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Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


alnilam posted:

Currently reading Earthsea for the first time and it's very enjoyable, and checks all those points off yeah

Second, or thirded

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Hugh Mann
Mar 4, 2025
Thanks, I just read chapter 1. Not bad!

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Hugh Mann posted:

Any fantasy novels along these lines:
  • Setting like Baltics / Baldur's Gate / Azores
  • Nigh pacifistic
  • Holds up well to modern sensibilities on sensitive topics, etc.
  • Author didn't turn out to be criminally insane, lol

The Goblin Emperor would check these boxes

And yeah earthsea is great

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


alnilam posted:

Currently reading Earthsea for the first time and it's very enjoyable, and checks all those points off yeah

oooh yeah, I got these, will be my next big series read (literally, that book is loving heavy!)

BigRed0427
Mar 22, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me Fredo.
Know what I wanna read? True Detective, but it's set in a fantasy world.

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

BigRed0427 posted:

Know what I wanna read? True Detective, but it's set in a fantasy world.

Okay this isn't what you asked for, but there is a sci-fi detective book called the Gone World by Tom Switterlich and it definitely evokes True Detective as well as Twin Peaks.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

BigRed0427 posted:

Know what I wanna read? True Detective, but it's set in a fantasy world.

can I compromise and give you Poirot in medieval europe?

BigRed0427
Mar 22, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me Fredo.

ulvir posted:

can I compromise and give you Poirot in medieval europe?

Sure!

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005


the name of the rose by Umberto Eco

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
/\/\ Ooo good rec

BigRed0427 posted:

Know what I wanna read? True Detective, but it's set in a fantasy world.

That's pretty much exactly what Kraken by Mieville is, right?

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


There is also Hummingbird Salamander by Vandermeer

modern design slut
Jan 12, 2003

(previously actionjackson)
I just started getting into reading again. I like sci-fi. I read the mars triology by kim stanley robinson, and now reading aurora by him as well (going to just try to read everything interesting from one author, then go to the next). I definitely am into the whole "escape earth because it sucks and try to settle/terraform/etc. elsewhere" thing. what else would you recommend in this style?

another author i wanted to check out was ursula le guin, i know she doesn't do as much spacy stuff (i think) but i've heard she's fantastic.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

modern design slut posted:

and now reading aurora by him as well (going to just try to read everything interesting from one author, then go to the next). I definitely am into the whole "escape earth because it sucks and try to settle/terraform/etc. elsewhere" thing.

lol


edit:
more seriously Gypsy by Carter Scholtz and Aniara by Harry Martinson

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tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

modern design slut posted:

I just started getting into reading again. I like sci-fi. I read the mars triology by kim stanley robinson, and now reading aurora by him as well (going to just try to read everything interesting from one author, then go to the next). I definitely am into the whole "escape earth because it sucks and try to settle/terraform/etc. elsewhere" thing. what else would you recommend in this style?

another author i wanted to check out was ursula le guin, i know she doesn't do as much spacy stuff (i think) but i've heard she's fantastic.

Children of Time is really good. The whole series is good!

modern design slut
Jan 12, 2003

(previously actionjackson)
thank you

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

I love a bunch of this type of book. Off the top of my head: Semiosis, The Stars Are Legion, Heart of the Comet, Rendezvous With Rama, Pushing Ice, Diaspora. Hard sci fi roughly about leaving the old earth and encountering new weird poo poo is so loving good.

modern design slut
Jan 12, 2003

(previously actionjackson)
i've heard the mars trilogy called hard sci-fi but i don't think the way they colonized, terrafromed, made oceans, etc. so easily was very realistic

Chuf
Jun 28, 2011

I had that weird dream again.
Thanks for all the recommendations on my previous post - added lots of books to my list!

I have another genre I'd love some help with if anyone has any recommendations: Sword and Sorcery. It's a genre I have always been interested in, but have never been able to find a good avenue into. I have previously tried some of the Conan, Thongor and Elric stories, but found them to either be too simple or strangely impenetrable. I'd not be opposed to trying them again, but perhaps I need to pick different stories to try? But I'm not even necessarily looking for the classics of the genre; I'm happy to try classics or more modern ones too.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



The Witcher books are good and definitely in that vein. The first one is all short stories so a good way to test the waters

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Chuf posted:

Thanks for all the recommendations on my previous post - added lots of books to my list!

I have another genre I'd love some help with if anyone has any recommendations: Sword and Sorcery. It's a genre I have always been interested in, but have never been able to find a good avenue into. I have previously tried some of the Conan, Thongor and Elric stories, but found them to either be too simple or strangely impenetrable. I'd not be opposed to trying them again, but perhaps I need to pick different stories to try? But I'm not even necessarily looking for the classics of the genre; I'm happy to try classics or more modern ones too.

Gareth Hanrahan is good (also does a good fantasy city)

Karl Edward Wagner's Kane

Michael Shea's Nifft is very horny for monster ladies

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Chuf posted:

Thanks for all the recommendations on my previous post - added lots of books to my list!

I have another genre I'd love some help with if anyone has any recommendations: Sword and Sorcery. It's a genre I have always been interested in, but have never been able to find a good avenue into. I have previously tried some of the Conan, Thongor and Elric stories, but found them to either be too simple or strangely impenetrable. I'd not be opposed to trying them again, but perhaps I need to pick different stories to try? But I'm not even necessarily looking for the classics of the genre; I'm happy to try classics or more modern ones too.

That Soldier of the Mist book by Gene Wolfe is great. Whole trilogy is excellent. Kind of a sword and sorcery memento in the classical Mediterranean

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

fez_machine posted:

Karl Edward Wagner's Kane

I would have recommended Kane too.

Also, perhaps Jack Vance's Dying Earth books (especially The Eyes of the Overworld and Cugel's Saga), or Charles Saunders's Imaro books. There's also Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser (Swords Against Deviltry et al), although the series declines in quality as you go on.

There's also more to Moorcock than just Elric -- you might want to investigate the Hawkmoon books (The Jewel in the Skull et al) or the Corum series (The Knight of the Swords et al).

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022
Hello, Book Recommendations thread! or should I say................. "salutations"????? j/k, no more in-character poo poo.

Ok, so here's what I want. I'm looking for a vocabulary book. There's a lot of different kinds, as I recall. Dictionaries, for study, there's Word of the Day. What I really want is like, something that you found personally edifying and amusing (specifically without being too jokey or 70's cornball like something that would throw "disestablishmententarianism" I do not like those) like maybe a person sat down and compiled a list of vocab words that are a bit more college level or grad school that they liked and here's why they subjectively and biasedly liked it and here is their book. You know, vibes. "Cellar door." I don't know if such a thing has been published but I've often tried to do this myself, but I forget to keep working on the project after a week. Or maybe just anything you really liked that isn't merely opening up a Dictionary or a KJV Bible or something like that. I like words but I'm just some dipshit with a GED but also you're reading this and I wrote it without fancy autocomplete so there u go. :cheers:

wizard2 fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Nov 3, 2025

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

wizard2 posted:

Hello, Book Recommendations thread! or should I say................. "salutations"????? j/k, no more in-character poo poo.

Ok, so here's what I want. I'm looking for a vocabulary book. There's a lot of different kinds, as I recall. Dictionaries, for study, there's Word of the Day. What I really want is like, something that you found personally edifying and amusing (specifically without being too jokey or 70's cornball like something that would throw "disestablishmententarianism" I do not like those) like maybe a person sat down and compiled a list of vocab words that are a bit more college level or grad school that they liked and here's why they subjectively and biasedly liked it and here is their book. You know, vibes. "Cellar door." I don't know if such a thing has been published but I've often tried to do this myself, but I forget to keep working on the project after a week. Or maybe just anything you really liked that isn't merely opening up a Dictionary or a KJV Bible or something like that. I like words but I'm just some dipshit with a GED but also you're reading this and I wrote it without fancy autocomplete so there u go. :cheers:

I recommend someone who really overwrites like Cormac McCarthy or maybe China Mieville’s Perdido Street Station. Then just look up the words you don’t know in a dictionary.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

wizard2 posted:

Hello, Book Recommendations thread! or should I say................. "salutations"????? j/k, no more in-character poo poo.

Ok, so here's what I want. I'm looking for a vocabulary book. There's a lot of different kinds, as I recall. Dictionaries, for study, there's Word of the Day. What I really want is like, something that you found personally edifying and amusing (specifically without being too jokey or 70's cornball like something that would throw "disestablishmententarianism" I do not like those) like maybe a person sat down and compiled a list of vocab words that are a bit more college level or grad school that they liked and here's why they subjectively and biasedly liked it and here is their book. You know, vibes. "Cellar door." I don't know if such a thing has been published but I've often tried to do this myself, but I forget to keep working on the project after a week. Or maybe just anything you really liked that isn't merely opening up a Dictionary or a KJV Bible or something like that. I like words but I'm just some dipshit with a GED but also you're reading this and I wrote it without fancy autocomplete so there u go. :cheers:

Moby Dick is the holy grail of this for me.

A Confederacy of Dunces as well.

SilkyP
Jul 21, 2004

The Boo-Box

wizard2 posted:

Hello, Book Recommendations thread! or should I say................. "salutations"????? j/k, no more in-character poo poo.

Ok, so here's what I want. I'm looking for a vocabulary book. There's a lot of different kinds, as I recall. Dictionaries, for study, there's Word of the Day. What I really want is like, something that you found personally edifying and amusing (specifically without being too jokey or 70's cornball like something that would throw "disestablishmententarianism" I do not like those) like maybe a person sat down and compiled a list of vocab words that are a bit more college level or grad school that they liked and here's why they subjectively and biasedly liked it and here is their book. You know, vibes. "Cellar door." I don't know if such a thing has been published but I've often tried to do this myself, but I forget to keep working on the project after a week. Or maybe just anything you really liked that isn't merely opening up a Dictionary or a KJV Bible or something like that. I like words but I'm just some dipshit with a GED but also you're reading this and I wrote it without fancy autocomplete so there u go. :cheers:

If you have nothing against ghoul related rape then Throne of Bones. Lot of nice 25 cent words in that one

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

Just listen to The Decemberists imo

But yeah Moby Dick is great for that. So is Shakespeare although that's a little more ye olden times. But Shakespeare is extremely good imo.

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

Kvlt! posted:

A Confederacy of Dunces as well.

Lol yeah but the character is an idiot, so the verbosity in that book is satirical

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

caspergers posted:

Lol yeah but the character is an idiot, so the verbosity in that book is satirical

So? Op asked for something edifying and amusing, and it certainly qualifies. It's a satire, but written by a very smart author so I dont think its "jokey". The type of words ops looking for are still in it.

There's also a lot of OTHER characters in the book besides Ignatius.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

wizard2 posted:

Hello, Book Recommendations thread! or should I say................. "salutations"????? j/k, no more in-character poo poo.

Ok, so here's what I want. I'm looking for a vocabulary book. There's a lot of different kinds, as I recall. Dictionaries, for study, there's Word of the Day. What I really want is like, something that you found personally edifying and amusing (specifically without being too jokey or 70's cornball like something that would throw "disestablishmententarianism" I do not like those) like maybe a person sat down and compiled a list of vocab words that are a bit more college level or grad school that they liked and here's why they subjectively and biasedly liked it and here is their book. You know, vibes. "Cellar door." I don't know if such a thing has been published but I've often tried to do this myself, but I forget to keep working on the project after a week. Or maybe just anything you really liked that isn't merely opening up a Dictionary or a KJV Bible or something like that. I like words but I'm just some dipshit with a GED but also you're reading this and I wrote it without fancy autocomplete so there u go. :cheers:

I collect writing books in the hopes that I'll one day knuckle down and improve my ability to write. So I have a few recommendations of books that directly address vocab building rather than the novels others have suggested (I'd add Pynchon to those lists, a lot of words you won't find even in dictionaries).

The classic of vocabulary learning is Word Power Made Easy by Norman Lewis, but I really like Graham King's work from the United Kingdom. It's slightly dated but has a generally fun and inviting tone. The Collins Complete Writing Guide is the edition I have.

There's also a couple of fun, unpretentious usage guides that will also broaden your vocabulary by having big lists of words accompanied by commentary.

Dreyer's English by Benjamin Dreyer (ex chief copy editor at Random House). He also has a blog https://benjamindreyer.substack.com/. Very unpretentious, friendly, and gay.

He recommends Theodore Bernstein's Miss Thistlebottom's Hobgoblins, "one of the charmingest, smartest, most readable books on the subject of language I've ever read". I really enjoyed it as well.

There are also word origin miscellanea books, which more closely resemble the "cellar door" books you're asking for.

I have on my desk Humble Pine and Cold Turkey: English Expressions and Their Origins by Caroline Taggart.

I haven't read the Dictionary of Word Origins: The Histories of More Than 8,000 English-Language Words by John Ayto but it looks decent

Edit: you might like the grammarphobia blog which is mainly about eytmology presented in the style of an advice column: https://grammarphobia.com/blog

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caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

wizard2 posted:

Hello, Book Recommendations thread! or should I say................. "salutations"????? j/k, no more in-character poo poo.

Ok, so here's what I want. I'm looking for a vocabulary book. There's a lot of different kinds, as I recall. Dictionaries, for study, there's Word of the Day. What I really want is like, something that you found personally edifying and amusing (specifically without being too jokey or 70's cornball like something that would throw "disestablishmententarianism" I do not like those) like maybe a person sat down and compiled a list of vocab words that are a bit more college level or grad school that they liked and here's why they subjectively and biasedly liked it and here is their book. You know, vibes. "Cellar door." I don't know if such a thing has been published but I've often tried to do this myself, but I forget to keep working on the project after a week. Or maybe just anything you really liked that isn't merely opening up a Dictionary or a KJV Bible or something like that. I like words but I'm just some dipshit with a GED but also you're reading this and I wrote it without fancy autocomplete so there u go. :cheers:

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021


Just saying so the satire is kept in mind, it seemed to me they wanted something with a more sincere use of words. Not a contradiction lol

E: Also Ignatius is the only character who talks that way; the book's perspective is that big words are shallow and not an actual indicator of intelligence.

caspergers fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 3, 2025

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!


FOR SALE.
BIG WORDS.
TEN DOLLARS.

yes i know it wasnt actually him

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

wizard2 posted:

Hello, Book Recommendations thread! or should I say................. "salutations"????? j/k, no more in-character poo poo.

Ok, so here's what I want. I'm looking for a vocabulary book. There's a lot of different kinds, as I recall. Dictionaries, for study, there's Word of the Day. What I really want is like, something that you found personally edifying and amusing (specifically without being too jokey or 70's cornball like something that would throw "disestablishmententarianism" I do not like those) like maybe a person sat down and compiled a list of vocab words that are a bit more college level or grad school that they liked and here's why they subjectively and biasedly liked it and here is their book. You know, vibes. "Cellar door." I don't know if such a thing has been published but I've often tried to do this myself, but I forget to keep working on the project after a week. Or maybe just anything you really liked that isn't merely opening up a Dictionary or a KJV Bible or something like that. I like words but I'm just some dipshit with a GED but also you're reading this and I wrote it without fancy autocomplete so there u go. :cheers:
It might be a bit too jokey but I always enjoyed The Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce. It helps that was published in 1911 so it's probably jokes you haven't heard.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Nov 3, 2025

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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

anilEhilated posted:

It might be a bit too jokey but I always enjoyed The Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce. It helps that it's been published in 1911 so it's probably jokes you haven't heard.

Yeah, that's a fun read.

"DICE, n. Small polka-dotted cubes of ivory, constructed like a lawyer to lie on any side, but commonly on the wrong one."

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