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The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

And cue cricket chirps..


No idea about your fish-eye.
You could probably hit up B&H and see what's recommended for your camera model.

To keep the conversation going, here's a link to my final project for my school's tv/film program:

http://www.vimeo.com/4792004

If you want, I'd like to hear anyone's thoughts after viewing, good or bad. Either way, enjoy.

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The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

So... let's keep it moving, shall we?

What has everyone been working on lately?

For one of those online video production companies that only hire you if you own your own gear, I shot for a popular men's magazines: "Hometown Hotties" yesterday. Only got hassled by the cops a little. I used a friend's JVC GY-HD200. Wonderful HDV camera, absolutely more than I could ask for quality wise. I still love my XL2, though. This is the first time a client's requested HD footage.

Last weekend for a local cable company I shot an induction ceremony to the woman's basketball hall of fame on really, really ancient DVCAM cameras, switched live. I like broadcast quality cameras, but boy do I hate the bulk sometimes.

Coming up I've got some low-paying gig for the local convention center, pulling cable and setting up big screens. Should be a hoot.

In the immediate future I'm going to try and get going my next documentary and start shooting a friend's new YouTube series. Sadly both of those are free endeavors.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

FCP editor, After Effects animator.

We were required to learn Avid for my program, but I haven't touched (nor will, hopefully) since.

The XH-A1 is a beautiful camera. Say what you will about the ease of solid state recording, there's nothing more comforting than a physical backup on with a little size to it.

My dream camera would be something made by Canon that does all the bells and whistles, records to tape, and employs the 5DMK2 sensor and EOS lenses. It would also be lovely if it were the general size and price of an XH-A1

I'd also like a pony.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

I'm all about that 5DMk2, just waiting for some more features to be resolved. 24P (and 25 for our PAL friends) and the ability to record to an external harddrive or laptop would about seal the deal.

Rolling shutter solution would be nice too.

Come to think of it, has ANY camera company made progress on getting around that?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

\Admittedly, it's far from a pro camera, you can't really manually change settings or anything while shooting, it's very small so it's not steady at all, etc etc, but I think it's got a certain look to it that's quite cool.

Have you tried it with the most recent firmware that allows for manual exposure control while shooting?

That paired with the firmware hack that Tramm guy came up with seems like a lot of exciting things are coming up.

http://gizmodo.com/5299924/magic-lantern-firmware-unlocks-the-canon-5d-mark-iis-av-potential

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

I can probably do the Canon XL2, most Final Cut Pro questions, and lots of basic-to-intermediate After Effects CS3 questions.

Do we want to do the demoreel/portfolio page exchange thing?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

A guy named Slim Pickens talking about jumping from an airplane is oddly appropriate. I hope you'll go up (and down) with a cowboy hat.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Stick figures, mostly.

No, seriously, I 'stick out the scenes then pass them off to either a family member whose much more of an illustrator than I am, or a friend whose an artist and have them make them become understandable.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

More free resource sharing:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/finalcutstudio/lucaspluginsbundle.html

Free plugins for you FCP editors. I've used them on a couple things and I've not been too disappointed, although I've yet to match the quality of my stuff to what they show the plugin can do in their example reels.

Let's see, also in the news Canon has come out with a bunch of new P&S cameras. Rumors abound of a new 7D, so maybe that's another model with video on-board.

Anyone else waiting for the Canon second coming of Jesus that will be a prosumer model with fullframe technology using the EOS lens system, but still have the features of the XL line?

Sometimes I think Jesus coming back could be more likely.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Well if there are I've never heard of them. I suppose that's really more of an editor question, though.

Anywho.. just to keep the ball rolling it's a new month, what's everyone working on? Commercials, shorts, sports, features?... Porn?

Freelancing trudges on for me, this last month was especially famine, but this next one is starting pretty feast. I've landed another year of football with the local cable provider, so every Friday night I get to go dodge teenagers.

Been trying to grow my freelance business any way I can, I've got two new clients but the real news I've been excited over was my brand new business cards coming in. I got them from Moo.com and they offer this feature where each card is different. So one side of the cards has regular name, company logo, and contact information while the other side has a different picture on every card. I gathered a bunch of my photography and some video stills and did an order of 50. It's like a little pack of videography trading cards, and my client yesterday loved it.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Learn some of the basics of design and typography. It'll make you a much stronger editor if the title cards you come up with on the fly don't look like something out of a WYSIWYG.

I struggle with design type stuff in After Effects every day. It's especially bad when a client is really partial to their own font.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

I really liked Filmy Filmmakers, and wished it was a bit more popular.

Same with this thread, but even big sites like dvinfo, and dxvuser have their slow weeks.

Just to keep it all rolling, and I know I keep asking this, but what's everyone working on?

I'm knee-deep in doctor videos for a local practice, nothing too challenging, just a lot of the same stuff.

A week or two ago I worked a PSA for a production company who wouldnt tell us what it was about until about ten minutes before the talent arrived, it was Dolly Parton. A class act all the way.

Aside from all that, Friday football continues. Last two weeks I've been doing field-cam. No clobbering yet, I'll let you know when it happens, (it probably will).

And finally the big news today is I've been offered a full-time position at my old college as their system-wide videographer. Steady money, yay!

Tubby pictures:



The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Friday football update:

No clobbering, but it was crazy rainy yesterday and I did get a pretty alarming shock off the wrapped BNC/headset/XLR cable coming from the broadcast trailer to me on the field.

Have any of you used wireless video transmitters out in (or in my case on) the field before?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

By all means, buy her a camera if you can. The more she shoots the better she'll get, and quicker.

Part of the reason I feel as strong with the camera as I am (even though I'm probably not) is because I took out some loans early on and bought my XL2 so I wouldn't have to rely on the school's cameras.

Saying that, though, does her school offer cameras that the students can check out? Ours had a strict two-day "some" questions asked policy. We could get it for 48 hours with only one sentence on a piece of paper describing what we're going to be doing with it.

God bless you, little school Z1U. You and those weddings on the side helped put me through school.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Great to come home from being away and see so many posts in this thread.

I was out in Hollywood for the first time ever, as a movie I helped make made it to Shriekfest. We won best screenplay and best film in the under 18 category.

LA is just about as dreadful as everyone says it is.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

I'm an XL2 user.

After downloading the stock "Crush the blacks, up the contrast and saturation," "bleach bypass," and "dramatic black and white" presets, I went and played around a lot with those three to see how they were setup in the camera.

At this point I change the presets kind of on the fly when I'm out in the field.

There's a preset manager, and library of pre-made stuff at this thread on DVINFO.net.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Well of course, you can certainly do anything these days with computers, but the closer you can get the footage out of the camera to be what you want, the quicker your post will go. Also, the best quality you can achieve off the bat will make the changes you do make later look all the better.

Afterall, plenty of people still shoot still and motion picture photography with specialized gels, lights, filters, and film stock.

I was shooting in a basement that was dressed to look like a skeezy bar, and I could certainly do it in AE, but the director and I had previously discussed that we wanted there to be a decidedly green tint to everything. The preset manager on the camera gave me that look almost immediately.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

So while we're on the subject of color before compression, have any of you had good or bad experience with Vortex Media Warm Cards?

I shoot Sony at work and it tends to come off a little blue. However, I'm not sure they are worth spending the seventy five dollars for the video set on. If worse comes to worse I typically will stick a piece of CTB over the lens and white balance through it to get something a little warmer. I had to shoot an interview outside on just the grayest, rainy, cold October day imaginable last week, and only by doing the aforementioned trick did I get anything that I considered interesting.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Not that I've been able to find. You can certainly tint the picture with the presets like I mentioned before, but it takes some time spent in the menus.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

So while I was acting as a human weight for a light stand supporting a HMI twenty feet up in the air while about sixty feet away a helicopter took off and landed over and over again, I realized I haven't checked up on this thread recently.

What've all you been up to?

The Affair fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Dec 7, 2009

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Nah, famine season is starting. I've now shot all the holiday parades I've had lined up, and nothing new freelance wise till the new year.

Which sucks.

How do the rest of you freelance people survive during this 'joyous' season?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Looks great, Andraste, you guys did very well.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

An interesting article came across Reddit a few days ago concerning the "film look" and how it relates to depth of field. It's here.

I'm not sure I agree with most of it, particularly rack and shallow focus being 'lazy,' but I'd like to hear some of yous guys' thoughts.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Any of yous guys been using third party plugins for slow-motion? I've gotten okay results out of Timewarp in AE, but I wonder if any of you have had good experiences with Twixtor.

I know The Foundry makes a plugin called FurnaceCore for FCP that looks like it's got a lot of features for time-remapping, and other things, but it's damned expensive, just like everything else.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Quick and dirty because I'm on vacation still and bored. Stupid, Stupid Photographers.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Yeah, that was one wedding. And honestly he was pretty nice, but just kept jumping in the way. That's only ten of about fifteen or sixteen crosses across two cameras during the day.

And yes, wedding videographers are just as bad, probably a little worse because our cameras are usually more limited as far as what we're able to get.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Sometimes I think stuff like that is just a photographer (and videographers do this too) get into that zone and shut themselves off to whatever else is going on. Wedding photogs do this a lot more than say, the sports photographers who are usually more than happy and able to keep out of the way.

Probably because they know that high school football players just aim for the camera guys anyway.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

So any of yous guys ever do the 'produce a show for public access' thing?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Walnut Crunch posted:

Lots and lots of body odour on a public access crew.

Haha

I got approached by a pal about doing the production leg work for running a feature/news package show about local happenings, but I dunno.

All body odor issues aside it seems a lot of work for something that we wouldn't legally own, according to the station's rules.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Yeah, and I've really done all that stuff too, so it's not a padding out the resume thing (at least for me.) I think he wants the experience plus the "I run a TV show" bragging rights, but I dunno, sounds like a headache.

I guess I should convince him that they do have this thing called the internet, now, and it'd probably be seen by a lot more people than Knoxville Community Television (home of the angry wrestling show) could ever deliver.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

I shoot regular Sony MiniDVs on a Z1U and I've never had a single problem. Just shoot with one type of tape, try not to vary as (supposedly) each tape manufacturer uses slightly different construction processes and materials and eventually all the different lubricants inside of the tapes can gum up your heads.

I only use the Sony tapes at work, and the Maxwell tapes at home on my personal camera.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

So is it bad to lust after 16mm film cameras on eBay? I've got my really good SD, and an access to the work HD camera already, but of all the toys I've gotten to play with I've still never shot on film.

Do any of you own a cheap-o Bolex or Filmo for fun stuff?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

I think that beer commercial looks great..

And besides, if the client is happy and the bill is paid, who cares?

"I can't accept your money for this spot, the moire effect at 00:00:10;21 is just personally and professionally embarrassing."

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

My steady paycheck would take issue with your derision of the term videographer.

I understand that you're passionate about your field but aren't we being a bit overly critical?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Have any of you ever worked with anyone who was solely a Colorist/Footage Grader/Digital Intermediary? What were your experiences with them like?

I'm finally getting around to learning Apple Color through the Lynda tutorials, and so far it's been really fascinating.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Just gotta brag, I went to an estate sale this morning and got five prime C-Mount lenses, running from 17mm up to 150mm for my Bolex H16 for ten dollars!

They're dirty as hell since they've been kept in a barn for the last twenty years, but I bet I can get them somewhat useable.

They had a Bolex H8 8mm for twenty dollars and a Bell and Howell tank style 8mm too but both were nearly rusted shut.

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

My first reel of Kodak Vision 3 16mm film came in today! Going to have all kinds of fun (hopefully) this weekend. I need to practice loading the thing a few more times, but I think I'm ready to finally try this.

Any of you grizzled film shooters have any first-hand advice?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

Tiresias posted:

What camera are you going to use?

It's a non-reflex Bolex H16 and I'm going to be shooting Kodak Vision 3.

Concerning loading, I had read that is was okay to load without a darkroom or tent, just as long as it wasn't outdoors in extreme directional light. Something like a darkened room at night would work with only a few frames fogged?

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

bassguitarhero posted:


Point taken, ordered a big bag from Amazon. It's been overdue anyway, thanks!

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The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

What's everyone been working on lately?

The semester is about half way done at my full time, so we've been shooting more and more degree program videos for our new website relaunch next semester.

On the freelance front I've got my speakers convention I get to live switch in two weeks (kill me).

Also got a meeting scheduled with a subject I may be shooting a short documentary about, this Friday. He's an 88 year old photographer that started out way, way back in the day still using flash powder, and today he still hangs out of airplanes doing aerial digital photography. Should be fun.

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