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Vicious Panda
Sep 15, 2023

I’m looking for books that have a similar feel to Dungeon Crawler Carl, I really like the serious, semi dark storyline presented in a fun way. Harry Potter is another book that kind of shows what I’m looking for, although I prefer adult characters but that’s not a hard requirement. I’m having trouble finding books like this that have characters and a world that feels real.

I’ve tried Buymort which felt like it had potential, not much depth or growth of characters but I enjoyed it. Fred, The Vampire Accountant was like a fun snack but I didn’t really get into the characters, same with Necrotic Apocalypse.

I grew up reading high fantasy and I think I want that kind of depth with comic relief? Like Wheel of Time meets Enchanted Forest Chronicles. I tend towards fantasy but down to try sci-fi and long books in big series is a wonderful bonus.

I just started listening to Bobiverse because it’s been mentioned a few times in this thread and it sucked me right in, I’m not sure if it’s cast of characters will keep me interested but good so far.

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Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
How to survive at the end of the world, maybe. It's not as good as Carl, but the system managing the end of the world has similar humor to it

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





100th Run by Flossindune is pretty good. Its a fairly similar setup to DCC: godlike aliens have turned earth into a deadly, madcap gameshow, protagonist turns the system on its head, yadda yadda yadda.

The central premise is that the main character has beaten the game 99 times in the past and has voluntarily chosen to timeloop every time, all in preparation for a hyper-optimized final run to save the maximum number of people.

Its not quite up to the level of DCC, but its pretty good in its own right. The character work is quite good for the genre, and its not afraid to have fun with its dumb premise.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Vicious Panda posted:

I’m looking for books that have a similar feel to Dungeon Crawler Carl, I really like the serious, semi dark storyline presented in a fun way. Harry Potter is another book that kind of shows what I’m looking for, although I prefer adult characters but that’s not a hard requirement. I’m having trouble finding books like this that have characters and a world that feels real.

I’ve tried Buymort which felt like it had potential, not much depth or growth of characters but I enjoyed it. Fred, The Vampire Accountant was like a fun snack but I didn’t really get into the characters, same with Necrotic Apocalypse.

I grew up reading high fantasy and I think I want that kind of depth with comic relief? Like Wheel of Time meets Enchanted Forest Chronicles. I tend towards fantasy but down to try sci-fi and long books in big series is a wonderful bonus.

I just started listening to Bobiverse because it’s been mentioned a few times in this thread and it sucked me right in, I’m not sure if it’s cast of characters will keep me interested but good so far.

Bobiverse is great until the premise wears thin a few books in.

The Daily Grind is another that hasn't been mentioned but is kinda close, but nothing really touches DCC in terms of consistent writing quality, character depth despite absurdity, and humor + actual storytelling.

The Wandering Inn is good but very different.

Cradle is less humorous but about 85% as well written as DCC, it's also more a western take on an anime protagonist than DCC is.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
The Perfect Run is another series that is fun and enjoyable but not as good as DCC. But worth looking into.

Vicious Panda
Sep 15, 2023

Thanks a ton for the recs, going to be driving a lot and excited to check them out :peanut:

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Are Grisham books actually any good? In the mood for a court room drama style book

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
They're thrillers so don't try to dig too deep and just let yourself enjoy the story. They're far and away better than James Patterson, the other big famous author loved by the same demographic.

The key to enjoying a thriller is to let the fast paced plot distract you from coincidences, lucky assumptions, and other things you might notice in a more leisurely paced book.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
Could also try the Nathan Shepherd series by Michael Stagg, I enjoyed the one audiobook anyway. Probably less thriller-y

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Maybe the better question is are there any good courtroom drama , Law & Order style books? I feel like that's more what I'm looking for

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Opopanax posted:

Maybe the better question is are there any good courtroom drama , Law & Order style books? I feel like that's more what I'm looking for

The Firm and A Time to Kill will probably do you just fine, but here's a few others:


Scott Turow, David Baldacchi, Stacey Abrams

Also if you haven't read it in a while, To Kill a Mockingbird is solid.

Or if you're down bad, The Trial by Kafka.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Good call, embarrassingly enough I've never actually read Mockingbird. It didn't come up in school like it did for most people and then I just never got around to it, I've always meant to rectify that so this is probably a good chance. Thanks

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Opopanax posted:

Maybe the better question is are there any good courtroom drama , Law & Order style books? I feel like that's more what I'm looking for

Thats p much exactly what Grisham is

schwein11
Oct 13, 2009



Opopanax posted:

Maybe the better question is are there any good courtroom drama , Law & Order style books? I feel like that's more what I'm looking for

Not exactly what you’re asking for but Make No Law by Anthony Lewis is a great law book and pretty relevant today.

Chuf
Jun 28, 2011

I had that weird dream again.
Anyone got any recommendations for urban fantasy books that aren’t set on Earth or set in the modern day?

(Maybe that criteria takes them out of the genre - but I’m looking for noir/mystery style books set in magical fully secondary worlds with a less than modern technology level)

The best books that I’ve read so far that kind of fit this are the Locke Lamora books and the Discworld Watch books (both of which I enjoyed greatly)

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Chuf posted:

Anyone got any recommendations for urban fantasy books that aren’t set on Earth or set in the modern day?

(Maybe that criteria takes them out of the genre - but I’m looking for noir/mystery style books set in magical fully secondary worlds with a less than modern technology level)

The best books that I’ve read so far that kind of fit this are the Locke Lamora books and the Discworld Watch books (both of which I enjoyed greatly)

I've only read the first one, but the Chronicles of Elantra by Michelle Sagara have a main character who works for the police (The "Hawks") in a fantasy world with vampires, dragons, immortals, bird people and cat people. The first book is Cast in Shadow. I think she is up to around 20 of them.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
the imaginary corpse

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

The Vlad Taltos books are the first thing that comes to mind.

China Miéville's New Crobuzon too.

The Viriconium stories are centered around a city, but I'd be hesitant to call them urban fantasy -- they don't have much in the way of noir elements (except, maybe, In Viriconium).

Maybe the Thieves' World books?

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Chuf posted:

Anyone got any recommendations for urban fantasy books that aren’t set on Earth or set in the modern day?

(Maybe that criteria takes them out of the genre - but I’m looking for noir/mystery style books set in magical fully secondary worlds with a less than modern technology level)

The best books that I’ve read so far that kind of fit this are the Locke Lamora books and the Discworld Watch books (both of which I enjoyed greatly)

Adjacent to your request but you might like the Brother Cadfael books. Theyre historical fiction about a monk investigating murders but are basically "detective/noir/mystery" in a medieval setting, though no magic/fantasy.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Chuf posted:

Anyone got any recommendations for urban fantasy books that aren’t set on Earth or set in the modern day?

(Maybe that criteria takes them out of the genre - but I’m looking for noir/mystery style books set in magical fully secondary worlds with a less than modern technology level)

The best books that I’ve read so far that kind of fit this are the Locke Lamora books and the Discworld Watch books (both of which I enjoyed greatly)
Read the Craft Sequence by Max Gladstone.

Magnetic North
Dec 14, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms
I've got a sort of odd question. Are there any content guides to books in the way that they exist for movies? I'm moderately squeamish, so I try to avoid movies with fleshy gore, but blood squibs under shirts don't bother me. IMDB has a "Parents Guide" which I use if I'm not sure. I'm not as bad for books, but still sometimes can't manage it. There was one Sherlock Holmes story I just had to skip because it was unusually graphic about a murder.

I see that doesthedogdie.com has expanded into this and it includes books, but it has so many varied content warnings it feels hard to navigate, which is a good thing I suppose. It also seems to have much more spoilery descriptions than IMDB. Are there any others? I'm a little afraid that any content guidance I'd find would be some fundamentalist site.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Chuf posted:

Anyone got any recommendations for urban fantasy books that aren’t set on Earth or set in the modern day?

(Maybe that criteria takes them out of the genre - but I’m looking for noir/mystery style books set in magical fully secondary worlds with a less than modern technology level)

The best books that I’ve read so far that kind of fit this are the Locke Lamora books and the Discworld Watch books (both of which I enjoyed greatly)
Maybe The Tainted Cup? It's not noir but definitely a fantasy mystery novel, and a pretty good one at that if you aren't allergic to pastiches.

Picayune
Feb 26, 2007

cannot be unseen
Taco Defender

Chuf posted:

Anyone got any recommendations for urban fantasy books that aren’t set on Earth or set in the modern day?

(Maybe that criteria takes them out of the genre - but I’m looking for noir/mystery style books set in magical fully secondary worlds with a less than modern technology level)

The best books that I’ve read so far that kind of fit this are the Locke Lamora books and the Discworld Watch books (both of which I enjoyed greatly)

The Garrett P.I. books by Glen Cook are both hard-boiled private-eye detective novels and relatively dark fantasy. As far as I can tell it fits all your criteria. The world is entirely imaginary and fantasy-based with magic and all that stuff, and the level of technology is relatively low (since magic exists).

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Chuf posted:

Anyone got any recommendations for urban fantasy books that aren’t set on Earth or set in the modern day?

(Maybe that criteria takes them out of the genre - but I’m looking for noir/mystery style books set in magical fully secondary worlds with a less than modern technology level)

The best books that I’ve read so far that kind of fit this are the Locke Lamora books and the Discworld Watch books (both of which I enjoyed greatly)

I wonder if you’d like Soldier of the Mist and the other two in the trilogy. It’s Memento but a soldier bouncing around the classical Mediterranean, trying to recover his memory and figure out his life.

Oh and it’s probably not an appropriate rec because it takes place in Poland, and the protagonist has an interesting perspective but it’s not magical, but Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead by Olga Tocarczuk is such a good and atypical mystery book that I have to recommend it.

tuyop fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Sep 24, 2025

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Magnetic North posted:

I've got a sort of odd question. Are there any content guides to books in the way that they exist for movies? I'm moderately squeamish, so I try to avoid movies with fleshy gore, but blood squibs under shirts don't bother me. IMDB has a "Parents Guide" which I use if I'm not sure. I'm not as bad for books, but still sometimes can't manage it. There was one Sherlock Holmes story I just had to skip because it was unusually graphic about a murder.

I see that doesthedogdie.com has expanded into this and it includes books, but it has so many varied content warnings it feels hard to navigate, which is a good thing I suppose. It also seems to have much more spoilery descriptions than IMDB. Are there any others? I'm a little afraid that any content guidance I'd find would be some fundamentalist site.

You might try Common Sense Media?

Magnetic North
Dec 14, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

yaffle posted:

You might try Common Sense Media?

Thanks for the suggestion, I forgot about these guys. Looks like they gate their material to X view per month, and they have violence as a top level category without specifying blood, so it's sort of the reverse problem where it's quite broad but less spoilery.

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

Any non-fiction/pop history books about the history of mealtimes across the world and through history? What people ate and when depending on period, culture, and class? It seems like a big topic, I feel like there must be a decent book about it but I can't find one.

Magnetic North posted:

Thanks for the suggestion, I forgot about these guys. Looks like they gate their material to X view per month, and they have violence as a top level category without specifying blood, so it's sort of the reverse problem where it's quite broad but less spoilery.

:ssh: you can skirt the paywall with a private/incognito browser window

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

Magnetic North posted:

Thanks for the suggestion, I forgot about these guys. Looks like they gate their material to X view per month, and they have violence as a top level category without specifying blood, so it's sort of the reverse problem where it's quite broad but less spoilery.

I think Storygraph (goodreads alternative) has a lot of "Content Warning" stuff, but I honestly haven't looked at it.

You may want to check out a few books you've read and see if they are properly "labeled".

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


As I think Duterte and Bolsonaros time for being active menaces to humanity I ask my fellow goons what books on these buttholes would they recommend?
I wanna work my way through recent histories poo poo bags till, well you know...

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001
Anyone have any strong feeling or insights on the Goodreads alternatives Storygraph vs Fable?

I signed up for them both, and they both seem to have their pros and cons. Fable seems to have a much better app and UI, but their database (and possibly userbase?) seems not as big as Storygraph. There were a couple books I searched for that were not in Fable’s database that I found on Storygraph. Also, I’ve found Fable seems to recommend the same books over and over again with no regard as to them already being marked as “read”, while Storygraph does seem to take this into account.

Storygraph seems like the better option even though it’s a slightly worse UI and user experience, just wondering if anyone here uses either and has any thoughts. I’m not really interested in the social aspect of Fable, I’m just looking for something to track books I’ve read, books I want to read, and give me suggestions for similar books.

The one thing I don’t like about either of them is there doesn’t seem to be an option to mark a book as “not interested”. Some googling tells me there might be an option to do this on the Storygraph site but I don’t see it anywhere in the app.

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

I use Storygraph. Though, I rarely use its recommendation feature because I get enough of those through friends, this thread, and the "what did you finish" thread. I like it well enough, and it's not owned by Amazon. I haven't tried this, but I'm wondering if marking something you don't want to read as "did not finish" would get it out of your recommendations. Might mess up your reading stats a bit, though, since it's implied that you at least tried to read it.

Edit: I was looking around the Recommendations list in the app. If you go into Recommendations and then click "Browse" for a specific list, there should be a little "x" in the top right of each item in that list. That should remove it from your Recommendations.

Good-Natured Filth fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 2, 2025

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


There’s another one called LibraryThing that’s supposed to be run by a nonprofit or something?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Sandwolf posted:

There’s another one called LibraryThing that’s supposed to be run by a nonprofit or something?

I used to use it but it's barely supported and the app broke all the time. Switched to StoryGraph and it's a lot more useable

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

Recc me weird poo poo like City of Glass by Paul Auster. George Saunders maybe? Donald Barthelme possibly but he can be too dense for me sometimes. By weird I just mean peculiar and bordering sureal, but not in a doofy way like Pynchon

caspergers fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Oct 3, 2025

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

caspergers posted:

Recc me weird poo poo like City of Glass by Paul Auster. George Saunders maybe? Donald Barthelme possibly but he can be too dense for me sometimes. By weird I just mean peculiar and bordering sureal, but not in a doofy way like Pynchon

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ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

caspergers posted:

Recc me weird poo poo like City of Glass by Paul Auster. George Saunders maybe? Donald Barthelme possibly but he can be too dense for me sometimes. By weird I just mean peculiar and bordering sureal, but not in a doofy way like Pynchon

extremely weird: children of the dead by Elfride Jelinek, The obscene bird of night by Donoso,
pretty weird: Solenoid by Cǎrtǎrescu
slightly weird, but possibly dense: Praiseworthy by Alexis Wright
slightly weird, but not dense: Tomb of sand by Geetanjali Shree

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

caspergers posted:

Recc me weird poo poo like City of Glass by Paul Auster. George Saunders maybe? Donald Barthelme possibly but he can be too dense for me sometimes. By weird I just mean peculiar and bordering sureal, but not in a doofy way like Pynchon

I love weird poo poo

The Memory Police by Yoko Agawa: kind of the title. There’s an island and things disappear actively, with the titular police enforcing this.

Rakesfall by Vajra Chandrasekera: a reincarnation story about various things, like if the dead came back what would their legal status be in like 20th century India.

Snail on the Slope by the Strugatsky’s: a very disorienting story about a place that does weird things to your memory.

tuyop fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 3, 2025

Hugh Mann
Mar 4, 2025
Any fantasy novels along these lines:
  • Setting like Baltics / Baldur's Gate / Azores
  • Nigh pacifistic
  • Holds up well to modern sensibilities on sensitive topics, etc.
  • Author didn't turn out to be criminally insane, lol

Hugh Mann fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Oct 3, 2025

Sarern
Nov 4, 2008

:toot:
Won't you take me to
Bomertown?
Won't you take me to
BONERTOWN?

:toot:

Hugh Mann posted:

Any fantasy novels along these lines:
  • Setting like Baltics / Baldur's Gate / Azores
  • Nigh pacifistic
  • Holds up well to modern sensibilities on sensitive topics, etc.
  • Author didn't turn out to be criminally insane, lol

The Earthsea books are usually set among islands and meet your other criteria iirc.

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alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

Currently reading Earthsea for the first time and it's very enjoyable, and checks all those points off yeah

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