listened to that Loser's Club podcast and it really took all the fun out of my memories of it.

I listened to that Loser’s Club podcast on The Tailsman and they didn’t seem to rag on it too bad. They hated Richard, but everyone hated Richard.

Action Serious posted:

Man, I’m re-listening to the audiobook for 11/22/63 for the first time in a few years and some of it is way worse than I remembered. Overall I quite liked the book the first time but some of it really feels like it’s in here just to justify the research (prices of everything, detailing swing dancing). Also most of the stuff with the love interest is pretty cringe worthy. Maybe I just deleted the Jodie, Texas chunk from my memory because the school plays and wonders of being a teacher stuff are so boring.

The narrator does lady voices terribly and sex scenes even worse. I’d be listening to it and the build up to yet another sex scene would be like a train barreling down the tracks straight for me. It’s not like there are that many sex scenes, but all of them are terrible.

If you want a good King narrator, look for the Frank Muller audiobooks. He used to do all of King’s stuff until he hit his head in a motorcycle accident around 2002. If you haven’t listened to one of his books then you’re in for a treat.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Brocktoon posted:

Just looked this podcast up, since I'm interested in discussions of King, but is it interesting enough to warrant 2.5-3.5 hour episodes?

I dunno. I downloaded a bunch of episodes and I’m really not looking forward to any of them now.

They break it up with sections on various King tropes so it’s not an open ended stream of consciousness mess for 3 hours, but at the same time podcasts shouldn’t be 3 hours long. Even if it’s a really good 3 hours, some editing would make it an absolutely fantastic hour and a half.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Wait, are they swapping out Bill's wife for a kid instead?

I'm learning to hate the fun house hall of mirrors scene that's now showing up in tons of thrillers.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I wish Walter used his speech power to make me forget seeing the Dark Tower.

The worst part is you got to see a small hint of how the movie could've worked when Roland is in NYC. But then they go back to his world and everything gets boring.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Listening to Shawshank on audiobook in a drive thru with the window open and figured how bad could it get. I won’t pause it.

10 seconds later King uses the N word in a book based in Maine without any Black people.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

oldpainless posted:

Red is black

More like oldcreativelibertiesinthedapation.

Red is White in the book. Maybe he's Black Irish?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Cycle of the Werewolf was good. It had illustrations similar to the Dark Tower books, which was a novelty for King back then.

It was made into the movie Silver Bullet starring Gary Busey. If you need to ask whether a 1980's movie starring Gary Busey was good or bad the answer is yes.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

April posted:

Somewhat off-topic but has anyone here read Wanderers by Chuck Wendig? It gave me big-time Stand vibes - an 800 page book about the end of the world & a group having to get to Colorado. But it felt far more disciplined, if that makes any sense, and the ending did not involve any "hand of god" ridiculousness.

No, but I just looked it up and holy poo poo that's a 32 hour audiobook.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Sign of the times that having Ritchie be a successful DJ isn't believable anymore because who listens to radio.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

oldpainless posted:

Ok so in It chapter 2 richie is gay without a doubt right? Did he secretly love Eddie as more than a friend?

Yeah, I thought they handled that alright. They managed to make it as clear as needed without feeling too hammy or forced.

I haven't seen the original since its release, so maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but were the flashbacks all new footage? I don't remember several parts from the first movie like Bev's creepy dad with the perfume, Stan's spider caps, and the details behind Mike's fire. Even the bottle cutting scene appeared to include new footage.

It was a little ironic that the running joke about Bill writing lovely endings was in a movie with a disappointing conclusion. The part where they start to forget again always got me in the feels.This ending felt like a cop-out. Also, no destroyed Derry.

I took my 14 year old, who saw the original movie probably 5 times. After the movie started she leaned over and asked which one the Black guy was. There's literally just one Black kid.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

oldpainless posted:

Yes they were all new

That's pretty neat then. I know the first one was a surprise hit, but I had a slight concern they didn't think ahead and we were going to end up with 1989 scenes full of actors with 2 extra years of puberty to try and hide.

Was there any resolution with the Georgie stand-in who got nabbed in the hall of mirrors? Or was he just the last kid victim? Because Bill forgot about that kid fast..

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I was a little surprised to see Shawshank mentioned in Apt Pupil. Just laundering money for Nazis like nobodies business.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
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Grimey Drawer
Twitter can be pretty horrifying.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Franchescanado posted:

Nathan Ballingrud, Iain Reid, Nick Cutter, Joey Comeau, Kathe Koja, Victor LaValle, Jeff Strand, Dan Simmons, Paul Tremblay,

Some lesser-known greats: Michael McDowell, Thomas Ligotti, Joe R. Lansdale,

There's a whole non-Stephen King horror thread

I only know Lansdale from his Hap & Leonard series. What is a good horror book of his?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
IT and The Stand had fine endings. Salem's Lot, Christine, Cujo...all good resolutions. The Shining, whoohoo that was a good ending. King nerfing his endings appears to be a relatively recent thing. His 70's stuff is great and his 80's material holds up, but when you get into the 90's ugggh.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I liked the Dark Tower ending.

I didn’t like that it allowed the Dark Tower movie to be made.

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